I've finally come to understand what these outsiders are talking about
when they say alt.slack is a big clique. We really are. I mean, I've
been posting here for almost four years now and Dyna, Nenslo, Modemac,
Dad, and a couple others were here before that. Many of us who are
"regulars" here started posting here within a year of my starting. We
don't think of ourselves as a clique because only a few of us don't
really like a few others and we feel free to disagree loudly and
publically. I think when some newbie comes along and pisses off widely
disparate characters at the same time, they draw shit from all
quarters and therefore assume that we're one big clique instead of
considering that they are just superlative assholes who are able to
bring Michael and Lucifer together for a mutual cursing session. We
who have survived here, we who have straddled the Scylla and Charybdis
or been dashed or and drowned and reborn from sheer stubborness
consider each other to be wholly individual...actually defiantly
individual. It's just outsiders that see us as a clique. We've learned
to tolerate each other's quirks and foibles. We know who's going to
tweak at which bait. Maya Maya Maya Maya Maya. We've developed buzz
words...you know it and I know it. It's not an exclusive clique god
knows, I mean, it includes Craig for chrissakes! It sure must look
tough to breach to an outsider though. I've actually forgotten how
much this group scared me when I first posted here...and that was back
when there were GOOD posters and interesting threads. Those were the
days of Andy Testa, Rev. Mowie Wow, when Stang actually posted on an
almost daily basis and interacted with us just like we were equals and
all.
I want a new poster that I can respect. Surely one of you lurkers has
the balls and personality to satisfy me.
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From: bmguth@mtco.nospam.com (Reverend AmphibiousAssault)
Tarla-
I usually enjoy your posts, but I'm really going to have to disagree with
you on this one.
First off, let me point out that I've been lurking here, on and off, for
something like three years. I think I made my first post last fall, and
never really started posting much until last week. Anyone who knows
anything about USENET always told me...lurk first. And, I believe it has
paid off, in my case. I may not always post something intelligent, but
I've never had my head torn off for it. (not that it would matter...I'd
just grow a new one.)
Because I lurked here so long, I got to know many of you, before you ever
knew that I existed. So, if and when I eventually get flamed by one of
the regulars, or sucked into some troll by one of the regulars, I'll
understand that that's just their personality, and I'll know better than
to take it personally.
Finally, having now met several of you in person, I can say that
alt.slack is FAR from being a clique. I was welcomed by everyone I met,
and treated as an equal, despite my relatively small stature in this
group. I hope that I was able to convey the same respect to all of you.
Yes, there are some names that show up in here all the time, and dealing
with those people can be a little intimidating, at first. But we're all
Yeti (except for those annoying Discordians. PRAKILLFILE!) and one of our
racial traits is thick skins. Anyone who can't take a few lumps doesn't
BELONG here. And that's not a statement of cliquishness, that's a
statement of fact...in the same way that anyone who can't stand the cold
shouldn't live in Canada.
Tarla, I don't know if I have near enough balls or personality to
entertain and/or impress you, and I really don't care. But I've never
thought this was a clique, and over time, I've learned that I was right
all along.
-RevAmph
--
Reverend AmphibiousAssault
Church of the Inevitable Revolution
"History Ends Right Now!"
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>I want a new poster that I can respect. Surely one of you lurkers has
>the balls and personality to satisfy me.
>
I dunno. Is killfiling you impressive?
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From: TheCharlie <charliec@cybernex.net>
TarlaStar wrote:
>
> I've finally come to understand what these outsiders are talking about
> when they say alt.slack is a big clique. We really are. I mean, I've
> been posting here for almost four years now and Dyna, Nenslo, Modemac,
> Dad, and a couple others were here before that. Many of us who are
> "regulars" here started posting here within a year of my starting. We
> don't think of ourselves as a clique because only a few of us don't
> really like a few others and we feel free to disagree loudly and
> publically.
If that's the definition of a clique, then I guess it must be.
But it doesn't feel lke a clique to me.
> I think when some newbie comes along and pisses off widely
> disparate characters at the same time, they draw shit from all
> quarters and therefore assume that we're one big clique instead of
> considering that they are just superlative assholes who are able to
> bring Michael and Lucifer together for a mutual cursing session.
That's not a clique.. that's life. Let's see any outsider
go into any real life group and do this and expect to be
welcomed with open arms.. it just won't happen, even if the
members can't even SPELL the word clique. (or crwod)
> We
> who have survived here, we who have straddled the Scylla and Charybdis
> or been dashed or and drowned and reborn from sheer stubborness
> consider each other to be wholly individual...actually defiantly
> individual. It's just outsiders that see us as a clique. We've learned
> to tolerate each other's quirks and foibles.
Hmm.. much like our own lives..
> We know who's going to
> tweak at which bait. Maya Maya Maya Maya Maya. We've developed buzz
> words...you know it and I know it. It's not an exclusive clique god
> knows, I mean, it includes Craig for chrissakes! It sure must look
> tough to breach to an outsider though.
Hmmm.. much like our own lives..
> I've actually forgotten how
> much this group scared me when I first posted here...and that was back
> when there were GOOD posters and interesting threads. Those were the
> days of Andy Testa, Rev. Mowie Wow, when Stang actually posted on an
> almost daily basis and interacted with us just like we were equals and
> all.
I seem to have followed you into a few groups. But I was flamed
pretty well in each one. I didn't fight back, I just let people
get used to my style and either reject it or accept it as they
saw fit. (no skin off of my nose, but I'd rather they accepted it)
I didn't join any 'clique' and I refuse to do so. I HAVE joined
some groups of like minded individuals, but my rate of acceptance
or rejectance is no different there than in the newsgroups I've
joined.
If I've learned anything in Usenet (when it comes to cliques)
it is that usually the people claiming there is a clique are
the people who are somehow unable to fit into a group that
they choose to associate with. (ie.. the group chooses not
to associate with THEM, for whatever reason)
However, I can't imagine that this could possibly
apply to TarlaStar.. I've known you for years and never
found you to be the type of person who would become
part of a 'clique' or even tolerate the notion. So
this post surprises me.
> I want a new poster that I can respect. Surely one of you lurkers has
> the balls and personality to satisfy me.
.. um.. I have the balls (last time I checked) and the personality
could certainly use a tweak.. but I have some great respect for the
bearded guy, so any effort to satisfy you must end in my imagination.
But, back to your REAL point.. yes. We DO need lurkers to come
forward and spread their thoughts.. and it doesn't do them any
good that we are so harsh with each other that they are afraid
to come forth.
SPEAK YOUR MIND, PEOPLE!!!!!
This is probably one of the last free places to do so..
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From: gggor@io.com (G. G. Gordon)
On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:19:00 GMT, !!!bmyers@ionet.net (TarlaStar)
wrote:
>Unit4@Sputum.Com (Doktor DynaSoar) wrote:
>
>>Clique is the word for the bunch of people that someone would rather apply the
>>word "us" to.
>
>>In alt.slack TarlaStar wrote:
>>
>>} I want a new poster that I can respect. Surely one of you lurkers has
>>} the balls and personality to satisfy me.
>
>>To which I'd like to add and expand:
>
>>Sometimes new posters DO fit in from the get-go. Pee Kitty and Annnnnna come
>>to mind. They do so not by trying to fit in (or fit in by not fitting in), by
>>writing the 'right' things, but by being themselves.
>
>As always, you are right on the money.
>
What an absolutely marvelous thread and a pleasure to read, thanks
for kicking this off Tarla---enjoyed the b'guy's beer, wish you had
been there. I must confess that after mostly lurking on this newsgroup
I usually only post occasionally...but I do sense a newer breadth in
the information exchange and crossover between the funnin' and flamin'
and I don't know if that's because now I have so many new faces and
persona to put with the names on their postings or if we are turning
into at least an alt.slack than can stay on topic if not the kinder
and gentler subgenius nation. After twenty years association with
Stang, Dobbs and a large number of church members, I have come to only
one conclusion...this church is a joke...if you get it, you kill Bob
and become enlightened, a true Subgenius, if the joke just makes you
laugh, then you'll be doomed to be a Bobbie until you do get it...if
ever, and if you don't get it and you don't laugh, then you're a
Normal.
That's right the church, like your life is a joke, and if you
can't take a joke....
As someone who has been accurately categorized as Nenslaic
(old, grumpy and cynical and mean] I found the X-day fiasco to be a
great and momentous event in the history of the church, because it
marks the turning point in the Church's progress. It was a bringing
together of a large number of solitary people many of who do not
socialize or interact well with "normal" society. I saw people of
every stripe and spot exhibiting all sorts of dementia and bizarre
behaviour and all obviously enjoying themselves and everyone else a
great deal...but more than that I saw, felt, lived, breathed and
wallowed in SLACK!
X-day reminded me what the church was all about, why it was
started, a thing we give lip service to and seldom achieve
nowadays...SLACK. And when I found myself standing out there with
Dobbs prophecy totally unfulfilled, no X-ists, no end of the world, in
fact nothing happening at all except what we were making happen, as I
said before, never have I been prouder of my religion or more
convinced of its superiority to all other belief structures. That
choice I made twenty years ago was the right choice and there is only
one way...through Slack!!!!
praiBob
ggg
Grab life by the lapels and scream in its face if you want to get anywhere!
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