A Sexual Question

From: "Rev. Edward Strange" <strange@enter.net>

I was just wondering. If a pre-op transexual who likes to be called
"she" and conciders themselvs a lesbian meets another pre-op transexual
who likes to be called "she" and conciders themselvs a lesbian, could
they in fact have lesbian sex? And if they did, how would this be
different from any other two queers who wear womens panties and suck
each others cocks?

Like I said, just wondering.

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From: p-lil@ZubJenius.com (Popess Lilith von Fraumench)

On the eve of Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:51:36 -0400, in the Temple of
<35BD2098.2B2E@enter.net>, strange@enter.net bellowed forth across the
wasteland:
>
>I was just wondering. If a pre-op transexual who likes to be called
>"she" and conciders themselvs a lesbian meets another pre-op transexual
>who likes to be called "she" and conciders themselvs a lesbian, could
>they in fact have lesbian sex?

Yes.

>And if they did, how would this be
>different from any other two queers who wear womens panties and suck
>each others cocks?

For one thing, you wouldn't have to worry about them staring at your ass.

P.Lil

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From: smithee_alan@my-dejanews.com

In article <35BD2098.2B2E@enter.net>,
"Rev. Edward Strange" <strange@enter.net> wrote:
>
> Like I said, just wondering.

Wow, the things you wonder. :)

But, semi-seriously, I think it's word fucking more than anything else. Two
people who insist on greying the definition of what a "woman" is. They end up
blurring the lines of what 'lesbians' and 'lesbian sex' are. As a straight guy
who rents a lot of tapes, I'm personaly offended. :)

Basicly it all comes down to what you and they want to call it.

In the mean time, two people are getting their rocks off in the back, and I'm
sitting here typing on my computer. Shit!

Alan Smithee

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From: "R. Lightner" <blight@u.washington.edu>

On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Rev. Edward Strange wrote:

> I was just wondering. If a pre-op transexual who likes to be called
> "she" and conciders themselvs a lesbian meets another pre-op transexual
> who likes to be called "she" and conciders themselvs a lesbian, could
> they in fact have lesbian sex? And if they did, how would this be
> different from any other two queers who wear womens panties and suck
> each others cocks?

Why do you worry so? You'd think you OWNED the language...

Do you think yourself bold and free-thinking for asking these "tough"
questions? You'd better be careful when the status quo runs out.

- Rev. Boblight

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From: temujin9@mci2000.com (Nathaniel Eliot)

Pre-op trannies don't usually have sex, IME; the body-image
thing is too weird for them.

temujin9
just a straight answer to a queer question

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From: "Rev. Edward Strange" <strange@enter.net>

nikittats@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > Pre-op trannies don't usually have sex, IME; the body-image
> > thing is too weird for them.
> >
> > temujin9
> > just a straight answer to a queer question
>
> Uh, if you have a very narrow definition of "sex" that strictly just means
> "intercourse," you might be right. Otherwise, where did you get your ideas
> about transsexuals, some ancient textbook?
>

Hey, I think P-Lil wrote that book.

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From: "Rev. Edward Strange" <strange@enter.net>

nikittats@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> In article <35BD2098.2B2E@enter.net>,
> "Rev. Edward Strange" <strange@enter.net> wrote:

> >
> > Like I said, just wondering.
>
> Not that it's any of your fucking business, and not that you will ever get to
> see it first-hand,

Oooooops....hit a soft spot. I must have invaded one of those self
generated "realities" you're always takeing shelter in.

>but the sex can last hours instead of just three minutes,

Sure, if you expand your definition of sex to include anything remotely
sexual. And hey, if lesbian sex can include two guys rolling around for
hour pretending they don't have dicks, then I say heterosexual sex is
whenever I think about it. I have sex at least 16 hours a day, and
that's on a work day.

> and the orgasms are multiple and full-bodied, rather than everything being
> centered on someone's dick.

Unlike yours wich is centered on pretending you don't have one. You
evidently have had some bad experiences with straight sex (didn't know
what to do). Be assured that not every male who is not ashamed to have a
dick has fallen into the dulusion of the 180 second squirt. To think
that poking at something for a couple of minutes constitutes real sex
would be like thinking that a guy with a cock is a real lesbian
>
> Uber-Popess Nikitta Gardner
>

Mr.

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From: p-lil@ZubJenius.com (Popess Lilith von Fraumench)

On the eve of Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:39:17 -0400, in the Temple of
<35BFCEC5.36C9@enter.net>, strange@enter.net bellowed forth across the
wasteland:
>
>Hey, I think P-Lil wrote that book.

Yeah, and I'm still laughing my ass off every time I think about how many
people read that book for serious advice. Then again, the Library of Alexandria
didn't have a "humor" section, and we've seen what sorts of shit gets treated
as legitimate literature and reference materials.

Hey Strange: It's none of my business whether you have a dick or, assuming you
do have one, what you decide to do with it. If you wish to return the courtesy,
beautiful. Otherwise I'm going to start wondering about your weird obsessions
with my dick. I mean, maybe I'm more secure in my gender than you are in yours,
or maybe you secretly desire to suck off a transsexual. Who can tell? As long
as you're bent out of shape by what I have between my legs, these sorts of
questions have to come up now and then.

The irony is, I happen to AGREE with Strange on a lot of things, especially
about self-delusion. (The "reality" shit I could care less about--I've lasted
longer than many others, and have the will to keep on thriving no matter what.
Reality is what you can get away with, these days.) Shit, I get accused of
being a Holocaustal, of being fucked in the head, of being outright EVIL,
precisely because I've got such a hard-nosed view of the world. I don't believe
in welfare or artificial security. I prefer hard-earned accomplishments over
convenient esteem-propping trinkets. I'm equally proud of having dug trenches
in rock-hard dirt in the middle of summer, on one hand, and graduating from
college at the same time I'm dealing with the worst of my gender dilemmas.

Most of all, I, too, believe in being brutally honest with myself. Which is why
I didn't rush out the moment I suspected I was transsexual and start trying to
live out some hyperfeminine fantasy. I explored myself for years before I was
sure enough to start taking hormones. And now I'm even more confident, despite
bullshit to the contrary from my father and from occasional strangers.

Frankly, I don't see what the big deal is about.

P.Lil

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