Subject: MINORITY REPORT (light spoil)

From: tylermasse@yahoo.com (Tyler D.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tom-servo,rec.arts.movies.current-films,alt.slack

I went tonight. I fully recommend seeing it, and it is totally
gorgeous.

It was an extremely well-shot film, and the production values are
literally to-die-for. The CGI was so deft and well-done that one
hardly questions it.

Everything (plot-wise) in it that has the residue of Phillip K. Dick
is awe-inspiring.

Everything (plot-wise) after a certain point that has the residue of
Steven Speilberg is lackluster.

There is a jarring point in the movie where you can tell that the
story is over, and yet, it continues on. I wish he (SS) had not
tacked on his personal coda to Dick's perfect symphony of a plot arc.

I plan to download a nice rip of it and edit my own copy. (snip)

The first 90 minutes are perfect. The effects shots, the pre-supposed
technologies, the seamless weaving together of modern and future
elements, the computers/storage media/genetic tinkering, the temporal
elements....it is all Dick's brand of 'speculative fiction' at its
finest. Here we see a genius in full stride. I literally adore
certain parts of it.

The Hollywood ending, however, made me feel a bit dirty. SS felt the
need to sew up PKD's convoluted, closure-allergic SHORT STORY for the
folks in Peoria.

See it anyway. We are not going to be offered a finer piece of SF
this year.

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Subject: Re: MINORITY REPORT (light spoil)
From: trike@cinci.rr.com (Doug)

Well, opinions differ on that score.

It's a missed opportunity to visit Dick's paranoid "what is reality?"
world-view and streamline it into a coherent story.

> The Hollywood ending, however, made me feel a bit dirty. SS felt the
> need to sew up PKD's convoluted, closure-allergic SHORT STORY for the
> folks in Peoria.

It's completely unecessary, that's for sure. If a story is dark, let
it be dark.

> See it anyway. We are not going to be offered a finer piece of SF
> this year.

And that's such a sad commentary, isn't it?

I'm hoping that Shyamalan's Signs will actually be good, and I suspect
that MIB II will be better than Minority Report.

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Subject: Re: MINORITY REPORT (light spoil)
From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

trike@cinci.rr.com (Doug) hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
thunder crashed, trike@cinci.rr.com (Doug) laughed madly, then wrote:

>Well, opinions differ on that score.

No they DO NOT EITHER
I have not actually seen this movie but I will have none of htis
HUMANISTIC BULLSHIT in MY NEWSGROUP THANK YOU.

--

"Sister Agatha looked up from flat on her back, on
the mat, to see the five hundred pound, nude female sumo wrestler
descending on her, and she was forced to admit to herself that the
Pope had betrayed her."

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Subject: Re: MINORITY REPORT (light spoil)
From: Honk.blrpHOOOARGHH@excuseMe.com (yard man)

On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 06:41:52 GMT, joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)
wrote:

>I have not actually seen this movie but I will have none of htis
>HUMANISTIC BULLSHIT in MY NEWSGROUP THANK YOU.

anybody starring in this thing that has a hairy asshole?

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Subject: Re: MINORITY REPORT (light spoil)
From: tylermasse@yahoo.com (Tyler D.)

The CGI in MR was far, far better than the CGI is AOTC or Spider Man.
Spielberg does a few things very, very well. CGI is one of them.

> It's a missed opportunity to visit Dick's paranoid "what is reality?"
> world-view and streamline it into a coherent story.

Yes, but so far no one has had the balls to stick to one of PKD's
story without altering it. I guess it's somewhat of a tradition at
this point...

> It's completely unecessary, that's for sure. If a story is dark, let
> it be dark.

And stay dark. The chase in the middle, where they crash into
people's apartments, was stupid and pointless. The ending was
laughable.

> > See it anyway. We are not going to be offered a finer piece of SF
> > this year.
>> And that's such a sad commentary, isn't it?

Yesh, yesh it is.

> I'm hoping that Shyamalan's Signs will actually be good, and I suspect
> that MIB II will be better than Minority Report.

UNBREAKABLE was an utter failure. I hope he can redeem himself. MIB
II will be as silly and fluffy as the first movie was. It's hardly in
the same league as an ostensibly serious piece like MR.

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Subject: Re: MINORITY REPORT (light spoil)
From: "Jay G" <Jay@tmbg.org>

"Tyler D." <tylermasse@yahoo.com> wrote ...

> Yes, but so far no one has had the balls to stick to one of PKD's
> story without altering it. I guess it's somewhat of a tradition at
> this point...

Didn't Imposter hold true to the originial ending? I wouldn't know,
I never saw the movie, but I think the ending was the same. I
think Imposter might've been the closest adaptation of the
PKD story if they had kept with the 40 minute version.

It's odd that the screenwriters either take the first half of a PKD
story and completely alter the 2nd half (MR, Total Recall), or
they don't use anything besides the original premise ( Blade Runner,
Scanners). I've read that Terry Gilliam was interested in adapting
A Scanner Darkly at one point, but nobody will give him money
to make a film these days. Charlie Kaufman also wrote a screenplay
for the book at one point. I'd look forward to either of those
adaptations, since I feel both stay faitful to the themes and
ideas in the story, if not 100% accurate to the plot.

> > I'm hoping that Shyamalan's Signs will actually be good, and I suspect
> > that MIB II will be better than Minority Report.
>> UNBREAKABLE was an utter failure. I hope he can redeem himself. MIB
> II will be as silly and fluffy as the first movie was. It's hardly in
> the same league as an ostensibly serious piece like MR.

Just because MIB II will probably be light and fluffy doesn't make it
automatically worse than MR. If you enjoyed one far more than the
other, than that is the better movie.

My two favorite movies of 2001 were Memento and Shaolin Soccer.
These are two totally disparate films, yet I would be hard pressed
to choose which one I liked more.

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Subject: Re: MINORITY REPORT (light spoil)
From: antifrance@yahoo.com (Antifrance)

On 21 Jun 2002 23:34:17 -0700, tylermasse@yahoo.com (Tyler D.) wrote:

>There is a jarring point in the movie where you can tell that the
>story is over, and yet, it continues on. I wish he (SS) had not
>tacked on his personal coda to Dick's perfect symphony of a plot arc.

This was my primary complaint about AI as well. That movie should have
ended at the bottom of the ocean, as it likely would have if Kubrick
was around. Up until then, it wasn't bad (though not exactly Oscar
material).

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