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Log file opened at: 7/11/02 12:34:34 PM

*** Topic for #subgenius: AWESOME X-DAY STASH!!! http://www.fotki.com/gburgyan/subgenius/xd5

*** Topic for #subgenius set by Lilith on Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:14:09 AM
#subgenius: IvanStang @magdalen @Phloighd @sifu13 ``BoB`` @LouMinatti @gomez @Lilith @weinholt @danarchy @RevGary @slitta-away @skullY @RevSector @RDJaway @Asquire-Away @Sly|dinr @jeek

Lilith: Hey Dad.
IvanStang: My god, it appears that they all finally passed out.
Lilith: Everyone but the "regulars".
IvanStang: I have been checking in here a lot more than usual this week and have been shocked to see that some NEVER SLEEP... but I guess they do after all.
Lilith: I'm eating my usual breakfast of habanero sauce and aigs.
Lilith: Some just nap a lot.
IvanStang: I have all these logs with great commentary about the Drill, but I must painstakingly remove all the nasty personal stuff from 'em -- well SOME nasty personal stuff.
IvanStang: You can tell who has a job and who doesn't. Evidently I don't.
IvanStang: Oh yeah, this IS my job.
Lilith: Even when I had a job, I was in here a lot.
IvanStang: Boy did I fuck up today -- posted a bunch of pics to a.s. accidentally -- and they weren't even my pics.
Lilith: The cancel seemed to have worked by the time I got there.
IvanStang: EARLY this morning there was NO activity in this room -- it had gone down to nothing... birefly.
Lilith: That Cult of the Living Bull is pretty OK.
magdalen: hey stang
IvanStang: That's good... this was only an hour or two ago. I kept seeing them on Giganews when I'd come back or check for new articles.
IvanStang: Lil -- The Bull cult main folks, Dennis and Linda, Murphy, are TOP OF THE LINE folks, very good friends of mine and friends of the Church.
IvanStang: Hey Mag!
sifu13: oi stang!
IvanStang: Yo Sifu!
magdalen: man am I exhausted!!
magdalen: I think the "Bob" finally wore off
IvanStang: Sifu, what's your gal's name? Princess Wei says she looks just like a porcelain doll. Well her face.
Lilith: Stang: They're good friends of Thea, too, but I'm still a question mark in their minds.
IvanStang: Magdalen -- yes, everybody's finally getting back to bitching and moaning on a.s.
sifu13: her name is Lady Diana
magdalen: heh
Lilith: Stang: Diana IS a doll.
magdalen: we have short attention spans
IvanStang: Right, my memory... how did my memory get fucked up> Can't remember. last thing I remember is that cigar Sifu handed me.
Phloighd: ngggg! *squeezing* the *juice*, *campers*
Lilith: One of my favorite, non-reported (to date) quotes: "But... how can it be a LEGAL wedding?!?" "Psttttpsttpstpsttpsttt..." "...OH!!!"
magdalen: I'm totally planning to write more reportage to a.s. but I am so exhausted that my mind is not my friend
IvanStang: Look, Phloighd roused.
Lilith: Sifu: We never got cigars. *cries*
magdalen: Phloighd is trying to quit smoking
IvanStang: Magdalen -- I slept 12 hours straight on Monday, or maybe it was Tuesday.
Phloighd: yes. I'm putting all the evil energy into cleaning. so far the car's done
magdalen: ahh, the sleep cure! I should try that
Lilith: Mags: I've started up an X-Day Dreams thread. I know I'm not the only one who has X-Day Dreams.
IvanStang: I'm STILL copying stuff off my machine onto CDs so I can make room for a ton of video.
sifu13: lil. i completely forgot. next time i will have cubans for you and your bride
magdalen: I dreamed that Armand Geddyn came into the trailer and asked to see the Book of Life, and when I showed it to him he used a hacker trick to comepletely delete it!
Phloighd: my favorite quote this year was zute's beau walking into the roundhouse early one morning and saying loudly, apropos of nothing, "Y'know, that Josef Goebbels really was a GENIUS"
magdalen: but I laughed and said "You fool! This is only a COPY!"
Lilith: Sifu: OK, we'll.. we'll be ALL RIGHT... *whimper*
IvanStang: Phloighd -- I finally quit using patches, frop, evil energy spent on mindless chores, and I laid in bed reading great sci fi books. REALLY great sci fi books.
sifu13: aww lil.
sifu13: i feel terrible
sifu13: :(
IvanStang: Magdalen -- are you sure that was a dream? Alien abductions always SEEM like dreams, too.
magdalen: heh
Lilith gives Sifu BIG HUGS and STUFF
sifu13 burries his head in his arms
sifu13: yay
magdalen: I did have the worst dream of my life while at X-Day but I was so slacked out it didn't even scare me
sifu13 like big hugs
Phloighd: stang -- well, the house is really a mess, so I'm hoping to put this energy into something productive
magdalen: I was just like, "Wow, I just dreamed about an evil clown with steel fangs that eats people. That's some fucked up shit right there"
IvanStang: That ws no dream, Magdalen -- that really WAS El Gordo and Princess Party Girl, making out.
Phloighd: heh
Phloighd: poor fucker, you'll never let him live that down
magdalen: ewww
Lilith: Mags: But what about dreams ABOUT X-Day?
sifu13: hey lil, do you have a preferred brand?
magdalen: haven't had any to speak of so far
Lilith: Sifu: I don't know brands of Cubans, but a good maduro should be fine.
magdalen: though others tell me that I have been in their dreams of x-day
IvanStang: I shouldn't talk about El Gordo and Princess Party Girl this openly -- though I don't think Rev. Dale Ashmun reads this, I think he had a crush on Party Girl, and he'd probably be jealous to learn that El Gordo was nailing her.
Phloighd: I never did get to challenge anybody to a semi-regulated boxing match next year
Phloighd: I'd challenge 'gume, but everybody knows he's really just a big pussy
sifu13: lil: great you shall have them
Lilith: YAY CIGARS
IvanStang: Phloighd -- too bad, I bet pastor craig's jawbone would have been up for it.
Phloighd: heh
IvanStang: Yeah, if you say BOO! to legume he runs away crying like a little girl.
IvanStang: Try it.
magdalen: I am sad because I gave my email address to many people at xday but so far nobody has emailed me
Lilith: It's kinda sad that all my X-Day dreams have been devoid of saucers.
Phloighd: People are actually joining the Yahoo XDay group
Phloighd: once the house is cleaner I'll have to start putting some actual content
IvanStang: My email is still pretty screwy -- next week I get DSL, until then I'm aliasing everything to Princess Wei's sad little slow machine.
magdalen: they were all like "oh yeah we'll email back and forth, it will be great!"
IvanStang: Which makes me not want to answer email.
magdalen: but no!
magdalen: back in the Con world and their JOBS emailing me is much lower on the priority
IvanStang: It looks to me like a lot of our fellows haven't slept since X-Day, UNTIL NOW.
Phloighd: Okay. back to cleaning nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg GAH FUCKING NICOTENE GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
*** Phloighd is now known as phlcleannic
IvanStang: Good luck Phloighd.
sifu13: i'd email you mags
magdalen: well at least he really WANTS to quit
magdalen: that's the first step
magdalen: ok sifu, you can email me!
magdalen: but... we're already talking right now
IvanStang: Really wanting to quit is almost as good or bad as HAVING to quit.
sifu13: yay. lets have your adress
magdalen: magdalen@subgenius.com
IvanStang: Sometimes I give people subgenius.com aliases that they don't even know about, just so I will be able to remember their email address.
magdalen: oh well
magdalen: that sure was one great xday!!!
IvanStang: Well, bots shouldn't talk back... they ARE inferior.
magdalen: heh
magdalen: Yay! I got an email!
magdalen: thank you sifu!
sifu13: how do i get a @subgenius.com adress?
IvanStang: I know there must be tons more pictures out there. I will have... well... INFINITE more new ones once I STOP IRCing and get to the videotapes.
magdalen: heh
magdalen: there was like a continual flood of pictures and then it all dried up at once
sifu13: you are very welcome, mags
sifu13: heehe
sifu13 blushes
IvanStang: SiFu -- basically you ask me for one. I think the Connivib' Ivan's part has them for $35 a year? Except that they actually have lsted forever so far, I don't think we re-bill.
IvanStang: But bribes also earn one such an address and I feel well bribed.
sifu13: cool! what do i have to do?
phlcleanni: heh
sifu13: and thanks very much1
magdalen: I can't wait until next year!
sifu13: !
phlcleanni: get'im while he feels well bribed, so that you don't actually have anything to do
sifu13: heh
IvanStang: Tell me your current email address and what name you want, like, "sifu@subgenius.com" or "rev-sifu" or whatnot, that's it... it's just an alias, you don't have to change anythiung in your email set up whatsoever except that you CAN use your subgenius.com name as a return addres, and it's interchangeable with your "real" one.
magdalen: I hope next year there will be even more new hot guys!
magdalen: uh, I mean new members
IvanStang: Plus it can later be re-aliased to another ISP if you move.
IvanStang: Great Big members, huh Mags?
magdalen: heee!
sifu13: sifu13@aol.com
magdalen: it was just very funny because as we were going to x-day I said to the Lord "Oh sure YOU'LL have fun, there's always big-tittied pagan chicks for you to look at, but there won't be any new hot guys!"
magdalen: but there were!
magdalen: it turns out that half the people on this irc are young and good looking!
IvanStang: Sifu okay, I'm changing Nickie's too, I'll probably do that later today or tomorrow.
sifu13: greta. i'd like it to be sifu13, just like my nick here
magdalen: sometimes TOO young
sifu13: great too
IvanStang: One does tend to expect more people who look like fatter versions of me... I was pleasantly surprised. Sister rachel the Acolyte for instance doesn't look much like me at all.
magdalen: yeah she was great!
IvanStang: BE STILL MEIN HEART
IvanStang: I spent half the day yesterday on the phone getting great inside gossipry from Chas and Legume, mostly regarding non-SubGenius pagan dipshits tht ya'll don't know and don't want to know.
magdalen: heh
IvanStang: Most of the pagans are GREAT but this one monster woman has been AFTER chas and the denouement of all that was hilarious.
phlcleanni: heh
magdalen: man who knew that Codini could cook like that!
phlcleanni: I need more Buck Owens
magdalen: he's such a great guy
IvanStang: I REALLY like this "GLUTTONY" thing that's developing at X-Day.
magdalen: heh
magdalen: yeah we have to work all seven deadly sins in there somehow
IvanStang: Mags, have you seen the Codini animated "Bob" videos? Short clips, but incredibly great and weird?
magdalen: yeah!
magdalen: he gave me advice on flash before
IvanStang: Mags -- you have the OLD version of Dobbsfilm Shorties which has Burning Man and Starwood... the revised version has new Codini bits instead of Starwood
magdalen: cool!
IvanStang: Codini is a profesional film-video-computer-multimedia guy, like I used to be, only he still does it big-time.
magdalen: let's see... what other sins are we missing
phlcleanni: heh. We're gonna go in big for gluttony next year.
IvanStang: We have plenty of Envy.
phlcleanni: late roman decadence
phlcleanni: oh yeah
magdalen: lots of fornication
phlcleanni: sloth, duh
IvanStang: Not enough fornication for some. We could work on that.
magdalen: plenty of greed
sifu13: lots of frop!
IvanStang: Sloth we have covered.
magdalen: well I guess the sin is actually just "lust" so even teh non-fornicators count
IvanStang: We're thinking the 7 classical deadly Sins, which I can't remember.
magdalen: heh
IvanStang: We're all talk re: killing
magdalen: greed envy sloth lust blasphemy....
IvanStang: Gluttony is one tht most can agre on, though.
magdalen: and the other ones
sifu13: pride, lust, sloth, gluttony,greed,envy and anger
magdalen: woo hoo!
sifu13: i was analter boy. heh
IvanStang: I still say, if one could have a diverter valve in the esophagous that could send food to a colostomy bag type of thing after you swallow it, REAL SERIOUS gluttony could ensue.
sifu13: altar boy
IvanStang: You could eat ice cream ALL DAY and never get sick.
magdalen: how about just a jack in the head that stimulated the brain to make you THINK you were eating
IvanStang: You could then empty the bag of swallowed, melted icecream, or refreeze it and eat it again, or sell it sheap to the poor. Or donate it to churches.
magdalen: that way you wouldn't get "ice cream headache"
magdalen: sifu13: You know all five of the bachelors for "Bob" went to catholic school together!
sifu13: no shit
magdalen: you can always tella catholic school boy because the first chance they get they stick a dildo on their chin
sifu13: hahaha
IvanStang: Pride -- some of our people need to work on that. Lust-- check. Unchecked rather. Sloth - covered. Anger -- hmmm -- we'd have more anger if we had less sex.... a trade-off.
magdalen: we can let the Dobbs Youth handle the anger
IvanStang: You figure Mein Cock for a lapsed Catholic? He looks sort of Hispanic, he could easily be from a Catholic upbringing.
magdalen: they told me they all went to catholic school together
IvanStang: I ADORE Mein Cock. I will follow Mein Cock to the ends of the earth.
magdalen: heh
magdalen: I think he is polynesian or something
IvanStang: Ah, one of Legume's Samoan relatives perhaps.
magdalen: they told me that in "real life" he is the quietest one of them all
magdalen: little did they know!
IvanStang: I don't remember those guys from previous years but they sure made a lasting impression on me this year!
magdalen: this was the first year for four of them
IvanStang: Some people go nuts once the dick is strapped to their chins.
IvanStang: Oh
magdalen: the fifth one was like "I've been coming since '98 but nobody remembers me until I bring a guy with a chin dildo!"
IvanStang: Mag -- tht would be the real tall one?
magdalen: yeah
IvanStang: I have the DAMNEDEST time keeping these names and faces straight. Cause you often have a third and fouth name, from email or IRC, to contend with.
magdalen: they did eventually put a fire in their camp
magdalen: I know!
IvanStang: Like... Rev. Enki. I know I met him TWICE and yet I CANNOT remember which he is! Short haired straight looking guy in late 30s? I JUST DON'T KNOW!!!
weinholt: i need another name
IvanStang: The ones that pregegistered with credit cards, I know their real names and life histories. But these OTHERS...!
magdalen: ah, just call em "hey you! you with the cock!"
IvanStang: If you holler out, "Hey, DUMBASS!" almost all of them will turn around. I know I do.
magdalen: heh
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IvanStang: Sometimes I turn around even when it was ME that just shouted out, "Hey DUMBASS!"
phlcleanni: I remember Doc Terminus
magdalen: brb phone
IvanStang: Right, Doc Teminus! The tall one.
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phlcleanni: yeah.
phlcleanni: man, I just know I'm gonna put on a shitload of weight
IvanStang: I think it's great, as the Lord was saying, that even people who play super heroes, can play super heroes WHILE ALREADY playing superheros.
phlcleanni: heh
phlcleanni: like so many things in this religion, it's MULTILAYERED ALL TO FUCK
IvanStang: It's like, "The normals will never get me with TWO masks on!"
IvanStang: And both masks look just like your face.
phlcleanni: back to dishes
IvanStang: (That concept kiped from an ancient William Rotsler cartoon in an old sf fanzine of the 60s)
magdalen: heh
IvanStang: You see I have been greatly nerdy in my day. I even published a mimeographed fanzine around 1970 called "ASMODEUS"
IvanStang: It was so fucking fucked up.
magdalen: mimeograph rocks it old school!
magdalen: it was smelly
IvanStang: I went to all the local sf cons.
IvanStang: I OWNED a hand-cranked mimeograph that you inked manually.
magdalen: wow!
magdalen: did they HAVE to be that weird blue-purple color or what?
IvanStang: Don't confuse mimeo with ditto, the purple looking print.
magdalen: oh
magdalen: I must be thinking of ditto
sifu13: hey stang. any chance of having a pic of my ass on the first page of the subsite?
IvanStang: Xerox just never had that chemical smell that old school school ditto machines made
sifu13: i'd love to moon the newbies!
magdalen: heh
IvanStang: Sifu -- wow, I guess that would be a welcome change... for SOME... where is that pic, in the 4-XDay or the XXX Day collection?
IvanStang: You'd be mooning a lot of people -- we don't kee track any more but our front page gets a respectable number of hits.
sifu13: imagine going to www.subgenius.com and seeing this http://subgenius.com/bigfist/fun/devivals/X-Day98/POST-X-DAY-2/POST-X-Day2-pics/X-DayMisc./X-MISC/_arse.html
sifu13: heehee yeah
IvanStang: 98 -- post X-Day... AIIEEE! CENTURIES ago!
magdalen: whoah sis decadence just put up a whole new flood of pics
magdalen: I knew she was holding out on us!
IvanStang: I just saved a file titled, "Sifu's Ass Link"
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IvanStang: She didn't want to flood the servers but I encouraged her.
IvanStang: And then right after that I acidentally sent big pics to alt.slack
IvanStang: Duh-hyuk!
magdalen: heh
magdalen: man that sister squash was cool!
Rocknar: when we do something stupid at the trotter track, this one woman likes to give out "the goober award"
IvanStang: Sister Squash is a powerful wizard! Be careful!
Rocknar: "Well Randolph, you get the GOOBER award!"
IvanStang: Picked a few goobers, have you, Rocknar?
Rocknar: won a few DOUBLE-goober awards.
IvanStang: That Carter LeBlanc brings something weird to X-day every time. Once it was Dave, the guitar player.
magdalen: sister squash is friend to all squash!
magdalen: do not fear her!
IvanStang: At my first job, my nickname was "Dumb Shit" -- same initials
IvanStang: I am... not squash however.
sifu13: rocknar!
Rocknar: hey sifu
sifu13: wassup man?
Rocknar: gotta go into work this evening
Rocknar: first night back
sifu13: anything i need to know about the disk you gave me?
Rocknar: you have a MAME disk?
IvanStang: I was an exceedingly clumsy young man in all ways, although the clumsiness was soon beat partially out of me. So I sympathize with the clumsy young men of the Church of the SubGenius. It's the clumsy 40 year olds that worry me.
Lilith is gone, 30 Minute Auto Away
Rocknar: you'll need something to unzip the MAME program and rom files.
IvanStang: Some of these guys, NO job can beat the clumsiness out of.
magdalen: time for food!
IvanStang: If only there was no conspiracy, we could all retain our youthful clumsiness... mayhaps even our treasured IGNORANCE!
IvanStang: Many years of varied Conspiracy jobs eventually beat the innocense out of me as well as my spelling.
IvanStang: I would love to see the future generations have more Slack. Then they can evolve into Eloi.
Rocknar: if there were no church, we'd all of us have gone insane and killed our co-workers.
IvanStang: Then my Morlock descendents can FARM and EAT them and finally get some Slack themselves.
IvanStang: If there was a true bible for the SubGeniuses, the truly prophetic work BEFORE The Book of the SubGenius, it's H.G. Wells' original 1897 novel, THE TIME MACHINE, not to be confused with the recent Pinked-down movie
Rocknar: au contrare
IvanStang: That is my testimony; I have spoken.
Rocknar: it may be pinked down
Rocknar: but it has the FAMILY MARK!
IvanStang: THERE IS NO UBERMORLOCK. NO HUNTER MORLOCK. NO SPY MORLOCK. THERE ARE ONLY... ALL MORLOCKS,
Rocknar: the guy who directed this new version is H. G. Wells great-grandson
IvanStang: That pissant great grandson of the true H.G. SOLD OUT!! He completely CASTRATED the MAIN BASIC POINT of Wells' original story. Utterly removed the socially relevant MAIN GIST because he's a fucking YUPPIE PINK.
IvanStang: If I could get my hands around Simon Wells' neck I would THROTTLE that pink ass cowartdly sold out bastard with my bare hands.
IvanStang: While quoting THE FOOD OF THE GODS
Rocknar: AH, the Stang of OLD, brimming with PURE UNBRIDALED HATE!
IvanStang: His ancestor was the greatest scientific genius of his day, aeons ahead of everybody else, and his asshoel descendent turns it into "Indiana Jones Saves the Ravers from the Bikers."
IvanStang: PTUI!!!!
IvanStang: And we Morlocks shall get our revenge on his Pink little simpering bovine great grandchildren... I hope he lives to se it. He'll lkearn what Great-Gramps really meant -- FIRST HAND!!
IvanStang: Eloi TRASH! Eloi SCUM! Eloi -- PUSSY!
IvanStang: (pant pant)
IvanStang: FOOEY!
IvanStang: FEH! PTUI!
phlcleanni: yeah!
phlcleanni: what he said!
phlcleanni: or something.
IvanStang: WE SHALL BURY YOU!!! Wait... we will be living underground... well... WE WILL BURY YOU DEEPER! That's my word to the Eloi. WATCH YOUR BACKS, PINK ONES!
IvanStang: Just thinking about that stupid movie (which I have downloaded a copy of) makes me want to put on some old time Johnny Winter. (Whe the movie's ubermorlock exactly resembles, although he's really Jeremy irons in makeup)
Rocknar: I bet Simon Wells next project will be a re-make of WAR OF THE WORLDS
*** IvanStang is now known as Stang-Lurker
Rocknar: You stil recording all these text logs for the sake of future history, if any?
*** phlcleannic is now known as phloighd
phloighd: okay, now here's the question
phloighd: if I go buy frop
weinholt: uh oh, the future is spying on us
phloighd: will it make me wanna smoke (tobacco) MORE... or LESS
Rocknar: I can't say...
Rocknar: I never smoke...tobacco.
sifu13: smoke frop, not tobacco
Rocknar: glad I taped Simpsons and South Park....cable's out again

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sifu13: hey black, what's yer email, dude?
sifu13: oi stang. popeblack doesn't believe i had the best frop at xday!
IvanStang: Been runnin' these machines hard... Muleskinner froze up in the middle of a CD burn, had to stop and resaddle.
Rocknar: Stang, remember meeting Sifu in 98?
IvanStang: Sifu got this year's Bobbie Award for it.
IvanStang: Yes
Lilith is back
Lilith: Stang: Toast simply does not burn worth a fuck anymore. I have to use Discribe or NeroMax, and they don't allow background burns, damn it.
Rocknar: Nero allows background burns on my Dell
Rocknar: but I don't have a Reg key
SGSpice: i burned some toast this morning.
PopeBlack: Stangus1!
Lilith: Rocknar: I'm talking the Mac version.
IvanStang: Huh? Toast works great for me, in this prticular case I suspect I actually had the rare bad disc blank -- it looked weird, had a spot on it.
IvanStang: It was a mechanical problem.
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Rocknar: hey TB
SGSpice: beeeeeeenz!
IvanStang: Some people PREFER burnt toast.
sifu13: beans
Lilith: Stang: Yeah, I have no idea why, I might just have to yank it all and put it back in anew.
TwoBeans: yo
Lilith: The drive's FINE, though. Go figure.
IvanStang: Uh-oh, two Beans showed up just when I did. he must be stalking me.
Lilith: Hey TB
Rocknar: maybe STang has an updated version
SGSpice: being as i am a carbon based lifeform, i need to replenish.
Rocknar: or something is up
TwoBeans: Stang: Or the other way around
IvanStang: Yanking is always good...
IvanStang: No, I was here first.
Rocknar: You have a G4, donntcha LIL?
Lilith: Stang: Speaking of stalkers, I just sent you the Patriopsychotic archive from Yahoo! SubGenius.
IvanStang: You'rer stalking me.
Lilith: Rocknar: G3
SGSpice: he's after your soup.
Rocknar: there you go
IvanStang: How could I stalk you if you're BEHIND me?


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