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Re: [SubG] once upon a time
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[SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix
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[SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death Re: [SubG] once upon a time
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 08:36:40 -0400
From: "Rev. Heretic, eh?" <Yeah@right.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] once upon a time
Xoe wrote:
>Even though I'm not really here...I'm not gone yet! Joey's keeping me in touch. AND, no WILL WYLDE, not a GWAR dick. a REAL DICK!!! A REAL LIVE DICK!
>And, Brian...the feelings are returned. Or, were. Once you said you were a virgin, I found you very attractive. Now I have to read the rest of what you fuckers said about me!
Nice try Brian,
But we want the real Xoe...
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 09:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: Re: [SubG] once upon a time
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Xoe wrote:
>And, Brian...the feelings are returned. Or, were. Once you said you were a virgin, I found you very attractive. Now I have to read the rest of what you fuckers said about me!
Kewl. Now I have an in with the ladies. Maybe I'll develop a social life. "So, hot mama, did I mention... I was a virgin!?"
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 09:26:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: Re: [SubG] once upon a time
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Rev. Heretic, eh? wrote:
>Xoe wrote: [Or did she?]
>Nice try Brian,
>But we want the real Xoe...
I'm flattered you would mistake me for Xoe. I didn't know we looked so similar! But alas, I wouldn't go to the trouble of getting a Neatherlands addess (or whatebver .nl) stands for just to impersonate HER. Also: This month my X-Files calendar features a picture of Skinner, looking down. What is he looking at? An alien? Scully performing her duties? His shoelaces?
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:57:16 -0700
From: Chaim Al-Shoah <zalkin@geocities.com> Subject: [SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix
>Actually, I believe that it is 18 in the US. Wasn't there just a big scandal about this 18 year old kid who got a sixteen year old pregnent? As I understand the story, he was totally committed to her and got a job to be able to support the child but they threw him in jail for rape.
Somehow, that doesn't seem like a scandal - after all, according to what I've heard, schools don't have no sex education in many states, so the kids will have to learn it the hard way (no pun intended).
chaim
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 10:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: Re: [SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Chaim Al-Shoah wrote:
>>Actually, I believe that it is 18 in the US. Wasn't there just a big scandal about this 18 year old kid who got a sixteen year old pregnent? As I understand the story, he was totally committed to her and got a job to be able to support the child but they threw him in jail for rape.
>Somehow, that doesn't seem like a scandal - after all, according to what I've heard, schools don't have no sex education in many states, so the kids will have to learn it the hard way (no pun intended).
Well, the scandal was that everyone, including the jury on the case, beleived that he should be allowed to stay out of jail so he could work and make money so his girlfriend didn't have to support the baby on her own. Now he's got like a five or ten year sentence.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:53:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayhnum1@aol.com
Subject: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
ladies and gentlemen I was born a complete idiot. I was perfect by nature an angel- truly good- a good person So I got beat and kicked the shit out of constantly, it was if i died and went straight to hell- had the snot kicked out of me all my life since 2 years old. nobody caried that I was good, they just made damn sure I was damn bloody. I was abused teachers and scout leaders and I believed all their lies. Violin lessens for 15 years not to mention piano, and 10 years of hebrew school which screwed me up for life. I was a parents dream- But What i didn't know was my Goodness would distroy me by 40 years of age. I gave away my money to the poor. Worked 80 hours a week at a non union southern steel mill getting $3.60 an hour working for nazi's that killled my complete family during wwll. When i looked to insurance for support after a terrible accident- i got $2000. When anyone made a business deal with me- the allways ripped me off. Now I am disabled and penniless you think your life sucks- Fuck you
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:36:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>you think your life sucks- Fuck you
Stop bitching asshole. You think that's a bad story? I'm still using a 486 for a computer, and my student loans and scholarships aren't enough for me to buy the 233 Mhz Pentium II I want. So go bitch to someone who cares.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 17:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayhnum1@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
486 what the hell is that- I'm still making payments on my sinclair 100 one day one day i'll get that Colico Adam computer I have always dreamed about and then then those damn assholes would have wished they had treated me better damn nab it gerrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 18:48:34 -0400
From: Joe Francia <scaba@dds.nl>
Subject: Re: [SubG] once upon a time
That was the real Xoe. She came over my house yesterday to celebrate our recent independence from the British, and wanted to respond to all of the things said about her in the list. The reason her return address was from the Netherlands, is because that's my return address. There is a free e-mail/web place (much like GeoCities) in Holland called De Digitale Staat on which I have an account, which is a good place to have one if you can read Dutch (which I can to some degree). I hope you can believe me.....
At 09:26 AM 7/5/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Rev. Heretic, eh? wrote:
>>Xoe wrote: [Or did she?]
>>Nice try Brian,
>>But we want the real Xoe...
> I'm flattered you would mistake me for Xoe. I didn't know we
>looked so similar! But alas, I wouldn't go to the trouble of getting a
>Neatherlands addess (or whatebver .nl) stands for just to impersonate HER.
>Also: This month my X-Files calendar features a picture of Skinner,
>looking down. What is he looking at? An alien? Scully performing her
>duties? His shoelaces?
>'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
"Freedom is a gift wasted on most people"
- -Joe Francia, author of
<underline>The Menarchist's Cookbook
Solipsism for Everybody
</underline>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 19:33:25 -0400
From: Dan Kinney <amscray@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
BCR wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>>you think your life sucks- Fuck you
>Stop bitching asshole. You think that's a bad story? I'm still using a 486 for a computer, and my student loans and scholarships aren't enough for me to buy the 233 Mhz Pentium II I want. So go bitch to someone who cares.
Jeeesusss H. Kerist. I'm still speaking Middle English, my first language, and have to spend HOURS with a future dictionary just to be able to add a little tone to this hopeless list.
So whine about substansive things, like those fuckin' Celts.
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
I got sme CDs today. It worked out well. I brought like eight or s CDs I never listen tooooooooooooooooo to the used cd place, made off with three cds and ten bucks. I got the Jamirooooquai CD, and it is excellent, something for everybodsy, a little jazz, a little funk, a little disco, a little techno. I guess it doesn't have anything for people who just listen to metal and "alternative" crap. I also picked up Halo 11 (and it saddens me Xoe was probably the only one on the list who would know what that is.) I kicks ass. Has a remix by Orb on it. I've groooooooooooved on it as much as Fixed, which is saying something. I got the old US3 album toooo.
So, after that little excursion, i went to the Elecrtic Circus, the arcade where my friend Jared works. He hooks me up with free games and stuff, but I'm not really into arcade games. I just play air hockey. I went over to the McDonalds near the Circus, and I found ut a neat trick., Order a Cheeseburger meal and a Triple cheese burger. $3. Great deal. Lotsa meat, and fries and a drink.
Later, after Jared got oooooooooff work, we went to the video store to rent pornos. He insisted that I rent his for him, because he would be embarrassed to rent it for himself. he gave me a Ten, and when I only gave him the change back the (cute) girl gave me, he had a little hissy fit about hw he only wanted the one videoo, not both. He didn't get embarrased, though. he's kind of a Lenny type, except not like Huge and strong.
But anyway, i'm coopying Jared Poooornoooooooooooo now. There was this girl who had her bush shaved into a little V shape. I hate that! I like a nice thick bush... I don't know why I never see this on girls in porn movies. They have all these little styles, like a little strip, or a rectangle or whatever. They all suck. Completely shaved is better than some crazy style, but not as gooood as a nice thick bush.
Its funny; When I was with Laura, my one girlfriend, one time I was talking to her, and it was before I had ever seen her naked, and I mentioned that I liked a nice thick bush and she felt bad since she had just cut hers. It wasn't so bad, though. It grew back. Miscommunication.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Subgenius Digest Monday, July 7 1997 Volume 06 : Number 879
[SubG] Nothing
Re: [SubG] Nothing
Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
[SubG] Also,
[SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 04:18:32 -0400
From: Joe Francia <scaba@dds.nl>
Subject: [SubG] Nothing
I'm not sure if I'm predestined to believe in Free Will, or if I made the choice to accept Predestination...
I'm changing my name to John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt...I suggest you all do the same, just to make that song true.
Hanson = Boyz II Girlz
Are there any girls out there who wanna fuck me? I'm only afraid of fear....
Love...
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
(His name is my name too)
"I kissed her, and then I jetted."
---Watson Poland, 1996
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:22:15 +0100
From: John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt <p5ypher@geocities.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Nothing
Happy now?
JJJS
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 11:29:52 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>486 what the hell is that- I'm still making payments on my sinclair 100 one day one day i'll get that Colico Adam computer I have always dreamed about and then then those damn assholes would have wished they had treated me better damn nab it gerrrrrrrrrrrrr
You guys have it toooooo easy. I'm still using the Babbage Special(tm). It uses steam and has little cogs an' wheels. Six hours to get a head of steam for 10 minutes of 'computing'. Did I mention the smoke signal modem? The grinding of gears gives me *such* a headache.
- --Ralf
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 16:45:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayhnum1@aol.com
Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
just got my electric abicus. its digital and it only took me 10 days to write this message- now for something completely different I was with I.G. Farben during the war. Work was 18 hours a day if you
didn't
want your body to be turned into Soap.
Dutch East india Company sold slaves from in todays dollars for 2000 for a small girl or old women to over 25000 for the best bucks and house negros. I went for two cents an hour till dead from starvation which came within weeks.
The men slaves were maybe 3 dollars, but most women and children were immediately gassed. I.G. Farben made secret deals with the Rockefellers standard oil and subsidiaries to hide their wealth until the '60's when the new
krupp conglomerates of germany could re-emerge. i'm so happy my skin blood and sinnu were so ecconomically and efficiantly expunged pulverized and utterly melted vaporized and burned for the smokestacks of the industrial aristocracy what a pleasure it was to work for them. one day i got an extra perk, we all got to go out on the ice and watch a fellow prisoner freeze to death,
while the schultz staffe laughed. Another example of work that paid off big time
fuck you all fuck you all fuck you all- if there is a hell your all going so shuv off now
you bastards
let us never forget the Great Werner Von Braun the head of the united States Space program, him and the rest of the padamunde group. They used to string jews up with piano wire by the hundred, Von Braun himself killed over 25,000 of us- Just another Example of your dollars put to good use for the American government- and you can all go to hell every last one and Remember WORK MAKES FREE
WORK MAKES FREE
WORK MAKES FREE
WORK MAKES FREE
WORK MAKES FREE
THE GREATEST PERVERSION OF JESUS'S TRUTH MAKES FREE TRUTH MAKES FREE
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 16:57:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
Its funny how rain just makes everything look dirtier. Or perhaps messier. It takes that coating of dirt and dust and crap on everything and it makes it just wet enough to stick to you. Its raining today. My friend Jared and I went to the Flea market, confronted by the dirt and the dust and the crap of humanity. An old toothless woman hawked her pet store wares to Jared while I wandered around the little place, looking at the assorted knickknacks, an tons, literally tons of records. Or vinyl as people call them nowadays.
There was a cut little girl there, maybe six. She could barely talk. She was missing a tooth and I thought for a moment it was a sign of neglect but then I remembered that kids lose their teeth. I overheard her conversation with her white trash mother in snippets. I heard something about "that word" you know "F. The F-Word." I heard her say, "Look at ther teeth," and as I glanced over I saw a mouth full of half rotted, nicotine stained teeth flash in the direction of another white trash woman standing nearby. The Mom laughed her gargled, smoke polluted rasping laugh, and said, "I've a fine set, ah?" The girl seemed obsessed with curse words, asking about this that and the other. Her comment on "God" and "God damn" angered her Mother but befuddled her. "Why is that a curse word, Mommy?"
I realized as we left that Jared and I have this male-female relationship. Its not sexual, very anti-sexual in fact. But I'm the domineering one, where he is passive, but I don't feel comfortable with my role, and neither does he. He always wants me to take charge, and I always want to relax.
And I realized why I hate everyone, you and yours. I was listening to the radio and "Rooster" by Alice in Chains came on. Its a great song, the best by Alice In Chains, in my opinion. I was singing along, and Jared tried but he didn't know the words. He pumped up the volume, though, and I felt the kind of beautiful ecstasy that only music can produce, driving down the street. And I realized that my inability to share these feelings, this love of pain, my love of depression with other people. I can only be happy by being sad and even if someone understands the concept, they can never get all of it. It's fractal, in a way. It is sorta like the consideration of Godel's incompleteness therom, everytime you analyse it it gets deeper.
I feel that I am so unique that everyone else is so far away, like the amount that I am different is like a dimension of closeness, and that I am infinitely far away from everyone. And whenever I find that some one has something in common with me, its just infinity minus one.
If this kind of thinking just pisses you off, don't read Microserfs by Douglas Coupland, because i think that's what put me in this funk.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:03:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: [SubG] Also,
How can I be so stupid? Was I just fooling myself all these years, thinking I was *gasp* smart? I was reading Microserfs today, and there was this reference to the movie Soylent Green, and it was a direct comparison to two other things.
But what got me was that at the end of the movie, Charlton Heston says, "Soylent green is people!" And I never, ever, at all considered this in any sense other than the literal. In fact, I always mistakenly remember the quote as, "Soylent green is made out of people." But because of that little SAT exercise, Soylent Green:People as x:y, I now realize that here is this other thing that say Soylent Green happens because of people, soylent green is people's nature, soylent green is people. What the hell is wrong with me?
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:46:11 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
I finished reading Microserfs. It was like an all day book fest. Read like 300 pages today. (Just noticed I instinctively lollygag the '0' key as well as the 'o' key, which maybe says something about my brain). Anyways, you must go read this book! Best mindfuck book I've read in years. HeinLein and RAW were great when I was 12 and 13, but when I came back to them they just didn't have that thing. This book is a little older, a little more mature. I'm scared of maturity.
Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo only posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have anything to talk about.
Maybe I've been dropping too much personal soap opera lately, angsting too much, so, sorry. I'll go kill myself.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 20:55:05 -0400
From: "Rev. Dr. Mario" <revmario@bridge.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>WORK MAKES FREE
>WORK MAKES FREE
>WORK MAKES FREE
>WORK MAKES FREE
>THE GREATEST PERVERSION OF JESUS'S TRUTH MAKES FREE TRUTH MAKES FREE
Sheesh!! If I told you jew swine once I told you a thousand times:
ARBEIT MACHT FREI
The English language is the language of the vanquished. Or... ahh... it will be. We, of the South Florida Nazi Party, are working 'round the clock to make good our beloved Fuhrer's dream of a perfect world. It took us this long just to reunite the Fatherland but now things are moving right along.
So, you subhuman dogs, best get your affairs in order 'cause there's yet ANOTHER Reich coming around the corner & this one's going to be around for a thousand years. Furthermore, we're REALLY miffed at the way you portrayed the glorious sons of Germany as a bunch of incompetents in that lame-assed show "Hogan's Heroes." What are you, making fun here? Some heads are gonna roll for that one.
Diiiiiis-miiiiiiised!
- --
Rev. Dr. Wilhelm von Klink
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 03:09:04 +0100
From: Earle <p5ypher@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
> Maybe I've been dropping too much personal soap opera lately,
Or perhaps you've been dropping too much acid lately and we all actually post at least 300 messages an hour and you don't notice.
Earle
P.S. Rwalf and Hil? (Yeah, yeah, I know...)
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:18:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BCR <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Earle wrote:
>> Maybe I've been dropping too much personal soap opera lately,
>Or perhaps you've been dropping too much acid lately and we all actually post at least 300 messages an hour and you don't notice.
And I even forgot that I took the acid. Pretty bad addiction I have.
>P.S. Rwalf and Hil? (Yeah, yeah, I know...)
???????
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:41:05 +0100
From: Marian Zeletz <marianz@netropolis.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
> I finished reading Microserfs. It was like an all day book fest. Read like 300 pages today. (Just noticed I instinctively lollygag the '0' key as well as the 'o' key, which maybe says something about my brain). Anyways, you must go read this book! Best mindfuck book I've read in years. HeinLein and RAW were great when I was 12 and 13, but when I came back to them they just didn't have that thing. This book is a little older, a little more mature. I'm scared of maturity.
Could you please define "mindfuck" book for me? That genre was never discussed in any of my English lit. seminars.
> Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo only posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have anything to talk about.
You know what's scaring me, Brian? I think your brain's infiltrating mine. Lately when I'm watching videos, or movies, I catch myself just staring at some of the men's crotches and trying to figure out how big their penises are. It's much easier to tell something about their penis if they're wearing pants with a nice soft drapable fabric. Tight pants or jeans are OK, but you only get the general bulge effect, you can't really pick out any details. I find myself thinking about licking various parts of their bodies, like starting at the arch in the foot and traveling up the inner thigh, and so on. I find myself wishing I could grab a nice comfortable handful of sweet sweet guy butt.
> Maybe I've been dropping too much personal soap opera lately, angsting too much, so, sorry. I'll go kill myself.
NO BRIAN, DON'T DO THAT!!! Not until you get your brain out mine! Do you want me to be posting obscene lustful things about men on this list every other minute? Do you want me to have !!!!!!!!!!!, or ||||||||||||||| keys that stick? Or perhaps \\\\\\\\\\\\\\, /////////////////, (((((((((((((((((, ))))))))))))))))), or llllllllllllllllllll keys sticking? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT????? All of those keys COULD be sticking if you don't stick ((((((((((damn--see?))))))))))) around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 00:27:32 -0400
From: Hal Phillips <bocko@webspan.net>
Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
BCR wrote:
>And I realized that my inability to
>share these feelings, this love of pain, my love of depression with other
>people. I can only be happy by being sad and even if someone understands
>the concept, they can never get all of it. It's fractal, in a way. It is
>sorta like the consideration of Godel's incompleteness therom, everytime
>you analyse it it gets deeper.
>I feel that I am so unique that everyone else is so far away, like
>the amount that I am different is like a dimension of closeness, and that
>I am infinitely far away from everyone. And whenever I find that some one
>has something in common with me, its just infinity minus one.
Is there anything wrong with strongly implying a word you're not allowed to type, like D-to-the-I-to-the-T-to-the-T-to-the-O? But in any case... go to a CD shop. Buy SEASICK by Imperial Teen, as fast as you possibly can. Listen to it six times in a row.
- --
- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hal Phillips
Will do things for money.
Home Page: http://www.microsoft.com
Birthday Countdown: 3 2 1 BOOM!
Obligatory Signature Quote on hiatus.
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 13:38:33 -0400
From: Joe Francia <scaba@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
If you think that's bad, I have to shout 1's and 0's into the phone just to communicate with y'all....
At 11:29 AM 7/6/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>>486 what the hell is that- I'm still making payments on my sinclair 100 one day one day i'll get that Colico Adam computer I have always dreamed about and then then those damn assholes would have wished they had treated me better damn nab it gerrrrrrrrrrrrr
>You guys have it toooooo easy. I'm still using the Babbage Special(tm). It uses steam and has little cogs an' wheels. Six hours to get a head of steam for 10 minutes of 'computing'. Did I mention the smoke signal modem? The grinding of gears gives me *such* a headache.
>--Ralf
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 01:33:30 -0400
From: Dan Kinney <amscray@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
BCR tells all:
>I feel that I am so unique that everyone else is so far away, like the amount that I am different is like a dimension of closeness, and that I am infinitely far away from everyone. And whenever I find that some one has something in common with me, its just infinity minus one.
I believe the term is 'teminal uniqueness', and I have it in spades. And have had my entire life.
In day-to-day, living-on-the-planet sort of terms, terminal uniqueness isn't a whole lot of fun and doesn't, generally, attract alot of fans. In my experience, anyway. My sense of seperateness makes it difficult to deal with people I am not close to, and of course being self-absorbed doesn't invite closeness. That's a fairly small-time problem, though.
A larger fuckup, in my life, is that when I do become close to people - and I do - the intensity can be pretty burdensome all around. The three times I've been terrifyingly in love, which included a two year marrige, it seems to me now that I was a script writer desperately putting together the Biggest Movie Ever Filmed. It made for some of the most deeply touching and movingly beautiful periods I've ever had - I found it impossible to believe other human beings ever really had hit the spaces I was in. But I have to wonder sometimes if the objects of my love or whatever were really who I felt they were, or just neccasary actors in my script. Rather nasty thought, that.
My "career" has been along those lines, too. I've worked alot in political campaigns and Great Crusades (was with Greenpeace for two years, and getting arrested was in my job description: we're talking fun, here). I mean that I've always done "unique" stuff, usually In Service to Ideals. Crusader Rabbit. I can't just _work_.
Now that I'm on the couch, though, Herr Doktor, I have to wonder why I've never had a real sense of satifaction with myself, or, really, anyone else. Aside from the fact that everything sucks, I mean.
The few people I know who I really admire seem to be in the moment, to be focused, most of the time. Not that they don't think deeply, have doubts, etc. But they seem to be much closer than I to the Zen concept of Mindful Practise, of washing the dishes 100% when they wash the dishes, not be thinking that washing dishes sucks.
So on one hand I terriblely want to lose my sense of uniquness in the universe - transcendence by definition for me means not just me - and I know that it's possible, I've been there.
But I also have a huge fear of NOT being Unique, of losing this existential pain. Some of it's because I'm a snob and Not Like You. But I think its mostly that I'm afraid to give up my pain. If it wasn't there, I wouldn't be here anymore. I'd be someone else.
Reading through what i just wrote, I picked up the subtext of me being on A Noble Mission. It's like, I can't fucking HELP myself. I think the only way for me to be on a Noble mission is too stop thinking I'm so fucking Unique and Noble. But I don't know how, or I'm afraid, or something.
So thanks for starting me off on that horrible confession, there, Brian ol' buddy. Jeez, and it's not even raining here in self-satified Connecticut.
Dan aka amscray
Noble Savage & Moral Beacon
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[SubG] (no object)
[SubG] sexual athletes only
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Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" [SubG]What she really thinks
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Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
Re: [SubG] Independence....
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:02:43 -0700
From: Chaim Al-Shoah <zalkin@geocities.com> Subject: [SubG] (no object)
>I'm still using a 486 for a computer, and my student loans and scholarships aren't enough for me to buy the 233 Mhz Pentium II I want.
Pentium S U X X
chaim
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:12:40 -0700
From: Chaim Al-Shoah <zalkin@geocities.com> Subject: [SubG] sexual athletes only
Marian confessed:
>You know what's scaring me, Brian? I think your brain's infiltrating mine. Lately when I'm watching videos, or movies, I catch myself just staring at some of the men's crotches and trying to figure out how big their penises are. It's much easier to tell something about their penis if they're wearing pants with a nice soft drapable fabric. Tight pants or jeans are OK, but you only get the general bulge effect, you can't really pick out any details. I find myself thinking about licking various parts of their bodies, like starting at the arch in the foot and traveling up the inner thigh, and so on. I find myself wishing I could grab a nice comfortable handful of sweet sweet guy butt.
Hallelu-"bob"! She's cured!
chaim
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:58:56 -0500
From: "Dr. Jeremy D. Burns" <jburns@1starnet.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
At 11:17 PM 7/5/1997 -0400, bcr wrote:
> I got sme CDs today. It worked out well. I brought like eight or s CDs I never listen tooooooooooooooooo to the used cd place, made off with three cds and ten bucks. I got the Jamirooooquai CD, and it is
Stevie Wonder. An excellent replica, but Stevie Wonder nonetheless. I dig it.
>excellent, something for everybodsy, a little jazz, a little funk, a little disco, a little techno. I guess it doesn't have anything for people who just listen to metal and "alternative" crap.
as are "Innervisions" and "Songs in the Key of Life", two killer Stevie plattahs.
I think only old people listen to metal now, or so it would appear.
> I also picked up Halo 11 (and it saddens me Xoe was probably the only one on the list who would know what that is.) I kicks ass. Has a remix by Orb on it. I've groooooooooooved on it as much as Fixed, which is saying something. I got the old US3 album toooo.
Whatever. You must have forgotten about the NIN/Reznor debate that went on for a long time here about a year ago. I do like Fixed better than Brooooooken...I guess there's a moral there. By the way, THIS:
>I kicks ass.
is an *awesome* .sigline...
jburns@1starnet.com
"Dammit, we're not gods, Jim...we're scientists!"
http://www.720.org/
...i feel more like i do now than i did before...
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:20:06 +0100
From: Earle <p5ypher@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
BCR:
>>P.S. Rwalf and Hil? (Yeah, yeah, I know...)
> ???????
I'll requote you:
>its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have
^^^^^ ^^^
I was just being picky about the typos.
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:24:15 +0100
From: Earle <p5ypher@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] sexual athletes only
>Marian confessed:
>>[nusked]
>Hallelu-"bob"! She's cured!
> chaim
Cured? You think being a dyke is a disease? Or being gay in general is a disease? Personally I think gay people are the nicest, friendliest group of people I've ever encountered. Don't misjudge 'em for being different. Although if Marian really wants to go bi, I shan't object. Har.
Earle
My rant for the month is now done.
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:28:58 +0100
From: Earle <p5ypher@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
>> I finished reading Microserfs. It was like an all day book fest. Read like 300 pages today. (Just noticed I instinctively lollygag the '0' key as well as the 'o' key, which maybe says something about my brain). Anyways, you must go read this book! Best mindfuck book I've read in years. HeinLein and RAW were great when I was 12 and 13, but when I came back to them they just didn't have that thing. This book is a little older, a little more mature. I'm scared of maturity.
>Could you please define "mindfuck" book for me? That genre was never discussed in any of my English lit. seminars.
That reminds me - has anyone here read that book with the title that's something like "The First $20 Million is Always The Hardest"? Apparently it's a fictional story about some computer pioneers that comes a little too close to real life for the industry to like it. Anybody know who it's by?
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:33:11 +0100
From: Earle <p5ypher@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
Joe Francia:
>If you think that's bad, I have to shout 1's and 0's into the phone just to communicate with y'all....
Phone?! You're lucky. I just have a tin cup, attached to a reeeeally long piece of string, that's nailed at the other end to another cup at my service provider's offices.
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:47:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Sammy Ominsky <sambo@charm.net>
Subject: Re: [SubG] Head butt=Ear bite
Those Brits...
>>>Once did a bit of sacking and pillaging myself as a fan of Liverpool FC.
>>Liverpool...
>Well, Chelsea are a bunch of wankers. I forgot to mention that the year
>>Could be worse. You could have been a Manchester *Hwaaak p'Tooey!* United
>No I never had much love for the Manchester Eunuchs either. The teams we really hated though were Arsenal (aka Arsehole) and Leeds United. Forget why.
Fucking pansy football lovers.
Rugby's the only real sport and the All Blacks are the only real team.
- ---sambo
scrum bum
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Bennett <bennett@hpl.umces.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>ladies and gentlemen I was born a complete idiot. [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk]
>Now I am disabled and penniless you think your life sucks- Fuck you
Thank you! It always makes me feel better when I see someone as pathetic as you. Have an even more shitty day!
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 10:28:46 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: Re: [SubG] sexual athletes only
Earle wrote:
>>Marian confessed:
>>>[nusked]
>>Hallelu-"bob"! She's cured!
>>chaim
>Cured? You think being a dyke is a disease? Or being gay in general is a disease? Personally I think gay people are the nicest, friendliest group of people I've ever encountered. Don't misjudge 'em for being different. Although if Marian really wants to go bi, I shan't object. Har.
sic 'em Marian.
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:08:17 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
Joe Francia wrote:
>If you think that's bad, I have to shout 1's and 0's into the phone just to communicate with y'all....
Good one Joe. But, uh, how do you handle the handshake? Oh, right, you wave the phone up and down a couple of times.
- --Ralf
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:04:24 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
BCR wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Earle wrote:
>>>Maybe I've been dropping too much personal soap opera lately,
>>Or perhaps you've been dropping too much acid lately and we all actually post at least 300 messages an hour and you don't notice.
>And I even forgot that I took the acid. Pretty bad addiction I have.
Try Midol.
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:23:01 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: [SubG]What she really thinks
Ol' wifey is going to the farm for a week to prepare the homestead for a family reunion. So what has she been doing to prepare for her little get-away?
She's taped little notes around the house. On the plant -- "Hey bub, please water us". On the fish tank -- "Please feed us. Remember to close lid"
Errk. Smile and nod. Maintain eye contact. Back up slowly.
By the by and apropo (cool word) of our usual bleatings -- aside to Brian: We'll get a new crop of lystoids to shred in the fall once school starts. -- end aside. Heretic and spawn are rolling into town today for a couple of days. If this is the last post from me it means that my liver has exploded.
- --Ralf
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:34:00 +0100
From: Marian Zeletz <marianz@netropolis.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] sexual athletes only
>>Marian confessed:
>>>[nusked]
>>Hallelu-"bob"! She's cured!
>> chaim
>Cured? You think being a dyke is a disease? Or being gay in general is a disease? Personally I think gay people are the nicest, friendliest group of people I've ever encountered. Don't misjudge 'em for being different. Although if Marian really wants to go bi, I shan't object. Har.
>Earle
>My rant for the month is now done.
ExCUSE me? Have I EVER said I was a dyke? I'm just not in the habit of staring at men's crotches instead of their eyes or faces. I want Brian to stop making me do that, that's all! It's ALL HIS FAULT!
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 08:14:35 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
Balmy Crispy Rottage wrote:
> If this kind of thinking just pisses you off, don't read Microserfs by Douglas Coupland, because i think that's what put me in this funk.
I readdat. His previous book was better though. What was that? Generation X I guess...?
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 07:59:21 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Independence....
I am gone for three days:
[brian stuff nusked]
Whats all this about Brian killing off half of hollywood in drag, being behind the Kennedy AND the Roswell conspiracies, and keeping a harem of 5-year-old girls in his basement?
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:45:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Sammy Ominsky <sambo@charm.net>
Subject: Re: [SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix
BCR:
> Well, the scandal was that everyone, including the jury on the case, beleived that he should be allowed to stay out of jail so he could work and make money so his girlfriend didn't have to support the baby on her own. Now he's got like a five or ten year sentence.
Actually, he got two years probation and he's not allowed to see her.
He has to finish his G.E.D. (High school equiv.).
As far as I can tell, the two years is to let her reach 18. Fucking rediculous to deprive a baby of its father for the sake of "law and order".
- ---sambo
pisses me off
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 08:09:31 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] once upon a time
some foriegn guy wrote:
<excerpt>That was the real Xoe. She came over my house yesterday to celebrate our recent independence from the British, and wanted to respond to all of the things said about her in the list. The reason her return address was from the Netherlands, is because that's my return address. There is a free e-mail/web place (much like GeoCities) in Holland called De Digitale Staat on which I have an account, which is a good place to have one if you can read Dutch (which I can to some degree). I hope you can believe me.....
</excerpt>
I would believe ya except you foriegn people have such goofy words
for everything.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 8:46:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land <gerscha@pscts.com> Subject: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
I also picked up Halo 11 (and it saddens me Xoe was probably the only one on the list who would know what that is.) I kicks ass. Has a remix by Orb on it. I've groooooooooooved on it as much as Fixed, which is saying something. I got the old US3 album toooo.
I think that there might be others into NIN.
Alison
gimme a break
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:39:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Bennett <bennett@hpl.umces.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
> Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo only posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have anything to talk about.
Maybe that's why everyone else left.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:53:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Independence....
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>I am gone for three days:
>[brian stuff nusked]
>Whats all this about Brian killing off half of hollywood in drag, being behind the Kennedy AND the Roswell conspiracies, and keeping a harem of 5-year-old girls in his basement?
The thing about this list that I love the most is that, when I die, the LEGEND will live ON!
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>Balmy Crispy Rottage wrote:
>> If this kind of thinking just pisses you off, don't read Microserfs by Douglas Coupland, because i think that's what put me in this funk.
>I readdat. His previous book was better though. What was that? Generation X I guess...?
I think if I read another book by this guy it would probably just piss me off. Maybe I'll read it in a year or so. I'm reading The Maltese Falcon now, great book.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 15:58:06 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
At 01:39 PM 7/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
>> Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo only posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have anything to talk about.
>Maybe that's why everyone else left.
Watched re-runs of Ab Fab last night. I love that show.
Review of a trip to the riviera to be placed in a british national magazine: "...you can't write "We sat around eating free french crap then vomited..."
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land wrote:
>I also picked up Halo 11 (and it saddens me Xoe was probably the only one on the list who would know what that is.) I kicks ass. Has a remix by Orb on it. I've groooooooooooved on it as much as Fixed, which is saying something. I got the old US3 album toooo.
>I think that there might be others into NIN.
I forget about you because you never post. As usual, I can't be objective. Just because I check me email 3-5 times a day doesn't mean everyone else does.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:05:17 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
Eric "Rice-A-Roni" Bennett wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>>ladies and gentlemen I was born a complete idiot. [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk]
>>Now I am disabled and penniless you think your life sucks- Fuck you
>Thank you! It always makes me feel better when I see someone as pathetic as you. Have an even more shitty day!
I know. I wish I could take credit for his situation. No I don't. I couldn't care less. I just wanted to show off the new sig that I stole, er, borrowed... uh, am using.
"Brain and brain, what is brain?!"
-Star Trek, "Spock's Brain"
- -Tim
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:14:07 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Independence....
>Only if you're American. Bear in mind that in England one may smoke and
one
>may have sex legally at 16 and one may drink legally at 18. Have fun waiting a few extra years you guys.
Ditto in Canada. And it's legal to have sex here at 14....they just changed it recently from 16. Smoking is 18, and so's drinking. If a girl is pregnant, she can get married at 12 without permission.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:25:09 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix
>>Actually, I believe that it is 18 in the US. Wasn't there just
a
>>big scandal about this 18 year old kid who got a sixteen year old
>Subject: [SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix Date: Saturday, July 05, 1997 5:57 PM
>pregnent? As I understand the story, he was totally committed to her and
>>got a job to be able to support the child but they threw him in jail
for
>>rape.
They have a law here in Canada, now , that a man cannot be charged with statutory rape if the girl has a sexual "history" that's somewhat questionable. I think it's fair... If he seduces a virgin that's one thing, if he's just getting in on the used goods, that's a whole other ball of wax.
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:12:37 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
At 04:05 PM 7/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Eric "Rice-A-Roni" Bennett wrote:
>>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>>>ladies and gentlemen I was born a complete idiot. [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk]
>>>Now I am disabled and penniless you think your life sucks- Fuck you
>>Thank you! It always makes me feel better when I see someone as pathetic as you. Have an even more shitty day!
>I know. I wish I could take credit for his situation. No I don't. I couldn't care less. I just wanted to show off the new sig that I stole, er, borrowed... uh, am using.
Shit. That was the wrong one. This is the one I wanted to test.
"Brain and brain, what is brain?!"
-Star Trek, "Spock's Brain"
- -Tim
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:22:34 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
At 04:12 PM 7/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
>At 04:05 PM 7/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>Eric "Rice-A-Roni" Bennett wrote:
>>>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>>>>ladies and gentlemen I was born a complete idiot. [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk] [nusk]
>>>>Now I am disabled and penniless you think your life sucks- Fuck you
>>>Thank you! It always makes me feel better when I see someone as pathetic as you. Have an even more shitty day!
>>I know. I wish I could take credit for his situation. No I don't. I couldn't care less. I just wanted to show off the new sig that I stole, er, borrowed... uh, am using.
>Shit. That was the wrong one. This is the one I wanted to test.
I love my eudora mail client.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 01:58:39 +0100
From: Earle <p5ypher@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] sexual athletes only
>ExCUSE me? Have I EVER said I was a dyke? I'm just not in the habit of staring at men's crotches instead of their eyes or faces. I want Brian to stop making me do that, that's all! It's ALL HIS FAULT!
I must beg your pardon. I obviously have you confused with someone else.
Earle
I will go and climb into my little hole in the ground now.
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 20:57:52 -0400
From: "Rev. Dr. Mario" <revmario@bridge.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Marian Zeletz wrote:
>Could you please define "mindfuck" book for me? That genre was never discussed in any of my English lit. seminars.
I propose that a mindfuck involves allowing you to get comfortable with a particular perception & then proving the opposite true.
Wow!! As I reread that sentence I'm stunned by how inadequate it is. I've been reading Godel Escher Bach for about 8 years now. I consider that a hardcore mindfuck. I meant to pick up "Microserfs" today because of Brian's glowing review but my wife tricked me into going to Target instead & I bought a Leatherman instead. - --
Rev. Dr. Mario (a little addled)
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:03:20 -0400
From: "Rev. Dr. Mario" <revmario@bridge.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Eric Bennett wrote:
>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
>>Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo only posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have anything to talk about.
>Maybe that's why everyone else left.
That's why I left. Don't know when I'm coming back neither. - --
Rev. Dr. Mario
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:50:57 +1000
From: Matthew Spong <elric@real.com.au>
Subject: Re. [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
> I feel that I am so unique that everyone else is so far away, like the amount that I am different is like a dimension of closeness, and that I am infinitely far away from everyone. And whenever I find that some one has something in common with me, its just infinity minus one.
BCR, thing's won't get better until you are in your late 20s. This may seem like a long time. But it takes that long for you to simultaneously maintain a discreet personality that can function in isolation, AND construct a working persona loaded with all the behaviours necessary to hack the raft. Practice smiling. Do it until laugh lines form. Study your face in the mirror. Read textbooks on psychology and hypnotism. 90% of human behaviour towards you is moderated by your appearance and body language. Politicians dye their hair silver. Male gorillas don't need to. Symetrical faces are more attractive. Supermodels are very tall. How much do you move your head when you talk? When someone asks you a question, do you give them the best answer you can, or tell them what they want to hear? Can you control your vocabulary? Do you argue with taxi drivers? Hatred will give you the strength you need to accomplish these things. Don't get bitter. No matter how thick your mask grows someone someday will see through it and smile. She will psmell your pstench and find it pleasing. The difference between us are small in some ways. Just a few programs, each compiled again and again for different platforms. The light-lag between our real selves and the telepresent robots we clumsily drive around this stale world is large, but practice makes it easier. just don't bloody chuck out the happy moments because they aren't final enough.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 00:27:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Mark Mueller <mmueller@it.sait.ab.ca> Subject: [SubG] Re: Subgenius Digest V6 #879
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Subgenius Digest wrote:
> I feel that I am so unique that everyone else is so far away, like the amount that I am different is like a dimension of closeness, and that I am infinitely far away from everyone. And whenever I find that some one has something in common with me, its just infinity minus one.
Sometimes when I get in moods like this I try and think "Shit! I'm a white male in a country with one of the highest standards of living in the world! (Canada, that is, not US)." Then I think of all the people born into situations where they're oppressed and shat upon continually and I laugh maliciously. It doesn't always work but now and then it works as a pick-me-up.
> If this kind of thinking just pisses you off, don't read Microserfs by Douglas Coupland, because i think that's what put me in this funk.
Take a look at Generation Echh. I can't remember the authors but it's a couple guys and they trash Douglas Coupland and all other things Gen X with a gleeful amount of spite, malice, and intelligence. And as an added bonus Evan Dorkin does little comic strips before every chapter!!
- --
Mark Mueller
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,
but too early to shoot the bastards."
- Claire Wolfe
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 02:11:43 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
Tim Oneil wrote:
>Balmy Crispy Rottage wrote:
>>If this kind of thinking just pisses you off, don't read Microserfs by Douglas Coupland, because i think that's what put me in this funk.
>I readdat. His previous book was better though. What was that? Generation X I guess...?
I suck. I deleted what I should've sent. Yeah, dot dot dot X is a prescribed text now in one of the english classes.
I'm drunk. Wha hoo.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 01:57:38 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: [SubG]I was wrong.
It has been eating at me. You are not banal.
- --Ralf
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 02:48:17 -0400
From: Ralf MacGrady <an467@freenet.carleton.ca> Subject: Re: [SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix
Treasure wrote:
>They have a law here in Canada, now , that a man cannot be charged with statutory rape if the girl has a sexual "history" that's somewhat questionable. I think it's fair... If he seduces a virgin that's one thing, if he's just getting in on the used goods, that's a whole other ball of wax.
Well. I do not believe that. The sanctity of personhood is paramount. I need to smoke a joint. Why? Fuck you. You and I are the law. We create it every day. You. Me. If law is just -- it will see through the smoke. Lies play. Shit. Confused. I don't care Treasure. There is no confusion with right and wrong. You know to grab that which will protect you. For now.
Shaddap! I tell myself. I should be sleeping. Should be sleeping. Health! Health! Scream it! Easy words to hide my fear. Hate. Damnation. - ---
The ultimate and final terror is not to make sense. To anyone. Ever. (scratch me! draw blood!)
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In simple ways. A breath perhaps. The way a breeze plays with hair. An acknowledgement.
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Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
[SubG] some more useless info
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Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" [SubG] Bye xoe.
Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush [SubG]I was wrong.
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Re: [SubG] Independence....
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Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?" Re: [SubG] Bye xoe.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:23:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Dan Kinney wrote:
>In day-to-day, living-on-the-planet sort of terms, terminal uniqueness isn't a whole lot of fun and doesn't, generally, attract alot of fans. In my experience, anyway. My sense of seperateness makes it difficult to deal with people I am not close to, and of course being self-absorbed doesn't invite closeness. That's a fairly small-time problem, though.
Yup, you're right. That's how it is. I think the thing that broke me is the fact that my roommate beleives, REALLY beleives that the things that he does that use poewer don't really, and that the things that I do that use power account for 100% of the bill.
>A larger fuckup, in my life, is that when I do become close to people - and I do - the intensity can be pretty burdensome all around. The three times I've been terrifyingly in love, which included a two year marrige, it seems to me now that I was a script writer desperately putting together the Biggest Movie Ever Filmed. It made for some of the most deeply touching and movingly beautiful periods I've ever had - I found it impossible to believe other human beings ever really had hit the spaces I was in. But I have to wonder sometimes if the objects of my love or whatever were really who I felt they were, or just neccasary actors in my script. Rather nasty thought, that.
Yeah, I know that feeling too. You get to the point where you're so tired of your whole life being you you you, you need another person to hold some of it for you, but its such a burden on them. Then your love stifles them. And you love for love's sake. Its kinda sad... Because I realize that I am like that, I've decided that if I ever get in a serious relationship with a girl, I will have to not love her.
>Now that I'm on the couch, though, Herr Doktor, I have to wonder why I've never had a real sense of satifaction with myself, or, really, anyone else. Aside from the fact that everything sucks, I mean.
I doubt if anyone who is basically alone can every be satisfied. You need poisitive reinforcement like a kindergardener playing with blocks. You need somene who loves you or at least appreciates you to say, "Honey, you work so hard." Or something like that every now and then.
>But I also have a huge fear of NOT being Unique, of losing this existential pain. Some of it's because I'm a snob and Not Like You. But I think its mostly that I'm afraid to give up my pain. If it wasn't there, I wouldn't be here anymore. I'd be someone else.
Yeah. Well, you can't change outta "I hate you" mode without losing everything. It means that everything you've beleived in your life was just a joke, just the snobbishness, and that it never really meant anything to you. Its like saying your whole life has been a crutch. And also, If you change, you hange into what? Those yuppie tennis players in lexuses? Or a cranky but wise hermit like Dave? A transvestite? Where can you go? You can't leave yourself...
>Reading through what i just wrote, I picked up the subtext of me being on A Noble Mission. It's like, I can't fucking HELP myself. I think the only way for me to be on a Noble mission is too stop thinking I'm so fucking Unique and Noble. But I don't know how, or I'm afraid, or something.
Yeah, the mission is part of us. Its the idea that keeps us alive. That seed in our neural net somewhere that when certain instructions pass by they get altered. When you do something, it can't just be "I work at my job so I can get money to buy a house get married and raise 2.46 kids." That's just not goo enough. You think, "That can't be all that there is, and i'm not going to sell myself short just because other people think it is."
>So thanks for starting me off on that horrible confession, there, Brian ol' buddy. Jeez, and it's not even raining here in self-satified Connecticut.
Its okay. I gotcha. Its kinda funny, though, being on the list with you and Tim and Kirby. Because i always sorta assume that old people just are these robots, that they don't have anything inside. Because my parents and whole family are like that. My Mom used to get so upset with me and she would cry, and I would just be thinking, "What the hell is wrong with her. Get over it." because it was so fake. My Dad only ever worries about money. Its understandbale because he's had like ten jobs since I've been born. And of course going to grade school instilled in me a hatred of teachers and their ilk.
Kinda funny. I just woke up from a dream where my old American history teacher from High School was my history teacher in college. Coach hennings took my lunch away from me and swapped it for his, then he changed into a brown leisure suit and did the Electric Slide. Everybody in the class screamed and waved their arms.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:05:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Marian Zeletz wrote:
>Could you please define "mindfuck" book for me? That genre was never discussed in any of my English lit. seminars.
The kind of book the shakes you up, and makes you recoonsider a large number of your preconceived notions or otherwise makes you think until it hurts. Like Thee Illuminatus Trilogy of Straanger in a Strange Land, The book of the SubGenius, etc. Those were oones for me, anyway. Your mileage may vary.
>> Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo only posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have anything to talk about.
>You know what's scaring me, Brian? I think your brain's infiltrating mine.
Hmm. What's my brain doing in Texas? Just throw it down the garbage disposal next time you see it.
>Lately when I'm watching videos, or movies, I catch myself just staring at some of the men's crotches and trying to figure out how big their penises are. It's much easier to tell something about their penis if they're wearing pants with a nice soft drapable fabric. Tight pants or jeans are OK, but you only get the general bulge effect, you can't really pick out any details.
I can see why you think my brain is infiltrating you. Don't you just wish they'd all wear kilts?
>I find myself thinking about licking various parts of their bodies, like starting at the arch in the foot and traveling up the inner thigh, and so on. I find myself wishing I could grab a nice comfortable handful of sweet sweet guy butt.
I actually don't think about that soorta stuff until the movie's over, andless the girl is so spellbinding she makes me forget. And that's noot the usual case.
>NO BRIAN, DON'T DO THAT!!! Not until you get your brain out mine! Do you want me to be posting obscene lustful things about men on this list every other minute? Do you want me to have !!!!!!!!!!!, or ||||||||||||||| keys that stick? Or perhaps \\\\\\\\\\\\\\, /////////////////, (((((((((((((((((, ))))))))))))))))), or llllllllllllllllllll keys sticking? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT????? All of those keys COULD be sticking if you don't stick ((((((((((damn--see?))))))))))) around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geez, Marain, I wasn't seriously going to kill myself... It was just a joke. I'm waiting for X-Day.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:18:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Earle wrote:
>>its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have
>I was just being picky about the typos.
I intentionally misspelled Ralf, and What's wrong with Hil?
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Dr. Jeremy D. Burns wrote:
>At 11:17 PM 7/5/1997 -0400, bcr wrote:
>> I got sme CDs today. It worked out well. I brought like eight or s CDs I never listen tooooooooooooooooo to the used cd place, made off with three cds and ten bucks. I got the Jamirooooquai CD, and it is
>Stevie Wonder. An excellent replica, but Stevie Wonder nonetheless. I dig it.
I've heard Stevie Wonder and i never really liked it.
>I think only old people listen to metal now, or so it would appear.
My roommate went to Ozfest the other day, and he's like 19. I imagine most of the people there were that age range. Unless you mean metal as Poison and Motley Crew or whatever.
>> I also picked up Halo 11 (and it saddens me Xoe was probably the only one on the list who would know what that is.) I kicks ass. Has a remix by Orb on it. I've groooooooooooved on it as much as Fixed, which is saying something. I got the old US3 album toooo.
>Whatever.
Yeah, I forget everything right after it happens. I have to work on that.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:33:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Hal Phillips wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with strongly implying a word you're not allowed to type, like D-to-the-I-to-the-T-to-the-T-to-the-O?
Please do. Experimnet with words. Maybe when you're foty you'll turn into William S. Burroughs.
> But in any case... go to a CD shop. Buy SEASICK by Imperial Teen, as fast as you possibly can. Listen to it six times in a row.
I'll check it out. My music is TOOL. TOOL's Aenima reflects everything I said musically.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:06:01 +0200
From: Erich.Wehmeyer@SANLAM.CO.ZA
Subject: [SubG] some more useless info
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>I readdat. His previous book was better though. What was that? Generation X I guess...?
Shampoo Planet?
and then he also said :
>Watched re-runs of Ab Fab last night. I love that show.
Don't know if they have it there yet, but kill to see the last 2 episodes (which i think is ALL of series 3 - they just decided to go out on a high)
i SWEAR it was written on drugs
(ok ok - no sarcy questions of "how did they get it right to write so small?")
=
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 05:23:50 -0400
From: Hal Phillips <bocko@webspan.net>
Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
Riot Nrrrd wrote:
>I'll check it out. My music is TOOL. TOOL's Aenima reflects everything I said musically.
Imperial Teen's SEASICK does so better. You won't even notice it.
- --
- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hal Phillips
Will do things for money.
Home Page: http://www.microsoft.com
Birthday Countdown: 1 BOOM!
Obligatory Signature Quote on hiatus.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:37:26 +0100
From: Earle <p5ypher@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
>>I was just being picky about the typos.
> I intentionally misspelled Ralf, and What's wrong with Hil?
I thought you meant Hal. Unless you were referring to the eminent Hilary Franks, a.k.a. the Rev. Heretic.
"Your rules are really starting to annoy me." - Snake Plissken
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 08:19:11 -0400
From: Rabbi Kleef <rmlevin228@earthlink.net> Subject: [SubG] Bye xoe.
I am moving to nj soon. I shall return. I don't know if i will be able to e-mail in the next month or so.
- -Kleef
AKA -Che
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 08:22:34 -0400
From: Rabbi Kleef <rmlevin228@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] I know, lets all work ourselves to death
BCR wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 Ayhnum1@aol.com wrote:
>>you think your life sucks- Fuck you
>Stop bitching asshole. You think that's a bad story? I'm still using a 486 for a computer, and my student loans and scholarships aren't enough for me to buy the 233 Mhz Pentium II I want. So go bitch to someone who cares.
>'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHA
hic
- -kleef
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 07:16:08 -0500
From: "Dr. Jeremy D. Burns" <jburns@1starnet.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
At 10:21 AM 7/7/1997 -0400, bcr wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Dr. Jeremy D. Burns wrote:
>>I think only old people listen to metal now, or so it would appear.
> My roommate went to Ozfest the other day, and he's like 19. I imagine most of the people there were that age range. Unless you mean metal as Poison and Motley Crew or whatever.
It's all pretty much the same to me. I get a big kick out of the Pantera thing, for 'zample, 'cause everybody thinks of them as such a "heavy" band now, but during those wacky days of metal, they were a hair-and-makeup band in Dallas, with a different singer, doing songs like "Come On Eyes" and other Ratt-like material. Then they got Phil and sounded like Metallica for awhile, releasing the unforgettable "Power Metal" album (still my fave of theirs), featuring guitarist "Dimebag" (nee Diamond) Darryl's debut vocal turn on the epic tune "Pussy Tight". In any case, quite a difference from what they're doing now.
Ozzy is everyone's spiritual crazed uncle. Gotta love him. Who else played at this Ozfest? Iron Maiden? Krokus? the Scorps? Whitesnake?
jburns@1starnet.com
"Dammit, we're not gods, Jim...we're scientists!"
http://www.720.org/
...i feel more like i do now than i did before...
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 8:33:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land <gerscha@pscts.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land wrote:
>I also picked up Halo 11 (and it saddens me Xoe was probably the only one on the list who would know what that is.) I kicks ass. Has a remix by Orb on it. I've groooooooooooved on it as much as Fixed, which is saying something. I got the old US3 album toooo.
>I think that there might be others into NIN.
I forget about you because you never post. As usual, I can't be objective. Just because I check me email 3-5 times a day doesn't mean everyone else does.
This is done through work, so I only post M-F 8-5. I need to get a bigger computer somehow.
Alison
should I really be insulted? no
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 9:02:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land <gerscha@pscts.com> Subject: [SubG]I was wrong.
Ralf
It has been eating at me. You are not banal. ALison
Who?
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:18:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Sammy Ominsky <sambo@charm.net>
Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
The Good(?) Dr. Mario:
>that a hardcore mindfuck. I meant to pick up "Microserfs" today because of Brian's glowing review but my wife tricked me into going to Target instead & I bought a Leatherman instead.
An excellent chioce. I've enjoyed mine for years. You'll be shocked and amazed at how often you find yourself reaching for it.
If I may suggest: lightly batter the hinges with a medium sized hammer (or egg yolks and bread crumbs). It will make it literally fall open in your hand when you remove the tool from its sheath. (Take it easy on the battering, I understand you have a minor weight problem) Seriously, just tap it lightly, not on the little round hinge bolt itself, but on the flat part. Like this:
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|O||O| <-tap on this side
| || | (on the end with the pliers)
| || |
- ---sambo
be happy, your wife did you a favor
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:22:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: Re. [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Matthew Spong wrote:
>like a long time. But it takes that long for you to simultaneously maintain a discreet personality that can function in isolation, AND construct a working persona loaded with all the behaviours necessary to hack the raft.
I already have my two personalities. But I'm just not interested enough in other people to maek the social personality surface. The anti-social self absorbed personality is the dominant one.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:23:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>At 01:39 PM 7/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
>>> Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo only posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and Tim, and we just don't have anything to talk about.
>>Maybe that's why everyone else left.
>Watched re-runs of Ab Fab last night. I love that show.
Pooh!
>Review of a trip to the riviera to be placed in a british national magazine: "...you can't write "We sat around eating free french crap then vomited..."
What's the riviera? I guess a French River?
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:24:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Earle wrote:
>>>I was just being picky about the typos.
>> I intentionally misspelled Ralf, and What's wrong with Hil?
>I thought you meant Hal. Unless you were referring to the eminent Hilary Franks, a.k.a. the Rev. Heretic.
Yeah, I meant Mr. heretic.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:25:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Bye xoe.
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Rabbi Kleef wrote:
>I am moving to nj soon. I shall return. I don't know if i will be able to e-mail in the next month or so.
Ever get that feeling that all the women in your life are leaving you? Wah wah wah...
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:26:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Independence....
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Treasure wrote:
>Ditto in Canada. And it's legal to have sex here at 14....they just
I'm moving.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Dr. Jeremy D. Burns wrote:
>Ozzy is everyone's spiritual crazed uncle. Gotta love him. Who else played at this Ozfest? Iron Maiden? Krokus? the Scorps? Whitesnake?
I don't remember all the bands. I'm not too into the genre so I'm not familiar enough to remember the names. I know Fear Factory was there because Rob was excited to see them, plus Ozzy did his solo thing and Then Black Sabbath did it with ozzy.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land wrote:
>This is done through work, so I only post M-F 8-5. I need to get a bigger computer somehow.
Well, at least we still have one female left. I love it: Bigger computer, not better or newer.
>Alison
>should I really be insulted? no
I wasn't trying to insult you.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:47:41 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Re: #100Independence....pix
>Well. I do not believe that. The sanctity of personhood is paramount. I need to smoke a joint. Why? Fuck you. You and I are the law. We create it every day. You. Me. If law is just -- it will see through the smoke. Lies play. Shit. Confused. I don't care Treasure. There is no confusion with right and wrong. You know to grab that which will protect you. For now.
Shut yer cakehole man....preferably with a Midol. I was simply stating the law.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:39:54 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
>> Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo
only
>>posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and
Tim,
>>and we just don't have anything to talk about.
I resent being left out.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:59:37 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Bye xoe.
Brian laments:
> Ever get that feeling that all the women in your life are leaving you? Wah wah wah...
Well......for whatever it's worth <obviously not much>, I'm still here...
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:56:50 +0100
From: Marian Zeletz <marianz@netropolis.net> Subject: Re: [SubG] Bye xoe.
>Brian laments:
>> Ever get that feeling that all the women in your life are leaving you? Wah wah wah...
>Well......for whatever it's worth <obviously not much>, I'm still here...
Ahem. I'm still here. To reassure you, I will now post parts of some interesting little informationoids I found in the news this morning:
VATICAN EXAMINES ISSUES OF LIFE ON MARS
[nusk]
. . . -- if Martians exist, do they descend from Adam and Eve and are they stained with original sin?
If not, does this mean they are born into a state of grace and do not need Christ's forgiveness to redeem their souls?
These are among the "primordial questions" the Rev. Gino Concetti . . . has been asking since the Mars Pathfinder probe unleashed its robot . . .
"Mars and other planets could be inhabited by living beings and if so, this would in no way go counter to Catholic theology," Concetti said. "God might have created worlds similar to, or different from, Earth and inhabited by creatures with intelligence."
Concetti, a Franciscan, recalled Catholic teaching that "Christ became man out of love of God and for his greater glorification."
But "Christ could have manifested himself in ways other than the suffering on the cross to other intelligent beings who do not know original sin," he said.
THIS is how intelligent beings who are stained with original sin behave:
SINGER TO MISS SHOW
Iggy Pop may have to rethink whether to trust his fans. Pop . . . won't be on stage in Oklahoma city today after he dis- located his shoulder during a show last month. Pop hurt him- self when he dived from the stage of the Polaris Ampitheatre in Columbus, Ohio, and the crowd failed to catch him.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:22:51 -0500
From: "Dr. Jeremy D. Burns" <jburns@1starnet.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
At 11:23 AM 7/8/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>>At 01:39 PM 7/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
>>Review of a trip to the riviera to be placed in a british national magazine: "...you can't write "We sat around eating free french crap then vomited..."
> What's the riviera? I guess a French River?
Geraldo.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:27:45 -0500
From: "Dr. Jeremy D. Burns" <jburns@1starnet.com> Subject: Re: [SubG]I was wrong.
At 09:02 AM 7/8/1997 -0500, magnetic patterns were altered thusly:
>Ralf
>It has been eating at me. You are not banal. ALison
>Who?
"you are not banal,
I am here with you,
something something cabbages,
doot doot doo dah doo...
hEEE-hee! aoaw! sha-moan...."
- --Michael Jackson, "You Are Not Banal"
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 13:38:57 -0400
From: Dan Kinney <amscray@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Rainy Day, Dream Away
Riot Nrrrd wrote:
>Its kinda sad... Because I realize that I am like that, I've decided that if I ever get in a serious relationship with a girl, I will have to not love her.
Actually, the problem is the implication of ownership inherent in the concept of "love". I "love" you... therefore you must do this and this and be this and that. So "love" becomes an alliance of sorts with rules, expectations, boundaries... which is fine as far as it goes, I guess. But once this partnership is defined it becomes static at some point, and an object of decaying inertia. For me, anyway. Because for me, anything defined is boring. And this doesn't just hold true for interpersonal sort of stuff; you can rachet it up as high as you want and it still holds true. "Bob", of course, doesn't bore me because I can't kill the slippery fucker.
>I doubt if anyone who is basically alone can every be satisfied. You need poisitive reinforcement like a kindergardener playing with blocks. You need somene who loves you or at least appreciates you to say, "Honey, you work so hard." Or something like that every now and then.
We're ALL "basically alone", it comes with the territory, and is the essential paradox of being a meat puppet. And within our single units is not one simple entity, but millions - or the possiblity of millions. Except for Treasure, of course.
>>But I also have a huge fear of NOT being Unique, of losing this existential pain. Some of it's because I'm a snob and Not Like You. But I think its mostly that I'm afraid to give up my pain. If it wasn't there, I wouldn't be here anymore. I'd be someone else.
>Yeah. Well, you can't change outta "I hate you" mode without losing everything. It means that everything you've beleived in your life was just a joke, just the snobbishness, and that it never really meant anything to you. Its like saying your whole life has been a crutch.
>And also, If you change, you hange into what? Those yuppie tennis players in lexuses? Or a cranky but wise hermit like Dave? A transvestite? Where can you go? You can't leave yourself...
Yeah, I think you can. It's a question of wanting to badly enough, and being willing to do the work. Be that on a mountaintop, doing rescue work in war zones, or flipping burgers.
More to the point, I don't think anyone changes unless they have to, for whatever reason - usually because where they are is too painful. There's a line in some work of Salinger's that I really love, once you get past the Christian context: "The spiritual life is what God sics (as in sicing a dog) on those who accuse Him of createing an ugly world."
>Because i always sorta assume that old people just are these robots, that they don't have anything inside. Because my parents and whole family are like that.
This is entirely correct. Most people of whatever age are robots. Which in no way devalues them as people; it just means they're robots.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 13:51:20 -0400
From: Dan Kinney <amscray@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Dr. Jeremy D. Burns wrote:
>At 11:23 AM 7/8/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>>On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>>>At 01:39 PM 7/7/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
>>>Review of a trip to the riviera to be placed in a british national magazine: "...you can't write "We sat around eating free french crap then vomited..."
>>What's the riviera? I guess a French River?
>Geraldo.
It's where they rivet up the eras before they put them in the Time Mainframe and make all us fuckers live through them.
Moral Beacon
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:33:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Treasure wrote:
>>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, BCR wrote:
>>> Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo
>only
>>>posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf, Hil, and
>Tim,
>>>and we just don't have anything to talk about.
>I resent being left out.
You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:40:02 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] some more useless info
you wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>>I readdat. His previous book was better though. What was that? Generation X I guess...?
>Shampoo Planet?
No, I think the title actually had "Gen.x" in the title, if that wasn't the actual whole name.
>and then he also said :
>>Watched re-runs of Ab Fab last night. I love that show.
>Don't know if they have it there yet, but kill to see the last 2 episodes (which i think is ALL of series 3 - they just decided to go out on a high)
>i SWEAR it was written on drugs
Yeah, they showed it when it was released on an american cable channel. I have every epi on tape now. Every last one. I actually have copies of everything I have ever watched Jennifer Saunders do, including her Saunders & French shows, and a couple of guest spots on random english shows, and I even taped the two appearances Joanna Lumley made on "Are you Being Served". (Lumley is Saunders' stick thin cigarette puffing pal on Ab Fab). I don't know why I have everything ever committed to video by these two. Its not like I'm in love with them or something... is it?
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:49:56 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Bye xoe.
At 08:19 AM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I am moving to nj soon. I shall return. I don't know if i will be able to e-mail in the next month or so.
>-Kleef
>AKA -Che
Che? As in Che Gueivarra? The leader of the communist revolution in Guatemala? I thought you were killed by the Guatemalan Police in the late 60's wherein they also cut off your hands as proof of your demise! Wow!! Let me shake you hand!!! Oh, sorry...
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:52:06 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
you wrote:
>Ozzy is everyone's spiritual crazed uncle. Gotta love him. Who else played at this Ozfest? Iron Maiden? Krokus? the Scorps? Whitesnake?
Iron Maiden??? Oh man... I must have seen them like 5 times in the 80's. Are they still around? They HAVE to be coughin' up a little dust now... those guys were old then...
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:10:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] some more useless info
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>No, I think the title actually had "Gen.x" in the title, if that wasn't the actual whole name.
The bio on the back of microserfs says Coupland wrote Generation X, Shampoo PLanet, and life After God.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:06:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land <gerscha@pscts.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Dr. Jeremy D. Burns wrote:
>Ozzy is everyone's spiritual crazed uncle. Gotta love him. Who else played at this Ozfest? Iron Maiden? Krokus? the Scorps? Whitesnake?
Brian
I know Fear Factory was there
because Rob was excited to see them, plus Ozzy did his solo thing and Then Black Sabbath did it with ozzy.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
What kind of show was this? I'm sorry I didn't go.
Alison
men doing each other huh?
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:49:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land <gerscha@pscts.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land wrote:
>This is done through work, so I only post M-F 8-5. I need to get a bigger computer somehow.
Well, at least we still have one female left. I love it: Bigger computer, not better or newer.
>Alison
>should I really be insulted? no
I wasn't trying to insult you.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
Bigger is generally better, but it's what you do with it that counts. Treasure is still around? I haven't gotten the official word from anyone.
Alison
poopah I'm over 21
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: [SubG] q: If you had to guess a topic, what would it be?
a: Women
I watched that movie One Fine Day yesterday (I love my cable descrambler, but my roommate is already married to it). I have realized that Michelle Pfiefer is AWESOME. She has this little girl body with a beautiful, elegants woman's face. I've seen tons of movies with her before, but I was never interested in her. I think it was the fact that she was wearing this tight Dinosaur shirt inside of her suit. It was like she combined everything good about little girls with everything good about "grown ups."
Also, I saw this movie, forget the title, but it has Al Pacino and that Crazy John Something guy. He was just in that Grosse Point Blanke movie, forget his name (<- Not a command). Anywho, Pacino is the Mayor and the other guy is his assistant. It was a decent movie, I didn't fall asleep. But, at one point this girl comes on screen, and I look at her, and I'm thinking, "She's pretty, in a Bridget Fonda kinda way." Then I realize it is Bridget Fonda! She looked so DIFFERENT. It was crazy. I need to go watch point of no return again, star at Bridget Fonda's but.
I like the name Bridget. There was this girl in my 3d art class in High School that was very sexy. She thought I was too old, though. She was only 14, a freshman. And That Bridget lady on MSNBC is pretty good too.
Oh yeah, I saw this better than Halfway Decent movie on USA the other day. It was called the Perfect Crime. Really quite interesting psychological profile/people under stress movie. They'll probably play it again, watch for it. I can't beleive it comes from the same people that make that pathetic La Femme Nikita show. During that movie, there was a commercial for LFN, and the announcer said, "What if you were forced to make love?" "Okay," I thought, "No problem." Then he goes on to say, "And what if you didn't millions of people would die." And I thought, "Well, in that case I might have to think about it. Would I put my own sexual pleasure above the fun of killing millions of people? Tough call."
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:25:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] Jamiroquai, Burgers, and bush
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land wrote:
>What kind of show was this? I'm sorry I didn't go.
It was a metal show. I already posted everything I know about it. It was sorta like Lollapalooza but with all metal bands. The only other thing I know about it is that Rob got heat stroke there.
>Alison
>men doing each other huh?
Yeah.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 12:39:43 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] some more useless info
At 03:10 PM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>>No, I think the title actually had "Gen.x" in the title, if that wasn't the actual whole name.
> The bio on the back of microserfs says Coupland wrote Generation X, Shampoo PLanet, and life After God.
Ok, what was the premise of "Shampoo Planet"?
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:58:31 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Brian schmoozed:
> You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
Sure I do...but when I do, everyone hates me, when I don't, I'm special. I'm confused, but the slack flows thick.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 16:16:47 -0400
From: Dan Kinney <amscray@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Treasure wrote:
>Brian schmoozed:
>>You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
>Sure I do...but when I do, everyone hates me, when I don't, I'm special. I'm confused, but the slack flows thick.
Nobody hates you, Treasure. You're just too perfect. And fun to pick on. And it hasn't seemed to bother you, so I (and I assume others) don't stop.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:32:42 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
>Treasure wrote:
>>Brian schmoozed:
>>>You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
>>Sure I do...but when I do, everyone hates me, when I don't, I'm
special.
>>I'm confused, but the slack flows thick.
>Nobody hates you, Treasure. You're just too perfect. And fun to pick on. And it hasn't seemed to bother you, so I (and I assume others) don't stop.
Hmmm....Makes sense I guess...
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 13:34:14 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
At 04:16 PM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Treasure wrote:
>>Brian schmoozed:
>>>You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
>>Sure I do...but when I do, everyone hates me, when I don't, I'm special. I'm confused, but the slack flows thick.
>Nobody hates you, Treasure. You're just too perfect. And fun to pick on. And it hasn't seemed to bother you, so I (and I assume others) don't stop.
I would go mad however if I ever visited you and your pager went off and a voice said "Dr. Hunt, please call emergency, there is a brain tumor you need to see STAT."
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:18:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land <gerscha@pscts.com> Subject: [SubG] q: If you had to guess a topic, what would it be?
Also, I saw this movie, forget the title, but it has Al Pacino and that Crazy John Something guy. He was just in that Grosse Point Blanke movie, forget his name (<- Not a command). Anywho, Pacino is the Mayor
Oh yeah, I saw this better than Halfway Decent movie on USA the other day. It was called the Perfect Crime. Really quite interesting psychological profile/people under stress movie. They'll probably play it again, watch for it. I can't beleive it comes from the same people that make that pathetic La Femme Nikita show. During that movie, there was a commercial for LFN, and the announcer said, "What if you were forced to make love?" "Okay," I thought, "No problem." Then he goes on to say, "And what if you didn't millions of people would die." And I thought, "Well, in that case I might have to think about it. Would I put my own sexual pleasure above the fun of killing millions of people? Tough call."
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
John Cusak. There is this new show coming out on USA called THE HUNGER. It's about the hunger for power, sex and money. Looks kinda cool. I saw part of an episode last night. This chick Carla is a TV porn chick in a cheap motel. She gets this cat played by "Booger" of Revenge of the Nerds to kill his wife and take her necklace. Which he does, she tricks him to leave the room and takes the necklace and calls the cops on "Booger". She has the necklace on TV with her. Then the thing starts again with some old guy named "Charles". Maybe it's the old man from Treasure's office.
Alison
you would think anyone that evil would go for both sex, death, sex, death then you could get creative throw some dead people in there. Just get crazy.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:16:52 -0600
From: "Treasure" <treasure@virtualcity.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
>I would go mad however if I ever visited you and your pager went off and a voice said "Dr. Hunt, please call emergency, there is a brain tumor you need to see STAT."
That would never happen. It is FAR more likely that someone <like my anal-retentive asshole boss> would be paging to say, "DAMNIT GIRL, get on the phone and CALL me, I wanna BITCH at you!" Typical....
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 14:36:50 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
you wrote:
>That would never happen. It is FAR more likely that someone <like my anal-retentive asshole boss> would be paging to say, "DAMNIT GIRL, get on the phone and CALL me, I wanna BITCH at you!" Typical....
I am increadulous:
"Whats wrong with that????!!?!?!!?"
Just kidding.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 16:48:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land <gerscha@pscts.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Brian schmoozed:
>You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
Sure I do...but when I do, everyone hates me, when I don't, I'm special. I'm confused, but the slack flows thick.
Post when you want to, better to be hated or loved rather then forgotten.
Alison
wiping lonely tear from cheek
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:02:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Treasure wrote:
>Brian schmoozed:
>> You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
>Sure I do...but when I do, everyone hates me, when I don't, I'm special. I'm confused, but the slack flows thick.
We're like a clique. We're like those people (say it pee-oh-pull, like I doo) on the bad sitcom, the high schoolers who pick out a new target every day or week to terroize. "And he hit me with a surprise left." We terrorize and we bleat like sheeps. They don't know why. "Why do you pick at me so?" That is what they say. But we love, and we taste and we feel, also. Just not for anyone else.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:03:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land wrote:
>Post when you want to, better to be hated or loved rather then forgotten.
>Alison
>wiping lonely tear from cheek
I just don't like you because you like leather. So eighties.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:09:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] q: If you had to guess a topic, what would it be?
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Alison Gersch -- Emperor of the Land wrote:
>John Cusak.
Correct, you win the prize, a homecooked meal. You'll have to come to Orlando to get it though.
>There is this new show coming out on USA called THE HUNGER. It's about the hunger for power, sex and money. Looks kinda cool. I saw part of an episode last night.
Did you watch Profit? It was a show on Fox a while ago; only stayed on for like three episodes. It was actually very good. Could have rivaled the X-Files. They kept some stupid vampire show that started at the same time on longer, for some dumbfoundedly reason. It was just a great show.
This guy, Jim Profit (psuedonym) was a business exec who had greed for money and power and everything. Would do anything to get it. But he was no JR. At one point he put a bunch of tacks in his shoe to fake a polygraph test. Byt pressing his feet against the tacks, he could keep his emotional level steady. He also had a nice apartment, but there was a secret door that led to his real bedroom which was a cardboard box. Awesome.
>This chick
>Carla is a TV porn chick in a cheap motel. She gets this cat played by "Booger" of Revenge of the Nerds to kill his wife and take her necklace. Which he does, she tricks him to leave the room and takes the necklace and calls the cops on "Booger". She has the necklace on TV with her. Then the thing starts again with some old guy named "Charles". Maybe it's the old man from Treasure's office.
Booger rocks.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] some more useless info
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>At 03:10 PM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>>>No, I think the title actually had "Gen.x" in the title, if that wasn't the actual whole name.
>> The bio on the back of microserfs says Coupland wrote Generation X, Shampoo PLanet, and life After God.
>Ok, what was the premise of "Shampoo Planet"?
No clue. There weren't synopsises, just names.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 16:20:33 -0700
From: "Tim Oneil" <toneil@visigenic.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] q: If you had to guess a topic, what would it be?
some guy wrote:
> Did you watch Profit? It was a show on Fox a while ago; only stayed on for like three episodes. It was actually very good. Could have rivaled the X-Files. They kept some stupid vampire show that started at the same time on longer, for some dumbfoundedly reason. It was just a great show.
> This guy, Jim Profit (psuedonym) was a business exec who had greed for money and power and everything. Would do anything to get it. But he was no JR. At one point he put a bunch of tacks in his shoe to fake a polygraph test. Byt pressing his feet against the tacks, he could keep his emotional level steady. He also had a nice apartment, but there was a secret door that led to his real bedroom which was a cardboard box. Awesome.
Sounds like a winner to me. I watch ONE (and only ONE) fox show these days. Millenium. This show is simply cool. Frank Black is cool. The whole damn thing is cool cool cool.
'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 20:08:01 -0400
From: Dan Kinney <amscray@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Riot Nrrrd wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Treasure wrote:
>>Brian schmoozed:
>>>You don't post enough, then. But, you're SPECIAL too, Nrs. Treasure Hunt.
>>Sure I do...but when I do, everyone hates me, when I don't, I'm special. I'm confused, but the slack flows thick.
>We're like a clique. We're like those people (say it pee-oh-pull, like I doo) on the bad sitcom, the high schoolers who pick out a new target every day or week to terroize. "And he hit me with a surprise left." We terrorize and we bleat like sheeps. They don't know why. "Why do you pick at me so?" That is what they say. But we love, and we taste and we feel, also. Just not for anyone else.
>'Whatever as I am a little girl.' - Brian Robinson
Actually, the resemblance of this list, recently, to a fairly moronic group of uninspired white kids jerking off is the reason I think so many have left or pulled back from the list. I mean, really. Read the fucking thing.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 21:22:57 -0400
From: Hal Phillips <bocko@webspan.net>
Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Earle wrote:
>I thought you meant Hal. Unless you were referring to the eminent Hilary
>Franks, a.k.a. the Rev. Heretic.
Well, maybe he DID mean Hal. What's so wrong with meaning Hal?
I mean Hal all the time.
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- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hal Phillips
Will do things for money.
Home Page: http://www.microsoft.com
Birthday Countdown: 1 BOOM!
Obligatory Signature Quote on hiatus.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 21:35:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] q: If you had to guess a topic, what would it be?
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Tim Oneil wrote:
>Sounds like a winner to me. I watch ONE (and only ONE) fox show these days. Millenium. This show is simply cool. Frank Black is cool. The whole damn thing is cool cool cool.
I like Millenium pretty well, except for a few just dumb Dumb DUMB episodes, like the one where the girl clones were spontaneously combusting and their "dad" was in an iron lung. Pooh pah. There was one that I really liked, though. I forget what the murderer was, but Frank went out of town, and there was this Forensics chick that helped him with his case. She was Outta this world. I seriously expected them to make her a regular cast member. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOO. That was the last episode of the show I seriously watched.
I'm taping the Craft. Its on Cinemax. I was reading in one issue of Femme Fattale that this B Movie company did a blatant rip off of the Craft, cept with nudity, and the magazine had a feature about the chick that took over Robin Tunney's role. She was snazzy.
'Take me with with you..." - Trent
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 21:58:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Riot Nrrrd <bcr19374@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Hal Phillips wrote:
>Earle wrote:
>>I thought you meant Hal. Unless you were referring to the eminent Hilary
>>Franks, a.k.a. the Rev. Heretic.
> Well, maybe he DID mean Hal. What's so wrong with meaning Hal?
>I mean Hal all the time.
Good boy... Have a Scooby Snack.
'Take me with with you..." - Trent
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 22:56:23 -0500
From: Dave Voorhis <dave@armchair.mb.ca> Subject: Re: [SubG] "Microserfs Mindfuck" or "What the Hell is Wrong Here?"
Dan Kinney, in a rare fit of lucidity, spewed:
>Actually, the resemblance of this list, recently, to a fairly moronic group of uninspired white kids jerking off is the reason I think so many have left or pulled back from the list. I mean, really. Read the fucking thing.
Behold the TRUTH, ye fux, and MARVEL. Despite being a bloody Yank, that Kinney plod MAKES SENSE. LISTEN TO HIM, and BECOME ENLIGHTENED.
So I'm here in Toronto (i.e., the only OTHER city in Canada -- I'll leave y'all to figger out what the OTHER other city is...) 'til Sunday, and having a bit of time, I figgered, just for the SLACK of it, that I'd hook up to the Lyst, and bask in the righteous "Bob"-inspired spewings of The True Internet SubGeniuses. But what do I find INSTEAD? What do *I* find SLURPING up bandwidth on my HOLY SERVER? Do I find The True Internet SubGeniuses who once SPAT FORTH MEGABYTES of PURE SLACK? HELL NO!!! I find that the once-slackful Lyst-denizens whom I'd come to know and JOYOUSLY HATE have been REPLACED by Pink CLONES with the SAME email addresses but INSIDIOUSLY flesh-toned personalities. PINK, I tell you... PPPPPPIIIIIINNNNNNKKKKKK!!!!
You lot sound like the sorts I CROSS the STREET to AVOID. If you're all so "Bob"damned PINK, why don't you talk about what you REALLY want to talk about? Why don't you tell us about your CLOTHING, or your HAIR, or your MAKEUP, or how well your VOLVO IS RUNNING, or what your KIDS ARE DOING IN SCHOOL, or your LAST PTA MEETING, or how NICELY YOUR LAWN IS TURNING OUT THIS YEAR, or how you're feeling so much MORE MOTIVATED after that INSPIRATIONAL SEMINAR at work, or how your GOLF SCORES HAVE IMPROVED since you've begun FOLLOWING THROUGH, or how you're GROWING IN YOUR RELATIONSHIPS, or how you're SO CONCERNED ABOUT RACHEL ON "FRIENDS", or how your INVESTMENTS ARE DOING WELL?
Have you forgotten The One True Way? Have you forgotten SLACK? Your petty self-pitying slackless babblings merely PROVE that your Yeti-selves are SHRIVELED up and DYING within your PUTRESCENT PINK POD-BODIES. FREE YOUR YETI-SELVES!!! FREE THEM!!! NOW!!! BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!! Bring forth slackful Weirdness, and Creativity, and Inspired Rantings from the Depths of your YETI SOULS.
Do it now.
Or kill me.
And just in case I'm not being PERFECTLY CLEAR, for those of you who feel some BIZARRE NEED to post every ACHINGLY INTIMATE DETAIL of your BORINGLY PINK BARELY-POST-ADOLESCENT LIVES, stop it now. And I mean STOP IT RIGHT NOW. There are PLACES for such things, but THIS place is NOT ONE OF THEM.
Yea, I have been tolerant for TOO LONG. The time for TOLERANCE has ENDED.
Find slack, create slack, or die. Those are the ONLY options.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 21:07:13 PDT
From: "William Wylde" <lucifers_friend@hotmail.com> Subject: [SubG] resentment
Treasure's chest heaved as she said:
>>Also, what's up? Dave lkeft the list, and Xoe, Marian doesn't post like thirty messages a day anymore. Kleef is gone again. Sambo
only
>>posts like once a week. its like its only me, Earle, Rwalf,Hil,and
Tim,
>>and we just don't have anything to talk about.
>I resent being left out.
I have been left out all of my life. It's all part of "Bob's" plan. Don't worry child, all of that pent-up fury will have it's ULTIMATE VENTILATION come X-DAY!! Smile and BE BRAVE, sister!! SUCK UP THE SLACK of being LEFT THE FUCK ALONE till then!!
love and xx's,
the debbil's little buddy
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 00:28:49 -0400
From: Hal Phillips <bocko@webspan.net>
Subject: Re: [SubG]I was wrong.
Dr. Jeremy D. Burns wrote:
>something something cabbages,
>doot doot doo
Those are MINE now. You're NOT allowed to use them without permission.
- --
- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hal Phillips
Will do things for money.
Home Page: http://www.microsoft.com
Happy birthday to me, and to you.
Obligatory Signature Quote on hiatus.
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:00:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Pope <mindglue@io.com>
Subject: Re: [SubG] Bye xoe.
I love you Xoe.
I shall continue to stalk you.
Pope Zypgx I
"Satan is a Woman, The Pope is Her Puppet And The World will end in Three Years." -Texas Monthly, July 1997
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:02:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Pope <mindglue@io.com>
Subject: [SubG] Pus
I would like more information about pus. Please send it to me ASAP.
Pope Zypgx I
"Satan is a Woman, The Pope is Her Puppet And The World will end in Three Years." -Texas Monthly, July 1997
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 01:08:22 -0400
From: Dan Kinney <amscray@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [SubG] Pus
Pope wrote:
>I would like more information about pus. Please send it to me ASAP.
>Pope Zypgx I
>"Satan is a Woman, The Pope is Her Puppet
>And The World will end in Three Years."
>-Texas Monthly, July 1997
My do you want information about my kitty?
Moral Beacon
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:12:28 -0400 (EDT) From: NotBobToo@aol.com
Subject: [SubG] Kill for GWAR
I have just found out that GWAR didn't flake out on me. This is the coolest fucking thing for minutes. They were slotted to come to the Northwest a long time ago, then they decided that they hated me. I was really mad. But then, lo and behold, I found out that they do come to Portland, and soon. I figured I should share the slack. Happy belated X-day.
Rev. Shaft
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