From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jun 27, 2001 8:27 PM
Message-ID: <270620012027122094%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <26a3a89e.0106261153.58da65ec@posting.google.com>,
Lupus
Yonderboy <lyonderboy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone out there attending xxxxday that has a miniDV
camcorder?
> I'm thinking we could team up and create an X-day
movie.
>
> We'd all film like fucking crazy, then pool the
best of scenes.
> Send 'em to each other, and see what comes out.
>
We did that majorly for '98 and '99. The 1998 one was
shown at some
film festivals. The 99 one is a two-reeler (4 hours).
The '98 one is
much better, of course. Check out the scatalog at SubSITE.
I editted the collected footage from those, but I let
somebody else do
it for 2000, and I just worked on an audio album of
it all. The audio
album have been done for some time, but nobody ever
did anything to the
video footage that I know of. Actually some guys sent
me some collected
video clips that they had edited on their home computers,
but it was a
first attempt and, well... I'll bring it to Brushwood.
Some non-Subs did a film about X-Day 98, all digital
video, but it was
really pretty sad. They went for the "schmaltz,"
if you can imagine
that, and they managed to make our sick fucked up outing
look cloyingly
therapeutic.
What I would like to do someday is transfer all the
best of the High 8
and VHS devival and X-Day Drill footage from years past
over to DV, and
then PLAY THE HELL WITH IT!! But I kinda need a 40 or
60 gb hard drive
for that. Actually I would end up needing two or three,
I'll bet if the
video digitizing proceeds anything like the audio remastering.
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-738-0150)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 140306, Dallas,
TX 75214
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
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Subject: Re: XXXXDAY, THE MOVIE
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jun 27, 2001 8:31 PM
Message-ID: <270620012031317676%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <WY5_6.1323$vu4.144936@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
St. Marc the Perpetually Amused <disciple@templeoferis.org>
wrote:
>
> Never mind Mr. Passive-Aggressive over there. Here's
a question. I have all
> SORTS of equipment I can bring, but right now I'm
only planning on bringing
> one digicam because I don't know what the power
situation is. The Brushwood
> site says no generators, even if I had one. Is
there gonna be anyplace to
> plug in rechargeable batteries for the recharging
of the batteries? If
> there'll be a place to get power, I can definitely
bring one camcorder and
> *might* be able to, um, borrow, a really nice DV
camcorder. Please advise.
>
> Waitaminute.
>
> I'm only going to be there about 16 hours and then
the world's going to end.
> I've got plenty of batteries to last me 16 hours.
> I don't need you assholes.
>
There are plenty of places to recharge batteries. I
will let people
that I TRUST, such as those who have donated massive
amounts of used
storage disks to the Church, plug in at the Trailer.
That's the "rich
man's big house at the top of the hill." Actually
it's a run-down
outhouse of a triler that's SWELTERING, but us "organizers"
(HA!) get
to stay in it and stash shit in there. Personally I
intend to use it
for stashing only and will have a tent elsewhere. That
trailer is a
HELLHOLE!!!
There's also plugs in the showers, the "studio,"
around the
registration area, and there are actually power outlets
well hidden at
various campsites, which people may well let you use.
Oh yeah, and a lot of the time the stage area has plenty
of free
outlets.
--
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Subject: Re: XXXXDAY, THE MOVIE
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jun 27, 2001 8:48 PM
Message-ID: <270620012048419650%stang@subgenius.com>
In article <hy6_6.2355$Tt6.917247@monger.newsread.com>,
Rabbi Jacklyn
Hyde <rabbs@subgenius.com> wrote:
> "Lupus Yonderboy" <lyonderboy@hotmail.com>
wrote in message
> news:26a3a89e.0106261153.58da65ec@posting.google.com...
> > Anyone out there attending xxxxday that has
a miniDV camcorder?
> > I'm thinking we could team up and create an
X-day movie.
> >
> Do you have ANY idea how many people wander around
at these things with
> camcorders?!? The one time I tried to have a quiet
lunch with Stang and
> Spyder last year I almost accidently swallowed
a goddamn LENS, it was so in
> my face.
> I don't want to think about how heavily I was filmed
at the Bobtism...
When I edited the footage from 98 and 99, in both cases
there were four
main cameramen whose stuff I was using. Each had from
5 to 10 2 hour
rolls. I HAD TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT. Or at least fast-forward
through
it. Although I had to do it as quickly as possible,
it was a truly
weird and submersive experience. I was seeing X-Day
drills through
OTHER PEOPLE'S EYES. Plus, even the moments that i had
either filmed or
had been a participant in, ALL SEEMED NEW!! Being forced
to see events
not as I remembered them, but as seen FROM FOUR ANGLES....
OUCH!!!
Aside from the embarrassment and boredom induced by
much of it, there's
also the sore back, cramped hands and burnt eyes from
dealing with it
physically. To make matters worse, I didn't have a real
editing setup.
I had a High 8 camera that made clean cuts off a pause
button -- with
about 1 sec preroll required which meant that not only
was it not
frame-accurate, but I had to have FIENDISHLY PRECISE
GUESTIMATION to
make any kind of cut-between-sentences work. And the
camera only had an
in-or-output, so for a MONITOR, I had to use the DINKYBLACK
AND WHITE
VIEWFINDER!! Fucking frustrating as hell to someone
who used to make
his living editing feature length documentary FILMS.
It was like I'd
had to go back to 8mm with little hand rewinds and perforated
tape
splices.
BUT, now I am learning FINAL CUT PRO and everything
will be ALL
DIFFERENT in the future!
Different muscles will get sore, and different transition
effects will
get grossly overused!
It's funny, though, what you see through other people's
cameras. A
couple of times I saw more than I cared to know. And
stuff like the
endless recordings of us sitting around yakking -- I
never remember ANY
of that crap until I see the footage later. I sometimes
pity the tape
it's recorded on.
Oh yeah, I forgot, FUCK YOU TOO!!
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-738-0150)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 140306, Dallas,
TX 75214
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
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Subject: Re: XXXXDAY, THE MOVIE
From: Unit 4 <UnitIV@Sputum.COM>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: unit4@sputum.com
Date: Wed, Jun 27, 2001 10:54 PM
Message-ID: <a6qijtkssuiu9t39i2ji8716p6sjh5p463@4ax.com>
On 26 Jun 2001 12:53:27 -0700, lyonderboy@hotmail.com
(Lupus Yonderboy)
wrote, in alt.slack:
}Anyone out there attending xxxxday that has a miniDV camcorder?
Yes.
}I'm thinking we could team up and create an X-day movie.
Oh, I though you meant covertly.
Sorry, I won't be there, and neither will my camera.
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