Cheney strategy--I'm tellin' ya

From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: like.excess@sex.org
Date: Mon, Mar 5, 2001 5:00 PM
Message-ID: <3AA40C68.800@succeeds.com>

Cheney has prolly long known that he is living
on borrowed time. Powell wants to be V.P.,
but didn't want to run for it, figuring it
would be doubly difficult, with some Republican
opposition, and Democrats calling him an "Oreo."

Cheney doesn't just want to sit on his butt
waiting to die, so Bush offered him the job,
figuring that he could play into the capital of
a dead V.P. enough to get Powell without a fight.

As long as Cheney is alive, the job is his, so
he's gonna be motivated to do as good a job as
possible. When he pegs, Powell will have a couple
of years to look good, boosting his chances of
getting re-elected in 2003.

Win-win. 2007 should prove to be interesting,
if you see where this is leading.

Put it all together, you can call it "strategy."
--
"Violence in the pursuit of Greed is no Sin."
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Subject: Re: strategy--I'm tellin' ya
From: "Paul E. Jamison" <pauljmsn@infi.net>

Anybody want to make any guesses how long Cheney will last
before his ticker pops? Everyone seems to have forgotten that
heart attack he had while we waited for the Florida voting results
to be rigged - er, decided. One of these days, Bush will stagger
in, say, "Him no move no more!"

By the way, have they started teaching Dubya to eat with a fork
yet? They'll have to, sooner or later, what with all those diplomatic
dinners he'll be attending. But I haven't noticed the inevitable
forehead injuries yet.

da Rev. Lance Boyle

"BABYLON 5! A five-mile long cement mixer of truth, pouring out the
Concrete of Nice-Nice in a long, grey ribbon into the future, to form a

***SIDE WALK OF JUSTICE!!***"
- The Tick on Babylon 5
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Subject: Re: strategy--I'm tellin' ya
From: joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com (Joe Cosby)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Mar 5, 2001 8:54 PM
Message-ID: <3aa44289.82056456@news.mindspring.com>

We should look into online greeting cards that like have things that
pop out and scream SURPRISE!!!

I know when the Bubbas were in office there was an email address for
most of the cast.

>By the way, have they started teaching Dubya to eat with a fork
>yet? They'll have to, sooner or later, what with all those diplomatic
>dinners he'll be attending. But I haven't noticed the inevitable
>forehead injuries yet.

Well, look at that forehead though. It's like the front glacis plate
on an m-60 tank.

As long as they don't give him a depleted uranium fork, I'll think
he'll be just fine.

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--
Joe Cosby
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But if we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made out
of meat?

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Subject: Re: strategy--I'm tellin' ya
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: like.excess@sex.org
Date: Tue, Mar 6, 2001 9:00 AM
Message-ID: <3AA4ED8B.586E@succeeds.com>

polar bear wrote:
> >
> Brilliant! I hadn't considered that angle at all.
> Of course, nothing says -THEY- can't speed up the
> process, or for that matter offload Bush as well.
> In that event, you'd have your first ever woman
> candidate running against your first ever black
> candidate. Quite the dill-enema!

Not really! The third element is all the rage in
military circles right now: the war with China.

todays news:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_1204000/1204445.stm

China has been building up its navy for several years,
based on the idea that it *must* have a huge merchant
marine to support its economy; so it *also* *must* have
a deep-water navy to protect it; and, it *also* *must*
have Taiwan, to secure the South China Sea.

Strategically, it is trying to dominate all of SE Asia
and Oceania, economically, politically and militarily.

To the North, it only needs a smallish, high-tech force
to keep the bear out. To the West, it has only the two
U.S. ports in Bremerton and San Diego that could prevent
it dominating the entire Pacific Ocean.

To reduce damage to its mostly coastal population, it has
been moving vast numbers (multi-millions) of people inland.

Anyway, there is a significant consensus that we are going
to get into it with them. And NOBODY will vote for a
female president during a war threat of war.

NB: GB, Sr. was ambassador to China; and even the Chinese
regard him as one of the preeminent western China experts
on the planet. I truly doubt that he would let his son
get 'Pearl Harbored' without being able to respond with
something *so horrible* that China would remember it for
a thousand years.

--
"Violence in the pursuit of Greed is no Sin."
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Subject: Re: strategy--I'm tellin' ya
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack

Rev. Cozmo Electrolux wrote:
>
> I never thought of that strategy...I thought that
> Duhbya was just a puppet (a smelly sock puppet) and
> Cheney was running things from behind the curtain....
> but your theory makes much more sense.

I just said "strategy"...I didn't say *whose* strategy.

The assumption would be that Colin Powell is pulling the
strings, but that would be unfair. Cheney is in there,
a willing participant, with Powell in the batter's box.

But...now for the $64 dollar question: who is pulling
Colin Powell's strings?

Consider the following:
1) The dupe, being manipulated.
2) The willing dupe, being manipulated.
3) The willing *participant* in the manipulation.
4) The dominant *group* doing the manipulation.
5) The secondary *groups* allied with the primary.

And then you have the flip side: the mirror image of
those, who have their own agenda *opposite* (to a greater
or lesser extent) from the above.

Byzantium!

--
"Violence in the pursuit of Greed is no Sin."
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Subject: Re: strategy--I'm tellin' ya
From: Ouroboros Rex <c-bee1@staff.uiuc.edu>
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>
> Anybody want to make any guesses how long Cheney will last
> before his ticker pops? Everyone seems to have forgotten that
> heart attack he had while we waited for the Florida voting results
> to be rigged - er, decided. One of these days, Bush will stagger
> in, say, "Him no move no more!"

Well, hey, today's Netscape page sez he just had angioplasty after
more chest pains!

Who the fuck'da thunk the Republicon would be the ones to put a black
man in the veepseat?
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Subject: Re: strategy--I'm tellin' ya
From: Ouroboros Rex <c-bee1@staff.uiuc.edu>

"Rev. Cozmo Electrolux" wrote:
>
> I guess I'm just too new to this conspiracy thing, or just to naive..I still
> don't understand how the people of the US (pink or otherwise) just sit back
> on their haunches and allow shit like this to happen...I mean, it's not THAT
> difficult to see that something isn't right.

Because at any given time, at least half of them are willing
accomplices. They think it might help them afford the next step up in
breakfast cereal.
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Subject: Re: strategy--I'm tellin' ya
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>

>
> I guess I'm just too new to this conspiracy thing,
> or just to naive..I still don't understand how the
> people of the US (pink or otherwise) just sit back
> on their haunches and allow shit like this to
> happen...I mean, it's not THAT difficult to see that
> something isn't right.

That works off the assumption that it isn't "right".

The expression "Byzantine Scheme" is based on the
politics of Byzantium: schemes within schemes within
plots. Conspiracies so complex that literally no one
knows what was going on, alliances and hatreds blending
together--strangely enough resulting in something damn
close to how we run our "republican democracy."

Every conspiratorial person in Washington (read that as
anyone who can get anything done), has a book of credits
(favors and IOUs) and debits (get evens and IOthems).
Most of these are relatively benign: "I voted for his
bill, so he promises to vote for my bill."

This ends up with there being *two* Washingtons: the
*real* one, where deals are made and government is done;
and the *fake* one, the p.r. one, which tells outsiders
what they want to hear.

Strangely enough, the denizens don't really *like* the
fakery they have to put out to the public--but they know
that if they told the truth, not only would they not be
able to do what they are *supposed* to do, but they would
be attacked by any number of assholes *and* be hated and
despised by the dumbass public.

And, FYI, every now and then, someone is stupid enough to
TRY to do it THEIR WAY: one Sec'y of State who decided
that spying on foreign enemies isn't "gentlemanly", so we
shouldn't do it; another who decided that alcohol is bad
so it won't be served at diplomatic functions hosted by the
U.S. (resulting in impressively low attendance by other
countries at U.S. hosted events. Basically nobody.)

Remember that there are usually reasons that people do stuff.
Especially stuff that on the surface looks nasty.

--
"Violence in the pursuit of Greed is no Sin."

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