Subgenii and Discordians must unite!!!!
Connie is an avatar of Discordia.
Look at the Holy Name J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.
J.R.: Two letters -- Bob: Three letters = 2+3=5, 2 and 3...23.
Dobbs: Five Letters
The sacred Five of Discordianism repeated twice. And 23 is also
included.
Gruad Greyface was the first Pinkboy. Unmistakeable.
When the Discordians and the Subgenii acknowledge that THEY ARE ON THE
SAME SIDE and stand together...THE CONSPIRACY WILL FALL. ONCE AND FOR
ALL.
If this shall happen, Slack shall pour from the heavens like sweet dew,
and the Pink shall be the eaters of dung in that glorious day of Be With
Us.
Accept the truth! Let Delumination reign!
We are One Nation Under A Groove, canyoudiggit?
Praise Bob
Hail Eris
All Hail Discordia
Slack is the Law, Slack under Chill
The Highly Irreverend Hell Kitty
aka Grand Papessa Cane di Sirius
United Grand Temple of THE ONE TRUE BOB and of ERIS
Headquarters: St. Zappa by-the-Pacoima-Wash Tabernacle O' Slack,
Somewhere hidden under the San Fernando Valley, California, USA,
Terra/Sol
* SLMR 2.1a * It is not I who am crazy...it is I who am MAD! --Ren Hoek
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From: pkitty@netcom.com (Purple Kitty)
MICHELLE HASS (michelle.hass@ledge.com) wrote:
: Subgenii and Discordians must unite!!!!
I thought that's what groups like the Ordo Deluminatus Dobbsii were for!
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From: i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)
(MICHELLE HASS) wrote:
> From: michelle.hass@ledge.com
>
> Subgenii and Discordians must unite!!!!
If we did, both sides would still have to say we didn't.
>
> When the Discordians and the Subgenii acknowledge that THEY ARE ON THE
> SAME SIDE and stand together...THE CONSPIRACY WILL FALL. ONCE AND FOR
> ALL.
No, Hell Kitty. On that day, the Con would MOW US ALL DOWN. Why do you
think the Discordians "spun off" from Dobbs in the first place?
Back in the late 60s Dobbs said something to the effect that he never
would have released the SubGenius Church virus in the first place had he
not known the Discordians would always be there to derail it if it ever
got totally corrupt.
Well, Discordians? It's totally corrupt now. We're waiting.
Rev. Stang, footsoldier for Dobbs Yeti Resurrected
--
Copyright 1995 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian
MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the
Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc.
PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB
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From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)
On Tue. May 9, 1995, michelle.hass@ledge.com told All:
mhc> When the Discordians and the Subgenii acknowledge that THEY ARE ON
> THE SAME SIDE and stand together...
Er, yeah, but...
Both of them don't even stand together on the same side that they're
already on. They CAN'T. Them's the RULES. To paraphrase St. Janor:
You can't be DIFFERENT TOGETHER.
How ya gonna be DIFFERENT TOGETHER?
If your together, how are you gonna be DIFFERENT?
And if you're different, how are you gonna be TOGETHER?
You can't be DIFFERENT TOGETHER, HEEE-yuh help me somebody, my legs are on
fire, praise Dobbs.
Or, to paraphrase myself in something I haven't said yet:
I'm a little teapot, short and stout.
This is my handle, touch it and you'd better mean business.
* 2qwk! 1.26b3 * If you can't laugh at yourself ... I'll do it for you.
--
dynasor@infi.net The Doctor is on.
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From: ghsst6+@pitt.edu (Geoffrey H Spear)
i.stang@metronet.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) wrote:
>
>Well, Discordians? It's totally corrupt now. We're waiting.
well, i think the problem is that "Bob" didn't realize that we
Discordians would be too stoned to care or even notice that the
SubGenius church got corrupted. and those who do notice are
all SubGs and Discordians at the same time, and while i've really
got nothing better to do than trying to destroy myself, i'd rather
play a good game of Sink.
--
Geoff Spear |"And whenever rn sees your .signature
ghsst6+@pitt.edu | it'll rmgroup alt.slack as well! Yay!"
http://www.pitt.edu/~ghsst6/ | - Kibo
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From: pkitty@netcom.com (Purple Kitty)
Lt. Wilkes (ltwilkes@netcom.com) wrote:
: Hey! What the Hell am I doing in alt.slack?!?
The backstroke.
(Yeah, I know...So kill me!)
Reverend Pee Kitty
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From: nenslo@teleport.com (NENSLO)
: (MICHELLE HASS) bellows mightily:
: >Subgenii and Discordians must unite!!!!
Nenslo says: Sure, that's great. For the DISCORDIANS. They don't mind
being around people who are superior to them in every way. They spend
their whole lives like that. Unfortunately, the average SubGenius spends
FAR TOO MUCH time in the company of dorky geeks who think they can be
funny by saying fnord or O.J. or Oklahoma.
Oh, hell, I'm sorry. I blew it again, MODEMAC.
What I meant to say was YEAH, THAT'LL BE GREAT! I don't spend
nearly enough time discussing the works of Douglas Adams and watching TV
with a big can of Fosters balanced on my huge gut! I LOVE humor and
wit! Paging Mister David Ellis! Ha Ha Ha!
--
-Copyright NENSLO KDV 1995-
Send One Dollar to box 86582 Portland OR 97286
This is a READER SUPPORTED ministry.
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From: ljduchez@en.com (Lou Duchez)
Yeah, I'm still not quite sure about the mechanism here. A person
starts off questing after weirdness, but they stop when they've found
something that only about 73% of people aren't familiar with (Monty
Python, "The Doors", fnord-this and fnord-that). You'd think that
they'd keep pushing the boundaries, getting a certain thrill from
discovering exactly what extremes of thought they can subject
themselves to.
I don't know, maybe it's just a stupid "superiority" trip, and
"superiority" is no good if there's no one else who believes in it.
So they stop short of pushing into unknown territory. But that's a
little more pessimistic than I'd like to believe. Which bites, since
I think I hit the nail on the head.
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From: matta@sun.lclark.edu (Matt Alexander)
>Subgenii and Discordians must unite!!!!
Consider it DONE. Also consider that a pack of screaming Anarchist
chemically-enhanced YAHOOS unified under one banner is not nessesarly any
more effective/dangerous than two, but by Eris's Piercings, it'd be a
hell of a party.
And that party is BURNING MAN FESTIVAL '95. Coming to a barren western
wasteland this September. Lauch some heads and bring DAD'S tapes for the
radio station.
Chunga sez: "YETI WANT PLAY."
-><- Pope Alexander, Dr. Bronner's Magic Cabal
ALL-ONE GODDESS FAITH UNITES THE HUMAN RACE! ALL-ONE!
HAIL ERIS! ALL HAIL DISCORDIA! EXCEPTIONS ETERNALLY? NONE!
DON'T DRINK SOAP! KEEP OUT OF THIRD EYE! DILUTE! DILUTE! OK!
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From: ltwilkes@netcom.com (Lt. Wilkes)
ghsst6+@pitt.edu (Geoffrey H Spear) writes:
>well, i think the problem is that "Bob" didn't realize that we
>Discordians would be too stoned to care or even notice that the
>SubGenius church got corrupted.
Actually, that would work out just fine. You see, the newly corrupt SubGs
would probably trip over us as we lie stoned in their doorways, thus causing
them to forget the key component of their evil plan that they just thought
of.
Either that or they'd find out that they were $1.47 short of taking over the
World after they tossed us a couple of bucks to get us off their backs when
we begged them for spare change. Of course when they'd try to find us to get
the money back we'd already have disappeared to buy more drugs in order to
unconsciously thwart their future plans.
Hey! What the Hell am I doing in alt.slack?!?
Sincerely,
Lieutenant Wilkes
--
"You have to take a lighter approach now. Jumping up on a table in a busy
restaurant, swinging from the ceiling fans, and screaming, 'YOU'RE ALL GONNA
BURN IN HELL,' just scares people away." - Interview with Steven Forker, on
his future role as the Third Coming of Christ, in Precious the Cow Magazine
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From: ltwilkes@netcom.com (Lt. Wilkes)
pkitty@netcom.com (Purple Kitty) writes:
>Lt. Wilkes (ltwilkes@netcom.com) wrote:
>: Hey! What the Hell am I doing in alt.slack?!?
>The backstroke.
>(Yeah, I know...So kill me!)
So are you trying to say that I'm the figurative fly in the "soup"
of alt.slack?
"Waiter! What is Lieutenant Wilkes doing in alt.slack?!?"
Sincerely,
Lieutenant Wilkes
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From: cdemmons@gate.net (Gypsy Joker)
Matthew Carey (ac118@lafn.org) wrote:
: In a previous article, sbh0347@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu (Laughing Coyote aka.
: Darknut the Knight of Cups [master of paradox])) says:
: >from some Evil Anarchistic CounterRevolutionary Organisation/Cult called
: >Discordia or something like that. Hienrich Himmler^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
: >Janet Reno vowed later to "investigate this" (horror/affront to the Computer/
: >commiemutanttraitor) in order to follow the recent fascist hysteria in the
: THIS IS SO ANNOYING!!!! What did we Discordians ever *DO*??? If they
: want to keep tabs on some real trouble makers, they should be
: investigating the Church of the SubGenius and warning the nation about THEM.
<Ahem> Vile heretical scumbag! Only an agent of Greyface would suggest
such a thing! Are you sure you're not also perhaps an FBI agent here on
a cointelpro mission to disrupt relations between The Church of the
Subgenius and the Discordians???
: Those SubGenius bastards are going to bring down Western Civilization as
: we know it if the American people don't get wise to the fact that they
: are A SERIOUSLY ACTIVE RELIGIOUS CULT OF DANGEROUS FANATICS.
Double standard city. And what exactly would be so bad about the fall of
Western Civilization?? Perhaps you'd better consult your principia
concerning the cycles of history, that's if you actually *own* a
principia or indeed know anything of Eris Discordia (which I frankly doubt)
and are not a government infiltrator.
: God damn. Investigating the Discordians. What a waste of TAX MONEY!!!!!
If this unenlightened individual actually *was* a discordian (not a
net.geek pretending to be one or a government agent) and actually wanted
to do something about this rather than just *whining* about it and
demonizing another religion (not unlike That Other Name Brand Religion,
Christianity which *just loves* to demonize anyone who does not follow
their particular religous doctrine to the letter) he might suggest an
electronic jake to all the people in government involved in an attempted
persecution of the Discordians, like I'm doing now. Anyone who is
interested please mail me as: cdemmon@gate.net
And "Rev" Carey, please feel free to post here again when your IQ exceeds
your shoe size, you ignorant bigot!
Hail Eris! Praise Norton!
President-For-Life Rev. Gypsy Joker KSC, IM, Earl of Fives
: --
: Rev. Matthew A. Carey Rips \ on Vision Temple--Tarzana, CA
: 18653 Ventura Blvd., Suite #379 ]\[ "We are not an occult."
: Tarzana, Calif. 91356 Rips \ off mnbvc
: ac118@lafn.org ]\[
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From: lcu_ccp@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Detective Sanchez)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia,alt.slack
Subject: Re: The demonization process
Gypsy Joker wrote:
!!! a coin operated telephone mission to disrupt relations between
!!! The Couch of the Subgenius and the Dipschordyans???
Subba-who?
!!! : Those Jeanhubble backwards are going to bring down Taco Bell as
!!! : we know it if the American Pimples don't get wise to the fact that they
!!! : are A SERIOUSLY ACTIVE INGREDIENT OF HAIRY MAYPOLES.
!!!
!!! Double standard city. And what exactly would be so bad about the fall of
!!! Western Civilization??
Been there, done that.
!!! Perhaps you'd better consult your principia
!!! concerning the cycles of history, that's if you actually *own* a
!!! principia or indeed know anything of Eris Discordia (which I frankly doubt)
!!! and are not a government infiltrator. ^
Um, hey! I read it ONCE. I don't have the time to go around _consulting_
it all the time now. What? You think I have the time or give a shit
about what that stupid BOOK has to tell me to do and how to act? Next
you're gonna tell me to go consult the Bau^h^hible, watch more TV and vote
for Newtie! Robert Anton Wilson was consecrated and speaking on behalf of
some divine authority no more than the "old Jay" who sat and scribbled
divisive
historical bi^habble and said God told her to do it.(Fundies please
ignore that little bit about the Jay. You wouldn't understand it and
certainly wouldn't agree with it and I'm not going to explain it to you)
Books are only as reliable as people are. I'm just not sold on this
"divine inspiration" bullshit. Nobody's right and nobody's book is
neither!
This is not to say I'm not entertained by books, however. I just have
to laugh when I hear this "Consult your [insert title here]" bullshit.
If someone's being stupid, let em be stupid. They might just be less
stupid than you once you've opened your big mouth.
And furthermore, you misspelled "or". Hope this helps.
!!! If this unenlightened individual actually *was* a discordian (not a
!!! net.geek pretending to be one or a government agent)
Oh, we're supposed to be pious, bossy and conform to set attitude standards
now, are we? When did THIS happen? I never got the memo!
...blah blah blah...
!!! he might suggest an electronic jake to all the people in government
!!! involved in an attempted persecution of the Discordians, like I'm doing
!!! now.
This sounds like the action of a seasoned super-cool non geeky net bigwig.
Maybe he knew he could count on you to whine, bitch and cry until someone
politely requested your mailsite engineer to pull your account for net
abuse. Better you than him. If you want to create real havoc, don't
tell the whole world just before you try.
...babble babble rant rant...
It's time to go read a book now.
Regards,
DetSan
: quit
--
"Remember, "Normal" is just a setting on the dryer."
- Lynn Gates, overheard while strolling past the Main
Entrance of the Precious The Cow Magazine Office
Headquarters
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From: Philip A Frandsen <pfrand@selway.umt.edu>
On 18 May 1995, Gypsy Joker wrote:
> Matthew Carey (ac118@lafn.org) wrote:
>
> <Ahem> Vile heretical scumbag! Only an agent of Greyface would suggest
> such a thing! Are you sure you're not also perhaps an FBI agent here on
> a cointelpro mission to disrupt relations between The Church of the
> Subgenius and the Discordians???
Err... I'm not sure that our relations can get any more disrupted. I
mean... we ARE Discordians (except of course for all those of us who are
government plants <and I'll be convinced the government is threatened by
us the MINUTE we do something frightening... or next thursday, whichever
comes first>) after all, and they ARE Subgenii, and we DID get listed as
part of the COnspiracy in their stupid book (which is actually quite good
and amusing and RIGHT ON THE FUCKING MONEY about a lot of things...
probably a better read than the Principia, to be honest) so I say FUCK
'EM. Let them fend for themselves if they're so goddamned tough. If
they can't cut the parsley, then they get their cult shut down... it's
natural selection, buddy... only the best liars survive.
> : are A SERIOUSLY ACTIVE RELIGIOUS CULT OF DANGEROUS FANATICS.
>
> Double standard city. And what exactly would be so bad about the fall of
I think 'e woz joking. I laughed, anyway... if you didn't, then it's not
true.
> Western Civilization?? Perhaps you'd better consult your principia
> concerning the cycles of history, that's if you actually *own* a
> principia or indeed know anything of Eris Discordia (which I frankly doubt)
> and are not a government infiltrator.
AH, I see. To be a true Discordian, you must OWN the principia. Ov
COURSE. It's all down to material posessions. (for the record, my
principia isn't owned by anyone. It's renting a corner of my closet,
with option to buy.) I happen to think Government Infiltrators are about
as DIscordian as you can get.
> If this unenlightened individual actually *was* a discordian (not a
> net.geek pretending to be one or a government agent) and actually wanted
Is there a difference? Trout.
> demonizing another religion (not unlike That Other Name Brand Religion,
Methinks the SG's have done a fine job of demonizing themSELVES... almost
as good a job as the DIscordians have.
Wow... this whole post reminds me of Alt.punk.
"I'm Discordian!" "Fuck you! You're not!" "I am too! I'm Discordian
as Fuck!"
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From: ac118@lafn.org (Matthew Carey)
In a previous article, nenslo@teleport.com (NENSLO) says:
>Lou Duchez (ljduchez@en.com) wrote:
>: I don't know, maybe it's just a stupid "superiority" trip, and
>: "superiority" is no good if there's no one else who believes in it.
>: So they stop short of pushing into unknown territory. But that's a
>: little more pessimistic than I'd like to believe. Which bites, since
>: I think I hit the nail on the head.
>Nenslo says:
> Please proceed to RevMac's "Obscurity War" essay for more
>excellent thoughts on this subject. Some smart person probably knows a
>way to hook it up here or copy and dump it into this thread but Nenslo is
>too ignorant/lazy.
Technically, Obscurity War is part of this thread. It was Lou's post
that made me write it.
--
Rev. Matthew A. Carey Rips \ on Vision Temple--Tarzana, CA
18653 Ventura Blvd., Suite #379 ]\[ "We are not an occult."
Tarzana, Calif. 91356 Rips \ off mnbvc
ac118@lafn.org ]\[
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From: ljduchez@en.com (Lou Duchez)
But the Obscurity War thread was already going before I posted!
Sounds like the lab boys at the Institoot{tm} are having some more
problems with their experiments.
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From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)
They must have been successful. I had no idea we were running any.
Good. I can claim we weren't and refuse to feed the^H^H^H^H^H^H^H give
them a raise.
ao> No, I swear to "Bob", I was on my like 12th cup of coffee or
> something and I read your post and started to go
> "yeahyeahyeahyeahyeah!!!!" I was going to follow it up but I had all
> these thoughts ricocheting around so I went and tried to calm down.
ao> HOURS later everything cohesitated and meshed and coalesced and
> D*V*T**L*D (buzzword censored) and etc.
ao> There must have been goo in the Time Control Apparatus. Remember the
> method for smelting aluminum was discovered by two guys working
> independantly on opposite sides of the globe who never met each other
> -- and it happened in the same year.
And don't forget the telephone. Credit went to Bell for filing the patent
a matter of HOURS before, um, what's his name. Man, imagine if the other
guy had been a few hours earlier, and as soon as Bell hooked it up, it
RANG!
ao> There's a word for this.
Crunt.
* 2qwk! 1.26b3 * If you can't say something nice, say something surreal.
--
dynasor@infi.net The Doctor is on.
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From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)
On Thu. May 25, 1995, winterm@tmewarp.atl.ga.us told All:
wagu> Now why do slack when you can do Discord? What are the benifits?
The energy you expend. Discord is a perfectly fine goal for a SubG.
With Slack, you can achieve discord, or most any goal, with little to no
effort. Slack bends the luck plane so that reality slides into place
without direct effort; Slack makes reality WANT to be that way.
Although they're compatible at some levels, at the primary level, the
intent of the faith, they are not. A Discordian can get some Slack and use
it to create Discord, but it's hard won and not very effectual. A SubG can
(and does) spread some discord, but mostly as a by product -- they have a
common goal which is primary, and that is preparing for the arrival of
the X-ist saucers. Too much discord (non-purposeful earning the small 'd')
and they don't get the job done. The SubG requires discord, as a means of
poking things to watch them slide around the luck plane to see if they
fall into place, indicating sufficient Slack for the job at hand. As an
avocation though, it'd run contrary to their purpose.
* 2qwk! 1.26b3 * Wicked Witch Parking Only - Violators will be toad.
--
dynasor@infi.net The Doctor is on.
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From: ismael@dcpro.UUCP (Kevin T. Ismael)
Stang speaks:
RS> Well, Discordians? It's totally corrupt now. We're waiting.
I suppose, then, that Dobbs would be infinitely pleased to know that the two
have always seemed completely harmonius to me. Discordianism on the whole is
alot like a political movement that claims to be a religion and the Subs tend
to be a religion that claim to be part of a political movement. It seems like
the perfect marriage. Of course, for appearance's sake, I suppose it's best
to ignore their common goals and get busy destroying each other from within.
Hey, maybe if enough Subgenii secretly infiltrated the ELF & Company and
enough Discordians covertly took over the Church, then we could just switch
for awhile!
Praise Dobbs -- All Hail Discordia
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