Utah Phillips casts his first vote ever, HAW GLORY!!!
Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 21 Oct 2004 17:53:52 -0700

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http://www.alternet.org/election04/20159/

Personally, I do not vote FOR particular issues or ideologies as
such; I vote against inhumanity. Yeah, in this setup, that's a
crapshoot with dice the size of the moons of Mars, but if you're going
to be kicked, don't let it be said you didn't bite the bastard's ankle
in the process.

--

HellPope Huey ~ www.subgenius.com
I'm pretty much out of my damned mind
and I approve this message.

"Change comes in excruciating increments
for those who want it."
- "The West Wing"

"C'mon,
those moles aren't gonna whack themselves!"
- "King of the Hill"


Correspondent:: "garbaman"
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:12:16 -0400

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What we got under 4 years of Republicans in control:

A clown with RECORD days out of office/gone fishin' in 6-mo period before
9/11
9/11 with RECORD number of Americans killed in a single hit on American soil
RECORD deficit from a RECORD surplus
RECORD job losses
RECORD gas prices in the past 15 years
RECORD number of Americans killed in a foreign war since Vietnam
RECORD number of Americans being beheaded - on video!
Worst flu vaccine crisis on the RECORD
The Abu Ghraib scandal
RECORD number of Arabs hating US
RECORD number of allies who sit on the fence until the bozo is replaced
200 BILLIONS WASTED in Iraq
RECORD tax cuts for corporations and wealthy
RECORD prices for drugs and health care
RECORD number of jobs moved overseas

Well, I have to go to bed so I will stop here ...to be continued tomorrow ..
..it is MUCH TOO MUCH!


"HellPopeHuey" wrote in message
news:8cc8cffc.0410211653.50646bbc@posting.google.com...
> http://www.alternet.org/election04/20159/
>
> Personally, I do not vote FOR particular issues or ideologies as
> such; I vote against inhumanity. Yeah, in this setup, that's a
> crapshoot with dice the size of the moons of Mars, but if you're going
> to be kicked, don't let it be said you didn't bite the bastard's ankle
> in the process.
>
> --
>
> HellPope Huey ~ www.subgenius.com
> I'm pretty much out of my damned mind
> and I approve this message.
>
> "Change comes in excruciating increments
> for those who want it."
> - "The West Wing"
>
> "C'mon,
> those moles aren't gonna whack themselves!"
> - "King of the Hill"




Correspondent:: idontreply@toemail.com (mclark)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:29:58 -0600

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HellPopeHuey wrote:

> http://www.alternet.org/election04/20159/
>
> Personally, I do not vote FOR particular issues or ideologies as
> such; I vote against inhumanity. Yeah, in this setup, that's a
> crapshoot with dice the size of the moons of Mars, but if you're going
> to be kicked, don't let it be said you didn't bite the bastard's ankle
> in the process.
>
> --
>
> HellPope Huey ~ www.subgenius.com
> I'm pretty much out of my damned mind
> and I approve this message.
>
> "Change comes in excruciating increments
> for those who want it."
> - "The West Wing"
>
> "C'mon,
> those moles aren't gonna whack themselves!"
> - "King of the Hill"

Try:

http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/

Bill Clinton has something to say about people like John Kerry:

"There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending
that you can love your country but despise your government."

Bill Clinton
Commencement at Michigan State University
May 5, 1995

M. Clark


Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:20:39 GMT

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In article <1gm2k7x.f31781fmgh3hN%idontreply@toemail.com>,
idontreply@toemail.com (mclark) wrote:

> Try:
> http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/
>
> Bill Clinton has something to say about people like John Kerry:
>
> "There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending
> that you can love your country but despise your government."

In this instance, Bill is brimming with bullshit. The "country" is made
up of actual PEOPLE, more or less. The government is made up of
narcissistic manipulators, bland android functionaries and a certain
number of capable types who are hogtied by, at best, dubious procedures
and policies.

Patriotism is a nationalistic construct that has almost nothing to do
with getting the job done. Its ADVERTISING with a big agenda. There are
things about the U.S. for which I am profoundly grateful; there are
others which are either embarrassing or downright frightening. If Bill
thinks that fighting to oppose blatant despoilers is incompatible with
patriotism, then he was inhaling jimson weed the day he said that.

Okay, any system founded and run by Hyoo-mons is going to have flaws. I
accept that reality and I have both respect and compassion in my kit for
the widely varying situations that sometimes go askew due to the
unforeseen or unavoidable instances of bad weather. However, I know that
my COUNTRY has been suffering because the higher-end GOVERNMENT as
defined by the Halliburtonites has become a band of smirking bullies and
heavy-handed opportunists who are doing insane and needless damage. If I
have to do some perverse dance with Dick Cheney to be a "patriot," then
pack my bags for MARS. Okay, there's a straight line for ya.

--

HellPope Huey
Welcome to "Dog Bitch-Ass Theatre."
Its 2 straight hours of dogs sniffing other dogs' butts.
Quick, call Fox. It can run right after "The Simple Life."

When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle.
It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself.
- Joe Cosby

Life is a series of dogs.
- George Carlin


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:37:59 GMT

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HellPope Huey wrote:
> In article <1gm2k7x.f31781fmgh3hN%idontreply@toemail.com>,
> idontreply@toemail.com (mclark) wrote:
>
>> Try:
>> http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/
>>
>> Bill Clinton has something to say about people like John Kerry:
>>
>> "There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending
>> that you can love your country but despise your government."
>
> In this instance, Bill is brimming with bullshit. The "country" is made
> up of actual PEOPLE, more or less. The government is made up of
> narcissistic manipulators, bland android functionaries and a certain
> number of capable types who are hogtied by, at best, dubious procedures
> and policies.
>
> Patriotism is a nationalistic construct that has almost nothing to do
> with getting the job done. Its ADVERTISING with a big agenda. There are
> things about the U.S. for which I am profoundly grateful; there are
> others which are either embarrassing or downright frightening. If Bill
> thinks that fighting to oppose blatant despoilers is incompatible with
> patriotism, then he was inhaling jimson weed the day he said that.
>
> Okay, any system founded and run by Hyoo-mons is going to have flaws. I
> accept that reality and I have both respect and compassion in my kit for
> the widely varying situations that sometimes go askew due to the
> unforeseen or unavoidable instances of bad weather. However, I know that
> my COUNTRY has been suffering because the higher-end GOVERNMENT as
> defined by the Halliburtonites has become a band of smirking bullies and
> heavy-handed opportunists who are doing insane and needless damage. If I
> have to do some perverse dance with Dick Cheney to be a "patriot," then
> pack my bags for MARS. Okay, there's a straight line for ya.

It's all about context, as usual.

The quote was from a speech at Michigan State on May 5, 1995, barely two
weeks after the Oklahoma City bombing and amid widespread fear of the
perceived threat posed to American democracy by extremist right-wing
militias:

"So I say this to the militias... If you say violence is an acceptable
way to make change, you are wrong... How dare you suggest that we in the
freest nation on Earth live in tyranny. How dare you call yourselves
patriots and heroes.

"I say to you, all of you, the members of the Class of 1995, there is
nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending that you can
love your country but despise your government. There is nothing heroic
about turning your back on America, or ignoring your own
responsibilities. If you want to preserve your own freedom, you must
stand up for the freedom of others with whom you disagree. But you also
must stand up for the rule of law. You cannot have one without the other."


Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 23 Oct 2004 18:04:46 -0700

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...

> It's all about context, as usual.
> The quote was from a speech at Michigan State on May 5, 1995, barely two
> weeks after the Oklahoma City bombing and amid widespread fear of the
> perceived threat posed to American democracy by extremist right-wing
> militias:
..................
> "I say to you, all of you, the members of the Class of 1995, there is
> nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending that you can
> love your country but despise your government. There is nothing heroic
> about turning your back on America, or ignoring your own
> responsibilities. (My caps) IF YOU WANT TO PRESERVE YOUR OWN FREEDOM, YOU MUST STAND UP FOR THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS WITH WHOM YOU DISAGREE. BUT YOU ALSO MUST STAND UP FOR THE RULE OF LAW. YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER."

I guess the President didn't get it, either.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/23/elec02.bush.protests/

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/299967.shtml

--

HellPope Huey
Welcome to "Dog Bitch-Ass Theatre."
Its 2 straight hours of dogs sniffing other dogs' butts.
Quick, call Fox. It can run right after "The Simple Life."

When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle.
It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself.
- Joe Cosby

Life is a series of dogs.
- George Carlin

http://www.jibjab.com/


Correspondent:: idontreply@toemail.com (mclark)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:11:26 -0600

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HellPope Huey wrote:

> In article <1gm2k7x.f31781fmgh3hN%idontreply@toemail.com>,
> idontreply@toemail.com (mclark) wrote:
>
> > Try:
> > http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/
> >
> > Bill Clinton has something to say about people like John Kerry:
> >
> > "There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending
> > that you can love your country but despise your government."
>
> In this instance, Bill is brimming with bullshit. The "country" is made
> up of actual PEOPLE, more or less. The government is made up of
> narcissistic manipulators, bland android functionaries and a certain
> number of capable types who are hogtied by, at best, dubious procedures
> and policies.
>
> Patriotism is a nationalistic construct that has almost nothing to do
> with getting the job done. Its ADVERTISING with a big agenda. There are
> things about the U.S. for which I am profoundly grateful; there are
> others which are either embarrassing or downright frightening. If Bill
> thinks that fighting to oppose blatant despoilers is incompatible with
> patriotism, then he was inhaling jimson weed the day he said that.
>
> Okay, any system founded and run by Hyoo-mons is going to have flaws. I
> accept that reality and I have both respect and compassion in my kit for
> the widely varying situations that sometimes go askew due to the
> unforeseen or unavoidable instances of bad weather. However, I know that
> my COUNTRY has been suffering because the higher-end GOVERNMENT as
> defined by the Halliburtonites has become a band of smirking bullies and
> heavy-handed opportunists who are doing insane and needless damage. If I
> have to do some perverse dance with Dick Cheney to be a "patriot," then
> pack my bags for MARS. Okay, there's a straight line for ya.
>
> --
>
> HellPope Huey
> Welcome to "Dog Bitch-Ass Theatre."
> Its 2 straight hours of dogs sniffing other dogs' butts.
> Quick, call Fox. It can run right after "The Simple Life."
>
> When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle.
> It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
> and gag himself.

Have you tried:

http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/

John Kerry's initial reaction to 9/11:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/6/92357.shtml

M. Clark

> - Joe Cosby
>
> Life is a series of dogs.
> - George Carlin


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:57:24 GMT

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mclark wrote:

> John Kerry's initial reaction to 9/11:

What about Bush's reaction to 9/11?

The President of the United States and Commander in Chief of the United
States Armed Forces heard the words "America is under attack" whispered
in his ear, and he SAT ON HIS HEMORRHOIDAL TEXAS ASS for FIVE SOLID MINUTES.

Fun fact: Warning time on a submarine-launched nuclear attack can be as
little as 6 minutes, and perhaps not even that.

PICK UP THE RED PHONE, GEORGE!


Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 09:21:48 -0700

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idontreply@toemail.com (mclark) wrote in message news:<1gm4i37.1d53fwc1tq6ylpN%idontreply@toemail.com>...

> Have you tried:
> http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/
> John Kerry's initial reaction to 9/11:
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/6/92357.shtml

I would simply say "What was a Senator SUPPOSED to do at that
moment?" It was on the President's watch. You or I would have surely
all but bolted from the room and hit the deck running. I can't peer
into Kerry's soul and say what he might or might not have done, but
aside from getting on the horn and finding out what was what ASAP, it
wasn't his place to deal with it directly. Perhaps George took his
time because he had been informed that others were already on it and
he HAD a few minutes to sit with the kids without upsetting them with
the sudden news. Perhaps Kerry sought information with deliberate
speed after the initial shock. Perhaps if there was a Justice League,
Superman and Green Lantern would have stopped the planes from hitting
the towers.

I do not think Kerry is perfect by any means and I do not think
George is really a COMPLETE idiot, but all in all, Kerry has a Silver
Star and shows evidence of modifying his views when presented with new
evidence, a VITAL sign of flexibility George lacks. George has failed
businesses, egregious public fumbling and highly suspect business
connections trailing behind him like toilet paper stuck to his shoe.

All one can do is take a deep breath, vote and hope for the best.
When rich men play, the non-rich inevitably suffer and no rhetoric
from left or right can change THAT trumping fact. Sure, I vote
partially from my gut, but I also read from BOTH sides and make sure
my mind INFORMS my gut. Its hard to live in a W.C. Fields world - "I
never vote for, I always vote against"- but the hopeful lesser of two
evils is still less of it.

--

HellPope Huey
Earth is the comedy relief for the rest of the Universe.

"In 75 years, we'll know if we're right or wrong,
but nobody standing here today
can tell me that with any certainty."
- "The West Wing"

"They really have my balls in a Salad Shooter."
- "South Park"

http://www.trojanmedia.org/pub/terrieralert.jpg


Correspondent:: idontreply@toemail.com (mclark)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:04:19 -0600

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HellPopeHuey wrote:

> idontreply@toemail.com (mclark) wrote in message
> news:<1gm4i37.1d53fwc1tq6ylpN%idontreply@toemail.com>...
>
> > Have you tried: http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/ John Kerry's
> > initial reaction to 9/11:
> > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/6/92357.shtml
>
> I would simply say "What was a Senator SUPPOSED to do at that
> moment?" It was on the President's watch. You or I would have surely
> all but bolted from the room and hit the deck running. I can't peer
> into Kerry's soul and say what he might or might not have done, but
> aside from getting on the horn and finding out what was what ASAP, it
> wasn't his place to deal with it directly. Perhaps George took his
> time because he had been informed that others were already on it and
> he HAD a few minutes to sit with the kids without upsetting them with
> the sudden news. Perhaps Kerry sought information with deliberate
> speed after the initial shock. Perhaps if there was a Justice League,
> Superman and Green Lantern would have stopped the planes from hitting
> the towers.
>
> I do not think Kerry is perfect by any means and I do not think
> George is really a COMPLETE idiot, but all in all, Kerry has a Silver
> Star and shows evidence of modifying his views when presented with new
> evidence, a VITAL sign of flexibility George lacks. George has failed
> businesses, egregious public fumbling and highly suspect business
> connections trailing behind him like toilet paper stuck to his shoe.
>
> All one can do is take a deep breath, vote and hope for the best.
> When rich men play, the non-rich inevitably suffer and no rhetoric
> from left or right can change THAT trumping fact. Sure, I vote
> partially from my gut, but I also read from BOTH sides and make sure
> my mind INFORMS my gut. Its hard to live in a W.C. Fields world - "I
> never vote for, I always vote against"- but the hopeful lesser of two
> evils is still less of it.
>
> --
>
> HellPope Huey
> Earth is the comedy relief for the rest of the Universe.
>
> "In 75 years, we'll know if we're right or wrong,
> but nobody standing here today
> can tell me that with any certainty."
> - "The West Wing"
>
> "They really have my balls in a Salad Shooter."
> - "South Park"
>
> http://www.trojanmedia.org/pub/terrieralert.jpg

Bush has his faults just like everybody else. However, the Democrats,
in their tunnel-vision delirium to get revenge on Bush for "stealing"
the presidency from Al Gore, would have nominated Charles Manson for
President if they thought that Manson could get Bush out of the Oval
Office. The Dems had 10+ potential candidates at one time but ended up
nominating sociopathic liar John Kerry.

Have you checked out:

http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/

John Kerry's initial reaction to 9/11:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/6/92357.shtml

M. Clark


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:14:47 GMT

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mclark wrote:

> Have you checked out:

Have you checked out:

PLONK