Correspondent:: "iDRMRSR" Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:34:40 -0400
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You know, when I see stories like this emanating out of places I don't give
a shit about, I wonder sometimes if there's anybody smart enough living
there that the minute they pop out of mommy, they look around and go "Ohhh
shit, this is EGYPT...OH NOOOO!!! FUCKING EGYPT!!!" and strangle themselves
with their own umbilical cords?
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Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 19:52:26 -0700
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:34:40 -0400, "iDRMRSR"
wrote:
>You know, when I see stories like this emanating out of places I don't give
>a shit about, I wonder sometimes if there's anybody smart enough living
>there that the minute they pop out of mommy, they look around and go "Ohhh
>shit, this is EGYPT...OH NOOOO!!! FUCKING EGYPT!!!" and strangle themselves
>with their own umbilical cords?
>
Out of the many new-age ideas that fill me with horror, the worst has
to be reincarnation.
I guess it is supposed to be reassuring, because if you believe in it
you get to believe that you live forever. But MY "BOB", spend five
minutes thinking about it logically.
I mean, what, 99.9% of the world's population live in some war-torn,
disease-ravaged third-world shithole. All the women have AIDS and all
the food and water will give you dysentery. But it doesn't matter
anyway because you belong to some superstiatious-ass boogah boogah
religion which should have died in the jungle about the same time we
developed opposable digits which the government enforces at gunpoint
and which forbids you to fuck the women or eat any particularly good
food. Even if you live in a theoretically advanced nation the odds
are 99.9 to one that you will be born a complete FUCKING MORON,
obssessed with trying to nail the Great American Dream and thus
wasting your life in the endless backbiting passive-aggresive
crypto-neurotic struggles with family, work, and the world that people
snidely call "their lives" or, if you have been one of the very few to
see the futilitiy of THAT, the odds are 99.9 to one that you have
tried to get away from it by trying to REVERT to one of the boogah
boogah religions of the "golden past".
I can't imagine living a HUNDRED years ago. Life in Victorian times
seems just unbearably ignorant and primitive. Just think, next time
you are out on a nice sunny day somewhere public. And look at all the
hottie women out there, dressed in "FUCK ME PLEASE" style . With me
so far? A hundred years ago, people were GENUINELY OFFENDED by a
bathing suit which allowed a woman's ANKLES to be seen. Do you get
the picture? Talking bad about the church could get you thrown in
jail, laws about "immorality" and "intemperance" were still the rule
of the day.
The past SUCKS.
Now imagine the future. It's all crashing down around our heads.
There's no way in hell the human race is going to wise up about the
way we are fucking up and overpopulating the world and the
rapidly-accelerating mega-crises that are just warming up now are
going to be sliding down the hill like a tobaggon loaded with bowling
balls very soon here. If you've seen "Let's visit the world of the
future", I suspect that is probably not all that far off the mark.
Another hundred years AHEAD of us, and I think we are going to have to
raise humans the way we raise restaurant chickens now; stacked in
little coops 6 high, pumping in liquid protein and pumping out waste
products.
The odds are a ZILLION TO ONE AGAINST having life in the universe at
all, and the odds of having been born in a relatively SLACKFUL life
are another zillion to one against. The alternatives are all CRINGING
HORRORS.
REINCARNATION? Throw those same dice AGAIN?
not that I mean to be a downer or anything.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Show me that your footglands are bigger, metaphysically speaking, than my
WHOLE BODY.
Correspondent:: "ArWeGod" Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:15:12 GMT
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"Zapanaz" wrote in message
news:p7ubm0p8k94m03rt5qgdab3d1mc72eg60n@4ax.com...
great rant, sorry for the snip...
>
> REINCARNATION? Throw those same dice AGAIN?
But what if you're Bill TRUMP or Donald GATES?
--
ArWeMixedUp
Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 09 Oct 2004 00:03:51 GMT
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Zapanaz wrote:
>Out of the many new-age ideas that fill me with horror, the worst has
>to be reincarnation.
Only because you don't recall non-existance.
>I guess it is supposed to be reassuring, because if you believe in it
>you get to believe that you live forever. But MY "BOB", spend five
>minutes thinking about it logically.
>
>I mean, what, 99.9% of the world's population live in some war-torn,
>disease-ravaged third-world shithole. All the women have AIDS and all
>the food and water will give you dysentery. But it doesn't matter
>anyway because you belong to some superstiatious-ass boogah boogah
>religion which should have died in the jungle about the same time we
>developed opposable digits which the government enforces at gunpoint
>and which forbids you to fuck the women or eat any particularly good
>food. Even if you live in a theoretically advanced nation the odds
>are 99.9 to one that you will be born a complete FUCKING MORON,
>obssessed with trying to nail the Great American Dream and thus
>wasting your life in the endless backbiting passive-aggresive
>crypto-neurotic struggles with family, work, and the world that people
>snidely call "their lives" or, if you have been one of the very few to
>see the futilitiy of THAT, the odds are 99.9 to one that you have
>tried to get away from it by trying to REVERT to one of the boogah
>boogah religions of the "golden past".
>
>I can't imagine living a HUNDRED years ago. Life in Victorian times
>seems just unbearably ignorant and primitive. Just think, next time
>you are out on a nice sunny day somewhere public. And look at all the
>hottie women out there, dressed in "FUCK ME PLEASE" style . With me
>so far? A hundred years ago, people were GENUINELY OFFENDED by a
>bathing suit which allowed a woman's ANKLES to be seen. Do you get
>the picture? Talking bad about the church could get you thrown in
>jail, laws about "immorality" and "intemperance" were still the rule
>of the day.
>
>The past SUCKS.
To Be or not to Be, thats always the question. Suffer the slings and arrows
etc-
The joke is always on you.
>Now imagine the future. It's all crashing down around our heads.
>There's no way in hell the human race is going to wise up about the
>way we are fucking up and overpopulating the world and the
>rapidly-accelerating mega-crises that are just warming up now are
>going to be sliding down the hill like a tobaggon loaded with bowling
>balls very soon here. If you've seen "Let's visit the world of the
>future", I suspect that is probably not all that far off the mark.
>Another hundred years AHEAD of us, and I think we are going to have to
>raise humans the way we raise restaurant chickens now; stacked in
>little coops 6 high, pumping in liquid protein and pumping out waste
>products.
The only thing is, they've been saying similar things for 3000 years. (Which
granted, is nothing in cosmic time. Mankind is not even a blip on the screen)
>The odds are a ZILLION TO ONE AGAINST having life in the universe at
>all, and the odds of having been born in a relatively SLACKFUL life
>are another zillion to one against. The alternatives are all CRINGING
>HORRORS.
Wow- we need to rejoice! Now! We won the lotto!
>REINCARNATION? Throw those same dice AGAIN?
This presupposes no volition at all in the outcome. Many reincarnation ideas
include some kind of "plan" or "program" that everything moves according to an
inherent logic of some sort. I mean you don't really think man could accept
the possibility in ANY spiritual model that there just IS NO FUCKING PLAN and
yes, we're all SCREWED!
I mean hey, if we're going to invent an unsupported theory, might as well make
it a palatable one.
>not that I mean to be a downer or anything.
Rejoice! Mr. Cosby! Fuck those women! Eat, drink, and smoke merrily! You are
one of the top 1% of the world who can do absolutely nothing, and get away with
it!
--
IT ALL BECOMES MEANINGLESS IF YOU CUSS!
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:00:03 -0700
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On 09 Oct 2004 00:03:51 GMT, kdetal@aol.com (KD et al) wrote:
>Zapanaz wrote:
>
>>Out of the many new-age ideas that fill me with horror, the worst has
>>to be reincarnation.
>
>Only because you don't recall non-existance.
>
>>I guess it is supposed to be reassuring, because if you believe in it
>>you get to believe that you live forever. But MY "BOB", spend five
>>minutes thinking about it logically.
>>
>>I mean, what, 99.9% of the world's population live in some war-torn,
>>disease-ravaged third-world shithole. All the women have AIDS and all
>>the food and water will give you dysentery. But it doesn't matter
>>anyway because you belong to some superstiatious-ass boogah boogah
>>religion which should have died in the jungle about the same time we
>>developed opposable digits which the government enforces at gunpoint
>>and which forbids you to fuck the women or eat any particularly good
>>food. Even if you live in a theoretically advanced nation the odds
>>are 99.9 to one that you will be born a complete FUCKING MORON,
>>obssessed with trying to nail the Great American Dream and thus
>>wasting your life in the endless backbiting passive-aggresive
>>crypto-neurotic struggles with family, work, and the world that people
>>snidely call "their lives" or, if you have been one of the very few to
>>see the futilitiy of THAT, the odds are 99.9 to one that you have
>>tried to get away from it by trying to REVERT to one of the boogah
>>boogah religions of the "golden past".
>>
>>I can't imagine living a HUNDRED years ago. Life in Victorian times
>>seems just unbearably ignorant and primitive. Just think, next time
>>you are out on a nice sunny day somewhere public. And look at all the
>>hottie women out there, dressed in "FUCK ME PLEASE" style . With me
>>so far? A hundred years ago, people were GENUINELY OFFENDED by a
>>bathing suit which allowed a woman's ANKLES to be seen. Do you get
>>the picture? Talking bad about the church could get you thrown in
>>jail, laws about "immorality" and "intemperance" were still the rule
>>of the day.
>>
>>The past SUCKS.
>
>To Be or not to Be, thats always the question. Suffer the slings and arrows
>etc-
>The joke is always on you.
>
>
>>Now imagine the future. It's all crashing down around our heads.
>>There's no way in hell the human race is going to wise up about the
>>way we are fucking up and overpopulating the world and the
>>rapidly-accelerating mega-crises that are just warming up now are
>>going to be sliding down the hill like a tobaggon loaded with bowling
>>balls very soon here. If you've seen "Let's visit the world of the
>>future", I suspect that is probably not all that far off the mark.
>>Another hundred years AHEAD of us, and I think we are going to have to
>>raise humans the way we raise restaurant chickens now; stacked in
>>little coops 6 high, pumping in liquid protein and pumping out waste
>>products.
>
>The only thing is, they've been saying similar things for 3000 years. (Which
>granted, is nothing in cosmic time. Mankind is not even a blip on the screen)
>
>
>>The odds are a ZILLION TO ONE AGAINST having life in the universe at
>>all, and the odds of having been born in a relatively SLACKFUL life
>>are another zillion to one against. The alternatives are all CRINGING
>>HORRORS.
>
>Wow- we need to rejoice! Now! We won the lotto!
>
>
>>REINCARNATION? Throw those same dice AGAIN?
>
>This presupposes no volition at all in the outcome. Many reincarnation ideas
>include some kind of "plan" or "program" that everything moves according to an
>inherent logic of some sort. I mean you don't really think man could accept
>the possibility in ANY spiritual model that there just IS NO FUCKING PLAN and
>yes, we're all SCREWED!
>
>I mean hey, if we're going to invent an unsupported theory, might as well make
>it a palatable one.
>
Actually I went through this thing, this long series of dreams and
coincidences at one point ... I posted about it here somewhere in the
last couple of months, it is a very long story, I am too lazy to try
to Google for it right now ... anyway a bunch of seemingly unrelated
things came together in a very eerie way, the upshot was that one
quite valid interpretation of the whole thing was that I had
remembered previous lives and been reincarnated through them.
Anyway if the whole thing wasn't just swamp gas, the implication
seemed to be that there was, in fact, tremendous continuity from one
life to the next. Really viewed that way they all seemed to form one
single continuous life, kind of a meta-life.
I don't remember what got me going off about the above originally. I
think I saw some movie where they talked about reincarnation in a
typically dippy pop culture/new-age way.
There was some kind of point to the whole thing but I don't completely
remember why I decided to post something which I don't really believe,
the idea that people get reincarnated in a completely random way.
I suppose it's the mental image of somebody like me living in the
first world, scarfing 90% of the world's resources down our fat faces
without a glimmer of awareness of where we are in the world and why,
or what most of the world has to live with, people for whom what we
throw irritably away would constitute great riches. Not a glimmer of
awareness of it all. If a third-world country manages to get our
attention at all it PISSES PEOPLE OFF so they ATTACK it.
Over a period of something like a decade our sanctions in Iraq cost
tens of hundreds of thousands of life, besides whatever misery along
with that which didn't lead directly to death, and Joe Lunchpail
didn't have the vaguest idea. "Wut? Iraq? Well I'm sure whatever
we're going it's for a good reason. What's on channel eleventy six?"
The idea that these people would sit back happily and think "oh yeah,
I figure that when I die I will go to heaven prolly" or if they are of
the more new-agey persuasion "I will get reincarnated into a good
life" ... not that they would believe in it (although that's another
story) but that they would think that was RIGHT. That was the way
things ought to be.
That they would so utterly lack perspective on their place in the
world.
I suppose if there is any cosmic justice in reincarnation, it seems
like it would be clotheads like that who drop a step or two in the old
cosmic evolutionary food chain just to wake them up a little.
>
>>not that I mean to be a downer or anything.
>
>Rejoice! Mr. Cosby! Fuck those women! Eat, drink, and smoke merrily! You are
>one of the top 1% of the world who can do absolutely nothing, and get away with
>it!
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Frankly, nothing you can say will make the slightest difference in my
viewpoint, because I know what a deceptive person you are
- Blue Rajah
Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 30 Oct 2004 22:40:03 GMT
--------
Zapanaz wrote:
>On 09 Oct 2004 00:03:51 GMT, kdetal@aol.com (KD et al) wrote:
>
>>Zapanaz wrote:
>>
>>>Out of the many new-age ideas that fill me with horror, the worst has
>>>to be reincarnation.
>>
>>Only because you don't recall non-existance.
>>
>>>I guess it is supposed to be reassuring, because if you believe in it
>>>you get to believe that you live forever. But MY "BOB", spend five
>>>minutes thinking about it logically.
>>>
>>>I mean, what, 99.9% of the world's population live in some war-torn,
>>>disease-ravaged third-world shithole. All the women have AIDS and all
>>>the food and water will give you dysentery. But it doesn't matter
>>>anyway because you belong to some superstiatious-ass boogah boogah
>>>religion which should have died in the jungle about the same time we
>>>developed opposable digits which the government enforces at gunpoint
>>>and which forbids you to fuck the women or eat any particularly good
>>>food. Even if you live in a theoretically advanced nation the odds
>>>are 99.9 to one that you will be born a complete FUCKING MORON,
>>>obssessed with trying to nail the Great American Dream and thus
>>>wasting your life in the endless backbiting passive-aggresive
>>>crypto-neurotic struggles with family, work, and the world that people
>>>snidely call "their lives" or, if you have been one of the very few to
>>>see the futilitiy of THAT, the odds are 99.9 to one that you have
>>>tried to get away from it by trying to REVERT to one of the boogah
>>>boogah religions of the "golden past".
>>>
>>>I can't imagine living a HUNDRED years ago. Life in Victorian times
>>>seems just unbearably ignorant and primitive. Just think, next time
>>>you are out on a nice sunny day somewhere public. And look at all the
>>>hottie women out there, dressed in "FUCK ME PLEASE" style . With me
>>>so far? A hundred years ago, people were GENUINELY OFFENDED by a
>>>bathing suit which allowed a woman's ANKLES to be seen. Do you get
>>>the picture? Talking bad about the church could get you thrown in
>>>jail, laws about "immorality" and "intemperance" were still the rule
>>>of the day.
>>>
>>>The past SUCKS.
>>
>>To Be or not to Be, thats always the question. Suffer the slings and arrows
>>etc-
>>The joke is always on you.
>>
>>
>>>Now imagine the future. It's all crashing down around our heads.
>>>There's no way in hell the human race is going to wise up about the
>>>way we are fucking up and overpopulating the world and the
>>>rapidly-accelerating mega-crises that are just warming up now are
>>>going to be sliding down the hill like a tobaggon loaded with bowling
>>>balls very soon here. If you've seen "Let's visit the world of the
>>>future", I suspect that is probably not all that far off the mark.
>>>Another hundred years AHEAD of us, and I think we are going to have to
>>>raise humans the way we raise restaurant chickens now; stacked in
>>>little coops 6 high, pumping in liquid protein and pumping out waste
>>>products.
>>
>>The only thing is, they've been saying similar things for 3000 years.
>(Which
>>granted, is nothing in cosmic time. Mankind is not even a blip on the
>screen)
>>
>>
>>>The odds are a ZILLION TO ONE AGAINST having life in the universe at
>>>all, and the odds of having been born in a relatively SLACKFUL life
>>>are another zillion to one against. The alternatives are all CRINGING
>>>HORRORS.
>>
>>Wow- we need to rejoice! Now! We won the lotto!
>>
>>
>>>REINCARNATION? Throw those same dice AGAIN?
>>
>>This presupposes no volition at all in the outcome. Many reincarnation
>ideas
>>include some kind of "plan" or "program" that everything moves according to
>an
>>inherent logic of some sort. I mean you don't really think man could accept
>>the possibility in ANY spiritual model that there just IS NO FUCKING PLAN
>and
>>yes, we're all SCREWED!
>>
>>I mean hey, if we're going to invent an unsupported theory, might as well
>make
>>it a palatable one.
>>
>
>Actually I went through this thing, this long series of dreams and
>coincidences at one point ... I posted about it here somewhere in the
>last couple of months, it is a very long story, I am too lazy to try
>to Google for it right now ... anyway a bunch of seemingly unrelated
>things came together in a very eerie way, the upshot was that one
>quite valid interpretation of the whole thing was that I had
>remembered previous lives and been reincarnated through them.
>
>Anyway if the whole thing wasn't just swamp gas, the implication
>seemed to be that there was, in fact, tremendous continuity from one
>life to the next. Really viewed that way they all seemed to form one
>single continuous life, kind of a meta-life.
>
>I don't remember what got me going off about the above originally. I
>think I saw some movie where they talked about reincarnation in a
>typically dippy pop culture/new-age way.
>
>There was some kind of point to the whole thing but I don't completely
>remember why I decided to post something which I don't really believe,
>the idea that people get reincarnated in a completely random way.
>
>I suppose it's the mental image of somebody like me living in the
>first world, scarfing 90% of the world's resources down our fat faces
>without a glimmer of awareness of where we are in the world and why,
>or what most of the world has to live with, people for whom what we
>throw irritably away would constitute great riches. Not a glimmer of
>awareness of it all. If a third-world country manages to get our
>attention at all it PISSES PEOPLE OFF so they ATTACK it.
>
>Over a period of something like a decade our sanctions in Iraq cost
>tens of hundreds of thousands of life, besides whatever misery along
>with that which didn't lead directly to death, and Joe Lunchpail
>didn't have the vaguest idea. "Wut? Iraq? Well I'm sure whatever
>we're going it's for a good reason. What's on channel eleventy six?"
>
>The idea that these people would sit back happily and think "oh yeah,
>I figure that when I die I will go to heaven prolly" or if they are of
>the more new-agey persuasion "I will get reincarnated into a good
>life" ... not that they would believe in it (although that's another
>story) but that they would think that was RIGHT. That was the way
>things ought to be.
>
>That they would so utterly lack perspective on their place in the
>world.
>
>I suppose if there is any cosmic justice in reincarnation, it seems
>like it would be clotheads like that who drop a step or two in the old
>cosmic evolutionary food chain just to wake them up a little.
Jesus Christ, this post was a month ago.
--
Oh yeah? Well FUCK YOU.
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:00:33 -0700
--------
On 30 Oct 2004 22:40:03 GMT, kdetal@aol.com (KD et al) wrote:
>Jesus Christ, this post was a month ago.
i was thinking.
--
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International Satanic Conspiracy
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http://joecosby.com/
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Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 30 Oct 2004 23:36:54 GMT
--------
Zapanaz wrote:
>Jesus Christ, this post was a month ago.
>
>i was thinking.
>
always a mistake.
believe me, i know
--
Oh yeah? Well FUCK YOU.
Correspondent:: BabaNoodleRaman@snork.cx
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:21:23 -0600
--------
In , Zapanaz
wrote:
... snip ...
>The past SUCKS.
Yah, a hundred years ago, a Bush as governor or president wasn't even a
bad dream yet. Much less a recurring nightmare.
Tell me how much that sucked.
Correspondent:: drdark@37.com (DoktorDark)
Date: 31 Oct 2004 07:46:17 -0800
--------
Which is the very reason to follow the Sub-G dictum of living each day
as if "the world ends tomorrow & you may die". Don't just enjoy what
you have now, enjoy the HELL out of it!
Zapanaz wrote in message news:...
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 21:34:40 -0400, "iDRMRSR"
> wrote:
>
> >You know, when I see stories like this emanating out of places I don't give
> >a shit about, I wonder sometimes if there's anybody smart enough living
> >there that the minute they pop out of mommy, they look around and go "Ohhh
> >shit, this is EGYPT...OH NOOOO!!! FUCKING EGYPT!!!" and strangle themselves
> >with their own umbilical cords?
> >
>
> Out of the many new-age ideas that fill me with horror, the worst has
> to be reincarnation.
>
> I guess it is supposed to be reassuring, because if you believe in it
> you get to believe that you live forever. But MY "BOB", spend five
> minutes thinking about it logically.
>
> I mean, what, 99.9% of the world's population live in some war-torn,
> disease-ravaged third-world shithole. All the women have AIDS and all
> the food and water will give you dysentery. But it doesn't matter
> anyway because you belong to some superstiatious-ass boogah boogah
> religion which should have died in the jungle about the same time we
> developed opposable digits which the government enforces at gunpoint
> and which forbids you to fuck the women or eat any particularly good
> food. Even if you live in a theoretically advanced nation the odds
> are 99.9 to one that you will be born a complete FUCKING MORON,
> obssessed with trying to nail the Great American Dream and thus
> wasting your life in the endless backbiting passive-aggresive
> crypto-neurotic struggles with family, work, and the world that people
> snidely call "their lives" or, if you have been one of the very few to
> see the futilitiy of THAT, the odds are 99.9 to one that you have
> tried to get away from it by trying to REVERT to one of the boogah
> boogah religions of the "golden past".
>
> I can't imagine living a HUNDRED years ago. Life in Victorian times
> seems just unbearably ignorant and primitive. Just think, next time
> you are out on a nice sunny day somewhere public. And look at all the
> hottie women out there, dressed in "FUCK ME PLEASE" style . With me
> so far? A hundred years ago, people were GENUINELY OFFENDED by a
> bathing suit which allowed a woman's ANKLES to be seen. Do you get
> the picture? Talking bad about the church could get you thrown in
> jail, laws about "immorality" and "intemperance" were still the rule
> of the day.
>
> The past SUCKS.
>
> Now imagine the future. It's all crashing down around our heads.
> There's no way in hell the human race is going to wise up about the
> way we are fucking up and overpopulating the world and the
> rapidly-accelerating mega-crises that are just warming up now are
> going to be sliding down the hill like a tobaggon loaded with bowling
> balls very soon here. If you've seen "Let's visit the world of the
> future", I suspect that is probably not all that far off the mark.
> Another hundred years AHEAD of us, and I think we are going to have to
> raise humans the way we raise restaurant chickens now; stacked in
> little coops 6 high, pumping in liquid protein and pumping out waste
> products.
>
> The odds are a ZILLION TO ONE AGAINST having life in the universe at
> all, and the odds of having been born in a relatively SLACKFUL life
> are another zillion to one against. The alternatives are all CRINGING
> HORRORS.
>
> REINCARNATION? Throw those same dice AGAIN?
>
> not that I mean to be a downer or anything.