Proof that TV Preachers are arsewipes
Correspondent:: "Electric Tabbykat"
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:39:40 -0400
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Former HealthSouth CEO Scrushy turns televangelist (?!?!)
Tue Oct 26, 8:14 AM ET Business - USATODAY.com
By Greg Farrell, USA TODAY
http://tinyurl.com/5gu2l
When Martha Stewart was indicted, she turned to
Barbara Walters for a sympathetic broadcast interview.
When Ken Lay was indicted, he turned to Larry King.
But former HealthSouth (HLSH) CEO Richard Scrushy,
whose trial on charges stemming from a $2.7 billion
accounting fraud is scheduled to begin in January 2005,
is reaching out to a higher power: Jesus.
Postr: (Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahaha ---
hahhahahah!!!!!!!!! how phuckin predictable!)
Since March, Scrushy and his wife, Leslie, have been
hosting a half-hour talk show every weekday morning
on a local independent TV station here. Although Viewpoint
occasionally tackles subjects such as media bias and
self-improvement, Scrushy's bread-and-butter topic is the
Bible and the importance of following the word of God.
To that end, Scrushy books a steady stream of local
ministers and pastors as guests.
Scrushy, 52, used to attend church services in
Vestavia Hills, the affluent suburb where he lives.
But last year, around the time of his indictment,
he began attending the Guiding Light Church,
a ministry across town that caters primarily to
African-Americans.
Postr: (...this is better known as the "Robert Tilton" approach.
When you're a high profile CEO or similar publick figure what's
in trouble with the Law and the IRS, turn to the 'simple-minded
church goin darkies' -in their mind- on the 'other side' of the RR
crossing across town)
Early this year, Guiding Light purchased 12 months' worth of
airtime for the show. Scott Campbell, general manager of
WTTO Channel 21, would not disclose how much
Scrushy's church paid, but he says about 5,000 Birmingham
households tune in each morning. "This is a paid program,
just like the Ginsu knife commercials," Campbell says.
Critics of Scrushy's show see it as a cynical attempt to
generate goodwill among potential jurors in the
Birmingham area, which is about 70% African-American.
"I've never seen the show because I don't watch infomercials,"
says Doug Jones, the Birmingham attorney leading a
shareholder lawsuit against Scrushy. "It's clear that it's a jury
selection strategy, and I guess it will remain to be seen how
effective it might be."
Postr: (Bada-Bing Mr. Jones! U ge a cookie and a gold star)
Scrushy, who founded HealthSouth in 1984, was
ousted from his job last year after a criminal investigation
discovered accounting fraud of $2.7 billion. More than a
dozen former executives acknowledged participating in
the fraud before Alice Martin, the U.S. Attorney in
Birmingham, filed charges against Scrushy a year ago.
Last month, Martin announced a superseding indictment
against Scrushy that consolidated many of the securities
fraud charges leveled against him and added charges of
obstruction and perjury. Martin told a Rotary Club
luncheon in March that she doesn't watch Scrushy's
show, but that someone in her office tapes it every
day in case Scrushy says something that could be
used in court, according to The Birmingham News.
So far, Scrushy seems to have avoided discussing his case on TV.
Rusty Hardin, the Houston attorney who defended Enron
auditor Arthur Andersen against obstruction charges in
2002, says defendants have the right to use whatever
means necessary to define themselves to the public.
"I don't automatically disagree with people who decide
to use the media," he says. "The dilemma for somebody
like Scrushy is that the government uses official press
conferences to create an impression of people that they're
powerless to counteract unless they do something in response."
Through his spokesman, Charlie Russell, Scrushy condemned
the "defamation" campaign he said had been waged against
him, presumably by the U.S. Attorney's office, and
the "unfortunate media feeding frenzy" that lumped him
with other alleged business malefactors.
According to a statement from Russell, "Richard was raised in
a churchgoing family and was saved at age 11. He felt
called to the ministry at age 15 but put that call aside
when he moved into teaching and then business. He has regularly
attended church throughout his adult life and is married to
the daughter of a minister."
(Oh please give me a f--king break! Who's he gonna lap-dance
on the toob with next...Paul Crouch of TBN??)
Of his show, the statement says, "Viewpoint resulted from
Richard finding time on his hands while awaiting trial.
He sees the daily television program as a community
service, providing uplifting programming while providing
access to pastors and others performing essential services
in the community which could not find a voice on
ordinary commercial television." Viewpoint isn't devoid of ads.
Every morning, a 30-second commercial touts the services
of Alamerica Bank, a local lender. The star of the commercial
is bank Chairman Donald Watkins, a well-known Birmingham
lawyer and head of Scrushy's legal team.
To watch the show is to get a glimpse of Scrushy, the charismatic
leader. Most mornings, Viewpoint opens with a prayer from
Leslie Scrushy, but it is Richard who animates the program.
He's no stranger to the stage. While HealthSouth's CEO, he fronted
his band, Dallas County Line, cut a CD and took the band on
tour to Australia. At least some expenses were picked up by HealthSouth,
according to a court filing.
Scrushy also hosted a local radio show prior to his ouster last year,
starring himself and Jason Hervey, a former child actor who played Wayne
Arnold on The Wonder Years. Scrushy had hired Hervey as head of
communications for HealthSouth, and each Tuesday evening, they traded
banter on the air while calling each other "Cowboy" and "Gator."
Scrushy's utterances on Viewpoint run deeper than the idle radio chitchat
he and Hervey used to share. Some of his monologues on God sound like
speeches from his CEO days. During the Oct. 5 telecast, Scrushy talked
about the power of faith and belief, criticizing people who whine about
their circumstances, "talking and groaning and, 'I don't think I can do
this' ... rather than taking a positive attitude and realizing where they
need to be in Christ, and where they need to be every day in Scripture and
where they need to walk."
Scrushy's call to the Christian faithful sounded similar to the
motivational speech he gave to employees soon after founding HealthSouth in
1984. At that time, Scrushy complained that he and a few others were doing
all the work. He drew a rudimentary sketch of a wagon being pulled by two
people while bystanders watched.
The point, Scrushy argued then and many times afterward, was for all
HealthSouth employees to pull the wagon. The metaphor eventually defined
HealthSouth's self-image after a sculpture of a wagon and stick figures was
erected at the company's modern headquarters outside Birmingham.
"When we were called and given the opportunity to do this television show,"
Scrushy continued in the same telecast, "we called up some of our dear
friends and people we believe in. (They said,) 'You don't want to do that.
That's too much work. You'll be attacked.' They were right. You know what
those people are saying today? 'Thank God you did this.' We saw an
opportunity. We saw a ministry. This wasn't about Leslie and Richard. This
is about God."
Moments later, Scrushy delivered a message that would sound strange to the
enemies, real and perceived, he has accumulated in his career: "It's not
what people say about you that matters. It's what God sees in you that
matters."
That's a radically different message from the one found on Scrushy's own
Web site, www.richardmscrushy.com, which regularly blasts stories from the
local paper that he deems unfair. As CEO of HealthSouth, Scrushy took legal
action against people who criticized him. The Birmingham News reported that
in 1998, for example, Scrushy hired a private investigator to uncover the
identity of someone who criticized him and his family on an Internet
message board, and then sued that individual for libel.
Scrushy refused to be interviewed for this article. According to his
spokesman, the HealthSouth founder was unhappy with how he was portrayed in
a USA TODAY story last year that included a detailed description of his
lifestyle.
Scrushy loosed
For most of the past month, Scrushy has devoted his show to a 40-day prayer
movement in Birmingham dubbed "City, thou art loosed." The movement, an
ecumenical effort by various ministers to unite people, is supported by
Christian radio shows in the market and 18 billboards around the city. It
ends in a Nov. 1 prayer rally in downtown Birmingham.
One of the movement's organizers, Bishop Dusty Hammock of Point of Grace
Ministries, says that 40 years after Martin Luther King was imprisoned in a
Birmingham jail for his non-violent protests against segregation, the time
has come for unifying the city.
In early September, Hammock convened a luncheon for about 150 ministers and
pastors in the Birmingham area, and the daily prayer program began Sept. 3.
Hammock, a frequent TV guest of Scrushy's, says that when he told the
former CEO about his plans, Scrushy said, "I would like Viewpoint to be a
part of it." Hammock agreed, and Scrushy has devoted more than 30 shows to
the topic.
Asked whether Scrushy might be using him to improve his chances of winning
an acquittal at trial next year, Hammock says, "I've been asked that
question many times. Here's the way I look at it: Jesus did not categorize
people. Jesus did not say, 'I will hang out with these people, and I will
not hang out with those people.' For him, it was not a matter of guilt or
innocence. My interest is in Richard Scrushy as a person. My relationship
with him has nothing to do with his innocence or guilt. I feel like I'm
trying to honor that."
Scrushy's conduct as an evangelist contrasts with his old public behavior
as a self-promoting CEO. That man created images of himself, such as a
life-size statue of him erected at the HealthSouth Medical Center.
Before his ouster from HealthSouth, Scrushy contributed company funds to
various schools in the Birmingham area. According to a court filing by the
U.S. Attorney, Scrushy made the donations on the condition that a building
or library be named after him.
Scrushy's actions now show his legacy is still on his mind. He named his
infant son Jaden Malachi, an Old Testament name that means messenger of
God. According to his Web site, Scrushy's wife gave birth to the boy
(Scrushy's ninth child from three marriages) in September.
On his Oct. 5 show, Scrushy talks about raising children and laments the
materialism that has taken over society. He urges his viewers to think
twice about the advertising that bombards them.
"It's a real problem. If you can put God in your life, and you have a
church, you've got a pastor that is teaching and feeding you, you've filled
yourself with the spirit and accepted Christ, you become somebody else.
Once you are filled with the spirit, a lot of that stuff (advertising)
doesn't sink in anymore."
As a man who spent much of his business life accumulating the trappings of
wealth, Scrushy knows whereof he speaks. The government has tried to freeze
$278 million of Scrushy's assets, claiming that the money for them came
from years of illegally inflating HealthSouth's stock price. When he was
ousted from HealthSouth last year, he owned two airplanes, dozens of
automobiles, nine boats, several million dollars of jewelry that he had
bought for himself or his wife and properties valued at more than $22
million.
Despite the wealth and Scrushy's previous reputation, Hammock says he's
impressed with the man he's come to know the past year.
"I have spent a lot of time with Richard," he says. "I have seen extreme
genuineness. I've looked and I've found a genuine man, a very tender man, a
man who talks about his desires and dreams."
Trial by fire
At least one of Scrushy's dreams is to beat the government's allegations
that he masterminded the fraud uncovered at HealthSouth last year.
Scrushy's legal team, headed by Watkins, has filed a blizzard of legal
motions and challenges aimed at undercutting the government's case.
Scrushy's lawyers have argued against the legality of the Sarbanes-Oxley
Act, under which Scrushy has been charged, and questioned Martin's handling
of the grand jury investigation into wrongdoing at HealthSouth.
But one fact remains irrefutable: Martin has secured 17 cooperation
agreements from former HealthSouth employees, including plea agreements
from all five men who served as chief financial officer under Scrushy. It
is expected they will testify that Scrushy orchestrated the fraud at
HealthSouth.
Scrushy is ready for battle. Outside Guiding Light Church in a suburban
neighborhood beyond the Birmingham airport, where Scrushy attends Sunday
services and films his TV show, the message board displays the following
exhortation from Pastor Jim Lowe: "Don't abort your trial. God is about to
birth something great."
----------------------
"I found out that I was a Christian for revenue only
and I could not bear the thought of that, it was so ignoble."
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters
concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning
powers are not above the monkey's."
- both by Mark Twain in Eruption
"Some men worship rank, some worship
heroes, some worship power, some worship
God, & over these ideals they dispute & cannot
unite--but they all worship money."
- Mark Twain's Notebook
http://www.twainquotes.com/quotesatoz.html
Correspondent:: Miz Daisy Cutter
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:53:58 GMT
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In article ,
"Electric Tabbykat" wrote:
> But former HealthSouth (HLSH) CEO Richard Scrushy,
> whose trial on charges stemming from a $2.7 billion
> accounting fraud is scheduled to begin in January 2005,
> is reaching out to a higher power: Jesus.
>
> Postr: (Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahaha ---
> hahhahahah!!!!!!!!! how phuckin predictable!)
Well, usually they're in the orange jumpsuit and sharing a cell with
Bubba before they take to screaming "Oh, God! Oh, God!" every night.
-- Daze
--
I doubt you're the only person who's complained that the Saudis
don't have an international all-beheading cable TV/satellite
channel yet.
-- A. Lizard
Correspondent:: j w @yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:10:42 -0700
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x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:39:40 -0400, "Electric Tabbykat"
wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
>Former HealthSouth CEO Scrushy turns televangelist (?!?!)
>Tue Oct 26, 8:14 AM ET Business - USATODAY.com
>By Greg Farrell, USA TODAY
>
Kindly do not lump all TV preachers in the same ball of clay. I know
Dr. Charles Stanley (Prez of the S. Baptists), and he is a devout
Christian. Dr. Billy Graham also uses TV to reach the world with the
simple gospel.
Dr. Graham led me to Christ. And Dr. Stanley is one of the few
theologians who truly has it 99 % right.
If you catch him on the right day, Dr EV Hill, a renowned black
theologian-- and one of my seminary profs-- is an excellent
preacher/scholar.
They aren't all Jimmy Swagger/Benny Hinn phonies.
jw
>http://tinyurl.com/5gu2l
>
>When Martha Stewart was indicted, she turned to
>Barbara Walters for a sympathetic broadcast interview.
>When Ken Lay was indicted, he turned to Larry King.
>But former HealthSouth (HLSH) CEO Richard Scrushy,
>whose trial on charges stemming from a $2.7 billion
>accounting fraud is scheduled to begin in January 2005,
>is reaching out to a higher power: Jesus.
>
>Postr: (Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahaha ---
>hahhahahah!!!!!!!!! how phuckin predictable!)
>
>Since March, Scrushy and his wife, Leslie, have been
>hosting a half-hour talk show every weekday morning
>on a local independent TV station here. Although Viewpoint
>occasionally tackles subjects such as media bias and
>self-improvement, Scrushy's bread-and-butter topic is the
>Bible and the importance of following the word of God.
>To that end, Scrushy books a steady stream of local
>ministers and pastors as guests.
>
>Scrushy, 52, used to attend church services in
>Vestavia Hills, the affluent suburb where he lives.
>But last year, around the time of his indictment,
>he began attending the Guiding Light Church,
>a ministry across town that caters primarily to
>African-Americans.
>
>Postr: (...this is better known as the "Robert Tilton" approach.
>When you're a high profile CEO or similar publick figure what's
>in trouble with the Law and the IRS, turn to the 'simple-minded
>church goin darkies' -in their mind- on the 'other side' of the RR
>crossing across town)
>
>Early this year, Guiding Light purchased 12 months' worth of
>airtime for the show. Scott Campbell, general manager of
>WTTO Channel 21, would not disclose how much
>Scrushy's church paid, but he says about 5,000 Birmingham
>households tune in each morning. "This is a paid program,
>just like the Ginsu knife commercials," Campbell says.
>
>Critics of Scrushy's show see it as a cynical attempt to
>generate goodwill among potential jurors in the
>Birmingham area, which is about 70% African-American.
>"I've never seen the show because I don't watch infomercials,"
>says Doug Jones, the Birmingham attorney leading a
>shareholder lawsuit against Scrushy. "It's clear that it's a jury
>selection strategy, and I guess it will remain to be seen how
>effective it might be."
>
>Postr: (Bada-Bing Mr. Jones! U ge a cookie and a gold star)
>
>Scrushy, who founded HealthSouth in 1984, was
>ousted from his job last year after a criminal investigation
>discovered accounting fraud of $2.7 billion. More than a
>dozen former executives acknowledged participating in
>the fraud before Alice Martin, the U.S. Attorney in
>Birmingham, filed charges against Scrushy a year ago.
>
>Last month, Martin announced a superseding indictment
>against Scrushy that consolidated many of the securities
>fraud charges leveled against him and added charges of
>obstruction and perjury. Martin told a Rotary Club
>luncheon in March that she doesn't watch Scrushy's
>show, but that someone in her office tapes it every
>day in case Scrushy says something that could be
>used in court, according to The Birmingham News.
>So far, Scrushy seems to have avoided discussing his case on TV.
>
>Rusty Hardin, the Houston attorney who defended Enron
>auditor Arthur Andersen against obstruction charges in
>2002, says defendants have the right to use whatever
>means necessary to define themselves to the public.
>"I don't automatically disagree with people who decide
>to use the media," he says. "The dilemma for somebody
>like Scrushy is that the government uses official press
>conferences to create an impression of people that they're
>powerless to counteract unless they do something in response."
>
>Through his spokesman, Charlie Russell, Scrushy condemned
>the "defamation" campaign he said had been waged against
>him, presumably by the U.S. Attorney's office, and
>the "unfortunate media feeding frenzy" that lumped him
>with other alleged business malefactors.
>According to a statement from Russell, "Richard was raised in
>a churchgoing family and was saved at age 11. He felt
>called to the ministry at age 15 but put that call aside
>when he moved into teaching and then business. He has regularly
>attended church throughout his adult life and is married to
>the daughter of a minister."
>
>(Oh please give me a f--king break! Who's he gonna lap-dance
>on the toob with next...Paul Crouch of TBN??)
>
>Of his show, the statement says, "Viewpoint resulted from
>Richard finding time on his hands while awaiting trial.
>He sees the daily television program as a community
>service, providing uplifting programming while providing
>access to pastors and others performing essential services
>in the community which could not find a voice on
>ordinary commercial television." Viewpoint isn't devoid of ads.
>Every morning, a 30-second commercial touts the services
>of Alamerica Bank, a local lender. The star of the commercial
>is bank Chairman Donald Watkins, a well-known Birmingham
>lawyer and head of Scrushy's legal team.
>
>To watch the show is to get a glimpse of Scrushy, the charismatic
>leader. Most mornings, Viewpoint opens with a prayer from
>Leslie Scrushy, but it is Richard who animates the program.
>He's no stranger to the stage. While HealthSouth's CEO, he fronted
>his band, Dallas County Line, cut a CD and took the band on
>tour to Australia. At least some expenses were picked up by HealthSouth,
>according to a court filing.
>
>Scrushy also hosted a local radio show prior to his ouster last year,
>starring himself and Jason Hervey, a former child actor who played Wayne
>Arnold on The Wonder Years. Scrushy had hired Hervey as head of
>communications for HealthSouth, and each Tuesday evening, they traded
>banter on the air while calling each other "Cowboy" and "Gator."
>
>Scrushy's utterances on Viewpoint run deeper than the idle radio chitchat
>he and Hervey used to share. Some of his monologues on God sound like
>speeches from his CEO days. During the Oct. 5 telecast, Scrushy talked
>about the power of faith and belief, criticizing people who whine about
>their circumstances, "talking and groaning and, 'I don't think I can do
>this' ... rather than taking a positive attitude and realizing where they
>need to be in Christ, and where they need to be every day in Scripture and
>where they need to walk."
>
>Scrushy's call to the Christian faithful sounded similar to the
>motivational speech he gave to employees soon after founding HealthSouth in
>1984. At that time, Scrushy complained that he and a few others were doing
>all the work. He drew a rudimentary sketch of a wagon being pulled by two
>people while bystanders watched.
>
>The point, Scrushy argued then and many times afterward, was for all
>HealthSouth employees to pull the wagon. The metaphor eventually defined
>HealthSouth's self-image after a sculpture of a wagon and stick figures was
>erected at the company's modern headquarters outside Birmingham.
>
>"When we were called and given the opportunity to do this television show,"
>Scrushy continued in the same telecast, "we called up some of our dear
>friends and people we believe in. (They said,) 'You don't want to do that.
>That's too much work. You'll be attacked.' They were right. You know what
>those people are saying today? 'Thank God you did this.' We saw an
>opportunity. We saw a ministry. This wasn't about Leslie and Richard. This
>is about God."
>
>Moments later, Scrushy delivered a message that would sound strange to the
>enemies, real and perceived, he has accumulated in his career: "It's not
>what people say about you that matters. It's what God sees in you that
>matters."
>
>That's a radically different message from the one found on Scrushy's own
>Web site, www.richardmscrushy.com, which regularly blasts stories from the
>local paper that he deems unfair. As CEO of HealthSouth, Scrushy took legal
>action against people who criticized him. The Birmingham News reported that
>in 1998, for example, Scrushy hired a private investigator to uncover the
>identity of someone who criticized him and his family on an Internet
>message board, and then sued that individual for libel.
>
>Scrushy refused to be interviewed for this article. According to his
>spokesman, the HealthSouth founder was unhappy with how he was portrayed in
>a USA TODAY story last year that included a detailed description of his
>lifestyle.
>
>Scrushy loosed
>
>For most of the past month, Scrushy has devoted his show to a 40-day prayer
>movement in Birmingham dubbed "City, thou art loosed." The movement, an
>ecumenical effort by various ministers to unite people, is supported by
>Christian radio shows in the market and 18 billboards around the city. It
>ends in a Nov. 1 prayer rally in downtown Birmingham.
>
>One of the movement's organizers, Bishop Dusty Hammock of Point of Grace
>Ministries, says that 40 years after Martin Luther King was imprisoned in a
>Birmingham jail for his non-violent protests against segregation, the time
>has come for unifying the city.
>
>In early September, Hammock convened a luncheon for about 150 ministers and
>pastors in the Birmingham area, and the daily prayer program began Sept. 3.
>
>Hammock, a frequent TV guest of Scrushy's, says that when he told the
>former CEO about his plans, Scrushy said, "I would like Viewpoint to be a
>part of it." Hammock agreed, and Scrushy has devoted more than 30 shows to
>the topic.
>
>Asked whether Scrushy might be using him to improve his chances of winning
>an acquittal at trial next year, Hammock says, "I've been asked that
>question many times. Here's the way I look at it: Jesus did not categorize
>people. Jesus did not say, 'I will hang out with these people, and I will
>not hang out with those people.' For him, it was not a matter of guilt or
>innocence. My interest is in Richard Scrushy as a person. My relationship
>with him has nothing to do with his innocence or guilt. I feel like I'm
>trying to honor that."
>
>Scrushy's conduct as an evangelist contrasts with his old public behavior
>as a self-promoting CEO. That man created images of himself, such as a
>life-size statue of him erected at the HealthSouth Medical Center.
>
>Before his ouster from HealthSouth, Scrushy contributed company funds to
>various schools in the Birmingham area. According to a court filing by the
>U.S. Attorney, Scrushy made the donations on the condition that a building
>or library be named after him.
>
>Scrushy's actions now show his legacy is still on his mind. He named his
>infant son Jaden Malachi, an Old Testament name that means messenger of
>God. According to his Web site, Scrushy's wife gave birth to the boy
>(Scrushy's ninth child from three marriages) in September.
>
>On his Oct. 5 show, Scrushy talks about raising children and laments the
>materialism that has taken over society. He urges his viewers to think
>twice about the advertising that bombards them.
>
>"It's a real problem. If you can put God in your life, and you have a
>church, you've got a pastor that is teaching and feeding you, you've filled
>yourself with the spirit and accepted Christ, you become somebody else.
>Once you are filled with the spirit, a lot of that stuff (advertising)
>doesn't sink in anymore."
>
>As a man who spent much of his business life accumulating the trappings of
>wealth, Scrushy knows whereof he speaks. The government has tried to freeze
>$278 million of Scrushy's assets, claiming that the money for them came
>from years of illegally inflating HealthSouth's stock price. When he was
>ousted from HealthSouth last year, he owned two airplanes, dozens of
>automobiles, nine boats, several million dollars of jewelry that he had
>bought for himself or his wife and properties valued at more than $22
>million.
>
>Despite the wealth and Scrushy's previous reputation, Hammock says he's
>impressed with the man he's come to know the past year.
>
>"I have spent a lot of time with Richard," he says. "I have seen extreme
>genuineness. I've looked and I've found a genuine man, a very tender man, a
>man who talks about his desires and dreams."
>
>Trial by fire
>
>At least one of Scrushy's dreams is to beat the government's allegations
>that he masterminded the fraud uncovered at HealthSouth last year.
>
>Scrushy's legal team, headed by Watkins, has filed a blizzard of legal
>motions and challenges aimed at undercutting the government's case.
>Scrushy's lawyers have argued against the legality of the Sarbanes-Oxley
>Act, under which Scrushy has been charged, and questioned Martin's handling
>of the grand jury investigation into wrongdoing at HealthSouth.
>
>But one fact remains irrefutable: Martin has secured 17 cooperation
>agreements from former HealthSouth employees, including plea agreements
>from all five men who served as chief financial officer under Scrushy. It
>is expected they will testify that Scrushy orchestrated the fraud at
>HealthSouth.
>
>Scrushy is ready for battle. Outside Guiding Light Church in a suburban
>neighborhood beyond the Birmingham airport, where Scrushy attends Sunday
>services and films his TV show, the message board displays the following
>exhortation from Pastor Jim Lowe: "Don't abort your trial. God is about to
>birth something great."
>
>----------------------
>
>"I found out that I was a Christian for revenue only
>and I could not bear the thought of that, it was so ignoble."
>
>"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters
>concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning
>powers are not above the monkey's."
>
>- both by Mark Twain in Eruption
>
>"Some men worship rank, some worship
>heroes, some worship power, some worship
>God, & over these ideals they dispute & cannot
>unite--but they all worship money."
>
>- Mark Twain's Notebook
>
>http://www.twainquotes.com/quotesatoz.html
>
God bless!
j w
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:56:35 GMT
--------
In article <8ck2o0psr92s1oefcsqb30qrvbukuer7tg@4ax.com>,
j w @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kindly do not lump all TV preachers in the same ball of clay. I know
> Dr. Charles Stanley (Prez of the S. Baptists), and he is a devout
> Christian. Dr. Billy Graham also uses TV to reach the world with the
> simple gospel.
> Dr. Graham led me to Christ. And Dr. Stanley is one of the few
> theologians who truly has it 99 % right.
> If you catch him on the right day, Dr EV Hill, a renowned black
> theologian-- and one of my seminary profs-- is an excellent
> preacher/scholar.
> They aren't all Jimmy Swagger/Benny Hinn phonies.
Overall, after all too many years of observation, I feel motivated to
say that Christianity as generally practiced on a public level makes me
want to stand under a South American waterfall for 40 days and nights
under the watchful eye of the Brujeria and wash away the effects of my
baptism. Nothing personal; I'm just as puking-sick of the self-righteous
as I am of the giggling "sinners." I'd go surfin' with Jesus any day,
but I can't stand the ratty club the smug neo-martyrs have devised in
His good name. I hope He sues you to Gethsemane and back for defamation
of character. Saguaro cactus suppositories for everyone who pins a Cross
to their lapel so they can show off their faux purity, that's MY motto,
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
--
HellPope Huey
Douche or turd sandwich,
your vote still counts, maybe
America is the only country
that went from barbarism to decadence
without civilization in between.
- Oscar Wilde
"Oral sex should be an Olympic sport,
because its harder than curling
and if you're any good at it,
you deserve a medal."
- Lewis Black
Correspondent:: j w @yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:36:47 -0700
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:56:35 GMT, HellPope Huey
wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
>In article <8ck2o0psr92s1oefcsqb30qrvbukuer7tg@4ax.com>,
> j w @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Kindly do not lump all TV preachers in the same ball of clay. I know
>> Dr. Charles Stanley (Prez of the S. Baptists), and he is a devout
>> Christian. Dr. Billy Graham also uses TV to reach the world with the
>> simple gospel.
>> Dr. Graham led me to Christ. And Dr. Stanley is one of the few
>> theologians who truly has it 99 % right.
>> If you catch him on the right day, Dr EV Hill, a renowned black
>> theologian-- and one of my seminary profs-- is an excellent
>> preacher/scholar.
>> They aren't all Jimmy Swagger/Benny Hinn phonies.
>
> Overall, after all too many years of observation, I feel motivated to
>say that Christianity as generally practiced on a public level makes me
>want to stand under a South American waterfall for 40 days and nights
>under the watchful eye of the Brujeria and wash away the effects of my
>baptism. Nothing personal; I'm just as puking-sick of the self-righteous
>as I am of the giggling "sinners." I'd go surfin' with Jesus any day,
>but I can't stand the ratty club the smug neo-martyrs have devised in
>His good name. I hope He sues you to Gethsemane and back for defamation
>of character. Saguaro cactus suppositories for everyone who pins a Cross
>to their lapel so they can show off their faux purity, that's MY motto,
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
No one I know is perfect... except you.
Christianity is for the sinner, not for you who are perfect.
jw
God bless!
j w
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:43:02 GMT
--------
In article ,
j w @yahoo.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:56:35 GMT, HellPope Huey
> wrote:
> > Overall, after all too many years of observation, I feel motivated to
> >say that Christianity as generally practiced on a public level makes me
> >want to stand under a South American waterfall for 40 days and nights
> >under the watchful eye of the Brujeria and wash away the effects of my
> >baptism. Nothing personal; I'm just as puking-sick of the self-righteous
> >as I am of the giggling "sinners." I'd go surfin' with Jesus any day,
> >but I can't stand the ratty club the smug neo-martyrs have devised in
> >His good name. I hope He sues you to Gethsemane and back for defamation
> >of character. Saguaro cactus suppositories for everyone who pins a Cross
> >to their lapel so they can show off their faux purity, that's MY motto,
> >BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
>
> No one I know is perfect... except you.
>>Christianity is for the sinner, not for you who are perfect.
>God bless!
>j w
Get down off the cross, honey, somebody needs the wood.
--
HellPope Huey
Douche or turd sandwich,
your vote still counts, maybe
America is the only country
that went from barbarism to decadence
without civilization in between.
- Oscar Wilde
"Oral sex should be an Olympic sport,
because its harder than curling
and if you're any good at it,
you deserve a medal."
- Lewis Black
Correspondent:: Nivlem
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:31:06 -0800
--------
j w
> x-no-archive: yes
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:39:40 -0400, "Electric Tabbykat"
> wrote:
> copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
> group)
>
>>Former HealthSouth CEO Scrushy turns televangelist (?!?!)
>>Tue Oct 26, 8:14 AM ET Business - USATODAY.com
>>By Greg Farrell, USA TODAY
>>
>
> Kindly do not lump all TV preachers in the same ball of clay. I know
> Dr. Charles Stanley (Prez of the S. Baptists), and he is a devout
> Christian.
By your standards as revealed in some of your other postings, this means
he thinks every idea conceived after 1500 AD is the work of the devil.
You may not realize it, but that's hardly a ringing endorsement of his
character.
Dr. Billy Graham also uses TV to reach the world with the
> simple gospel.
And got filthy rich doing so. Doesn't that strike you as a bit odd?
>
> Dr. Graham led me to Christ. And Dr. Stanley is one of the few
> theologians who truly has it 99 % right.
How the hell would you know if he had it 99%? Were you there when any of
the supposed events ocurred?
>
> If you catch him on the right day, Dr EV Hill, a renowned black
> theologian-- and one of my seminary profs-- is an excellent
> preacher/scholar.
>
And on the wrong day he's cruising about in a Buick Electra 225 offering
little girls bags of candy, I suppose?
> They aren't all Jimmy Swagger/Benny Hinn phonies.
>
Quite so. Some of them are just Nazis wrapped in the cloth.
> jw
>
>