Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:44:44 GMT
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An Army Reserve platoon deployed to Iraq refused what they called a
"suicide mission" because their vehicles were considered deadlined (in
extremely unsafe condition).
All 17 members of the 343rd Quartermaster Company were arrested and are
being held facing dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of pay and up to
five years confinement.
The quotes from families of the soldiers involved were interesting:
Patricia McCook said her husband, a staff sergeant, understands well the
severity of disobeying orders. But he did not feel comfortable taking
his soldiers on another trip.
"He told me that three of the vehicles they were to use were deadlines
... not safe to go in a hotbed like that," Patricia McCook said.
Hill said the trucks her daughter’s unit was driving could not top 40 mph.
"They knew there was a 99 percent chance they were going to get ambushed
or fired at," Hill said her daughter told her. "They would have had no
way to fight back."
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:02 -0700
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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>
> An Army Reserve platoon deployed to Iraq refused
> what they called a "suicide mission" because their
> vehicles were considered deadlined (in extremely
> unsafe condition)...
I've read several accounts of this, and I've a few
comments.
1) Actually, this is the *third* such incident.
The first involved a field commander (Col.) who
was relieved for not being "aggressive enough" in
taking his unit into an area he believed was too
hot. His unit had already been through much hot
combat, but he put his foot down and was relieved.
2) The second incident involved a unit that was
allegedly used to "draw fire", and became resentful
of that. That was handled at a local level, the
unit was broken up and its personnel sent elsewhere
on less combattive missions. (Which basically meant
that "yes, you were being misused, so to minimize
the effects all around, it won't happen to you again",
which solves a myriad of problems.)
3) And *that* leads to this unit, whose primary
mistake was not what they did, but how they did it,
I suspect. Vehicles can be "redlined" for all sorts
of petty stuff: you'll note that they were still
"driveable", or this would have been a moot point.
However, how hard is it to disable your vehicle to
make it undriveable?
Now compare the punishment, even if you are caught,
for screwing up your own truck *compared* to dissing
an officer by refusing an order.
Their other problem was a lack of armed escort, which
is a big deal to a very lightly protected unit. The
usual way they would get around that problem would be
to start having "breakdowns" en route; OR, as soon as
they left their post, start to call on the radio that
they had contacted the enemy and needed support.
If their command *then* refused to provide them support,
then the unit could "retreat", claiming superior enemy
numbers--and it would be their command's fault.
But in this case, at some point, their staff sergeant
leader walked up to an officer an *refused* his order,
which made him *totally* wrong, NO MATTER WHAT the
other circumstances were.
And *this* major boo-boo was *compounded* by one or
two members of that unit calling home to complain.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! Had it been
kept "in house", eventually cooler heads would have
prevailed and done here much the same as was done with
unit #2 above.
So I would guess that somebody is going to be doing some
hard time over this. And their rank will be staff
sergeant or below.
--
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by the short rabbits and can now deliver you
violently to your gynecologist for a thorough
extermination.
-- Hong Kong movie subtitle
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:11:07 GMT
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nu-monet v7.0 wrote:
> So I would guess that somebody is going to be doing some
> hard time over this. And their rank will be staff
> sergeant or below.
Isn't that always how it seems to work out?
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:22:01 -0700
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:02 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
wrote:
>However, how hard is it to disable your vehicle to
>make it undriveable?
Yeah I guess you are an officer. If the vehicles are deadlined, it
MUST be because they sabotaged them themselves. Now go do your PMCS!
--
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Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:22:48 -0700
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Zapanaz wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:02 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
> wrote:
>
> >However, how hard is it to disable your vehicle to
> >make it undriveable?
>
> Yeah I guess you are an officer. If the vehicles
> are deadlined, it MUST be because they sabotaged
> them themselves. Now go do your PMCS!
No, you missed that one completely.
The smart thing for them to do, if ordered to do
something really goddamn dumb, is to throw the match.
If to get themselves killed, they have to get in their
trucks and drive somewhere, the *obvious* thing for
them to do is fuck up their own trucks. It's the
*smart* thing for them to do.
But the dumbasses *instead* said the equivalent of
"No! And you can't make me!" Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
With a little time, a good private or NCO should be
able to shirk with the best of them. Dammit, what
the hell are they teaching these kids today?
If your boss hands you a spoon and tells you to go
into a underground complex and kill a hundred mutant
zombie ninjas, do you do it? FUCK NO. You fake an
epileptic seizure until he goes away and gets some
other sucker. You DON'T tell him that you don't
fucking care that he's a fucking General or whatever
and that you AIN'T GONNA DO IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T FEEL
LIKE DOING IT.
if you tell him to fnork himself, you will either be
coerced into fighting them mutant ninja zombies OR
spend the rest of your fucking life in Leavenworth.
how dumb does a private have to be not to appreciate
this simple fact? And, if they are that dumb,
shouldn't they be the one given the spoon? I have
little sympathy for the spoon-carriers of the world.
--
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the means to an end, being the end itself,
and being in the middle of the end: it is
the riddle of the sphincter.
Correspondent:: "Anachron" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:17:40 GMT
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"nu-monet v7.0" wrote in message
news:41705BC8.8C9@succeeds.com...
> Zapanaz wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:02 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
> > wrote:
> Because-------------------------------------------->
>
> if you fake a seizure, they will put you on a nice
> stretcher and evac you on a nice aircraft, AND pay
> you disability for the rest of your life.
>
Never worked for Klinger. Catch-22 you know.
--
Rev. Anachron
Correspondent:: "ghost" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:35:02 GMT
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"nu-monet v7.0" wrote
(snip)
> how dumb does a private have to be not to appreciate
> this simple fact? And, if they are that dumb,
> shouldn't they be the one given the spoon? I have
> little sympathy for the spoon-carriers of the world.
Have you actually MET any of these hi skool graduates who are enlistment
bait?
They STOOPID. Smart people don't want to be privates.
Correspondent:: wbarwell Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 03:27:39 -0400
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ghost wrote:
>
> "nu-monet v7.0" wrote
>
> (snip)
>
>> how dumb does a private have to be not to appreciate
>> this simple fact? And, if they are that dumb,
>> shouldn't they be the one given the spoon? I have
>> little sympathy for the spoon-carriers of the world.
>
>
> Have you actually MET any of these hi skool graduates who are enlistment
> bait?
>
> They STOOPID. Smart people don't want to be privates.
Apparently not so stupid they are going out to die for AWOL
Bush and Rummydum the Magnificent.
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 06:25:08 -0700
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wbarwell wrote:
>
> ghost wrote:
>
> >
> > "nu-monet v7.0" wrote
> >
> > (snip)
> >
> >> how dumb does a private have to be not to appreciate
> >> this simple fact? And, if they are that dumb,
> >> shouldn't they be the one given the spoon? I have
> >> little sympathy for the spoon-carriers of the world.
> >
> >
> > Have you actually MET any of these hi skool graduates
> > who are enlistment bait?
> >
> > They STOOPID. Smart people don't want to be privates.
>
> Apparently not so stupid they are going out to die for AWOL
> Bush and Rummydum the Magnificent.
You mean the .01% that died?
--
"YOU BELONG TO US NOW!"
"GET DOWN WITH MY SICKNESS!!"
--Kino Beman, brand name
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 17 Oct 2004 16:49:54 GMT
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>They STOOPID. Smart people don't want to be privates.
I don;t know, I think most people like their privates.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:56:51 -0700
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On 17 Oct 2004 16:49:54 GMT, mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard
Skull) wrote:
>>They STOOPID. Smart people don't want to be privates.
>
>I don;t know, I think most people like their privates.
I think most people ARE their privates.
--
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International Satanic Conspiracy
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I want whatever sort of credit card the Vikings are using."
Kibo
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:17:45 -0700
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:22:48 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
wrote:
>Zapanaz wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:02 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
>> wrote:
>>
>> >However, how hard is it to disable your vehicle to
>> >make it undriveable?
>>
>> Yeah I guess you are an officer. If the vehicles
>> are deadlined, it MUST be because they sabotaged
>> them themselves. Now go do your PMCS!
>
>No, you missed that one completely.
>
>The smart thing for them to do, if ordered to do
>something really goddamn dumb, is to throw the match.
>
>If to get themselves killed, they have to get in their
>trucks and drive somewhere, the *obvious* thing for
>them to do is fuck up their own trucks. It's the
>*smart* thing for them to do.
>
well the thing is, that -is- what they did. Or their trucks were
fucked up, for whatever reason, that was what they were saying.
The trucks are deadlined but they are telling them to go anyway.
Which is not unusual. The rules are what the MFIC thinks they are.
>But the dumbasses *instead* said the equivalent of
>"No! And you can't make me!" Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
>
>With a little time, a good private or NCO should be
>able to shirk with the best of them. Dammit, what
>the hell are they teaching these kids today?
>
>If your boss hands you a spoon and tells you to go
>into a underground complex and kill a hundred mutant
>zombie ninjas, do you do it? FUCK NO. You fake an
>epileptic seizure until he goes away and gets some
>other sucker. You DON'T tell him that you don't
>fucking care that he's a fucking General or whatever
>and that you AIN'T GONNA DO IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T FEEL
>LIKE DOING IT.
>
>Because-------------------------------------------->
>
>if you fake a seizure, they will put you on a nice
>stretcher and evac you on a nice aircraft, AND pay
>you disability for the rest of your life.
>
>BUT----------------------------------------------->
>
>if you tell him to fnork himself, you will either be
>coerced into fighting them mutant ninja zombies OR
>spend the rest of your fucking life in Leavenworth.
>
>Now------------------------------------------------>
>
>how dumb does a private have to be not to appreciate
>this simple fact? And, if they are that dumb,
>shouldn't they be the one given the spoon? I have
>little sympathy for the spoon-carriers of the world.
Two really good ways to shirk in combat:
1. The General isn't out on the battlefield. That's why he's a
general (and why he's sending you on a dumbass get-your-ass-shot-off
mission in the first place).
OOPS, WE LOST OUR WAY AGAIN! GOL GOSH DARN IT!
The little needle on the compass points south. Doesn't it? We're
supposed to multiply distances on these darn metric maps by 10, aren't
we? That's what "metric" means. Multiply by 10. Gosh elevation
features sure all look the same in the desert, don't they? The brown
lines mean rivers and the blue lines mean hills, right? TURN LEFT AT
THE SAND DUNE GOD DAMN IT.
They can SHOOT you for refusing to face the enemy in combat. But they
won't shoot you for being STUPID. Let "Bob" be your guide. They'll
WANT to get rid of you. Especially after you really royally flub a
few fire missions and scare the crap out of the Marines with a few
short rounds.
Marines get so touchy.
It isn't as easy as I make it sound though. They don't have to prove
you're faking stupid, they just have to believe it, to court martial
you. You need some acting skills, and you need the other guys in your
truck/track/tank/squad to back you up.
Well I'll be damned. That was a whorehouse, and not an enemy command
bunker? I wondered why all those terrorists were so eager to give us
blow jobs. And, for that matter, why they were all girls.
2. You have a General Patton who IS out on the battlefield.
You divide ranges on these new metric grenade launchers by 10, don't
you? That's what "metric" means. Divide by 10.
Where's the general? I see his boots, but the rest of him is missing.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Look in a mirror all your life and you will see death at work; like bees in a hive of glass
- Cocteau
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 15 Oct 2004 23:32:13 GMT
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>3) And *that* leads to this unit, whose primary
>mistake was not what they did, but how they did it,
>I suspect. Vehicles can be "redlined" for all sorts
>of petty stuff: you'll note that they were still
>"driveable", or this would have been a moot point.
>
As someone who has LOTS experiace with TAMS (The Army Maintenance Management
System) I can say that under "combat" condition, the local commander can call
just about anything "FMC" (Fully Mission Capable).
A short word, the Army has been rotaing Troops. But the equipment being used
has been over there for almost a year under harsh consditions as well as
combat.
The sand in that area eats gears, enginesm etc up becuase it fine and extreamly
hard.
After Gulf War I, most of the equipment used experiance a Delayed problem of
this sand getting into the trannies nad differentals and tearing them up. So
two years after that war, the trucks and tanks were still suffering the after
effects.
And the SOP for a convoy in an ambush is to get the hell out of the kill zone
as fast as possible and only fight is the ways blocked.
So worn out trucks held together with bailing wire adn 90 mile an hour tape
will probally be sitting ducks.
There is a severe shortage of parts as well as "persoanl demande items" (soap,
Tampons, razer blades, toliet paper) in Iraq. Despite the millions given
Haliburtan to support theoperation, theycannot manage to supply enough spare
parts to keep up with demand.
The Moose Lodge in Smyrna, DE has a huge sign up for theur "Adpot a soilder"
program. Where they give you a list of items like soap. soxs, etc that the
troops need. My question is WHY THE FUCK DON;T THEY HAVE THESE THINGS? In the
old dasy, before then Sec. of Defense Cheney "privatised" logistical support,
the army always managed ot get most of this stuff to their troops.
>So I would guess that somebody is going to be doing some
>hard time over this. And their rank will be staff
>sergeant or below.
>
Actuall the fact it was a mass mutany is what raises my eye brows! A whole Army
unit defying orders!
By the way, the attacks in the green zone are not new. Just the first to
actually cuase casualties. Reports say that since the Iraqi's have taken over
Green Zone Secuity, these security fiascos are now the rule.
And the Maines "raided" Sadr City the other day only to find out that the whole
place was deserted. everyone was tipped off to the upcoming raid.
Hmm. Iraqification sure is making a differance!
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:06:31 GMT
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"Rev. Richard Skull" wrote:
> >3) And *that* leads to this unit, whose primary
> >mistake was not what they did, but how they did it,
> >I suspect. Vehicles can be "redlined" for all sorts
> >of petty stuff: you'll note that they were still
> >"driveable", or this would have been a moot point.
> >
>
> As someone who has LOTS experiace with TAMS (The Army Maintenance Management
> System) I can say that under "combat" condition, the local commander can call
> just about anything "FMC" (Fully Mission Capable).
>
> A short word, the Army has been rotaing Troops. But the equipment being used
> has been over there for almost a year under harsh consditions as well as
> combat.
>
> The sand in that area eats gears, enginesm etc up becuase it fine and extreamly
> hard.
>
> After Gulf War I, most of the equipment used experiance a Delayed problem of
> this sand getting into the trannies nad differentals and tearing them up. So
> two years after that war, the trucks and tanks were still suffering the after
> effects.
>
> And the SOP for a convoy in an ambush is to get the hell out of the kill zone
> as fast as possible and only fight is the ways blocked.
>
> So worn out trucks held together with bailing wire adn 90 mile an hour tape
> will probally be sitting ducks.
>
> There is a severe shortage of parts as well as "persoanl demande items" (soap,
> Tampons, razer blades, toliet paper) in Iraq. Despite the millions given
> Haliburtan to support theoperation, theycannot manage to supply enough spare
> parts to keep up with demand.
>
> The Moose Lodge in Smyrna, DE has a huge sign up for theur "Adpot a soilder"
> program. Where they give you a list of items like soap. soxs, etc that the
> troops need. My question is WHY THE FUCK DON;T THEY HAVE THESE THINGS? In the
> old dasy, before then Sec. of Defense Cheney "privatised" logistical support,
> the army always managed ot get most of this stuff to their troops.
>
> >So I would guess that somebody is going to be doing some
> >hard time over this. And their rank will be staff
> >sergeant or below.
> >
>
> Actuall the fact it was a mass mutany is what raises my eye brows! A whole Army
> unit defying orders!
>
> By the way, the attacks in the green zone are not new. Just the first to
> actually cuase casualties. Reports say that since the Iraqi's have taken over
> Green Zone Secuity, these security fiascos are now the rule.
>
> And the Maines "raided" Sadr City the other day only to find out that the whole
> place was deserted. everyone was tipped off to the upcoming raid.
>
> Hmm. Iraqification sure is making a differance!
>
> MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
>
> "War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
>
> Charles E. Montague
Sand in the trannies?
I thought they said "Don't ask, don't tell!"
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 17 Oct 2004 16:53:30 GMT
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> Sand in the trannies?
>
> I thought they said "Don't ask, don't tell!"
>
No, thats lube up the poop chute.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: Rev DJ Epoch Date: 19 Oct 2004 12:19:56 GMT
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mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull) wrote in
news:20041017125330.17534.00001574@mb-m20.aol.com:
>> Sand in the trannies?
>>
>> I thought they said "Don't ask, don't tell!"
>>
>
> No, thats lube up the poop chute.
>
>
And so begat the phrase "Pound sand up your ass".
--
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Correspondent:: "Anachron" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:29:02 GMT
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I would like to see this happen more often. What do the Neocons say about
"supporting the troops" when the troops stop supporting the troops? Can a
'vets against the war' be far behind? Only problem here they can't seem to
get back home for some strange reason. Must be having too much fun on
vacation in Iraq.
--
Rev. Anachron
Correspondent:: polar bear Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:02:40 -0700
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In article , "Anachron"
wrote:
> I would like to see this happen more often. What do the Neocons say about
> "supporting the troops" when the troops stop supporting the troops? Can a
> 'vets against the war' be far behind? Only problem here they can't seem to
> get back home for some strange reason. Must be having too much fun on
> vacation in Iraq.
This thing is coming apart for exactly the same reasons Vietnam came
apart. The only difference is the time scale.
pb
Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.com (AssCo Assc)
Date: 16 Oct 2004 23:01:17 GMT
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What if there was a war and nobody went?
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:21:16 GMT
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AssCo Assc wrote:
> What if there was a war and nobody went?
They'd probably settle it with a robot fight instead.
I'm serious.
Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 17 Oct 2004 01:07:56 GMT
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>AssCo Assc wrote:
>> What if there was a war and nobody went?
>
>They'd probably settle it with a robot fight instead.
They already do.
>I'm serious.
So am I. Think about it..
--
"As life's constants become relativized, all the certainties we live by become
frighteningly unpredictable for awhile. The payoff, of course, is insight."
Bernard Barrs, 'In the Theatre of Consciousness'
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:44:53 GMT
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KD et al wrote:
>>AssCo Assc wrote:
>>> What if there was a war and nobody went?
>>
>>They'd probably settle it with a robot fight instead.
>
> They already do.
Human robots don't count.
Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 17 Oct 2004 02:39:19 GMT
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>KD et al wrote:
>>>AssCo Assc wrote:
>>>> What if there was a war and nobody went?
>>>
>>>They'd probably settle it with a robot fight instead.
>>
>> They already do.
>
>Human robots don't count.
Exactly.
--
"As life's constants become relativized, all the certainties we live by become
frighteningly unpredictable for awhile. The payoff, of course, is insight."
Bernard Barrs, 'In the Theatre of Consciousness'
Correspondent:: "ghost" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:26:45 GMT
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"KD et al" wrote in message
news:20041016223919.01852.00002103@mb-m13.aol.com...
> >KD et al wrote:
> >>>AssCo Assc wrote:
> >>>> What if there was a war and nobody went?
> >>>
> >>>They'd probably settle it with a robot fight instead.
> >>
> >> They already do.
> >
> >Human robots don't count.
>
> Exactly.
>
>
Every time you respond to a post with the one word "Exactly." you have to
pay Bob Dean a quarter.
He's saving up to do laundry.
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:14:29 -0700
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:26:45 GMT, "ghost" wrote:
>
>"KD et al" wrote in message
>news:20041016223919.01852.00002103@mb-m13.aol.com...
>> >KD et al wrote:
>> >>>AssCo Assc wrote:
>> >>>> What if there was a war and nobody went?
>> >>>
>> >>>They'd probably settle it with a robot fight instead.
>> >>
>> >> They already do.
>> >
>> >Human robots don't count.
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>>
>
>Every time you respond to a post with the one word "Exactly." you have to
>pay Bob Dean a quarter.
>
>He's saving up to do laundry.
>
OOK!!!
He copped that from me. She does owe deanboil a quarter but then he
has to pay me a dime, and a nickel to the lawyers. and a buck to the
net cops (duxors)
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arguing on the internet
is like running in the Special Olympics
even if you win, you're still a retard
Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 17 Oct 2004 14:33:25 GMT
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Zapanaz wrote:
>Every time you respond to a post with the one word "Exactly." you have to
>>pay Bob Dean a quarter.
>>
>>He's saving up to do laundry.
>>
>
>OOK!!!
>
>He copped that from me. She does owe deanboil a quarter but then he
>has to pay me a dime, and a nickel to the lawyers. and a buck to the
>net cops (duxors)
Oh sure, shyster the new girl.
Thats right, I verbified a noun. So sue me.
--
"As life's constants become relativized, all the certainties we live by become
frighteningly unpredictable for awhile. The payoff, of course, is insight."
Bernard Barrs, 'In the Theatre of Consciousness'
Correspondent:: "NeuroManson" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:11:47 GMT
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"Cardinal Vertigo" wrote in message
news:0Wicd.18062$Qv5.942@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> AssCo Assc wrote:
> > What if there was a war and nobody went?
>
> They'd probably settle it with a robot fight instead.
>
> I'm serious.
Monkeys with knives. I'm all for monkeys with knives. Besides that, you can
run and win a betting pool on it.
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0" Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:44:15 -0700
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AssCo Assc wrote:
>
> What if there was a war and nobody went?
No problem. Free delivery.
--
"Getting shot at was not that bad,
just the getting shot part sucked"
-- U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Villafane
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 17 Oct 2004 16:54:32 GMT
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>What if there was a war and nobody went?
>
They'd pass a law making you go!
All while hiding in their secret bunkers under the Posh resort in West
Virginia!
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: Zapanaz Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:59:10 -0700
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On 16 Oct 2004 23:01:17 GMT, asscoassc@aol.com (AssCo Assc) wrote:
>What if there was a war and nobody went?
It would mean everybody stopped watching TV.
As long as there is TV, people will volunteer for wars.
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Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Why is it that the more fuel efficient a car becomes the more DORKY
it has to look? It reminds me of the paradoxical nature of The Future,
where on the one hand, we get all sorts of neat stuff like personal
robots to do our bidding, and rocket packs to fly around with, but on
the other hand we ALSO have to wear goofy looking spandex leotards.
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:24:39 GMT
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Zapanaz wrote:
> On 16 Oct 2004 23:01:17 GMT, asscoassc@aol.com (AssCo Assc) wrote:
>
>>What if there was a war and nobody went?
>
> It would mean everybody stopped watching TV.
>
> As long as there is TV, people will volunteer for wars.
People volunteered for wars long before the invention of TV.