October Surprise imminent!
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:45:59 GMT
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You knew it was coming:
"According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush
administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to
Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike
on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor... and key nuclear
targets throughout the country..."
"The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling
indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called
anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush
would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry."
More specifics at http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD410A.html
Correspondent:: "iDRMRSR"
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:19:39 -0400
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>>has initiated plans to launch a military strike
on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor... and key nuclear
targets throughout the country
Oh yess oh yess oh YESSSSsssssss don't stop now!
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Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 23 Oct 2004 19:09:43 -0700
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"iDRMRSR" wrote in message news:...
> >>has initiated plans to launch a military strike
> on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor... and key nuclear
> targets throughout the country
>
> Oh yess oh yess oh YESSSSsssssss don't stop now!
Don't ejaculate prematurely there, doktor. If they use tools as
lacking as the wobbly, unarmored, sand-fucked trucks that led to that
mini-mutiny last week, all they're gonna do is pound a lot of sand and
stir up the heathenry even more. Allah snack bar akbar! ("The Lord has
a boffo buffet.")
--
HellPope Huey
Welcome to "Dog Bitch-Ass Theatre."
Its 2 straight hours of dogs sniffing other dogs' butts.
Quick, call Fox. It can run right after "The Simple Life."
When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle.
It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain
and gag himself.
- Joe Cosby
Life is a series of dogs.
- George Carlin
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Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 04:17:42 GMT
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HellPopeHuey wrote:
> "iDRMRSR" wrote in message news:...
>
>> >>has initiated plans to launch a military strike
>> on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor... and key nuclear
>> targets throughout the country
>>
>> Oh yess oh yess oh YESSSSsssssss don't stop now!
>
> Don't ejaculate prematurely there, doktor. If they use tools as
> lacking as the wobbly, unarmored, sand-fucked trucks that led to that
> mini-mutiny last week, all they're gonna do is pound a lot of sand and
> stir up the heathenry even more. Allah snack bar akbar! ("The Lord has
> a boffo buffet.")
Especially considering they KNOW WHERE OSAMA IS but can't go do anything
about him. You all still remember Osama, right? I'm starting to think
it's just me.
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:24:40 -0700
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What is the origin of the term "October Surprise" ?
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 05:01:11 GMT
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nenslo wrote:
> What is the origin of the term "October Surprise" ?
FUCK YOU, that's what.
Correspondent:: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 08:55:25 -0700
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Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
> nenslo wrote:
> > What is the origin of the term "October Surprise" ?
>
> FUCK YOU, that's what.
HAW HAW HAW!! WAY TO "IN YOUR UGLY *FACE*!" A NENSLO, doktor!
One of my personal October Surprises was when my g/f met me at the
door last week dressed in only a bathrobe and a wicked grin. The other
was last year when Martha Stewart's ratings were flagging and she
suddenly showed personal pink while doing a segment on witch cupcakes.
I consider both of these to have been good things.
I mean, sure, its easy to imagine that if you stuck your manly pride
into Martha, it might freeze solid and break off, but as an unexpected
thing, it was a real hoot. The only event that could top that would be
for Laura Bush to turn and slap the shit out of George on-camera.
LORD, I wanna see that! You just KNOW she wants to. Even though she
generally looks as if she's tanked up on some kind of meds, its hard
to imagine she's not seething like Mt. Fuckyomama inside from living
with that chucklehead. I'm saving up some extra pills for the
election. If he retains office, I'm going to need them. Maybe THEN
she'll slap him.
--
HellPope Huey
Earth is the comedy relief for the rest of the Universe.
"In 75 years, we'll know if we're right or wrong,
but nobody standing here today
can tell me that with any certainty."
- "The West Wing"
"They really have my balls in a Salad Shooter."
- "South Park"
http://www.trojanmedia.org/pub/terrieralert.jpg
--
Correspondent:: HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:28:34 -0500
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On 24 Oct 2004 08:55:25 -0700, hellpopehuey@subgenius.com
(HellPopeHuey) wrote:
>Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
>> nenslo wrote:
>
>> > What is the origin of the term "October Surprise" ?
>>
>> FUCK YOU, that's what.
>
> HAW HAW HAW!! WAY TO "IN YOUR UGLY *FACE*!" A NENSLO, doktor!
>
> One of my personal October Surprises was when my g/f met me at the
>door last week dressed in only a bathrobe and a wicked grin. The other
>was last year when Martha Stewart's ratings were flagging and she
>suddenly showed personal pink while doing a segment on witch cupcakes.
>I consider both of these to have been good things.
>
> I mean, sure, its easy to imagine that if you stuck your manly pride
>into Martha, it might freeze solid and break off, but as an unexpected
>thing, it was a real hoot. The only event that could top that would be
>for Laura Bush to turn and slap the shit out of George on-camera.
>LORD, I wanna see that! You just KNOW she wants to. Even though she
>generally looks as if she's tanked up on some kind of meds, its hard
>to imagine she's not seething like Mt. Fuckyomama inside from living
>with that chucklehead. I'm saving up some extra pills for the
>election. If he retains office, I'm going to need them. Maybe THEN
>she'll slap him.
>
President and Mrs. Punch and Judy....I LIKE IT!!!
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:52:03 -0700
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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>
> nenslo wrote:
> > What is the origin of the term "October Surprise" ?
>
> FUCK YOU, that's what.
Well that I knew.
Correspondent:: Frere Jean Bleu
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:32:49 +1000
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:24:40 -0700, nenslo wrote:
>
>What is the origin of the term "October Surprise" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise
October Surprise is the allegation that representatives of the 1980
Ronald Reagan presidential campaign arranged the Iran-Contra deal well
in advance of the 1980 election where Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy
Carter. October Surprise is also the title of a book on the subject by
Gary Sick. This usage of the term describes a situation where a
Presidential incumbent uses his office to do something very popular at
the last minute before election day, to increase his chances of
getting reelected. Thus the alleged conspiracy was precisely to
prevent an "October Surprise" that would have aided Carter, the
incumbent, effected by postponing the release of the hostages held by
Iran until after the election.
The most public face of the story is simply that though in October of
1980 an agreement was reached, after long negotiations, to unfreeze
Iran's monetary assets for the safe return of the hostages, yet, for
some reason, the hostages were not released until January 20, 1981,
the very day that Ronald Reagan was inaugurated as president.
Proponents of the theory, such as Barbara Honegger, a researcher and
policy analyst with the 1980 Reagan/Bush campaign (interviewed in
link), allege that William Casey and other representatives of the
Reagan presidential campaign made a deal at two sets of meetings in
July and August at the Ritz Hotel in Madrid with Iranians to delay the
release of Americans held hostage in Iran until after the November
1980 presidential elections, so that Reagan's opponent, the incumbent
President Jimmy Carter, whose team had been negotiating, wouldn't gain
a popularity boost (an 'October Surprise') before election day. The
allegations included a date-specific allegation that William Casey met
with an Iranian cleric in Madrid, Spain, and much of the tardy
investigations have centered on whether, at the weekend in question he
was actually at Bohemian Grove retreat in California. Though William
Casey was probably in London following the alleged meetings, critical
pages of his daybook diary were unaccountably missing when the
investigators came to look for them over a decade later.
Carter was at the time dealing with the Iran hostage crisis and the
hostile regime of the Ayatollah Khomeini. Those who aver that a deal
was made allege that certain Republicans with CIA connections,
including George H. W. Bush, arranged to have the hostages held
through October, until Reagan could defeat Carter in early November,
and then be released. The hostages were in fact released on the very
day of Reagan's inauguration, twenty minutes after his inaugural
address. The timing of the release did not spark much press attention
at the time.
Two months earlier, in a campaigning interview Ronald Reagan had said
that he had a "secret plan" involving the hostages. "My ideas require
quiet diplomacy," he had responded when pressed, "where you don't have
to say what it is you're thinking of doing."
A 1981 Congressional probe into the Reagan campaign's theft of White
House briefing books on the eve of a presidential debate disclosed
that Reagan campaign manager William Casey (later appointed as
Director of Central Intelligence in the Reagan administration) was
receiving highly classified reports on closely held Carter
administration intelligence on the Carter campaign and the Democratic
president's efforts to liberate the hostages.
A Public Broadcasting System's 'Frontline' documentary in 1990 brought
the story unavoidably to the surface in detail. In 1991, while playing
golf with George Bush in Palm Springs, Ronald Reagan gave reporters a
sound bite. In 1980, he had "tried some things the other way," that
is, to free the hostages, he told them. When pressed he said that the
details remained "classified."
Separate House and Senate investigations were further delayed until
1992. William Casey, the alleged go-between, was dead by then, and it
seemed impossible to account for all his moves during the summer of
1980, when he is said to have conferred with agents representing the
Ayatollah Khomeini's government.
If the allegations are true, some believe that dealing with a hostile
foreign government to achieve the defeat of a domestic administration
would have been an act of treason.
According to Sick's theory, Oliver North was the administration's
scapegoat, taking responsibility in order to conceal the "treason" of
Reagan and Bush. A PBS documentary, "The Secret Government," hosted by
Bill Moyers, detailing the "off the shelf, self-financing, independent
covert operations" entity mentioned by North, and tracing it to its
cold war beginnings won an Emmy for best documentary film.
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:54:08 -0700
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Frere Jean Bleu wrote:
>
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 21:24:40 -0700, nenslo wrote:
>
> >
> >What is the origin of the term "October Surprise" ?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise
>
> October Surprise is the allegation that representatives of the 1980
> Ronald Reagan presidential campaign arranged the Iran-Contra deal well
> in advance of the 1980 election where Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy
> Carter.
Thank you.
Correspondent:: chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 14:40:46 -0700
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Frere Jean Bleu wrote in message news:...
[Carter-era CnspTh.]
Do you also believe that Desert One was deliberately botched by the military?
--
C.
Correspondent:: Frere Jean Bleu
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:51:48 +1000
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On 24 Oct 2004 14:40:46 -0700, chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev.
Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel) wrote:
>Frere Jean Bleu wrote in message news:...
>
>[Carter-era CnspTh.]
>
>Do you also believe that Desert One was deliberately botched by the military?
No that was just bad logistics.
Fr J B
Correspondent:: rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885)
Date: 26 Oct 2004 00:06:58 GMT
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>>Do you also believe that Desert One was deliberately botched by the
>military?
>
>No that was just bad logistics.
I disagree. I believe it was sabotaged by putting the wrong filters on
helicopters, forcing the mission to be abandonded due to lack of operational
helicopters. I believe the refueling collision on the ground between the
aircraft was an accident -- an unintended consequence.
The, "October Surprise" was already in the works at the time of the mission.
Can't back it up. Won't try to. Just another episode of American history with
the bloody hand-prints of the Bush family all over it. Where was George?
"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong."
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:02:54 -0700
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RLan538885 wrote:
>
> >>Do you also believe that Desert One was deliberately botched by the
> >military?
> >
> >No that was just bad logistics.
>
> I disagree.
Nobody gives a fuck about your jackass opinion, ignoramus.
Correspondent:: rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885)
Date: 28 Oct 2004 01:23:40 GMT
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>Nobody gives a fuck about your jackass opinion, ignoramus.
Your time has long since passed, NensNo. We've all watched your steady
decline. Take a break from your ego and your stupid verbiage. You post
incomprehensible crap and think it brilliant. You are rapidly becoming an
object of pity.
"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong."
Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:09:20 -0700
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RLan538885 wrote:
>
> >Nobody gives a fuck about your jackass opinion, ignoramus.
>
> Your time has long since passed, NensNo. We've all watched your steady
> decline. Take a break from your ego and your stupid verbiage. You post
> incomprehensible crap and think it brilliant. You are rapidly becoming an
> object of pity.
>
> "100,000 lemmings can't be wrong."
What a dumbshit. "NensNo" - that's the lamest nameflame I've gotten
since that one dumbass called me Henslow. Take a break from UP YOURS,
fuckface. You are rapidly becoming WHO CARES.
Correspondent:: Rev DJ Epoch
Date: 28 Oct 2004 13:40:20 GMT
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nenslo wrote in news:418054D0.20687CE8@yahoox.com:
> RLan538885 wrote:
>>
>> >Nobody gives a fuck about your jackass opinion, ignoramus.
>>
>> Your time has long since passed, NensNo. We've all watched your steady
>> decline. Take a break from your ego and your stupid verbiage. You post
>> incomprehensible crap and think it brilliant. You are rapidly becoming
an
>> object of pity.
>>
>> "100,000 lemmings can't be wrong."
>
> What a dumbshit. "NensNo" - that's the lamest nameflame I've gotten
> since that one dumbass called me Henslow. Take a break from UP YOURS,
> fuckface. You are rapidly becoming WHO CARES.
>
Rapidly becoming? More like has been for over a year. He's a permanent item
in my killfile and if you wonks wou7ld just ignore him I'd never even know
he was still around.
--
The Church of Our Lady of Prepetual Motion
Cathedral, Carwash and Dancehall- Home of the Traci Lords Memorial Brothel
Rev. DJ Epoch - proprietor and janitor
Divine Southern Redneck Yeti Clench Recruitment site: http://revdjepoch.COM
Correspondent:: "ghost"
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:59:41 GMT
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A nice light pumpkin custard pie with butter crust, topped with fresh
whipped cream (light on the vanilla, light on the sugar).
Oh, what a surprise that would be.
Correspondent:: "Rev. Simion Simian"
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:41:53 +0000
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The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new. RLan538885
sat down and wrote
>"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong."
I don't see how right or wrong comes into it. They didn't jump, they
were PUSHED by Disney's nazi henchmen. I mean, you could write
"6,000,000 Jews can't be wrong" and you'd make even less sense.
Go in Peace, my son
--
Rev. Simian
Correspondent:: rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885)
Date: 01 Nov 2004 01:08:19 GMT
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>"6,000,000 Jews can't be wrong" and you'd make even less sense.
Jews and lemmings -- apples & oranges? No comparison.>
>Go in Peace, my son
And peace be with you too, Rev.
"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong."
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 25 Oct 2004 23:02:28 GMT
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>Frere Jean Bleu wrote in message
>news:...
>
>[Carter-era CnspTh.]
>
>Do you also believe that Desert One was deliberately botched by the military?
Yes.
Not intentinaly.
The Commander of that mission wrote a damned good book on it and why it failed.
They wanted experianced Tactical Helo Pilots from teh Army to fly the chopters.
It would have required them to train and certify on the CH-53, but it could
have been done.
The Navy & Marines cried foul! The Army was already contributing the
Delta-Force Commandos! They wanted some of the glory too!
So the Helo pilots were spluit between the marines and the navy. The Navy
pilots had zero experiance flying total blackout w/ night vision.
Also the Helos sed were modified Anti-submarine units. The Air Forces Commando
Helo unit was station at one Air BAse in Guam. If the they all disapperaed for
a long period of time, the press/Iranians would get a whif that something was
coming.
The Helos used were flown out to en Aircraft Carrier and sat there for three
months while the Commandos trained modifoed the initial plans.
THe Pilots who flew the pratice mission were not the ones who would fly the
real misison.
Since the helos on the aircraft carrier did not "belong" to anyone. Nobody did
the periodic maintenance on the. And none checked to see what kind of
communications equipment they had.
By the time the plans were solidified and all the commados and pilots were
flown out to the carrier, did someone actually look at the helos. The Radios in
the navy choppers wher not compatable with the radios used by the Delta Ground
team. (Strike One)
Depsite forecasts calling for severe dust storms, the dust shields were removed
from the chpper engines to increase their range (Strike two)
The Pilots who flew the choppers had litle or no experiance in tactical night
flying. (strike three)
As they flew into the dust storm, the Navy Pilots got lost, the missing Dust
shields allowed the dust to get into the turbines and dameged them and the
transmissions. One helo had to make a forced landing about half-way to desert
one.
And because they could not communicate with ground units, they had to depend
upon hand signals to co-ordiante the gorund refueling.
In other words, it was fouled up becuase the best qualified personal were not
used so all the services could get a "peice of the action."
The Delta and Air Force Special Ops were yelling and screaming trying to tell
everyone the operations was doomed because ot it. But the higher ups at the
Pentagon ingnored the warnings and just told the President what they thought he
wanted to hear.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel)
Date: 26 Oct 2004 19:16:57 -0700
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mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull) wrote in message news:<20041025190228.07907.00001895@mb-m24.aol.com>...
> >Frere Jean Bleu wrote in message
> >news:...
> >
> >[Carter-era CnspTh.]
> >
> >Do you also believe that Desert One was deliberately botched by the military?
>
> Yes.
>
>[explains why]
>
Oh.
So just your basic Pentagon clusterfuck?
Rog.
--
C.
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 17:59:55 GMT
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> Don't ejaculate prematurely there, doktor. If they use tools as
>lacking as the wobbly, unarmored, sand-fucked trucks that led to that
>mini-mutiny last week, all they're gonna do is pound a lot of sand and
>stir up the heathenry even more. Allah snack bar akbar! ("The Lord has
>a boffo buffet.")
And don;t forget, that unlike the Iraqi's, the Iranians WILL fight back with
everything they have.
And that include those nuclear weapons they might of might not have.
And if the Iranians have half a brain, they wuld have their Weapons Facilities
hidden. With the big facilities that the CON shows form it Satilite images
could be "bait" to lure the "Allies" (US and Isreal) into a trap.
Just imagine if the US did launch this attack and lost 50% of its forces
without a guarantee knock out?
What if Isreal assisted the US in this attack?
What would that do to the remaining good will the US has in the Middel East?
Iran, although it equipment is older, still has a well traiined military and it
is professionaly lead.
Going into that nation will not be the overwelming CNN/Fox News Music video
that the Iraq invasion was.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 14:32:57 -0700
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Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
> You knew it was coming:
>
> "According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush
> administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to
> Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike
> on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor... and key nuclear
> targets throughout the country..."
>
> "The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling
> indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called
> anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush
> would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry."
>
> More specifics at http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD410A.html
Oh, horseshit.
--
C.
Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:44:56 -0700
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On 24 Oct 2004 14:32:57 -0700, chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev.
Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel) wrote:
>Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
>> You knew it was coming:
>>
>> "According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush
>> administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to
>> Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike
>> on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor... and key nuclear
>> targets throughout the country..."
>>
>> "The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling
>> indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called
>> anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush
>> would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry."
>>
>> More specifics at http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD410A.html
>
>Oh, horseshit.
http://tinyurl.com/3vwgx
Keep your dial tuned there, same bat-time, same bat-channel.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Look in a mirror all your life and you will see death at work; like bees in a hive of glass
- Cocteau
Correspondent:: rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885)
Date: 25 Oct 2004 00:12:00 GMT
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>Oh, horseshit.
Probably. Not enough time spent in public relations and wrapping themselves in
the flag to pull off such a massive miliatary move in the few days before the
"election." It would be too obvious. Still, nothing is beneath the
repugnicans. They probably have less dramatic plots for stealing the electoral
process.
"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong."
Correspondent:: chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel)
Date: 26 Oct 2004 19:15:47 -0700
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rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885) wrote in message news:<20041024201200.01927.00001636@mb-m23.aol.com>...
> >Oh, horseshit.
>
> Probably. Not enough time spent in public relations and wrapping themselves in
> the flag to pull off such a massive miliatary move in the few days before the
> "election." It would be too obvious. Still, nothing is beneath the
> repugnicans. They probably have less dramatic plots for stealing the electoral
> process.
>
Oh, horseshit.
Correspondent:: nikko
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:36:20 GMT
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Let the spin begin...
Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
> You knew it was coming:
>
> "According to White House and Washington Beltway insiders, the Bush
> administration, worried that it could lose the presidential election to
> Senator John F. Kerry, has initiated plans to launch a military strike
> on Iran's top Islamic leadership, its nuclear reactor... and key nuclear
> targets throughout the country..."
>
> "The Iran attack plan was reportedly drawn up after internal polling
> indicated that if the Bush administration launched a so-called
> anti-terrorist attack on Iran some two weeks before the election, Bush
> would be assured of a landslide win against Kerry."
>
> More specifics at http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAD410A.html