Glen Moray 12

Correspondent:: "Rev. Beergoggles"
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 17:57:39 -0500

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Quite an interesting Scotch this Glen Moray.
Not as smooth as Glen Morangie nor as smoking
log in your face as Talisker

A bit acidic but refreshing. Carmel
finish and some peat tones.

But what the fuck do I know. It's drinkable
and hasn't made me go blind. yet.

--
rbg

Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:00:05 GMT

Correspondent:: HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:11:27 -0500

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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:00:05 GMT, König Prüß, GfbAEV
wrote:

>
>there were some great bottles of Talisker and some not so hot, but now
>it's all uniformly pretty good. I think Talisker must be like pussy:
>the worst I've ever had was pretty good.
>

'Fraid I can't say the same about cock.

Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:24:08 GMT

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"HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer" wrote:

> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:00:05 GMT, König Prüß, GfbAEV
> wrote:
>
> >
> >there were some great bottles of Talisker and some not so hot, but now
> >it's all uniformly pretty good. I think Talisker must be like pussy:
> >the worst I've ever had was pretty good.
> >
>
> 'Fraid I can't say the same about cock.

I like my women like I like my Scotch
20-yrs old with lots of coke on the side.

Correspondent:: HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:09:04 -0500

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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:24:08 GMT, König Prüß, GfbAEV
wrote:

>
>
>"HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer" wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:00:05 GMT, König Prüß, GfbAEV
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >there were some great bottles of Talisker and some not so hot, but now
>> >it's all uniformly pretty good. I think Talisker must be like pussy:
>> >the worst I've ever had was pretty good.
>> >
>>
>> 'Fraid I can't say the same about cock.
>
> I like my women like I like my Scotch
>20-yrs old with lots of coke on the side.

How frustrating for you.

Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:00:23 GMT

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"HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer" wrote:

> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:24:08 GMT, König Prüß, GfbAEV
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"HdMrs. Salacia the Overseer" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:00:05 GMT, König Prüß, GfbAEV
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >there were some great bottles of Talisker and some not so hot, but now
> >> >it's all uniformly pretty good. I think Talisker must be like pussy:
> >> >the worst I've ever had was pretty good.
> >> >
> >>
> >> 'Fraid I can't say the same about cock.
> >
> > I like my women like I like my Scotch
> >20-yrs old with lots of coke on the side.
>
> How frustrating for you.

Not really; 20-yr old women with coke on the side,
and a good bottle of Scotch cost about the same.

Correspondent:: polar bear
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 05:20:22 -0700

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In article <41673813.66E66653@ranunculus.org>, König Prüß, GfbAEV
wrote:

I think Talisker must be like pussy:
> the worst I've ever had was pretty good.
>
you've been lucky then.....

pb

Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 01:01:35 GMT

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"Rev. Beergoggles" wrote:

> Quite an interesting Scotch this Glen Moray.
> Not as smooth as Glen Morangie nor as smoking
> log in your face as Talisker
>
> A bit acidic but refreshing. Carmel
> finish and some peat tones.
>
> But what the fuck do I know. It's drinkable
> and hasn't made me go blind. yet.
>
> --
> rbgwashingtonpost.com
> Washington Drank Here
> After the Presidency, George Made Whiskey
>
> By Peter Carlson
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Thursday, September 30, 2004; Page C01
>
> "Whiskey," said Peter Cressy, "has played a very important role in our
>
> national history."
>
> Hear! Hear!
>
> Cressy, president of the Distilled Spirits Council of the United
> States,
> was at Mount Vernon, standing next to a copper whiskey still and two
> wooden barrels labeled "George Washington Distillery," explaining his
> historic mission.
>
> "This is about more than the distillery," he said. "It's about
> bringing
> George Washington to life."
>
> Hear! Hear!
>
> Whiskey makers love George Washington. To them, the Father of Our
> Country wasn't just America's first president, he was also the first
> ex-president to get into the whiskey-making business in a big way. And
>
> the folks at the Distilled Spirits Council think America ought to know
> a
> lot more about that.
>
> That's why DISCUS, as the council calls itself, is funding the $1.5
> million reconstruction of Washington's 1797 Mount Vernon distillery,
> to
> be completed in 2006. It's also why DISCUS summoned the history-
> and/or
> whiskey-loving media to Mount Vernon on Tuesday to announce that
> Washington's distillery will be the crown jewel of the new "American
> Whiskey Trail," a loose collection of whiskey-related tourist sites in
>
> several states.
>
> "What better place to serve as the gateway to the American Whiskey
> Trail
> than George Washington's distillery!" Cressy said.
>
> Hear! Hear!
>
> Washington's distillery was "one of the largest distilling operations
> in
> the country," Dennis Pogue, Mount Vernon's associate director, told
> the
> gathering.
>
> When Washington left the presidency and returned to Mount Vernon in
> 1797, his plantation manager, a Scotsman named James Anderson,
> suggested
> that his boss use the farm's excess grain to make whiskey for the
> local
> market. Washington agreed reluctantly, Pogue says, but the whiskey
> sold
> so well that in October 1797 Washington had his slaves build a
> 75-by-30-foot distillery.
>
> The distillery's five copper stills churned out about 4,000 gallons of
>
> rye whiskey the next year. In 1799, Washington did even better,
> selling
> nearly 11,000 gallons and earning about $7,500 -- an enormous sum in
> those days.
>
> "The cheap stuff sold for about 50 cents a gallon," Pogue says, "and
> the
> more expensive stuff went up to about a dollar a gallon."
>
> Last year, DISCUS gathered 13 "master distillers" from America's most
> famous whiskey producers -- Jack Daniel's, Jim Beam and Wild Turkey,
> among others -- and they used a reproduction of an 18th-century copper
>
> still at Mount Vernon to make 20 gallons of whiskey from Washington's
> own recipe: 607 parts rye, 357 parts corn, 57 parts malted barley.
> They
> stored the hooch in two 10-gallon barrels and let it age for a year --
>
> something Washington never bothered to do.
>
> Tuesday at Mount Vernon, Cressy ceremoniously cracked open one of
> those
> barrels and extracted some of its precious brown liquid. He took a
> sip.
> He rolled it on his tongue. He smiled.
>
> "Who knew rye whiskey could be so good?" he said.
>
> "It's surprisingly good," agreed Jerry Dalton, the master distiller
> from
> Jim Beam.
>
> Chris Morris, the master distiller of Woodford Reserve, was impressed
> at
> how much the whiskey had improved in a year. "It's a drier whiskey
> now,"
> he said. "It has some spice notes still but they've become longer,
> less
> sharp, more prickly."
>
> It's impossible to tell how much this whiskey resembles Washington's
> firewater, Morris said. But one thing is certain: When it came to
> whiskey, Americans of Washington's era cared more about quantity than
> they did about quality.
>
> Between 1790 and 1830, Americans went on what historian W.J. Rorabaugh
>
> termed a "spectacular binge." In those days, America was young and
> free
> and its citizens were, as often as not, besotted, pickled, three
> sheets
> to the wind or just plain drunk. Washington himself complained that
> booze was "the ruin of half the workmen in this Country." His
> successor,
> John Adams, worried that Americans were exceeding the rest of the
> world
> in "this degrading, beastly vice."
>
> In the early 1800s, Americans consumed more booze than at any time in
> our history -- more than five gallons of distilled spirits per person
> per year. (Today's figure is 1.8 gallons.) And that doesn't even count
>
> the most popular alcoholic beverage of the era -- hard cider, which
> was
> consumed almost all the time by almost everybody, including the
> aforementioned John Adams, who drank a tankard at breakfast every
> morning.
>
> "Americans drank at home and abroad, alone and together, at work and
> at
> play, in fun and in earnest," Rorabaugh wrote in his classic 1979 book
>
> "The Alcoholic Republic," from which this information was shamelessly
> stolen. "Americans drank before meals, with meals and after meals.
> They
> drank while working in the fields and while traveling across half a
> continent. They drank in their youth, and, if they lived long enough,
> in
> their old age."
>
> But all good things must end, and by 1840, America, urged on by a
> growing temperance movement, began sobering up. Since then, this new,
> sober America has experienced the Mexican War, the Civil War, the
> Indian
> wars, the rise of the robber barons, the Spanish-American War, World
> War
> I, Prohibition, the Great Depression, World War II, the Korean War,
> the
> Vietnam War, Watergate, a divorce epidemic, the Persian Gulf War, the
> rise of reality TV and the invasion of Iraq, among other ills.
>
> Whew! Contemplating the catalogue of catastrophes that followed
> America's turn toward sobriety is enough to drive a man to drink.
>
> Fortunately, on this day, DISCUS's master distillers have broken out
> their own best booze -- special stuff aged in an undisclosed location
> here at Mount Vernon. Ten distillers are standing behind a long table
> in
> the back of the room, pouring shots for all comers.
>
> Soon the room takes on a warm glow, and so do the cheeks of its
> occupants, who begin to experience a calm sense of well-being,
> accompanied by pleasant feelings of brotherhood toward the whole human
>
> race. Gentle peals of laughter ring out. A chilly rain falls outside,
> but it's cozy in here.
>
> Frank Coleman, DISCUS's VP for PR, announces that a shuttle bus has
> arrived to ferry folks to the site where Mount Vernon's archaeologists
>
> have uncovered the stone foundation of Washington's distillery, where
> the reproduction will be built next year.
>
> About a dozen souls tear themselves away from the whiskey table and
> dash
> through the rain to the bus. At the distillery site, two miles from
> Washington's house, the drizzle has become a deluge, but that doesn't
> stop Esther White, Mount Vernon's director of archaeology, from
> leading
> a tour.
>
> Fortified by whiskey, the pilgrims shuffle cheerfully through the
> soaked
> grass. The site is entirely covered in black plastic to protect it
> from
> the rain. White points to a spot of wet plastic that covers the place
> where one of Washington's stills might have been located two centuries
>
> ago.
>
> "It's right about there," she says, "under that puddle."
>
> Back on the bus, one of the drenched pilgrims stands up. He has an
> announcement.
>
> "Did you know," he says, "that Washington wasn't just a distiller?" He
>
> pauses dramatically. "He was also a president."
>
> That gets a laugh. Apparently, the whiskey's still working.
>
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