9/11 commission member: Pentagon knows where bin Laden is
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:19:19 GMT
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Osama bin Laden is living in South Waziristan in the Baluchistan
Mountains of the Baluchistan region of Pakistan, his money is coming
from the United Arab Emirates and high-ranking Saudi ministers, and the
Pentagon is painfully aware of all these facts but is powerless to Go
Get Him.
So says John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission.
Even though "there is an American presence in the area," Lehman says "we
can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and
the United States cannot afford that right now."
Gee, that couldn't have anything to do with the US military being
stretched a little thin thanks to the Bush administration's Iraqi
misadventures, could it?
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Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:04:10 -0700
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:19:19 GMT, Cardinal Vertigo
wrote:
>
>Even though "there is an American presence in the area," Lehman says "we
>can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and
>the United States cannot afford that right now."
I think he means "another another Vietnam"
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Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:35:46 GMT
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Zapanaz wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:19:19 GMT, Cardinal Vertigo
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Even though "there is an American presence in the area," Lehman says "we
>>can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and
>>the United States cannot afford that right now."
>
> I think he means "another another Vietnam"
I parsed it as "another Iraq."
Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.com (AssCo Assc)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 02:19:45 GMT
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<< "we can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and
the United States cannot afford that right now." >>
Right, we already have ONE Vietnam to contend
with, we don't need two.
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 17:52:36 GMT
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>Right, we already have ONE Vietnam to contend
>with, we don't need two.
We at one time had two Vietnams.
But one was so corrupt that it's Army had to overthrough thet government with
US backing. It was incapable of even providng the basic items of Good
Governeace with out someone wanting a kick-back or a bribe.
The other, although ruthless Communits state, was based on Vietnamese
Nationalism and was basicly an extention of a movement that had been going on
since China invaded and conquored Vietman 800 years ago.
Guess which one won.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 17:49:13 GMT
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>So says John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission.
>
>
Lehman was Sec. of the Navy under Reagan and came up with the idea of bring
back the Battle ships.
even though the opearation people made fact that the old Iowa Class ships were
too old, too slow and needed too much fuel (and there fore more tankers to feed
them) when compared to the more modern ships.
After the Cold War was declared over, the Battleships were removed form active
service becuase they were too old, too slow and burn too much fuel.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
Charles E. Montague
Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:08:07 GMT
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Rev. Richard Skull wrote:
>>So says John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission.
>
> Lehman was Sec. of the Navy under Reagan and came up with the idea of bring
> back the Battle ships.
>
> even though the opearation people made fact that the old Iowa Class ships were
> too old, too slow and needed too much fuel (and there fore more tankers to feed
> them) when compared to the more modern ships.
>
> After the Cold War was declared over, the Battleships were removed form active
> service becuase they were too old, too slow and burn too much fuel.
Yeah, his association with the Reagan Administration damages his
credibility somewhat, but it simultaneously reinforces it as well (the
courage to break ranks and all). I see it as a wash.
Correspondent:: chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel)
Date: 24 Oct 2004 16:20:21 -0700
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mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull) wrote in message news:<20041024134913.24921.00003513@mb-m20.aol.com>...
> >So says John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission.
> >
> >
>
> Lehman was Sec. of the Navy under Reagan and came up with the idea of bring
> back the Battle ships.
>
> even though the opearation people made fact that the old Iowa Class ships were
> too old, too slow and needed too much fuel (and there fore more tankers to feed
> them) when compared to the more modern ships.
>
> After the Cold War was declared over, the Battleships were removed form active
> service becuase they were too old, too slow and burn too much fuel.
>
Cheaper to run than modern Aircraft Carriers, with nearly the same
prestige factor. And as I recall, those 16" guns were used to some
effect in Lebanon.
Colud you get the same effect with a guided missle DD launching cruise
missle? Tactically, yes; psychologically, probably not.
--
C.
Correspondent:: "ghost"
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:48:15 GMT
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"The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel" wrote:
(snip)
> Colud you get the same effect with a guided missle DD launching cruise
> missle? Tactically, yes; psychologically, probably not.
Fuck psychology, let's BLOW SHIT UP.
Enough blowing up of shit, psychology will fall right in line.
Smaller, cheaper and smarter cruise missiles. Lots of 'em.
Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:53:21 -0700
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 00:48:15 GMT, "ghost" wrote:
>
>"The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel" wrote:
>
>(snip)
>> Colud you get the same effect with a guided missle DD launching cruise
>> missle? Tactically, yes; psychologically, probably not.
>
>
>Fuck psychology, let's BLOW SHIT UP.
>
>Enough blowing up of shit, psychology will fall right in line.
>
>Smaller, cheaper and smarter cruise missiles. Lots of 'em.
>
Cruise custom neutron nukes that only kill psychologists but leave
buildings standing.
They'd be like "these missiles reveal a deep-seated hostility in the
designers towards ..." fucking KABOOM.
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Correspondent:: "BEN"
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:46:46 +1000
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"Zapanaz" wrote in message
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> Cruise custom neutron nukes that only kill psychologists but leave
> buildings standing.
The ultimate weapon to destroy people but l;eave buildings intact:
the cruise mortgage
Correspondent:: nikolai kingsley
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:38:30 +1000
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> The ultimate weapon to destroy people but l;eave buildings intact:
the ultimate weapon is to destroy EVERYTHING down to the quark level.
leaving nothing but a faint fog of whateverthefuckitis quarks are made of.
Correspondent:: "ghost"
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:04:39 GMT
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"nikolai kingsley" wrote in message
news:2u8mu1F28knonU2@uni-berlin.de...
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> > The ultimate weapon to destroy people but l;eave buildings intact:
>
>
>
> the ultimate weapon is to destroy EVERYTHING down to the quark level.
> leaving nothing but a faint fog of whateverthefuckitis quarks are made of.
A smear of potential "states", I surmise.
Correspondent:: "Rev. 11D Ricardo MadGello"
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:11:17 -0700
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Nice try.
It's already that way, though.
All this mind-game crap is so Faux News can make a buck.
SUCKERS!
"nikolai kingsley" wrote in message
news:2u8mu1F28knonU2@uni-berlin.de...
>
>> The ultimate weapon to destroy people but l;eave buildings intact:
>
>
>
> the ultimate weapon is to destroy EVERYTHING down to the quark level.
> leaving nothing but a faint fog of whateverthefuckitis quarks are made of.
Correspondent:: chaos_israel@antisocial.com (The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel)
Date: 26 Oct 2004 19:04:10 -0700
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"ghost" wrote in message news:...
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> Fuck psychology, let's BLOW SHIT UP.
>
SIG
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:16:30 GMT
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In article <20041024134913.24921.00003513@mb-m20.aol.com>,
mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull) wrote:
> After the Cold War was declared over, the Battleships were removed form
> active service becuase they were too old, too slow and burn too much fuel.
That's happening to a lot of the earliest SubG Doktors, too. Love me
quick, before I'm all gone.
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and I VOTED.
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Praise him for bits of overtime
Praise him whose wars we love to fight
Praise him, fat leech and parasite
Amen.
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Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:43:25 GMT
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HellPope Huey wrote:
> In article <20041024134913.24921.00003513@mb-m20.aol.com>,
> mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull) wrote:
>
>> After the Cold War was declared over, the Battleships were removed form
>> active service becuase they were too old, too slow and burn too much fuel.
>
> That's happening to a lot of the earliest SubG Doktors, too. Love me
> quick, before I'm all gone.
Yes, but you guys are still cheaper to operate than modern aircraft
carriers, with nearly the same prestige factor.
I hear those sixteen-inchers were used to some effect in Lebanon, too.
Correspondent:: wbarwell
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:40:04 -0400
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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
> Osama bin Laden is living in South Waziristan in the Baluchistan
> Mountains of the Baluchistan region of Pakistan, his money is coming
> from the United Arab Emirates and high-ranking Saudi ministers, and the
> Pentagon is painfully aware of all these facts but is powerless to Go
> Get Him.
>
> So says John Lehman, a member of the 9/11 commission.
>
> Even though "there is an American presence in the area," Lehman says "we
> can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and
> the United States cannot afford that right now."
>
All we need to do is round up all the loudmouthed Bush lovers
and send them over there in a herd. Dump 'em, hand 'em
grenades and guns and let 'em go get Osama.
If they do, fine, if not, fine. We round up more.
Wazshitiland doesn't have oil, neither does Pakistan.
Who cares about THEM, after Osama is dead.
And if it takes 38,562 dead far right Drugs Lumpbrain
fans to get him, so what? We have too many of those
shitheads anyway. Cull the herd.
--
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Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
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