370 Tons!
Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 28 Oct 2004 23:34:03 GMT

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370 tons of high explosives...

That about 4 railroad boxcars full!

Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!

That only about 75 trucks worth.

Do you feel safer now?




MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: Don Radford
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:24:52 GMT

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Rev. Richard Skull wrote:

> 370 tons of high explosives...
>
> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!

How powerful is RDX compared to TNT (or :Are we into Megatons yet)?

--
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Certified God by the holy authority of
the White Lotus Fortune Cookie Company
June 23, 2004


Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:53:16 GMT

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Don Radford wrote:

> Rev. Richard Skull wrote:
>
> > 370 tons of high explosives...
> >
> > That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>
> How powerful is RDX compared to TNT (or :Are we into Megatons yet)?
>
> --
>

No, not up to megatons yet!
380 tons of TNT would be .380 kilotons--
TNT expands at a rate of about 12,000fps,
and C-4 is about 25,000; so, even doubling
for velocity of RDX, just about up to 1kilo--





Correspondent:: wbarwell
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:30:59 -0400

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Don Radford wrote:

> Rev. Richard Skull wrote:
>
>> 370 tons of high explosives...
>>
>> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>
> How powerful is RDX compared to TNT (or :Are we into Megatons yet)?

More powerful, bout 10% more or so I suppose.
The neat thing about RDX and HDX is you can mix it
with plasitcizer and make C-4.




--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero

Cheerful Charlie


Correspondent:: phy
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:47:38 -0000

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wbarwell wrote in
news:4181d47b$0$173$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com:

> Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
> Bush? Well they don't give medals
> for going AWOL, missing your medical and
> getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
> Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero

Hey, those barstools can get really slippery after a few tequila
boilermakers, you know.

-phy (hic)


Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 30 Oct 2004 01:53:55 GMT

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>Rev. Richard Skull wrote:
>
>> 370 tons of high explosives...
>>
>> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>
>How powerful is RDX compared to TNT (or :Are we into Megatons yet)?

About 1.3 to 1.5 times depending on how is it used and what it is mixed with.

In its raw state, the only explosive more powerful is Nitro.


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"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: wbarwell
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:25:18 -0400

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Rev. Richard Skull wrote:

> 370 tons of high explosives...
>
> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>
> Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!
>

Not looking? Our troops sat there and WATCHED!


http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3741.html?cat=1
http://www.kstptv5.com/article/stories/S3723.html?cat=64

Yep, they was explosives there alruight.
Them Rooshians didn't get it!

Who did?







--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero

Cheerful Charlie


Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 30 Oct 2004 01:55:13 GMT

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>http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3741.html?cat=1
>http://www.kstptv5.com/article/stories/S3723.html?cat=64
>
>Yep, they was explosives there alruight.
>Them Rooshians didn't get it!
>
>Who did?

"Bob"! He getting ready for next X-Day!

It will be RDX-day!

Go out with a bang!


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: wbarwell
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:27:00 -0400

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Rev. Richard Skull wrote:

> 370 tons of high explosives...
>
> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>
> Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!
>

No, our troops sat there and watched!

Yep, they was explosives there alright!
Them Rooshians didn't sneak off withit all!

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3741.html?cat=1
http://www.kstptv5.com/article/stories/S3723.html?cat=64


And who did?


The New York Times


October 28, 2004

MISSING EXPLOSIVES


4 Iraqis Tell of Looting at Munitions Site in '03

By JAMES GLANZ and JIM DWYER


BAGHDAD, Iraq, Oct. 27 - Looters stormed the weapons site at Al Qaqaa in
the days after American troops swept through the area in early April 2003
on their way to Baghdad, gutting office buildings, carrying off munitions
and even dismantling heavy
machinery, three Iraqi witnesses and a regional security chief said
Wednesday.


The Iraqis described an orgy of theft so extensive that enterprising
residents rented their trucks to looters. But some looting was clearly
indiscriminate, with people grabbing anything they could find and later
heaving unwanted items off the trucks.


Two witnesses were employees of Al Qaqaa - one a chemical engineer and
the other a mechanic - and the third was a former employee, a chemist, who
had come back to retrieve his records, determined to keep them out of
American hands. The mechanic, Ahmed
Saleh Mezher, said employees asked the Americans to protect the site but
were told this was not the soldiers' responsibility.

The accounts do not directly address the question of when 380 tons of
powerful conventional explosives vanished from the site sometime after
early March, the last time international inspectors checked the seals on
the bunkers where the material was
stored. It is possible that Iraqi forces removed some explosives before
the invasion.


But the accounts make clear that what set off much if not all of the
looting was the arrival and swift departure of American troops, who did not
secure the site after inducing the Iraqi forces to abandon it.


"The looting started after the collapse of the regime," said Wathiq
al-Dulaimi, a regional security chief, who was based nearby in Latifiya.
But once it had begun, he said, the booty streamed toward Baghdad.


Earlier this month, on Oct. 10, the directorate of national monitoring at
the Ministry of Science and Technology notified the International Atomic
Energy Agency that the explosives, which are used in demolition and
missiles and are the raw material for
plastic explosives, were missing. The agency has monitored the explosives
because they can also be used as the initiator of an atomic bomb.

Agency officials examined the explosives in January 2003 and noted in
early March that their seals were still in place. On April 3, the Third
Infantry Division arrived with the first American troops.


Chris Anderson, a photographer for U.S. News and World Report who was
with the division's Second Brigade, recalled that the area was jammed with
American armor on April 3 and 4, which he believed made the removal of the
explosives unlikely. "It would be
quite improbable for this amount of weapons to be looted at that time
because of the traffic jam of armor," he said.


The brigade blew up numerous caches of arms throughout the area, he said.
Mr. Anderson said he did not enter the munitions compound.


The Second Brigade of the 101st Airborne Division arrived outside the
site on April 10, under the command of Col. Joseph Anderson. The brigade
had been ordered to move quickly to Baghdad because of civil disorder there
after Mr. Hussein's government
fell on April 9.


They gathered at Al Qaqaa, about 30 miles south, simply as a matter of
convenience, Colonel Anderson said in an interview this week. He said that
when he arrived at the site - unaware of its significance - he saw no signs
of looting, but was not paying
close attention.

Because he thought the brigade would be moving on to Baghdad within
hours, Al Qaqaa was of no importance to his mission, he said, and he was
unaware of the explosives that international inspectors said were hidden
inside.


Pentagon officials said Wednesday that analysts were examining
surveillance photographs of the munitions site. But they expressed doubts
that the photographs, which showed vehicles at the location on several
occasions early in the conflict, before
American troops moved through the area, would be able to indicate
conclusively when the explosives were removed.


Col. David Perkins, who commanded the Second Brigade of the Third
Infantry Division, called it "very highly improbable" that 380 tons of
explosives could have been trucked out of Al Qaqaa in the weeks after
American troops arrived.


Moving that much material, said Colonel Perkins, who spoke Wednesday to
news agencies and cable television, "would have required dozens of heavy
trucks and equipment moving along the same roadways as U.S. combat
divisions occupied continually for
weeks."

He conceded that some looting of the site had taken place. But a chemical
engineer who worked at Al Qaqaa and identified himself only as Khalid said
that once troops left the base itself, people streamed in to steal
computers and anything else of value

from the offices. They also took munitions like artillery shells, he said.

Mr. Mezher, the mechanic, said it took the looters about two weeks to
disassemble heavy machinery at the site and carry that off after the
smaller items were gone.


James Glanz reported from Baghdad for this article and Jim Dwyer from New
York. Ali Adeeb contributed reporting from Baghdad, and Khalid W. Hussein
and Zainab Obeid fromAl Qaqaa.








--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero

Cheerful Charlie


Correspondent:: "Rich Clark, aka Left Reverend Egg Plant, ULC, CotSG"
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:10:49 -0400

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wbarwell wrote:

> James Glanz reported from Baghdad for this article and Jim Dwyer from New
> York. Ali Adeeb contributed reporting from Baghdad, and Khalid W. Hussein
> and Zainab Obeid fromAl Qaqaa.


I like that, Al Qaqaa. I wonder if there's an Al DooDoo or Al Poupon?

Eggplant


Correspondent:: wbarwell
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:44:50 -0400

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Rich Clark, aka Left Reverend Egg Plant, ULC, CotSG wrote:

> wbarwell wrote:
>
>> James Glanz reported from Baghdad for this article and Jim Dwyer from
>> New
>> York. Ali Adeeb contributed reporting from Baghdad, and Khalid W. Hussein
>> and Zainab Obeid fromAl Qaqaa.
>
>
> I like that, Al Qaqaa. I wonder if there's an Al DooDoo or Al Poupon?

Qaqaa. We are in deed Qaqaa now thanks to Bush.


CNN NEWSNIGHT AARON BROWN
Controversy Over Missing Explosives
Intensifies
Aired October 28, 2004 - 22:00   ET


BROWN: OK, back to the explosives the who
and when and the how of it all but on the
question of when, as we saw at the top of
the program, there is new information to
factor in, pretty conclusive to our eye.
So, we'll sort through this now, take the
politics out of it and try and deal with
facts with former head U.N. weapons inspector --
U.S. weapons inspector David Kay. David,
it's nice to see you.

DAVID KAY, FMR. U.S. WEAPONS INSPECTOR:
Good to be with you, Aaron.

BROWN: I don't know how better to do this than
to show you some pictures, have you explain to
me what they are or are not, OK? First, I'll
just call it the seal and tell me if this is
an IAEA seal on that bunker at that munitions
dump.

KAY: Aaron, as about as certain as I can be
looking at a picture, not physically holding it,
which obviously I would have preferred to have
been there, that's an IAEA seal. I've never
seen anything else in Iraq in about 15 years
of being in Iraq and around Iraq that was other
than an IAEA seal of that shape.

BROWN: And was there anything else at the
facility that would have been under IAEA seal?

KAY: Absolutely nothing. It was he HMX, RDX,
the two high explosives.

BROWN: OK. Now, I want to take a look at the
barrels here for a second and you can tell me
what they tell you. They obviously to us just
show us a bunch of barrels. You'll see it somewhat
differently.

KAY: Well, it's interesting. There were three
foreign suppliers to Iraq of this explosive in the
1980s. One of them used barrels like this and inside
the barrel is a bag. HMX is in powdered form because
you actually use it to shape a spherical lens that is
used to create the triggering device for nuclear weapons.
And, particularly on the videotape, which is actually
better than the still photos, as the soldier dips into
it that's either HMX or RDX. I don't know of anything
else in al Qa Qaa that was in that form.

BROWN: Let me ask you then, David, the question
I asked Jamie. In regard to the dispute about
whether that stuff was there when the Americans
arrived, is it game, set, match? Is that part
of the argument now over?

KAY: Well, at least with regard to this one
bunker and the film shows one seal, one bunker,
one group of soldiers going through and there
were others there that were sealed, with this one,
I think it is game, set and match.
There was HMX, RDX in there. The seal was
broken and quite frankly to me the most frightening
thing is not only is the seal broken and the lock
broken but the soldiers left after opening it up.
I mean to rephrase the so-called (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
rule if you open an arms bunker, you own it. You
have to provide security.

BROWN: That raises a number of questions. Let
me throw out one. It suggests that maybe they
just didn't know what they had.

KAY: I think quite likely they didn't know they
had HMX, which speaks to the lack of intelligence
given troops moving through that area but they
certainly knew they had explosives.
And to put this in context, I think it's
important this loss of 360 tons but Iraq is
awash with tens of thousands of tons of
explosives right now in the hands of insurgents
because we did not provide the security when we
took over the country.

BROWN: Could you -- I'm trying to stay out of
the realm of politics.

KAY: So am I.

BROWN: I'm not sure you can necessarily. I know.
It's a little tricky here but is there any
reason not to have anticipated the fact that there
would be bunkers like this, explosives like this
and a need to secure them?

KAY: Absolutely not. For example, al Qa Qaa was
a site of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) super gun project. It
was a team of mine that discovered the HMX originally
in 1991. That was one of the most well documented
explosive sites in all of Iraq. The other 80 or
so major ammunition storage points were also well
documented. Iraq had, and it's a frightening number,
two-thirds of the total conventional explosives that
the U.S. has in its entire inventory. The country was
an armed camp.

BROWN: David, as quickly as you can because this
just came up in the last hour, as dangerous as this
stuff is, this would not be described as a WMD,
correct?

KAY: Oh, absolutely not.

BROWN: Thank you.

KAY: And, in fact, the loss of it is not a
proliferation issue.

BROWN: OK. It's just dangerous and it's out
there and by your thinking it should have been
secured.

KAY: Well, look, it was used to bring the Pan Am
flight down. It's a very dangerous explosive,
particularly in the hands of terrorists.

BROWN: David, thank you for walking me through
this. I appreciate it, David Kay the former head
U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq.

From New York this is NEWSNIGHT.





--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero

Cheerful Charlie


Correspondent:: industrial_endtimez@graffiti.net (Slack Master K.O.N.)
Date: 29 Oct 2004 07:58:35 -0700

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The true story is that The US military trucked it out. Then Haliburton
sold it back to the USA at a glorious profit.


Correspondent:: industrial_endtimez@graffiti.net (Slack Master K.O.N.)
Date: 29 Oct 2004 07:58:41 -0700

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The true story is that The US military trucked it out. Then Haliburton
sold it back to the USA at a glorious profit.


Correspondent:: humanoid
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:21:54 GMT

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:34:03 +0000, Rev. Richard Skull wrote:

> 370 tons of high explosives...
>
> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>
> Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!
>
> That only about 75 trucks worth.
>
> Do you feel safer now?
>

I feel like it won't make much of a difference. All this
means is that the roadside bomb builders won't have to salvage their
explosive materials from the countless artillery shells, mortars,
grenades, and landmines that litter the landscape of Iraq. It makes for
great political fodder though.



Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:33:36 GMT

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humanoid wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:34:03 +0000, Rev. Richard Skull wrote:
>
>> 370 tons of high explosives...
>>
>> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>>
>> Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!
>>
>> That only about 75 trucks worth.
>>
>> Do you feel safer now?
>
> I feel like it won't make much of a difference. All this
> means is that the roadside bomb builders won't have to salvage their
> explosive materials from the countless artillery shells, mortars,
> grenades, and landmines that litter the landscape of Iraq. It makes for
> great political fodder though.

ding! Winner.


Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 30 Oct 2004 02:00:04 GMT

--------
>> 370 tons of high explosives...
>>
>> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>>
>> Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!
>>
>> That only about 75 trucks worth.
>>
>> Do you feel safer now?
>>
>
>I feel like it won't make much of a difference. All this
>means is that the roadside bomb builders won't have to salvage their
>explosive materials from the countless artillery shells, mortars,
>grenades, and landmines that litter the landscape of Iraq. It makes for
>great political fodder though.
>
>
>

Consider that less then one pund of RDX brought down Pan Am flight 103 over
Lockerby. Now multiply 2,000 x 370tons........


And RDX is oderless! Which is why it is prefered by terrorists. Most "sniffers"
canot detect it. The Pam Am bomb had the case of a Boom Box (how ironic) molded
out of RDX and baked hard. It replaced the regualr plastic case.


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"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:48:41 GMT

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Rev. Richard Skull wrote:
>>> 370 tons of high explosives...
>>>
>>> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>>>
>>> Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!
>>>
>>> That only about 75 trucks worth.
>>>
>>> Do you feel safer now?
>>
>>I feel like it won't make much of a difference. All this
>>means is that the roadside bomb builders won't have to salvage their
>>explosive materials from the countless artillery shells, mortars,
>>grenades, and landmines that litter the landscape of Iraq. It makes for
>>great political fodder though.
>
> Consider that less then one pund of RDX brought down Pan Am flight 103 over
> Lockerby. Now multiply 2,000 x 370tons........
>
> And RDX is oderless! Which is why it is prefered by terrorists. Most "sniffers"
> canot detect it. The Pam Am bomb had the case of a Boom Box (how ironic) molded
> out of RDX and baked hard. It replaced the regualr plastic case.

The stolen explosive was HDX, not RDX, not that I know the difference or
have time to look it up.


Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 31 Oct 2004 20:51:21 GMT

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>The stolen explosive was HDX, not RDX, not that I know the difference or
>have time to look it up.
>

The explosvives were a mix of HDX, RDX.and PETN.

HDX and RDX are chemcially related. HDX is powerful, but takes a lot of heat &
shock to detonate. RDX is not as powerful but takes less shock & heat to
detonate.

They are mixed in certain ratios with stabilisers and plastics to form various
compounds like Composition A, C, & B

RDX, if I remember correctly is the stuff used in electirc blasting caps.

With PETN being used in non-electric caps.




MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:00:09 GMT

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"Rev. Richard Skull" wrote:

> >The stolen explosive was HDX, not RDX, not that I know the difference or
> >have time to look it up.
> >
>
> The explosvives were a mix of HDX, RDX.and PETN.
>
> HDX and RDX are chemcially related. HDX is powerful, but takes a lot of heat &
> shock to detonate. RDX is not as powerful but takes less shock & heat to
> detonate.
>
> They are mixed in certain ratios with stabilisers and plastics to form various
> compounds like Composition A, C, & B
>
> RDX, if I remember correctly is the stuff used in electirc blasting caps.
>
> With PETN being used in non-electric caps.
>

Some caps have mercury fulminate

Have you heard of or have experience with octanitrocubane?



Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 02 Nov 2004 23:49:01 GMT

--------
> Some caps have mercury fulminate
>
> Have you heard of or have experience with octanitrocubane?
>
>

No. But the Mecury fulminate caps are civilain caps. My experiece has been with
military caps. They are designed ot be "safer" (that is if you can make a cap
safer) then their civilian counterparts.


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 00:34:05 GMT

--------


"Rev. Richard Skull" wrote:

> > Some caps have mercury fulminate
> >
> > Have you heard of or have experience with octanitrocubane?
> >
> >
>
> No. But the Mecury fulminate caps are civilain caps. My experiece has been with
> military caps. They are designed ot be "safer" (that is if you can make a cap
> safer) then their civilian counterparts.
>
> MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
>
> "War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"
>
> Charles E. Montague

Like at Raritan Arsenel, sometimes we'd use electirc remote caps.
Sometimes we use standard caps in the charge crimped to det cord
and the det cord is hooked to a little thingy that looks like a nail clipper,
but it's got a shot gun primer stuck in the other end of the det cord.
The mil version is an olive-green plastic tube with a ring that you pull
to ignite, like you see on satchel charges. At Raritan, we found 20tons
of TNT, which was strange because it was only about 5 min from
Staten Island. No matter where we do these contracts, they're for
Corps of Engineers, Huntsville, Alabama. We get pretty much free-hand,
but ACE oversight. We got to work at the Army's biggest tactical nuke
stash, too; a "Q-Area" where it's SOS (shoot on sight) for unauthorized.
You wanna have some fun, wrap det cord around a can of ether starting
fluid five times and pop it, it makes about a thirty-foot fireball!
http://www.uxb.com





Correspondent:: phy
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:45:54 -0000

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mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull) wrote in
news:20041028193403.25764.00003009@mb-m07.aol.com:

> 370 tons of high explosives...
>
> That about 4 railroad boxcars full!
>
> Someone mus have snck them out when the US wasnot looking!
>
> That only about 75 trucks worth.
>
> Do you feel safer now?

Oh, it is 370 now, huh? Last week it was 380 tons! Next week it will
probably be 360. Pretty soon, it won't be any. Flip-Flopper! I feel safer
but only because I live in Bumfuck Egypt and I am not a soldier in Iraq.

-phy (KISS MY ASS)


Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 02 Nov 2004 23:50:11 GMT

--------
>Oh, it is 370 now, huh? Last week it was 380 tons! Next week it will
>probably be 360. Pretty soon, it won't be any. Flip-Flopper! I feel safer
>but only because I live in Bumfuck Egypt and I am not a soldier in Iraq.

The differance is the tonnage as first reported by the UN impsectors were in
metric tonnes. The other figure is in US tones.


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: phy
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:41:50 -0000

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mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull) wrote in
news:20041102185011.05244.00000008@mb-m20.aol.com:

>
>>Oh, it is 370 now, huh? Last week it was 380 tons! Next week it will
>>probably be 360. Pretty soon, it won't be any. Flip-Flopper! I feel
>>safer but only because I live in Bumfuck Egypt and I am not a soldier
>>in Iraq.
>
> The differance is the tonnage as first reported by the UN impsectors
> were in metric tonnes. The other figure is in US tones.

Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you very much for clearing that up. However,
you can still KISS MY ASS! If you see Hellpope Huey, you can tell him I
didn't vote for him after all, but not because he didn't want me to.

-phy