You don't know the danger:

Correspondent:: "Irie"
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:20:52 -0500

--------
The good news:

Kerry will not be president. His lack of principle, overly political,
opinion poll driven campaign and conduct will not be able to lead American
into his socialist driven policies and big government 'ideals'.

The bad news:

Bush is our president and he now has an even larger majority in both the
House and the Senate. There is no question this is the result of the pure
stupidity of the Left. While the entire country united as one after 9-11
and our will to fight was brought to the forefront of our culture on par
with Pearl Harbor, the left became even more socialist and irrational as
ever. Falling back on the ideals of protesting the Viet Nam war, they lost
sight of the reality opening up today. Instead of moving with the just
direction of the country, the left defied it, spat on it and fell into the
victimhood so easy and prevalent in our society today.

So now the balance of power is even more swayed to one party: the
Republicans. The same people who saw fit to investigate Clinton's penis as
opposed to working for the people, as they were hired to do. Daschle's
demise is a perfect microcosm for the entire election: in less than four
years he went from Majority Leader, to Minority Leader, to another socialist
looking for work. The Democratic party itself is going in this same
velocity.

This is bad news for America. This is bad because there is no real
difference between Republicans or Democrats. Both parties have far more in
common than they have differentiating them. They bicker over bull shit
issues like gay marriage and abortion, two subjects they know we will NEVER
agree upon, while in the back ground they are either buying off the
corporations on one hand or the unions on the other. Neither care to limit
how much of our freedoms and money they waste away. Therefore, any solid
majority that runs across both Houses and the Executive is BAD NEWS.

WAKE UP. Liberals have to open their eyes and see that reality that exists
today. Your Party and the Republicans all agree with the War On Terror,
which includes the war in Iraq. Just look at their voting records, from
Kerry on down. Look at Kerry's own statement that he'd vote the same way
again today even knowing what he knows now. There is a reason for this - we
did the right thing. Your party only used the war in Iraq as a divisive
issue to distract from the facts: there is no real difference between Kerry
and Bush. Kerry can Monday morning quarter back the war to death, it
doesn't make it wrong. I really believe that if Kerry actually had a plan
as opposed to a complaint, he would have won the election. But seeing he
has had to say just about anything in order to be electable, Kerry had not
one principle to base a decision upon that would have lead to a real plan to
pursue the War On Terror.

WAKE UP: Conservatives have to open their eyes and see the reality that
exists today as well. Republicans are not out for smaller government. They
run deficits as opposed to simply taking it outright as the liberals do. I
credit you with at least voting for the 'idea' of smaller government. Yet
Bush spends just as much money as Democrats, if not more. Here is a quote
from the Heritage Foundation: "March 10, 2004 Following a multi-year
spending spree that pushed federal spending above $20,000 per household and
the budget deficit up to nearly $500 billion, lawmakers are finally seeking
ways to control federal spending. " (Cite:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg1733.cfm). Bush has no problem
spending your money and that equates perfectly to bigger government.

We need a unified and fair means of voting in this country to bring some
kind of legitimate and viable competition to our election process. I
recommended ranked or instant run off elections. I found this on
FairVote.org, check it out:

http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm

THERE IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. Stop voting
for the lesser of two evils, you don't know the danger.

Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.

--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957




Correspondent:: "Dana"
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 02:33:15 GMT

--------

"Irie" wrote in message
news:7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07...
> The good news:
>
> Kerry will not be president. His lack of principle, overly political,
> opinion poll driven campaign and conduct will not be able to lead American
> into his socialist driven policies and big government 'ideals'.
>
> The bad news:
>
> Bush is our president and he now has an even larger majority in both the
> House and the Senate. There is no question this is the result of the pure
> stupidity of the Left. While the entire country united as one after 9-11
> and our will to fight was brought to the forefront of our culture on par
> with Pearl Harbor, the left became even more socialist and irrational as
> ever. Falling back on the ideals of protesting the Viet Nam war, they
lost
> sight of the reality opening up today. Instead of moving with the just
> direction of the country, the left defied it, spat on it and fell into the
> victimhood so easy and prevalent in our society today.
>
> So now the balance of power is even more swayed to one party: the
> Republicans. The same people who saw fit to investigate Clinton's penis
as
> opposed to working for the people, as they were hired to do. Daschle's
> demise is a perfect microcosm for the entire election: in less than four
> years he went from Majority Leader, to Minority Leader, to another
socialist
> looking for work. The Democratic party itself is going in this same
> velocity.
>
> This is bad news for America.

Wrong, this is great news for America.




Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 05:36:37 GMT

--------
In article ,
"Dana" wrote:
> "Irie" wrote in message
> news:7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07...

> > The good news:
> >> > Kerry will not be president. His lack of principle, overly political,
> > opinion poll driven campaign and conduct will not be able to lead American
> > into his socialist driven policies and big government 'ideals'.
> >
> > The bad news:
> >> > Bush is our president and he now has an even larger majority in both the
> > House and the Senate. .....
> So now the balance of power is even more swayed to one party: the
> > Republicans. The same people who saw fit to investigate Clinton's penis
> as opposed to working for the people, as they were hired to do.
> >...... This is bad news for America.
>
> Wrong, this is great news for America.

Yes it is... for the America ON MARS. However, the earthly one in which
I reside is clenching its buttocks VERY, VERY TIGHTLY. One tidy little
bombing of the Iranian yellow-cake facility by any one of several
possible culprits + their tight little NON-Iraqi army joining with Syria
to drive out the Jerusalem-supporting infidels could = all of us
stocking up on canned beets for the duration. In that case, I will laugh
until the radiation released into the jet stream makes my hair fall out.
Wait, I'm already bald... I meant until my TEETH fall out.

So get ready for your testicles to make a sudden, violent re-acension
if the Bad Thing happens. It never hurts to be prepared!

--

HellPope Huey ~ www.subgenius.com
Never mind the bollocks,
where's the bleedin' cordiality?

Where would this country be
without this great land of ours?
- Ronald Reagan

"Two dogs died, one from guinea worms,
the other from you."
- Hunter S. Thompson


Correspondent:: "Irie"
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 06:49:10 -0500

--------
"Dana" wrote in message
news:f8fb1d37d78bc38c3a8bbb10b3763300@news.meganetnews.com...
>
> "Irie" wrote in message
> news:7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07...
>> The good news:
>>
>> Kerry will not be president. His lack of principle, overly political,
>> opinion poll driven campaign and conduct will not be able to lead
>> American
>> into his socialist driven policies and big government 'ideals'.
>>
>> The bad news:
>>
>> Bush is our president and he now has an even larger majority in both the
>> House and the Senate. There is no question this is the result of the
>> pure
>> stupidity of the Left. While the entire country united as one after 9-11
>> and our will to fight was brought to the forefront of our culture on par
>> with Pearl Harbor, the left became even more socialist and irrational as
>> ever. Falling back on the ideals of protesting the Viet Nam war, they
> lost
>> sight of the reality opening up today. Instead of moving with the just
>> direction of the country, the left defied it, spat on it and fell into
>> the
>> victimhood so easy and prevalent in our society today.
>>
>> So now the balance of power is even more swayed to one party: the
>> Republicans. The same people who saw fit to investigate Clinton's penis
> as
>> opposed to working for the people, as they were hired to do. Daschle's
>> demise is a perfect microcosm for the entire election: in less than four
>> years he went from Majority Leader, to Minority Leader, to another
> socialist
>> looking for work. The Democratic party itself is going in this same
>> velocity.
>>
>> This is bad news for America.
>
> Wrong, this is great news for America.
>

So why do you think one party control in this country is a good idea?

Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.

--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

Stop voting for the lesser of two evils: http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm
>




Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 05 Nov 2004 00:56:49 GMT

--------
>So why do you think one party control in this country is a good idea?
>

Becuase we now have only one group of people to blame stuff on.


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: "ArWeGod"
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:09:18 GMT

--------
"Rev. Richard Skull" wrote in message
news:20041104195649.11588.00000091@mb-m29.aol.com...
> >So why do you think one party control in this country is a good idea?
>
> Becuase we now have only one group of people to blame stuff on.
>

Life sucks. No work. Bush's fault.

Uuuuhhh... how does that help???

--
ArWeBetterOff




Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 06 Nov 2004 13:54:39 GMT

--------
>Life sucks. No work. Bush's fault.
>
>Uuuuhhh... how does that help???
>
>--
>ArWeBetterOff

What I wanna know is can Bush get me a date? Hmmm? Well can he? Otherwise, he
sucks.
--
Oh yeah? Well FUCK YOU.


Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:59:50 GMT

--------


KD et al wrote:

> >Life sucks. No work. Bush's fault.
> >
> >Uuuuhhh... how does that help???
> >
> >--
> >ArWeBetterOff
>
> What I wanna know is can Bush get me a date? Hmmm? Well can he? Otherwise, he
> sucks.
> --
> Oh yeah? Well FUCK YOU.

Dubya could prolly fix you up with Dick Cheney's daughter.





Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: 06 Nov 2004 14:12:58 GMT

--------
>>Life sucks. No work. Bush's fault.
>> >
>> >Uuuuhhh... how does that help???
>> >
>> >--
>> >ArWeBetterOff
>>
>> What I wanna know is can Bush get me a date? Hmmm? Well can he? Otherwise,
>he
>> sucks.
>> --
>> Oh yeah? Well FUCK YOU.
>
> Dubya could prolly fix you up with Dick Cheney's daughter.

I'd rather have one of the Kennedy men. They're a good bet to die young aren't
they?



Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 14:32:14 GMT

--------


KD et al wrote:

> >>Life sucks. No work. Bush's fault.
> >> >
> >> >Uuuuhhh... how does that help???
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >ArWeBetterOff
> >>
> >> What I wanna know is can Bush get me a date? Hmmm? Well can he? Otherwise,
> >he
> >> sucks.
> >> --
> >> Oh yeah? Well FUCK YOU.
> >
> > Dubya could prolly fix you up with Dick Cheney's daughter.
>
> I'd rather have one of the Kennedy men. They're a good bet to die young aren't
> they?

Yeah, if they don't run off the road bringing you home from a party.





Correspondent:: "LastDance"
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 18:38:11 -0800

--------
Hey = Did you see Bush with his face on the mornimg of election = He
apparently listen to polls too.

"Irie" wrote in message
news:7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07...
> The good news:
>
> Kerry will not be president. His lack of principle, overly political,
> opinion poll driven campaign and conduct will not be able to lead American
> into his socialist driven policies and big government 'ideals'.
>
> The bad news:
>
> Bush is our president and he now has an even larger majority in both the
> House and the Senate. There is no question this is the result of the pure
> stupidity of the Left. While the entire country united as one after 9-11
> and our will to fight was brought to the forefront of our culture on par
> with Pearl Harbor, the left became even more socialist and irrational as
> ever. Falling back on the ideals of protesting the Viet Nam war, they
> lost sight of the reality opening up today. Instead of moving with the
> just direction of the country, the left defied it, spat on it and fell
> into the victimhood so easy and prevalent in our society today.
>
> So now the balance of power is even more swayed to one party: the
> Republicans. The same people who saw fit to investigate Clinton's penis
> as opposed to working for the people, as they were hired to do. Daschle's
> demise is a perfect microcosm for the entire election: in less than four
> years he went from Majority Leader, to Minority Leader, to another
> socialist looking for work. The Democratic party itself is going in this
> same velocity.
>
> This is bad news for America. This is bad because there is no real
> difference between Republicans or Democrats. Both parties have far more
> in common than they have differentiating them. They bicker over bull shit
> issues like gay marriage and abortion, two subjects they know we will
> NEVER agree upon, while in the back ground they are either buying off the
> corporations on one hand or the unions on the other. Neither care to
> limit how much of our freedoms and money they waste away. Therefore, any
> solid majority that runs across both Houses and the Executive is BAD NEWS.
>
> WAKE UP. Liberals have to open their eyes and see that reality that
> exists today. Your Party and the Republicans all agree with the War On
> Terror, which includes the war in Iraq. Just look at their voting
> records, from Kerry on down. Look at Kerry's own statement that he'd vote
> the same way again today even knowing what he knows now. There is a
> reason for this - we did the right thing. Your party only used the war in
> Iraq as a divisive issue to distract from the facts: there is no real
> difference between Kerry and Bush. Kerry can Monday morning quarter back
> the war to death, it doesn't make it wrong. I really believe that if
> Kerry actually had a plan as opposed to a complaint, he would have won the
> election. But seeing he has had to say just about anything in order to be
> electable, Kerry had not one principle to base a decision upon that would
> have lead to a real plan to pursue the War On Terror.
>
> WAKE UP: Conservatives have to open their eyes and see the reality that
> exists today as well. Republicans are not out for smaller government.
> They run deficits as opposed to simply taking it outright as the liberals
> do. I credit you with at least voting for the 'idea' of smaller
> government. Yet Bush spends just as much money as Democrats, if not more.
> Here is a quote from the Heritage Foundation: "March 10, 2004 Following a
> multi-year spending spree that pushed federal spending above $20,000 per
> household and the budget deficit up to nearly $500 billion, lawmakers are
> finally seeking ways to control federal spending. " (Cite:
> http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg1733.cfm). Bush has no problem
> spending your money and that equates perfectly to bigger government.
>
> We need a unified and fair means of voting in this country to bring some
> kind of legitimate and viable competition to our election process. I
> recommended ranked or instant run off elections. I found this on
> FairVote.org, check it out:
>
> http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm
>
> THERE IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. Stop
> voting for the lesser of two evils, you don't know the danger.
>
> Irie
> The heathen back there, pound the wall.
>
> --
> The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you
> give
> it.
> Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
>




Correspondent:: "Irie"
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:42:36 -0500

--------
I didn't say either party should listen to polls, try reading AND
comprehending. It's when they let it dictate their conduct and policy it
becomes an issue.

Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.

--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

Stop voting for the lesser of two evils: http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm


"LastDance" wrote in message
news:2vqdnWXZhrCPCxTcRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> Hey = Did you see Bush with his face on the mornimg of election = He
> apparently listen to polls too.
>
> "Irie" wrote in message
> news:7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07...
>> The good news:
>>
>> Kerry will not be president. His lack of principle, overly political,
>> opinion poll driven campaign and conduct will not be able to lead
>> American into his socialist driven policies and big government 'ideals'.
>>
>> The bad news:
>>
>> Bush is our president and he now has an even larger majority in both the
>> House and the Senate. There is no question this is the result of the
>> pure stupidity of the Left. While the entire country united as one after
>> 9-11 and our will to fight was brought to the forefront of our culture on
>> par with Pearl Harbor, the left became even more socialist and irrational
>> as ever. Falling back on the ideals of protesting the Viet Nam war, they
>> lost sight of the reality opening up today. Instead of moving with the
>> just direction of the country, the left defied it, spat on it and fell
>> into the victimhood so easy and prevalent in our society today.
>>
>> So now the balance of power is even more swayed to one party: the
>> Republicans. The same people who saw fit to investigate Clinton's penis
>> as opposed to working for the people, as they were hired to do.
>> Daschle's demise is a perfect microcosm for the entire election: in less
>> than four years he went from Majority Leader, to Minority Leader, to
>> another socialist looking for work. The Democratic party itself is going
>> in this same velocity.
>>
>> This is bad news for America. This is bad because there is no real
>> difference between Republicans or Democrats. Both parties have far more
>> in common than they have differentiating them. They bicker over bull
>> shit issues like gay marriage and abortion, two subjects they know we
>> will NEVER agree upon, while in the back ground they are either buying
>> off the corporations on one hand or the unions on the other. Neither
>> care to limit how much of our freedoms and money they waste away.
>> Therefore, any solid majority that runs across both Houses and the
>> Executive is BAD NEWS.
>>
>> WAKE UP. Liberals have to open their eyes and see that reality that
>> exists today. Your Party and the Republicans all agree with the War On
>> Terror, which includes the war in Iraq. Just look at their voting
>> records, from Kerry on down. Look at Kerry's own statement that he'd
>> vote the same way again today even knowing what he knows now. There is a
>> reason for this - we did the right thing. Your party only used the war
>> in Iraq as a divisive issue to distract from the facts: there is no real
>> difference between Kerry and Bush. Kerry can Monday morning quarter back
>> the war to death, it doesn't make it wrong. I really believe that if
>> Kerry actually had a plan as opposed to a complaint, he would have won
>> the election. But seeing he has had to say just about anything in order
>> to be electable, Kerry had not one principle to base a decision upon that
>> would have lead to a real plan to pursue the War On Terror.
>>
>> WAKE UP: Conservatives have to open their eyes and see the reality that
>> exists today as well. Republicans are not out for smaller government.
>> They run deficits as opposed to simply taking it outright as the liberals
>> do. I credit you with at least voting for the 'idea' of smaller
>> government. Yet Bush spends just as much money as Democrats, if not
>> more. Here is a quote from the Heritage Foundation: "March 10, 2004
>> Following a multi-year spending spree that pushed federal spending above
>> $20,000 per household and the budget deficit up to nearly $500 billion,
>> lawmakers are finally seeking ways to control federal spending. " (Cite:
>> http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg1733.cfm). Bush has no problem
>> spending your money and that equates perfectly to bigger government.
>>
>> We need a unified and fair means of voting in this country to bring some
>> kind of legitimate and viable competition to our election process. I
>> recommended ranked or instant run off elections. I found this on
>> FairVote.org, check it out:
>>
>> http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm
>>
>> THERE IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS. Stop
>> voting for the lesser of two evils, you don't know the danger.
>>
>> Irie
>> The heathen back there, pound the wall.
>>
>> --
>> The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you
>> give
>> it.
>> Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
>>
>
>




Correspondent:: frisbieinstein@yahoo.com (Patrick Powers)
Date: 4 Nov 2004 20:31:31 -0800

--------
"Irie" wrote in message news:<7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07>...
> WAKE UP:

If ignorance is bliss, then 'tis folly to be wise.


Correspondent:: "Irie"
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 06:59:52 -0500

--------
"Patrick Powers" wrote in message
news:9511688f.0411042031.7b62588b@posting.google.com...
> "Irie" wrote in message
> news:<7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07>...
>> WAKE UP:
>
> If ignorance is bliss, then 'tis folly to be wise.

Quite true. Do you care to remain in ignorance or do you have something to
say about the topic?

Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.

--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

Stop voting for the lesser of two evils: http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm




Correspondent:: frisbieinstein@yahoo.com (Patrick Powers)
Date: 6 Nov 2004 03:59:54 -0800

--------
"Irie" wrote in message news:...
> "Patrick Powers" wrote in message
> news:9511688f.0411042031.7b62588b@posting.google.com...
> > "Irie" wrote in message
> > news:<7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07>...
> >> WAKE UP:
> >
> > If ignorance is bliss, then 'tis folly to be wise.
>
> Quite true. Do you care to remain in ignorance or do you have something to
> say about the topic?
>

What topic?


Correspondent:: "Irie"
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 08:25:36 -0500

--------
"Patrick Powers" wrote in message
news:9511688f.0411060359.2f134f92@posting.google.com...
> "Irie" wrote in message
> news:...
>> "Patrick Powers" wrote in message
>> news:9511688f.0411042031.7b62588b@posting.google.com...
>> > "Irie" wrote in message
>> > news:<7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07>...
>> >> WAKE UP:
>> >
>> > If ignorance is bliss, then 'tis folly to be wise.
>>
>> Quite true. Do you care to remain in ignorance or do you have something
>> to
>> say about the topic?
>>
>
> What topic?

Pick on, I am sure you can read. Maybe the fact that there is no difference
between Republicans and Democrats or ranked voting would be a good start.

Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.

--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

Stop voting for the lesser of two evils: http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm




Correspondent:: polar bear
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 23:03:41 -0800

--------
In article <9511688f.0411042031.7b62588b@posting.google.com>,
frisbieinstein@yahoo.com (Patrick Powers) wrote:

> "Irie" wrote in message
> news:<7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07>...
> > WAKE UP:
>
> If ignorance is bliss, then 'tis folly to be wise.

"Ignorance is popular because it's easy to learn." --Raymond Cote

pb


Correspondent:: "Irie"
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 09:05:23 -0500

--------
"polar bear" wrote in message
news:061120042303411269%bear@pole.com...
> In article <9511688f.0411042031.7b62588b@posting.google.com>,
> frisbieinstein@yahoo.com (Patrick Powers) wrote:
>
>> "Irie" wrote in message
>> news:<7mgid.471$0Y5.105@lakeread07>...
>> > WAKE UP:
>>
>> If ignorance is bliss, then 'tis folly to be wise.
>
> "Ignorance is popular because it's easy to learn." --Raymond Cote
>
> pb

Roger that.

Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.

--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

Stop voting for the lesser of two evils: http://fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm