My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.comsucks (AssCo Assc)
Date: 15 Nov 2004 18:26:07 GMT

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“...these walls... match exactly the
description of the acropolis of Atlantis
provided by Plato in his writings,”
Sarmast said. . . “We have definitely
found the Acropolis of Atlantis,” he
affirmed, adding the site was 50
miles south-east of Cyprus.


http://tinyurl.com/5pxjl
Scotsman, UK
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Correspondent:: bobdiddley@aol.com (3D Bob Not Diddley)
Date: 17 Nov 2004 03:24:56 GMT

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>.these walls... match exactly the
>description of the acropolis of Atlantis
>provided by Plato in his writings,”
>Sarmast said. . . “We have definitely
>found the Acropolis of Atlantis,” he
>affirmed, adding the site was 50
>miles south-east of Cyprus.
>
>
>http://tinyurl.com/5pxjl
>Scotsman, UK

This fellow was on As It Happens on CBC Radio last night - his website is
discoveryofatlantis.com
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Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:05:00 -0800

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AssCo Assc wrote:
>
> “...these walls... match exactly the
> description of the acropolis of Atlantis
> provided by Plato in his writings,â€*
> Sarmast said. . . “We have definitely
> found the Acropolis of Atlantis,â€* he
> affirmed, adding the site was 50
> miles south-east of Cyprus.
>
Reality Check:

Plato in his ONE WRITING on the topic describes one FICTIONAL CHARACTER
telling another FICTIONAL CHARACTER what a third FICTIONAL CHARACTER
told him about something that supposedly happened nine thousand years
earlier, which appears NOWHERE ELSE in contemporary fact or fiction.


Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 06:20:21 GMT

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In article <419ADBFB.DC8E8256@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:

> Plato in his ONE WRITING on the topic describes one FICTIONAL CHARACTER
> telling another FICTIONAL CHARACTER what a third FICTIONAL CHARACTER
> told him about something that supposedly happened nine thousand years
> earlier, which appears NOWHERE ELSE in contemporary fact or fiction.

That sounds like a fair description of alt.slack. I mean, I've seen you
sing a song onstage in person and I still think of you as the Bob Hope
of a flashback I had recently. My sweat droplets were ganging up and
singing Jivaro posse-gatherin' songs. Awful stuff, just awful.

--

HellPope Huey
Sweet 16 is great as a birthday party,
but less so as an IQ or number of incarcerations

"Girls are not as good as they look."
- Lydia Lunch, "Bowery Blues"

Well, Art is Art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water.
And east is east and west is west
and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce
they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.
Now you tell me what you know.
- Groucho Marx


Correspondent:: urpansoph@aol.com (Ur Pansoph)
Date: 18 Nov 2004 20:28:08 GMT

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<>

Are you thinking of Critias or Timaeus?

<<... one FICTIONAL CHARACTER telling another
FICTIONAL CHARACTER what a third FICTIONAL
CHARACTER told him... >>

Hm, I dunno if Socrates and Critias are fictional
or not. . . considering the realistic portraits of
Socrates I lean to the side of historical personnage
for him and Plato at least. Solon, the primary
source accouding to the possibly-fictional
Critias, was historically a legislator (although
best remembered as one of the "seven sages"
along with Thales, mentioned on alt.slack recently,
and our old friend Bias). Solon made historical
impact with his revamped Athenian constitution
and is referred to in various fragments from Laertius
to Plutarch and repealing Draconian law.

Critical interpretation of historical figures is
a good thing -- the Solon of Plato differs from
the Solon of Heraclitus and both likely differ
from the actual Solon as much as George C.
Scott's portrayal of Patton on film differs
from the historical Patton (or Che Guevara in
that new movie).

Here's Critias:
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html

And Timaeus:
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html

<<.. about something that
supposedly happened nine thousand years
earlier, which appears NOWHERE ELSE in
contemporary fact or fiction.>>

Hey -- in CONTEMPORY facto-fiction/ficto-faction
Atlantis is still quite popular.


Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:33:47 GMT

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Ur Pansoph wrote:

> <>
>
> Are you thinking of Critias or Timaeus?
>
> <<... one FICTIONAL CHARACTER telling another
> FICTIONAL CHARACTER what a third FICTIONAL
> CHARACTER told him... >>
>
> Hm, I dunno if Socrates and Critias are fictional
> or not. . . considering the realistic portraits of
> Socrates I lean to the side of historical personnage
> for him and Plato at least. Solon, the primary
> source accouding to the possibly-fictional
> Critias, was historically a legislator (although
> best remembered as one of the "seven sages"
> along with Thales, mentioned on alt.slack recently,
> and our old friend Bias). Solon made historical
> impact with his revamped Athenian constitution
> and is referred to in various fragments from Laertius
> to Plutarch and repealing Draconian law.
>
> Critical interpretation of historical figures is
> a good thing -- the Solon of Plato differs from
> the Solon of Heraclitus and both likely differ
> from the actual Solon as much as George C.
> Scott's portrayal of Patton on film differs
> from the historical Patton (or Che Guevara in
> that new movie).
>
> Here's Critias:
> http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html
>
> And Timaeus:
> http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html
>
> <<.. about something that
> supposedly happened nine thousand years
> earlier, which appears NOWHERE ELSE in
> contemporary fact or fiction.>>
>
> Hey -- in CONTEMPORY facto-fiction/ficto-faction
> Atlantis is still quite popular.

Heh! Heh-heh! He said Heraclitus!





Correspondent:: urpansoph@aol.com (Ur Pansoph)
Date: 18 Nov 2004 20:39:54 GMT

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<< Heh! Heh-heh! He said Heraclitus! >>

yeah but i should have said,
"Solon made historical
impact with his revamped Athenian
constitution and is referred to in various
fragments from Laertius to Plutarch
and [is historically remembered for]
repealing Draconian law."




Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:43:56 -0800

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Ur Pansoph wrote:
>
> <>
>
> Are you thinking of Critias or Timaeus?

Exactly.

>
> <<... one FICTIONAL CHARACTER telling another
> FICTIONAL CHARACTER what a third FICTIONAL
> CHARACTER told him... >>
>
> Hm, I dunno if Socrates and Critias are fictional
> or not. . . considering the realistic portraits of
> Socrates I lean to the side of historical personnage
> for him and Plato at least.

I read a novel once about how H. P. Lovecraft and Houdini blew up a nazi
submarine, and one about how Edgar Allan Poe traveled through the hollow
earth and out the other end.