I have one word for smug Bush supporters:

Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:51:05 GMT

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Nixon.


Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:19:44 -0700

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>
> Nixon.

Yep, he really kicked McGovern's ass good.

Ended the draft.

Opened China.

And he Resigned for the good of the country,
rather than face Impeachment.


--
"Mars was destroyed with weapons from the future.
There, does that make you feel any better?"
-- nu-monet


Correspondent:: Rabbi Jacklyn Hyde
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:25:54 GMT

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nu-monet v7.0 wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>
>>Nixon.
>
>
> Yep, he really kicked McGovern's ass good.
>
> Ended the draft.
>
> Opened China.
>
> And he Resigned for the good of the country,
> rather than face Impeachment.
>
>
You've been reading Doonesbury this week, haven't you?


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:33:55 GMT

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nu-monet v7.0 wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>>
>> Nixon.
>
> Yep, he really kicked McGovern's ass good.
>
> Ended the draft.
>
> Opened China.
>
> And he Resigned for the good of the country,
> rather than face Impeachment.

I was alluding to the fact that Nixon was flaming political wreckage
within two years of his re-election.

But you're right, he really was an all-around great guy, wasn't he.
Just ask any of the hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians he
killed. If they weren't dead, I'm sure they'd all have thanked him for
saving them from communism or whatever.


Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:51:23 -0700

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>
> But you're right, he really was an all-around
> great guy, wasn't he. Just ask any of the
> hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians he
> killed. If they weren't dead, I'm sure they'd
> all have thanked him for saving them from
> communism or whatever.

Funny you should mention that. After the war, the
North Vietnamese confessed that the B-52 strikes
came very close to forcing them to quit.

And yes, I imagine Cambodia would have been a nicer
place if the Red Khmer hadn't conquered it and
killed, what, some THREE MILLION?

Personally, I think the whole Watergate thing was
a minor scandal created out of fear that Nixon was
about to launch a MASSIVE witch hunt based on the
question: "Why did we lose in Vietnam? Whose
fault is it?" Watergate was just going to be used
as a bargaining chip.

But then, for some reason, Nixon didn't start his
witch hunt. So, what the Hell?, we might as well
snark him over this stuff, and see how much political
capital we can make of it.

The amount of cynicism involved in the prosecution
of Watergate made me half sick. Nixon's inability
to defend himself made me all the way sick. When
his own republican congressmen turned on him, I
just said "fuck it." Traitors and scumbags.


--
"YOU BELONG TO US NOW!"
"GET DOWN WITH MY SICKNESS!!"

--Kino Beman, brand name


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 02:14:33 GMT

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nu-monet v7.0 wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>>
>> But you're right, he really was an all-around
>> great guy, wasn't he. Just ask any of the
>> hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians he
>> killed. If they weren't dead, I'm sure they'd
>> all have thanked him for saving them from
>> communism or whatever.
>
> Funny you should mention that. After the war, the
> North Vietnamese confessed that the B-52 strikes
> came very close to forcing them to quit.
>
> And yes, I imagine Cambodia would have been a nicer
> place if the Red Khmer hadn't conquered it and
> killed, what, some THREE MILLION?
>
> Personally, I think the whole Watergate thing was
> a minor scandal created out of fear that Nixon was
> about to launch a MASSIVE witch hunt based on the
> question: "Why did we lose in Vietnam? Whose
> fault is it?" Watergate was just going to be used
> as a bargaining chip.
>
> But then, for some reason, Nixon didn't start his
> witch hunt. So, what the Hell?, we might as well
> snark him over this stuff, and see how much political
> capital we can make of it.
>
> The amount of cynicism involved in the prosecution
> of Watergate made me half sick. Nixon's inability
> to defend himself made me all the way sick. When
> his own republican congressmen turned on him, I
> just said "fuck it." Traitors and scumbags.

Are you one of those guys who think those hippie traitor scumbags at
Kent State got what was coming to them?


Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 19:30:18 -0700

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
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> Are you one of those guys who think those
> hippie traitor scumbags at Kent State got
> what was coming to them?

Hippie traitor scumbag DUMBASSES, actually.

Really smart idea, to charge a bunch of armed
national guardsmen who are pretty much encircled
while throwing rocks and bottles at them, when
they have fucking rifles!

That squad needed some serious target practice.
Optimally, you shoot for the belt buckle.

However, had I been in charge, those guys would
have been putting out so many negative waves
that the protestors would have departed without
injury. Just have the soldiers stand in line,
and start doing bayonette-less bayonette drills,
while advancing towards the rioters.

As in "PUSH! PULL! BUTT-STROKE! RIGHT! LEFT!
PUSH! PULL! BUTT-STROKE! RIGHT! LEFT!"

With each command they advance three steps. It
would actually close the gap pretty quick. Then
any DUMBASS to wants to stand there and duke it
out gets a busted jaw.

And it's the guy in charge's job to shoot any
DUMBASS who throws a molotov cocktail or some
really dangerous shit like that.

But the fault is on the students. You don't
charge scared men with guns.

--
"Money can't buy you happiness,
but when you're poor, you can't
buy shit, and nobody will loan
you happiness."
--nu-monet


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:49:09 GMT

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nu-monet v7.0 wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>>
>> Are you one of those guys who think those
>> hippie traitor scumbags at Kent State got
>> what was coming to them?
>
> Hippie traitor scumbag DUMBASSES, actually.
>
> Really smart idea, to charge a bunch of armed
> national guardsmen who are pretty much encircled
> while throwing rocks and bottles at them, when
> they have fucking rifles!
>
> That squad needed some serious target practice.
> Optimally, you shoot for the belt buckle.
>
> However, had I been in charge, those guys would
> have been putting out so many negative waves
> that the protestors would have departed without
> injury. Just have the soldiers stand in line,
> and start doing bayonette-less bayonette drills,
> while advancing towards the rioters.
>
> As in "PUSH! PULL! BUTT-STROKE! RIGHT! LEFT!
> PUSH! PULL! BUTT-STROKE! RIGHT! LEFT!"
>
> With each command they advance three steps. It
> would actually close the gap pretty quick. Then
> any DUMBASS to wants to stand there and duke it
> out gets a busted jaw.
>
> And it's the guy in charge's job to shoot any
> DUMBASS who throws a molotov cocktail or some
> really dangerous shit like that.
>
> But the fault is on the students. You don't
> charge scared men with guns.

nu-monet is a lot more fun when you read his posts using a "Jack
Nicholson as Colonel Jessup in A Few Good Men" voice.


Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:10:41 -0800

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On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 07:49:09 GMT, Cardinal Vertigo
wrote:

>nu-monet is a lot more fun when you read his posts using a "Jack
>Nicholson as Colonel Jessup in A Few Good Men" voice.

I've been trying to use "Dean Martin impersonating Bob Marley" but I
just can't make it work.

--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
I want a rubber stamp that says "My Slaves Grew Hemp!"

iggy topo



Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 06 Nov 2004 15:12:31 GMT

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>Are you one of those guys who think those hippie traitor scumbags at
>Kent State got what was coming to them?
>

On two of the Students killed at Kent State we part of the actual "Protest"

The rest and most of the wounded were (includeng on ROTC Member killed) wher
just changing classes at the time.

The only good thing that came out of all this was:

After Kent State, National Guard Troops were required to go to Army Basic
Training (not required before)

DEVO was formed

Chrissy Hinds left the US for England and formed the Pretenders.


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:49:45 -0800

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:51:23 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
wrote:

>Personally, I think the whole Watergate thing was
>a minor scandal created out of fear that Nixon was
>about to launch a MASSIVE witch hunt based on the
>question: "Why did we lose in Vietnam? Whose
>fault is it?" Watergate was just going to be used
>as a bargaining chip.
>

Watergate was created out of Nixon's intense megalomania, his belief
in his own absolute rightness on all issues at all times. Regardless
of who stated the ball rolling, Nixon was willing to break the law, he
believed his own absolute rightness let him step over lines that were
set there for lesser men.

In that sense, he's a LOT like Guuber.


--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but
don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
- Groucho Marx



Correspondent:: "ArWeGod"
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:02:57 GMT

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"Zapanaz" wrote in message
news:t6qlo05ucvcol9prqdtbo0n70md0nefo39@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:51:23 -0700, "nu-monet v7.0"
> wrote:
>
> >Personally, I think the whole Watergate thing was
> >a minor scandal created out of fear that Nixon was
> >about to launch a MASSIVE witch hunt based on the
> >question: "Why did we lose in Vietnam? Whose
> >fault is it?" Watergate was just going to be used
> >as a bargaining chip.
> >
> Watergate was created out of Nixon's intense megalomania, his belief
> in his own absolute rightness on all issues at all times. Regardless
> of who stated the ball rolling, Nixon was willing to break the law, he
> believed his own absolute rightness let him step over lines that were
> set there for lesser men.
>
> In that sense, he's a LOT like Guuber.

That's why the only three-year president said there should be term
limits. An honest man who realized that controlling that much power
corrupts mere mortals.

I believe the government of the USA should change parties every 12 years
at least. Because, the president isn't in control of all aspects of the
government. Especially a dumbshit like Bushie, Jr. But the power brokers
behind the throne are still there. After this presidency, a change to
Democrat will benefit the world by throwing out some folks that have
been behind-the-scenes power-brokers for 20 years.

USA sucks, time to go to Australia. Who's with me?

--
ArWeDoomed




Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 06 Nov 2004 15:20:13 GMT

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>USA sucks, time to go to Australia. Who's with me?

Too late, Australia is in bed with the Bushies. They like cheap oil and cheap
labor too.


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: "Kevin Cunningham"
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:23:08 GMT

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"nu-monet v7.0" wrote in message
news:418ADC9B.2D88@succeeds.com...
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>>
>> But you're right, he really was an all-around
>> great guy, wasn't he. Just ask any of the
>> hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians he
>> killed. If they weren't dead, I'm sure they'd
>> all have thanked him for saving them from
>> communism or whatever.
>
> Funny you should mention that. After the war, the
> North Vietnamese confessed that the B-52 strikes
> came very close to forcing them to quit.
>
> And yes, I imagine Cambodia would have been a nicer
> place if the Red Khmer hadn't conquered it and
> killed, what, some THREE MILLION?
>
> Personally, I think the whole Watergate thing was
> a minor scandal created out of fear that Nixon was
> about to launch a MASSIVE witch hunt based on the
> question: "Why did we lose in Vietnam? Whose
> fault is it?" Watergate was just going to be used
> as a bargaining chip.
>
> But then, for some reason, Nixon didn't start his
> witch hunt. So, what the Hell?, we might as well
> snark him over this stuff, and see how much political
> capital we can make of it.
>
> The amount of cynicism involved in the prosecution
> of Watergate made me half sick. Nixon's inability
> to defend himself made me all the way sick. When
> his own republican congressmen turned on him, I
> just said "fuck it." Traitors and scumbags.
>
>
Jeez, every once in a while I read something so dumb on this NG that I am
really impressed. The above post is mind blowingly dumb, so stupid, it
opens whole new worlds of stupidity.

Nixon caused employees under his control to comit burglary, a felony, and
the to conseal the felony through the use of illegal intimidation and lies.
These acts led to Haldeman, Ehrlichman and just about everybody else in the
White House being convicted and Nixon resigned. This is a "minor scandal"?
Whats a big time scandal? WWI, WWII?

Rev. Dr. Junior Mints
Anti-Pope of Atlanta




Correspondent:: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)
Date: 06 Nov 2004 15:09:43 GMT

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>But you're right, he really was an all-around great guy, wasn't he.
>Just ask any of the hundreds of thousands of Cambodian civilians he
>killed. If they weren't dead, I'm sure they'd all have thanked him for
>saving them from communism or whatever.
>

And lets not forget his support of Free and Democratic Governments in South
America.

I bet his old buddies in the military in Chile, Argentina and Guatamala can
vouch for that!


MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

"War hath no Fury like a non-combatants"

Charles E. Montague


Correspondent:: nenslo
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:29:53 -0800

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote:
>
> Nixon.

I was thinking more like "Winner."


Correspondent:: jethro_hell@yahoo.com (Rev Jethro Hell)
Date: 5 Nov 2004 07:14:56 -0800

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Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
> Nixon.

Funny. I would've thought that more of Kerry had he won. Since he,
like Nixon, would have inherited a war that he didn't start. And
suffered the consequences, win, lose or draw.

And, as nu-monet has already so eloquently pointed out, Nixon wasn't
that bad considering the zeitgeist of his era. And in 1981 when Raygun
(ZAP!) started his constitutional slash and burn program (pogrom?), he
destroyed as many "liberal" policies created by Nixon as he did those
created by FDR, et al. (Source: "Reagan for Dummies" Check it out!
Great paperback).
Also, Bush enjoys a MUCH MORE docile population, especially and
regrettably today's youth, than Nixon (now THAT was an
understatement!) and much broader control of the overpop via media as
well.

Remember kids. Don't be fooled. The truth remains..."If voting changed
anything it would be illegal".


Correspondent:: Cardinal Vertigo
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 19:15:20 GMT

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Rev Jethro Hell wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo wrote in message news:...
>> Nixon.
>
> Funny. I would've thought that more of Kerry had he won. Since he,
> like Nixon, would have inherited a war that he didn't start. And
> suffered the consequences, win, lose or draw.
>
> And, as nu-monet has already so eloquently pointed out, Nixon wasn't
> that bad considering the zeitgeist of his era. And in 1981 when Raygun
> (ZAP!) started his constitutional slash and burn program (pogrom?), he
> destroyed as many "liberal" policies created by Nixon as he did those
> created by FDR, et al. (Source: "Reagan for Dummies" Check it out!
> Great paperback).
> Also, Bush enjoys a MUCH MORE docile population, especially and
> regrettably today's youth, than Nixon (now THAT was an
> understatement!) and much broader control of the overpop via media as
> well.
>
> Remember kids. Don't be fooled. The truth remains..."If voting changed
> anything it would be illegal".

That's right, kids, stay disenfranchised. Don't think about who profits
from your disenfranchisement; just keep that apathy on a steady low boil.