Correspondent:: "Rich Clark, aka Left Reverend Egg Plant, ULC, CotSG"
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:10:46 -0500
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Barnabas Shitgulp wrote:
>
> Then I realized I was born on December 9, 1980. It probably doesn't mean
> anything but does anyone know what happened on December 8, 1980? Like I said
> it really doesn't make any sense. I was just having a moment...
Yeah, I *remember* what happened on 12/8/80, despite trying desperately
to forget everything I know: John Lennon was shot that day. Like many
who say they remember where they were when Kennedy was shot, I remember
where I was and what I was doing when I heard the news.
Correspondent:: "nu-monet v7.0"
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:24:40 -0700
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Barnabas Shitgulp wrote:
>
> Then I realized I was born on December 9, 1980.
> It probably doesn't mean anything but does
> anyone know what happened on December 8, 1980?
Yeah, but on your birthday in 1983, Slim Pickens
died. Officially, it's St. Chesty Puller day,
which means a lot if you are a Marine SubGenius.
--
Herring communicate with each other
via a high-pitched, "raspberry"-like
sound emitted from their anuses.
These noises are not produced by
digestive gases.
-- from 'The New Scientist'
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:04:49 GMT
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"nu-monet v7.0" wrote:
> Barnabas Shitgulp wrote:
> >
> > Then I realized I was born on December 9, 1980.
> > It probably doesn't mean anything but does
> > anyone know what happened on December 8, 1980?
>
> Yeah, but on your birthday in 1983, Slim Pickens
> died. Officially, it's St. Chesty Puller day,
> which means a lot if you are a Marine SubGenius.
Yeah, my planning advisor in undergraduate was an old
bird colonel who'd been a wargamer at the Pentagon.
He'd grown up in Nicaragua as an Army brat when his
dad had been down south with Chesty Puller when Puller
was chasing Sandino around in the jungle. My advisor
had caught a rifle butt in the face at one time, so he had a
funny stainless-steel grin, sort of like "Jaws"
Correspondent:: wbarwell
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:35:13 -0500
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Barnabas Shitgulp wrote:
> I was sitting here in bed thinking about this paper I have to write for a
> humanities class. Its going to be about the greek philosopher Thales, who
> was considered the first greek philosopher because he attempted to explain
> the universe without attributing events to the gods. This was called the
> discovery of nature...that the universe was governed by natural laws and
> not the arbitrary whims of gods.
>
> So this guy is the first to attempt a secular explanation of the universe,
> effectively separating humans from their role within it. He's responsible
> for nearly all Western society's advancements in math and sciences. Anyone
> feel free to correct me because I'm no expert here.
>
> So now, today we have a West versus the rest of the world scenerio. And I
> just read here about a man shouting "Allah akbar" in front of the
> Whitehouse and self-immolating. God is great. But of course most
> Westerners believe GOD is on our side but our society is the one who
> formulated the secular and a separation of self from God. Does that make
> sense?
>
Secular and religous aren't necessarily alien. For example,
due to abuses by the RCC, Mexico long had one of the most
officially secular governments on earth. Yet remained highly religous.
And Catholic. It makes great sense. American secularism was
created because our forfathers knew the history of the religous wars
of the 1500's that killed 1/4 of Europe, and knew the baleful history
of religous state churches after the English civil wars and
the ugliness of Puitanism and similar movements. The oppression of Quakers
and Baptists and others in America were fresh in their minds.
Nor were the ancient Greeks secular, Atheism was a capital offence
with them. Most of them conceded there was at least a prime mover god,
some thought of gods as personal, some as metaphorical, some in
a pantheistic manner. The Atheists among them played word games.
Epicurus, "all things are full of gods". By which he meant nothing
is done by gods. CYA pantheism.
Its just Thales and others did not see everyday activity in all its minutiae
as being some gods doing, god(s) would create a mechanism, let
it this studff do its thing and that made the world what it was.
Thales was asking, what is the substance of the world and how does it work,
how does it make things what they are?
Most early Greeks agreed the stars were divine bodies.
Anaxagoras got in trouble for saying the sun was a ball of fire.
Heroclitus thought ultimate matter was fire. Later Stoics
had ideas of two kinds of matter, a matter of mundane world
stuff, a finer sort that made up gods and souls.
All of which set the stage for neo-Platonism and death
of critical thinking and the onset of the dark ages.
> So then I thought of this Timewave Zero theory and the year 2012. I
> wondered if Jesus, Mohammad, the Buddha, Krishna, Amon-Ra, and J.R. "BOB"
> Dobbs would descend on a flying saucer to the field of Armageddon where
> the hosts of light and darkness have gathered to battle it out and take
> the good guys to Planet X etc etc etc.
No. We are on our own. Right now we are in a low point.
But that may change later as the pinkness of Bush
drives America into collapse. Greedy capitolists have all but denuded
America of manufactoring jobs, and now we are working on exporting
the white collar jobs. When the only job around is at Wallmart
or competeing with the Mexicans as carpenters, things may change.
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
Correspondent:: Zapanaz
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:16:49 -0800
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:35:13 -0500, wbarwell
wrote:
>American secularism was
>created because our forfathers knew the history of the religous wars
>of the 1500's that killed 1/4 of Europe,
You say that like it's a bad thing.
I mean really, let's say they do another religious war like that and
it kills 1/4 of the population of North America. All of the people
killed would, you assume, be people willing to fight over religion.
You know, IDIOTS. Furthermore, most of them would be men. 1/4 of the
total population, where all of them are men, would work out to like
1/2 of the male population. Which means a huge DROP in the number of
men, which means relatively a huge JUMP in the number of available
women.
I mean so long as they are willing to fight with arquebuses and swords
like in the 1500's so they don't break anything important, I say go
for it.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"If you understand, things are as they are. If you do not understand,
things are as they are."
- Zen Master Gensha
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:53:56 GMT
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Zapanaz wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:35:13 -0500, wbarwell
> wrote:
>
> >American secularism was
> >created because our forfathers knew the history of the religous wars
> >of the 1500's that killed 1/4 of Europe,
>
> You say that like it's a bad thing.
>
> I mean really, let's say they do another religious war like that and
> it kills 1/4 of the population of North America. All of the people
> killed would, you assume, be people willing to fight over religion.
> You know, IDIOTS. Furthermore, most of them would be men. 1/4 of the
> total population, where all of them are men, would work out to like
> 1/2 of the male population. Which means a huge DROP in the number of
> men, which means relatively a huge JUMP in the number of available
> women.
>
> I mean so long as they are willing to fight with arquebuses and swords
> like in the 1500's so they don't break anything important, I say go
> for it.
>
Oh, I wish I was a 7-foot tall talking carrot
All the vegans would take a bite of me
And by the time this song is over
They would be digesting me
--Stan's International House of Rutabagas
Correspondent:: HellPope Huey
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 12:25:27 GMT
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In article <41A316C2.1244BECB@ranunculus.org>,
Konig Pruss, GfbAEV wrote:
> Zapanaz wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:35:13 -0500, wbarwell
> > wrote:
> >
> > >American secularism was
> > >created because our forfathers knew the history of the religous wars
> > >of the 1500's that killed 1/4 of Europe,
> >
> > You say that like it's a bad thing.
> > I mean really, let's say they do another religious war like that and
> > it kills 1/4 of the population of North America. All of the people
> > killed would, you assume, be people willing to fight over religion.
> > You know, IDIOTS. Furthermore, most of them would be men. 1/4 of the
> > total population, where all of them are men, would work out to like
> > 1/2 of the male population. Which means a huge DROP in the number of
> > men, which means relatively a huge JUMP in the number of available
> > women.
> > I mean so long as they are willing to fight with arquebuses and swords
> > like in the 1500's so they don't break anything important, I say go
> > for it.
> >
> Oh, I wish I was a 7-foot tall talking carrot
> All the vegans would take a bite of me
> And by the time this song is over
> They would be digesting me
> --Stan's International House of Rutabagas
I'll bet you were in Joe's sex dream with Divine.
--
HellPope Huey
The abject beauty of the blah blah blah
is directly and inversely proportional
to the grinding horror of the ungh urgh argh.
For every human problem,
there is a neat, simple solution;
and it is always wrong
- H. L. Mencken
"I like my sex the way I like my basketball:
one-on-one and with as little rimming as possible."
- "Naked Gun 33 1/3: The Final Insult"
Correspondent:: König Prüß, GfbAEV
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:02:38 GMT
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HellPope Huey wrote:
> In article <41A316C2.1244BECB@ranunculus.org>,
> Konig Pruss, GfbAEV wrote:
> > Zapanaz wrote:
> > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:35:13 -0500, wbarwell
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >American secularism was
> > > >created because our forfathers knew the history of the religous wars
> > > >of the 1500's that killed 1/4 of Europe,
> > >
> > > You say that like it's a bad thing.
> > > I mean really, let's say they do another religious war like that and
> > > it kills 1/4 of the population of North America. All of the people
> > > killed would, you assume, be people willing to fight over religion.
> > > You know, IDIOTS. Furthermore, most of them would be men. 1/4 of the
> > > total population, where all of them are men, would work out to like
> > > 1/2 of the male population. Which means a huge DROP in the number of
> > > men, which means relatively a huge JUMP in the number of available
> > > women.
> > > I mean so long as they are willing to fight with arquebuses and swords
> > > like in the 1500's so they don't break anything important, I say go
> > > for it.
> > >
> > Oh, I wish I was a 7-foot tall talking carrot
> > All the vegans would take a bite of me
> > And by the time this song is over
> > They would be digesting me
> > --Stan's International House of Rutabagas
>
> I'll bet you were in Joe's sex dream with Divine.
>
Tell yer ma
Tell yer pa
I'm gonna send you
Back to Arkansas
Ooo-wah, ooo-wah
Awright, OK
What I say
What I be talkin' 'bout
--"Bob"'s International House of Dog Jakes
(We be got it goin' on up in de house!)
Correspondent:: polar bear
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:38:17 -0800
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In article <10pjcl5n59lbs9e@corp.supernews.com>, "Barnabas Shitgulp"
wrote:
snip
> Then I realized I was born on December 9, 1980. It probably doesn't mean
> anything but does anyone know what happened on December 8, 1980? Like I said
> it really doesn't make any sense. I was just having a moment...
Holy Crap! That's the day the Union Pacific Railroad announced it's
merger with the Missouri Pacific!
Weird!
pb
Correspondent:: Baldin Pramer
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:32:02 -0700
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Barnabas Shitgulp wrote:
> It probably doesn't mean
> anything but does anyone know what happened on December 8, 1980?
You was born.
--
Sir Baldin Pramer, R.P.A.
Correspondent:: drdark@37.com (DoktorDark)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 07:32:17 -0800
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"Barnabas Shitgulp" wrote in message news:<10pjcl5n59lbs9e@corp.supernews.com>...
> I wondered
> if Jesus, Mohammad, the Buddha, Krishna, Amon-Ra, and J.R. "BOB" Dobbs would
> descend on a flying saucer to the field of Armageddon where the hosts of
> light and darkness have gathered to battle it out and take the good guys to
> Planet X etc etc etc.
>
Of course! But the important question is, have you sent your $30 to
"Bob" yet? Because you're still pink to "Bob" if he hasn't seen your
$30 yet. No $30, no salvation. And July 5th at 7 AM can come at any
moment now, since the Xists have time control, and can choose to
induce X-Day at any time due to direct intervation upon the past, at
any moment in the future. So don't wait until 2012. Terence McKenna
didn't. He's DEAD. Don't delay, sent $30 to "Bob" today! On-line
ordination available at subgenius.com
Correspondent:: asscoassc@aol.comsucks (AssCo Assc)
Date: 16 Nov 2004 19:08:06 GMT
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<< I was sitting here in bed thinking about
this paper I have to write for a humanities
class. Its going to be about the greek philo-
sopher Thales, who was considered the
first greek philosopher because he attempted
to explain the universe without attributing
events to the gods. This was called the
discovery of nature...that the universe
was governed by natural laws and not the
arbitrary whims of gods.>>
The lasting contributions of Thales to
modern science and society are his
astronomical calculations that aided the
ancient Greek mariners.
If your professors and textbooks are
somehow trying to ascribe Thales as
an influential theologist who poo-pooed
primitive concepts of polytheism and
pantheism, they are mistaken.
Thales was a Pre-Socratic and therefore
a product of a polytheistic paradigm
popular among the populus of his time.
Knowledge about the theology of Thales
comes from largely from the "Lives"
of Laertius, Seneca and Aristotle. Laertius
reports that Thales believed the soul
to be immortal; Aristotle suggested that
Thales thought that "all things are full of
gods" -- therefore the theology of Thales
is probably most correctly deemed
Pantheistic. Aertius also crediteed Thales
with saying "the mind of the world is god
and the sum of all things is besouled and
full of daimons; right through the elemental
moisture there penetrates a divine power
that moves it."
Thales believed that water was the primary
element from which came life and matter.
Poseidon was the cthonic Greek deity of
water. Whereas Thales believed the prime
mover was water and that water had a soul,
and that all things are full of gods and daimons,
he would likely be found worshipping at the
temple of Poseidon on ocassion as was
proper in Pre-Socratic society.
<
explanation of the universe, effectively separating
humans from their role within it.>>
His brand of "materialism" was an animate
one -- animated by gods. Nothing was "seperate
from the gods" [secular].
<
society's advancements in math and sciences.>>
Hyperbole. He, apparently, did plot some nice
triangles. which were, allegedly, inspired from
or taught by Egyptians and Persians (lore has
it that Pythagoras told him to go to Egypt to
study).
<
is on our side but our society is the one who
formulated the secular and a separation of self
from God. Does that make sense?>>
Every idiot believes that god is on their side,
"Western" or not. So, in light of my previous
explaination, no, sorry, no sense.
<
complex though.>>
Wait 'till you get a load of the nails.
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Correspondent:: "BEN"
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 23:07:17 +1100
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"Barnabas Shitgulp" wrote in message
news:10pjcl5n59lbs9e@corp.supernews.com...
> It probably doesn't mean
> anything but does anyone know what happened on December 8, 1980?
yeah, i was 6 months and two days old
Correspondent:: kdetal@aol.com (kdetal)
Date: 18 Nov 2004 17:13:51 GMT
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>> It probably doesn't mean
>> anything but does anyone know what happened on December 8, 1980?
I took down my poster of John Lennon and put up my poster of The Clash, London
Calling.
--
"It is the human situation that is basically tragic. Right and Left
revolutionaries cannot alter this basic dilemma....the most radical Left-wing
group has no program to overcome death. The entire Right-Left establishment is
still death oriented."