ethical question about feeding geese
Posted by:: "just john"
Date: 13 Mar 2005 12:02:45 -0800
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Okay, I hear that the international foie gras industry has some people
upset because the geese in question are force-fed in a rather gross
manner that causes a lot of pain to the birds.
I think back to my youth, when I saw chickens get their heads chopped
off and then saw them run around like, yes, chickens with their heads
cut off. Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
decapitation.
So, I'm wondering if the same is true for geese. Could we just chop
off the head, and attach blood, air and food tubes to them and pump
away?
With no head there, what could be suffering?
--
* Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *
Posted by:: "Ellis Dee"
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:06:30 -0500
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http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/
"just john" wrote
> Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
> and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
> decapitation.
Posted by:: fungus
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:03:04 +0100
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Ellis Dee wrote:
> http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/
>
> "just john" wrote
>
>>Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
>>and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
>>decapitation.
>
Quote: "It was determined that ax blade had missed
the jugular vein and a clot had prevented Mike from
bleeding to death. Although most of his head was in
a jar, most of his brain stem and one ear was left
on his body."
--
fungus
Posted by:: nenslo
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 13:15:45 -0800
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just john wrote:
>
> Okay, I hear that the international foie gras industry has some people
> upset because the geese in question are force-fed in a rather gross
> manner that causes a lot of pain to the birds.
>
> I think back to my youth, when I saw chickens get their heads chopped
> off and then saw them run around like, yes, chickens with their heads
> cut off. Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
> and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
> decapitation.
>
> So, I'm wondering if the same is true for geese. Could we just chop
> off the head, and attach blood, air and food tubes to them and pump
> away?
>
> With no head there, what could be suffering?
>
Your ass, with me kicking it.
Posted by:: König Prüße, GfbAEV
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:51:00 GMT
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nenslo wrote:
>just john wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I hear that the international foie gras industry has some people
>> upset because the geese in question are force-fed in a rather gross
>> manner that causes a lot of pain to the birds.
>>
>> I think back to my youth, when I saw chickens get their heads chopped
>> off and then saw them run around like, yes, chickens with their heads
>> cut off. Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
>> and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
>> decapitation.
>>
>> So, I'm wondering if the same is true for geese. Could we just chop
>> off the head, and attach blood, air and food tubes to them and pump
>> away?
>>
>> With no head there, what could be suffering?
>>
>
>Your ass, with me kicking it.
Have you been watching "That 70's Show" again?
Posted by:: "Doktor Dark"
Date: 13 Mar 2005 14:55:51 -0800
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Nenslo is your penultimate "CROSS poster", 'cuz he's generally cross &
likes to crucify people with his posts.
Posted by:: 211
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 23:05:53 -0800
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nenslo wrote:
> just john wrote:
>
>>Okay, I hear that the international foie gras industry has some people
>>upset because the geese in question are force-fed in a rather gross
>>manner that causes a lot of pain to the birds.
>>
>>I think back to my youth, when I saw chickens get their heads chopped
>>off and then saw them run around like, yes, chickens with their heads
>>cut off. Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
>>and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
>>decapitation.
>>
>>So, I'm wondering if the same is true for geese. Could we just chop
>>off the head, and attach blood, air and food tubes to them and pump
>>away?
>>
>>With no head there, what could be suffering?
>>
>
>
> Your ass, with me kicking it.
No. Just chop off the head and then pump away.
Posted by:: nenslo
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:18:06 -0800
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211 wrote:
>
> nenslo wrote:
> > just john wrote:
> >
> >>Okay, I hear that the international foie gras industry has some people
> >>upset because the geese in question are force-fed in a rather gross
> >>manner that causes a lot of pain to the birds.
> >>
> >>I think back to my youth, when I saw chickens get their heads chopped
> >>off and then saw them run around like, yes, chickens with their heads
> >>cut off. Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
> >>and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
> >>decapitation.
> >>
> >>So, I'm wondering if the same is true for geese. Could we just chop
> >>off the head, and attach blood, air and food tubes to them and pump
> >>away?
> >>
> >>With no head there, what could be suffering?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Your ass, with me kicking it.
> No. Just chop off the head and then pump away.
Oh for pete's sake, not NECK STUMP FUCKING again!
Posted by:: fungus
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:28:07 +0100
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just john wrote:
>
Oh, look! ANOTHER crosspost to alt.slack, LOL!!!!!!
--
fungus
Posted by:: "just john"
Date: 14 Mar 2005 05:01:15 -0800
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No, it's a crosspost FROM alt.slack!
Posted by:: Zapanaz
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:05:45 -0800
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On 13 Mar 2005 12:02:45 -0800, "just john"
wrote:
>Okay, I hear that the international foie gras industry has some people
>upset because the geese in question are force-fed in a rather gross
>manner that causes a lot of pain to the birds.
>
>I think back to my youth, when I saw chickens get their heads chopped
>off and then saw them run around like, yes, chickens with their heads
>cut off. Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
>and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
>decapitation.
>
>So, I'm wondering if the same is true for geese. Could we just chop
>off the head, and attach blood, air and food tubes to them and pump
>away?
>
>With no head there, what could be suffering?
oh GREAT idea. Let's just keep creeping up the food chain.
Chickens, then Geese, then somebody will try rats. Then monkeys.
Then US.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.
- Nietzsche
Posted by:: Nivlem
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:05:57 -0800
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:05:45 -0800, Zapanaz
wrote:
>On 13 Mar 2005 12:02:45 -0800, "just john"
>wrote:
>
>>Okay, I hear that the international foie gras industry has some people
>>upset because the geese in question are force-fed in a rather gross
>>manner that causes a lot of pain to the birds.
>>
>>I think back to my youth, when I saw chickens get their heads chopped
>>off and then saw them run around like, yes, chickens with their heads
>>cut off. Evidently, chickens don't strictly need their heads to live,
>>and I've heard of some being kept alive for weeks after their
>>decapitation.
>>
>>So, I'm wondering if the same is true for geese. Could we just chop
>>off the head, and attach blood, air and food tubes to them and pump
>>away?
>>
>>With no head there, what could be suffering?
>
>oh GREAT idea. Let's just keep creeping up the food chain.
>Chickens, then Geese, then somebody will try rats. Then monkeys.
>Then US.
And this is problematic because?
Posted by:: "Rev. Richard Skull"
Date: 13 Mar 2005 14:42:01 -0800
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<>
Just readiing the News these days proved that most Humans don't need
their heads to live either.
Posted by:: nenslo
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:20:17 -0800
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"Rev. Richard Skull" wrote:
>
> <>
>
> Just readiing the News these days proved that most Humans don't need
> their heads to live either.
There was in fact a famous headless chicken which lived for many years,
It seems that in decapitating the chicken its owner cut rather high on
the neck, leaving a smidgen of hindbrain. This is roughly analogous to
what watching sitcoms does to humans.
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:26:14 GMT
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In article <42367091.FA5CE169@yahoox.com>, nenslo
wrote:
> "Rev. Richard Skull" wrote:
> >
> > <>
> >
> > Just readiing the News these days proved that most Humans don't need
> > their heads to live either.
>
> There was in fact a famous headless chicken which lived for many years,
> It seems that in decapitating the chicken its owner cut rather high on
> the neck, leaving a smidgen of hindbrain. This is roughly analogous to
> what watching sitcoms does to humans.
Oh, I'll bet you can whistle the theme to "The Dick Van Dyke Show."
Guess that leaves you with just enough brains to write clever posts, but
not enough to avoid appearing in court motherfucker for no greater reason
than to piss off some knuckleheaded judge. Flash him your withered
man-carrot; if he's a closet case, he may let you off light.
("Huey appears 44% more crude on Usenet than he really is in person,
but he's still a fat bastard." - some guy)
--
HellPope Huey
I say kill 'em all and let Godzilla sort 'em out.
"He asked me to forcibly insert
the LifeLine Exercise card into my ANUS!"
- "Donnie Darko"
You should see the hate e-mail I get.
We have met the enemy and he can't spell.
~Cathy Renna
of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
Posted by:: "ArWeGod"
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:12:28 GMT
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"HellPope Huey" wrote in message
news:ThatWayWhenIGotHere-AD986E.00271415032005@news1.west.earthlink.net...
> In article <42367091.FA5CE169@yahoox.com>, nenslo
> wrote:
> > "Rev. Richard Skull" wrote:
> > >
> > > <>
> > >
> > > Just readiing the News these days proved that most Humans don't
need
> > > their heads to live either.
> >
> > There was in fact a famous headless chicken which lived for many
years,
> > It seems that in decapitating the chicken its owner cut rather high
on
> > the neck, leaving a smidgen of hindbrain. This is roughly analogous
to
> > what watching sitcoms does to humans.
>
> Oh, I'll bet you can whistle the theme to "The Dick Van Dyke Show."
I immediately started whistling (I had no control over this behaviour -
reverse Pavlov?) the theme to the Andy Griffith show. Which of course
led to "slapping Opie"...
"I love you, you love me..."
--
ArWeBarney
Posted by:: polar bear
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:55:32 -0800
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In article <1110744165.079715.146060@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"just john" wrote:
Please don't crosspost poultry discussions into religion newsgroups.
pb
Posted by:: brthrn@dangermedia.org
Date: 14 Mar 2005 10:46:27 -0800
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Stop showing your UGLY LITTLE LUMPY BALLS to everyone thats just
passing by. You HAIRY GAY BITCH.
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:20:41 GMT
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In article <140320050555328491%bear@pole.com>,
polar bear wrote:
> Please don't crosspost poultry discussions into religion newsgroups.
Please don't crossbreed your little brother with a chicken in a bid to
get meatier thighs. There are easily 4 or 5 things wrong with that, such
as "In what religion shall we raise our mutant, beaked offspring?"
--
HellPope Huey
Hey Nenslo,
you said "feeble peevish tripe,"
hehhehhehhehhehheh...
"So you can see, children,
that our whole society is nothing more
than a perilous house of cards,
destined to collapse
under its own weight."
- "Invader Zim"
"How about that alien thing?"
"Don't patronize me!
I'm going to Dallas
and clear this thing up."
- "King of the Hill"
"The Drugs I Need" - 4-star Flash, hah!
http://tinyurl.com/3l4uy
Posted by:: SubGenius Spice
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:27:43 GMT
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In alt.slack, HellPope Huey was all like...
:: In article <140320050555328491%bear@pole.com>,
:: polar bear wrote:
::
:: > Please don't crosspost poultry discussions into religion newsgroups.
::
:: Please don't crossbreed your little brother with a chicken in a bid to
:: get meatier thighs. There are easily 4 or 5 things wrong with that, such
:: as "In what religion shall we raise our mutant, beaked offspring?"
gabba, gabba, we accept you one of us.
Posted by:: König Prüße, GfbAEV
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:23:26 GMT
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HellPope Huey wrote:
>In article <140320050555328491%bear@pole.com>,
> polar bear wrote:
>
>> Please don't crosspost poultry discussions into religion newsgroups.
>
> Please don't crossbreed your little brother with a chicken in a bid to
>get meatier thighs. There are easily 4 or 5 things wrong with that, such
>as "In what religion shall we raise our mutant, beaked offspring?"
I did cross-breed my brother with a chicken!
http://www.meatmation.com/beefy2.jpg
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:32:18 GMT
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In article <2pmZd.136033$Th1.13204@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
König Prüße, GfbAEV wrote:
> HellPope Huey wrote:
> >In article <140320050555328491%bear@pole.com>,
> > polar bear wrote:
> >
> >> Please don't crosspost poultry discussions into religion newsgroups.
> >
> > Please don't crossbreed your little brother with a chicken in a bid to
> >get meatier thighs. There are easily 4 or 5 things wrong with that, such
> >as "In what religion shall we raise our mutant, beaked offspring?"
>
> I did cross-breed my brother with a chicken!
> http://www.meatmation.com/beefy2.jpg
With WHAT, a semi loaded with tins of tuna and 4000 pounds of illegal
cigarettes? Gooey!
--
HellPope Huey
Hey Nenslo,
you said "feeble peevish tripe,"
hehhehhehhehhehheh...
"So you can see, children,
that our whole society is nothing more
than a perilous house of cards,
destined to collapse
under its own weight."
- "Invader Zim"
"How about that alien thing?"
"Don't patronize me!
I'm going to Dallas
and clear this thing up."
- "King of the Hill"
"The Drugs I Need" - 4-star Flash, hah!
http://tinyurl.com/3l4uy
Posted by:: König Prüße, GfbAEV
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:51:43 GMT
--------
HellPope Huey wrote:
>In article <2pmZd.136033$Th1.13204@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> König Prüße, GfbAEV wrote:
>> HellPope Huey wrote:
>> >In article <140320050555328491%bear@pole.com>,
>> > polar bear wrote:
>> >
>> >> Please don't crosspost poultry discussions into religion newsgroups.
>> >
>> > Please don't crossbreed your little brother with a chicken in a bid to
>> >get meatier thighs. There are easily 4 or 5 things wrong with that, such
>> >as "In what religion shall we raise our mutant, beaked offspring?"
>>
>> I did cross-breed my brother with a chicken!
>> http://www.meatmation.com/beefy2.jpg
>
> With WHAT, a semi loaded with tins of tuna and 4000 pounds of illegal
>cigarettes? Gooey!
Yeah, gooey! I'll steer this sumbitch into oncoming traffic during rush hour
and rashoshana and ramammlammadingdong! Fuck alla you Jewish
non-Teamster non-truckdrivers! Oy! My son's a doctor! dipshit bastards!
I hate your frizzy hair! You got pubic hair on top of your head,
you're a dickhead! Feh! Eat matzoh, ya dootchbag!
88!
44!
11!
and
number 2!
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:16:59 GMT
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In article ,
König Prüße, GfbAEV wrote:
> Yeah, gooey! I'll steer this sumbitch into oncoming traffic during rush hour
> and rashoshana and ramammlammadingdong! Fuck alla you Jewish
> non-Teamster non-truckdrivers! Oy! My son's a doctor! dipshit bastards!
> I hate your frizzy hair! You got pubic hair on top of your head,
> you're a dickhead! Feh! Eat matzoh, ya dootchbag!
> 88!
> 44!
> 11!
> and
> number 2!
This frothing outburst brought to you by 5 malt liquors, a slow gas
leak in the kitchen and a poorly-stoppered bottle of ether under the
La-Z-Boy.
--
HellPope Huey
Hey Nenslo,
you said "feeble peevish tripe,"
hehhehhehhehhehheh...
"So you can see, children,
that our whole society is nothing more
than a perilous house of cards,
destined to collapse
under its own weight."
- "Invader Zim"
"How about that alien thing?"
"Don't patronize me!
I'm going to Dallas
and clear this thing up."
- "King of the Hill"
"The Drugs I Need" - 4-star Flash, hah!
http://tinyurl.com/3l4uy
Posted by:: polar bear
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 02:08:59 -0800
--------
In article ,
König Prüße, GfbAEV wrote:
> HellPope Huey wrote:
>
> >In article <2pmZd.136033$Th1.13204@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > König Prüße, GfbAEV wrote:
> >> HellPope Huey wrote:
> >> >In article <140320050555328491%bear@pole.com>,
> >> > polar bear wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Please don't crosspost poultry discussions into religion newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> > Please don't crossbreed your little brother with a chicken in a bid to
> >> >get meatier thighs. There are easily 4 or 5 things wrong with that, such
> >> >as "In what religion shall we raise our mutant, beaked offspring?"
> >>
> >> I did cross-breed my brother with a chicken!
> >> http://www.meatmation.com/beefy2.jpg
> >
> > With WHAT, a semi loaded with tins of tuna and 4000 pounds of illegal
> >cigarettes? Gooey!
>
> Yeah, gooey! I'll steer this sumbitch into oncoming traffic during rush hour
> and rashoshana and ramammlammadingdong! Fuck alla you Jewish
> non-Teamster non-truckdrivers! Oy! My son's a doctor! dipshit bastards!
>
> I hate your frizzy hair! You got pubic hair on top of your head,
> you're a dickhead! Feh! Eat matzoh, ya dootchbag!
>
> 88!
>
> 44!
>
> 11!
>
> and
>
> number 2!
Mine's a 99
pb
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:24:55 GMT
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In article <1110744165.079715.146060@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"just john" wrote:
> With no head there, what could be suffering?
One could wonder about that, but it works in millions of offices and
SUVs around the country EVERY DAY. 3/4 of the populace is made up of
waddling briskets of Turducken, 4/5 if you count Usenet.
--
HellPope Huey
I say kill 'em all and let Godzilla sort 'em out.
"He asked me to forcibly insert
the LifeLine Exercise card into my ANUS!"
- "Donnie Darko"
You should see the hate e-mail I get.
We have met the enemy and he can't spell.
~Cathy Renna
of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation