Documentary with Naughty Language gets PG-13 rating
Posted by:: "Modemac"
Date: 3 Mar 2005 14:05:43 -0800
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/050303/11/tbrn.html
A documentary about soldiers in Iraq, entitled "Gunner Palace," was
initially given an R-rating because it contains "over thirty"
utterances of the Dreaded F-Word. But upon further appeal, it has
since been given a PG-13 rating.
Posted by:: moviePig
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:18:13 -0500
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Modemac wrote:
> http://au.news.yahoo.com/050303/11/tbrn.html
>
> A documentary about soldiers in Iraq, entitled "Gunner Palace," was
> initially given an R-rating because it contains "over thirty"
> utterances of the Dreaded F-Word. But upon further appeal, it has
> since been given a PG-13 rating.
The clash of two mighty Forces of Political Correctness.
It's probably a sign of progress that the one that won won.
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Posted by:: Winston Corcoran
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:02:53 GMT
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moviePig wrote in news:haMVd.27034$Bj2.7191
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> Modemac wrote:
>
>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/050303/11/tbrn.html
>>
>> A documentary about soldiers in Iraq, entitled "Gunner Palace," was
>> initially given an R-rating because it contains "over thirty"
>> utterances of the Dreaded F-Word. But upon further appeal, it has
>> since been given a PG-13 rating.
>
> The clash of two mighty Forces of Political Correctness.
>
Is there a parallel to Godwin's Law when uttering the phrase 'Political
Correctness' ?
Posted by:: moviePig
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:14:29 -0500
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Winston Corcoran wrote:
> moviePig wrote in news:haMVd.27034$Bj2.7191
> @fe06.lga:
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>>Modemac wrote:
>>>
>>>A documentary about soldiers in Iraq, entitled "Gunner Palace," was
>>>initially given an R-rating because it contains "over thirty"
>>>utterances of the Dreaded F-Word. But upon further appeal, it has
>>>since been given a PG-13 rating.
>>
>>The clash of two mighty Forces of Political Correctness.
>
> Is there a parallel to Godwin's Law when uttering the phrase 'Political
> Correctness' ?
(For naifs such as I, unfamiliar with "Godwin's Law", here's Wikipedia's
fun page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law )
Sounds fair. But I'd like a half-point for sowing internal dissent
(i.e., PC vs. PC).
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Posted by:: T
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:19:38 GMT
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moviePig wrote:
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> Winston Corcoran wrote:
>
>> Is there a parallel to Godwin's Law when uttering the phrase
>> 'Political Correctness' ?
> (For naifs such as I, unfamiliar with "Godwin's Law", here's Wikipedia's
> fun page:
Slapped some brackets to contain the URL's fight against punctuation.
)
>
> Sounds fair. But I'd like a half-point for sowing internal dissent
> (i.e., PC vs. PC).
>
I must admit to having invoked it past discussion and in so doing have
trumped _myself_, if unknowingly.
Quote:
> In addition, whoever points out that Godwin's law applies to the thread is also considered to have "lost" the battle, as it is considered poor form to invoke the law explicitly.
And while the need for the root of what begin 'PC' is still with us and
needs tending to the whole "I call 'PC'" thing can't disappear fast
enough for me. Boo! It's the PC BoogeyMan! Run! feh.
As for the Documentary, it has been called an accurate depiction, at
least in part, to the reality of war; that you can get just as dead in a
minor conflict as in a major one and that combat is hours and days of
boredom punctuated by brief intense periods of chaos.
TBerk
Posted by:: "ArWeGod"
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:05:17 GMT
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"T" wrote in message
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> moviePig wrote:
> >
> > Winston Corcoran wrote:
> >
>
> >> Is there a parallel to Godwin's Law when uttering the phrase
> >> 'Political Correctness' ?
> > (For naifs such as I, unfamiliar with "Godwin's Law", here's
Wikipedia's
> > fun page:
>
> Slapped some brackets to contain the URL's fight against punctuation.
>
> )
> >
> > Sounds fair. But I'd like a half-point for sowing internal dissent
> > (i.e., PC vs. PC).
>
> I must admit to having invoked it past discussion and in so doing have
> trumped _myself_, if unknowingly.
>
> Quote:
> > In addition, whoever points out that Godwin's law applies to the
thread is also considered to have "lost" the battle, as it is considered
poor form to invoke the law explicitly.
>
> And while the need for the root of what begin 'PC' is still with us
and
> needs tending to the whole "I call 'PC'" thing can't disappear fast
> enough for me. Boo! It's the PC BoogeyMan! Run! feh.
The PC bastards are all Nazi's.
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Posted by:: polar bear
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:20:13 -0800
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In article , moviePig
wrote:
> Modemac wrote:
>
> > http://au.news.yahoo.com/050303/11/tbrn.html
> >
> > A documentary about soldiers in Iraq, entitled "Gunner Palace," was
> > initially given an R-rating because it contains "over thirty"
> > utterances of the Dreaded F-Word. But upon further appeal, it has
> > since been given a PG-13 rating.
>
> The clash of two mighty Forces of Political Correctness.
>
> It's probably a sign of progress that the one that won won.
Damn, there's that 111 again! That thing pops up everywhere!
pb
Posted by:: "Nick Macpherson"
Date: 4 Mar 2005 05:40:43 -0800
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moviePig wrote:
> Modemac wrote:
>
> > http://au.news.yahoo.com/050303/11/tbrn.html
> >
> > A documentary about soldiers in Iraq, entitled "Gunner Palace," was
> > initially given an R-rating because it contains "over thirty"
> > utterances of the Dreaded F-Word. But upon further appeal, it has
> > since been given a PG-13 rating.
>
> The clash of two mighty Forces of Political Correctness.
>
> It's probably a sign of progress that the one that won won.
>
I don't think so. Well, maybe it is but I'm still not comfortable with
it. It's like that conversation between Spike Lee and Martin Scorsese
where Lee asks Scorsese how Saving Private Ryan got an R rating even
though it should have gotten an NC-17 and there was no way either of
them could ever manage that, and Scorsese laughed and said it was
because Spielberg was more moral than they were.
So a movie like Gunner Palace passes with a PG-13, probably because, to
use Scorsese's word, it's a "moral" movie, just like Schindler's List
and SPR getting shown on commercial network television without cuts,
because they're "moral" movies. It's a judgement call I'm not
comfortable with. I don't want people in a position of authority
telling me what's moral. Rating a movie "R" because it has more than
one "fuck" in it or because that "Fuck" is used in a sexual context.
Fine. Rating a movie PG-13 because even though it has a bunch of
"fucks" in it, the movie's good for you, that's not so good.
What I want is a unbiased MPAA ratings system and theater managers who
let kids into R rated movies, the way it was when I was growing up in
the seventies.
Posted by:: moviePig
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:17:44 -0500
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Nick Macpherson wrote:
> moviePig wrote:
>
>>Modemac wrote:
>>
>>>http://au.news.yahoo.com/050303/11/tbrn.html
>>>
>>>A documentary about soldiers in Iraq, entitled "Gunner Palace," was
>>>initially given an R-rating because it contains "over thirty"
>>>utterances of the Dreaded F-Word. But upon further appeal, it has
>>>since been given a PG-13 rating.
>>
>>The clash of two mighty Forces of Political Correctness.
>>It's probably a sign of progress that the one that won won.
>
> I don't think so. Well, maybe it is but I'm still not comfortable with
> it. ... I don't want people in a position of authority
> telling me what's moral. Rating a movie "R" because it has more than
> one "fuck" in it or because that "Fuck" is used in a sexual context.
> Fine. Rating a movie PG-13 because even though it has a bunch of
> "fucks" in it, the movie's good for you, that's not so good.
More simplistically: By "progress" I imply some hope that those magic
words will ultimately lose their power to kill at thirty paces.
Meanwhile, "moral authority" is, I fear, immortal.
> What I want is a unbiased MPAA ratings system and theater managers who
> let kids into R rated movies, the way it was when I was growing up in
> the seventies.
(I'll try to ignore the selfish added relaxation I feel when attending
an R-rated movie, knowing the auditorium will be teeny-bopper free.) My
utopia would assign movies an M.Q. rating ("maturity quotient").
Similar to I.Q., it would disclose the mental age needed to *grasp* (as
opposed to "handle" or "withstand") the movie's intended content. Folks
would be less likely to attend movies way over (or under) their head
...which might make for better-behaved audiences. (Nothing like an M.Q.
will ever happen, obviously, but it's fun to think about how you'd
derive it.)
Re admitting kids into movies, I agree. I've always taken mine to
essentially *anything* that wouldn't rot their brain, by (say) extolling
stupidity.
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