Damn U Zapanaz
Posted by:: "iDRMRSR"
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:59:22 -0500
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Based solely upon your mention (dare I say recommendation), I forced myself
to sit through The Saddest Music in the World. What a totally fucked up
flick that was. It was like David Lynch with the safeties disabled.
In an era of HDTV, where you can produce images large enough to view with
binoculars, why do these clever art assholes smear vaseline on their lenses,
go handheld, Super 8, and make everything B&W and grainy? Oh, that's right,
then they'd have to write a story with a COMPELLING PLOT to get you to
watch. And that requires TALENT, which is in very short supply on this
planet. Easier to get jiggy with shakey, out of focus, silhouetted shots
that channel Orson Welles or The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.
I think one day, they'll just hand you the SAME DRUGS the director was on as
you walk into the theater, then some of this would make more sense somehow.
Still, there were parts that made me LMAO here and there. The Sitar
accompaniment to Swing Low Sweet Chariot, for example. And those beer glass
legs. Whew.
But I do need to thank you because on the same DVD with this mess of a
flick, there was a short called:
SISSY BOY SLAP PARTY
That more than made up for the rest of the two hours I wasted.
In the sense of Turnabout is Fair Play, let me recommend one to YOU.
Institute Benjamenta, by the Brothers Quay. Before you say no, mind you,
the Borg Queen, Alice Krige, is in this one. I don't think it's on DVD yet
but ebay and half.com have VHS copies usually. Actually anything you score
by the Brothers Quay ought to pay you back for this one.
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Posted by:: nikolai kingsley
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:19:47 +1000
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> But I do need to thank you because on the same DVD with this mess of a
> flick, there was a short called:
>
> SISSY BOY SLAP PARTY
>
> That more than made up for the rest of the two hours I wasted.
sissy boy slap party. wow. it sounds like some sort of H-anime game.
Posted by:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:47:56 -0800
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:59:22 -0500, "iDRMRSR"
wrote:
>Based solely upon your mention (dare I say recommendation), I forced myself
>to sit through The Saddest Music in the World. What a totally fucked up
>flick that was. It was like David Lynch with the safeties disabled.
>
>In an era of HDTV, where you can produce images large enough to view with
>binoculars, why do these clever art assholes smear vaseline on their lenses,
>go handheld, Super 8, and make everything B&W and grainy? Oh, that's right,
>then they'd have to write a story with a COMPELLING PLOT to get you to
>watch. And that requires TALENT, which is in very short supply on this
>planet. Easier to get jiggy with shakey, out of focus, silhouetted shots
>that channel Orson Welles or The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.
>
>I think one day, they'll just hand you the SAME DRUGS the director was on as
>you walk into the theater, then some of this would make more sense somehow.
>
>Still, there were parts that made me LMAO here and there. The Sitar
>accompaniment to Swing Low Sweet Chariot, for example. And those beer glass
>legs. Whew.
>
>But I do need to thank you because on the same DVD with this mess of a
>flick, there was a short called:
>
>SISSY BOY SLAP PARTY
>
>That more than made up for the rest of the two hours I wasted.
>
>In the sense of Turnabout is Fair Play, let me recommend one to YOU.
>Institute Benjamenta, by the Brothers Quay. Before you say no, mind you,
>the Borg Queen, Alice Krige, is in this one. I don't think it's on DVD yet
>but ebay and half.com have VHS copies usually. Actually anything you score
>by the Brothers Quay ought to pay you back for this one.
>
>[*]
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>
I WARNED YA DAMMIT
I was really getting into that movie, the first 15 or 20 minutes I
thought it was great and I was getting a lot of laughs out of it, but
it just got more tedious and less funny as it went along. So I posted
a followup.
I could live with the weird filming technique, I guess he was trying
to give a feeling of film that looked like it was shot in the era of
the movie, if it had been shot in a modern, glossy way it would have
been pretty annoying.
IMO though Art movies tend to lose their momentum pretty quickly. Art
movie makers want to make a Pure Movie, a movie with all of the
cliches and predictable hooks gone But as a result they end up, 99%
of the time, with no plot. So they can manage a good 15 or 20 minutes
of a really good idea expressed with really original visual forms, but
then what? It runs out of steam. They inevitably start repeating
themselves.
Like the sad brother. The first couple times you see him he's
interesting, because he's new so they can introduce new dialogue and
visual elements revolving around him. But I just find myself getting
more and more tired of him. He never changes. He's one-dimensional
because he isn't really a character at all, he's a Symbol. Art movie
guys just love their fucking symbols.
I think David Lynch is the only one who can really make a real Art
Movie and get away with it. Because he won't BORE you. Even
Eraserhead, which is a pure Art Movie, remains interesting. Not
though because it has a plot (kinda but it is an Art Movie sort of
plot mostly) but just because he has enough of a genius that he can
keep the whole thing feeling fresh.
There's moments, making a movie or a story or music or whatever else,
when you get a -great- idea. Something that just leaps up out of your
subconscious and it's just perfect.
But it's never long enough. Ideas like that are usually tableaus,
they have no time.
So usually they make a movie which is a cookie-cutter hollywood movie
with that one idea worked into it and they hope the one idea will be
strong enough to carry it. Stargate is my favorite example of that,
they started with such a strong idea, visually and as a concept. But
it seems obvious to me, they never thought through what they were
going to do once they went through the gate. Someone had this great
One Idea about this intriguing gate from alien space, but that was as
far as the original idea went.
Whatever the original great idea was is ruined in the process, because
most of the movie is just typical hollywood cotton candy.
Or you can get some purist maverick director who fights the system and
insists on keeping is Idea pure. But if he doesn't have enough other
Great Ideas to fill in the movie, it is just going to suck.
I didn't notice Sissy Boy Slap Party on the DVD though, I should rent
it again.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"To live outside the law, you must be honest."
Bob Dylan said that.
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 03:56:02 GMT
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> Sissy Boy Slap Party
Sounds like a new Usenet group: alt.slack.sissy.boy.slap-party. Wonder
how hard it would be to get all the trolls to gravitate there like
lemmings?
--
HellPope Huey
All that modern science flapping around,
but still no bacon-flavored cereal. Hmph!
"The essence of Christianity is told us
in the Garden of Eden history.
The fruit that was forbidden
was on the Tree of Knowledge.
The subtext is, All the suffering you have
is because you wanted to find out what was going on.
You could be in the Garden of Eden
if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut
and hadn't asked any questions."
- Frank Zappa
"How can I study this planet
if the entire population is staring
at my freakishly deformed head?"
- "Invader Zim"
Posted by:: Zapanaz
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:46:02 -0800
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:47:56 -0800, Zapanaz
wrote:
>Sissy Boy Slap Party
well that was novel.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"Maybe some day, if I struggle, and read the right books, and eat right
and not watch moving picture shows, and learn to think rightly, I'll
KNOW all about INTELLIGENCE."
-- Rev. Ivan Stang