ATT: Audio editors
Posted by:: "just john"
Date: 13 Mar 2005 11:35:39 -0800
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I assume you've tried Audacity? (I'm guessing that's what you're
collaging with in the first place.)
Posted by:: "Rev Chain Smerker"
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:48:07 GMT
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"just john" wrote in message
news:1110742539.546821.28440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I assume you've tried Audacity? (I'm guessing that's what you're
> collaging with in the first place.)
>
nope just wave pad, and occasionaly Tracktion but that isnt really helpful,
ill check Audacity out though
Posted by:: "Talysman the Ur-Beatle"
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:48:11 GMT
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"just john" wrote in news:1110742539.546821.28440
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> I assume you've tried Audacity? (I'm guessing that's what you're
> collaging with in the first place.)
>
>
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
earlier versions of audacity tended to put clicks into stuff when mixing two
clips of high audio level.
the newer version is much better.
--
Talysman the Ur-Beatle, STRAWGRASPER
Posted by:: "frater S.O.D.D.I."
Date: 13 Mar 2005 13:08:23 -0800
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Rev Chain Smerker wrote:
> Does anyone here know of any decent "free" audio editing programs
that can
> get rid of those anoying clicks that end up in audio collages, all
ive got
> so far is wavepad,,,oh and a program that creats the ID tags as well
I like a little editor called acoustica (www.aconas.com)... it was $15
but well worth it.
No matter what audio editor you use if you're collaging up audio clips,
a good little technique I use is to fade your volume out/in a few ms
before the end/beginning of each audio clip... not enough to cut out
valuable audio, but enough to smooth it out and kill the pops.
A good editor will also allow you to normalize your levels for better
overall volume, and most allow you to kill DC offset, which can cause
nasty little audio artifacts.
In the case of "other" clicks, you may want to EQ the track a bit,
cutting down the higher frequencies.
Posted by:: "frater S.O.D.D.I."
Date: 13 Mar 2005 16:14:35 -0800
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Sudasana wrote:
> Artemia Salina wrote in
> news:pan.2005.03.13.20.07.09.230210@sheayright.com:
>
> > Another trick to keep in mind is to use noise as a mask. If you use
> > samples from different sources you may notice that the noise levels
> > are different in the various sources; one clip might have a lot of
> > background hiss while others don't. When you splice these together
> > the edits are very noticeable. It is possible, in some cases, to
mask
> > the different noise levels by adding noise to the whole collage.
> > Of course this doesn't always work either. You literally have to
play
> > it by ear.
>
> I've noticed this being used in many of the best collages I've heard.
I'm
> wondering if one could grab a loop of generic hiss or background
noise and
> use that to ~meld~ different clips together.
>
That is called "dithering"... old pro audio technique. Trick is to use
it so sparingly you don't even notice it.
This is a little software white/pink/brown noise generator. It's free
for 30 days: http://www.sagebrush.com/wavesong.htm
Catch 4 or 5 .wav files with different filter settings so you can get
it just right. Keep the levels down...
Posted by:: "frater S.O.D.D.I."
Date: 13 Mar 2005 16:19:56 -0800
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Stang wrote:
"What's trickier is relative volume changes from cut to cut. That's
something that you can only tweak by ear, as the visible waveform
doesn't always "hold true"."
Try a compressor/limiter program or plug-in on the entire audio file.
It will boost the volume for the softer parts and cut the volume at the
peaks.
BEFORE normalizing and EQing.
Try not to overuse it. Aw, hell, look who I'm talking to. Test to
destruction, see if I care.
Posted by:: "Paul Casino"
Date: 13 Mar 2005 18:06:41 -0800
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Vegas Audio by Sonic Foundry. It's GREAT. You just need an outsourcing
program to do the FX, like ehcoes and what not. For that I use Cool
Edit Pro.
Posted by:: "frater S.O.D.D.I."
Date: 13 Mar 2005 23:11:59 -0800
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Paul Casino wrote:
> Vegas Audio by Sonic Foundry. It's GREAT. You just need an
outsourcing
> program to do the FX, like ehcoes and what not. For that I use Cool
> Edit Pro.
Well, yeah, iffin your gonna go that route...
Steinberg's Wavelab is one of the best prosumer level editors... almost
unlimited undos, full conversion software for almost all encoding incl.
most samplers, terrific spectral analysis, more ...
AND you can use the 1000s of free, shareware and commercial VST and DX
plugins as a stacked virtual "rack" to process your audio.
Fun effect: Take your audio track (spoken word is cool for this) and
reverse it in the audio editor. Apply reverb... maybe 70-90 ms room, 60
dry/40 wet. Then reverse it again. Viola! reversed reverb just like
Edward Ka-Spel. Sounds creepy
Posted by:: "frater S.O.D.D.I."
Date: 22 Mar 2005 11:32:07 -0800
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Artemia Salina wrote:
"I think if you try to loop a noise sample it'll start to sound
rhythmic."
With a decent non-destructive audio editor you should be able to match
the start and end points so that the white noise loop doesn't "bump".
And the longer the loop, the less likely that any apparent rhythm will
occur.
Posted by:: HellPope Huey
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:14:02 GMT
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In article <1111519927.118296.316610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"frater S.O.D.D.I." wrote:
> And the longer the loop, the less likely that any apparent rhythm will
> occur.
The longer the loop, the more excruciating the dinner with Grandmaw.
--
HellPope Huey
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