From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 5, 2003 10:45 AM
What a LUSER. He goes down for having LINKS on
his web page. Then they bully and browbeat him
and threaten to call him a terrorist, so he agrees
to a fucked-up plea deal. AND THEN the judge
shafts him on the plea deal. FUCKING LUUSER!
http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030805_31.html
A federal judge sentenced a man to a year in
prison Monday for creating an anarchist Web
site WITH LINKS to sites on how to build bombs.
U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson sentenced
Sherman Austin to more than the prosecutor had
recommended under a plea bargain...
...Austin must also pay a $2,000 fine and is
barred for three years from using a computer
without approval. Wilson said he also may not
associate with anyone from a group that "espouses
physical force as a means of change."
Austin was arrested with other protesters at the
World Economic Forum in New York in February 2002
on charges of disorderly conduct and unlawful
assembly. While in New York, federal charges were
handed down in California.
Austin said he took a plea bargain because he
feared his case was eligible for a terrorism
enhancement, which could have added 20 years to
his sentence. The plea deal had called for him
to serve four months.
--
"I can imagine a LOT when it comes
to unimaginable power."
-- nu-monet
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From: "Anachron" <Nospam@biteme.com>
So you don't have a problem with him suggesting that
bombs are a useful
vehicle for social change, just his getting caught?
I'm not exactly on board with the President's policies
on terrorism either,
but this asshole has it coming. This is one area where
freedom of speach
should be limited.
-Anachron
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From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Anachron wrote:
> So you don't have a problem with him suggesting
> that bombs are a useful vehicle for social change,
> just his getting caught?
>
> I'm not exactly on board with the President's
> policies on terrorism either, but this asshole
has
> it coming. This is one area where freedom of speach
> should be limited.
Well, gee, let's see how this stacks up:
Him: has LINKS on his web page to something illegal
on somebody ELSE'S web page. Otherwise, he
engages in free speech that the government
doesn't like, advocating anarchism instead of
whatever the hell our government is today.
Feds: arrest him on a BULLSHIT charge, then browbeat
him with the threat of a HUGELY BULLSHIT charge
JUST to get him to STOP USING HIS FREE SPEECH
RIGHTS and ASSOCIATING with other anarchists;
and THEN the judge BLOWS OFF the BULLSHIT plea
agreement and gives him a fucking YEAR IN PRISON.
Wow, now THAT sounds fucking fair to me.
If the guy wasn't such a schmuck, he could have told
them to fuck themselves and walked. He would have
had the entire high tech industry behind him, plus
EFF, ACLU, and about a dozen other free speech
advocates.
Or hadn't the thought crossed your mind that Google
links to tens or hundreds of thousands of illegal
sites too?
--
"He's just screaming out
'Neuter Me!'"
-- some guy about his dog
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Subject: Re: Anarchist Fucks Up, Trusts CON
From: "Anachron" <Nospam@biteme.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Aug 5, 2003 1:24 PM
Message-ID: <iLRXa.50771$ib2.14795770@twister.neo.rr.com>
Well you are right about the guy being a Luser. If
you are going to
advocate force as a way to promote your agenda don't
cry when someone uses a
little force in return. If you want to declare war
on the U.S. don't be a
wussie when you are standing in front of the judge:
"Austin told the judge Monday he "wasn't really
thinking" when he created
the Web site. "I'd be devastated if someone used
this information to harm
others," he said."
"Waaaah mommy I didn't mean it!"
I don't care if the actual info was on another site
or not, he is promoting
violence. Fuck 'em.
> Or hadn't the thought crossed your mind that Google
> links to tens or hundreds of thousands of illegal
> sites too?
OK if they are interested in killing us let's pay all
of THEM a visit too.
This is the war we should be fighting not the one in
Iraq.
-Anachron
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From: "Dunter Powries" <fech.redcap@spedlins>
Anachron <Nospam@biteme.com> wrote:
> OK if they are interested in killing us let's pay
all of THEM a visit too.
> This is the war we should be fighting not the one
in Iraq.
'They' who? 'We' who?
As far as 'I' can tell, 'you' are the enemy who needs to be fought.
Dunty Porteous,
--
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you
equality or justice
or anything. If you're a man, you take it."
-Malcolm X
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From: "Anachron" <Nospam@biteme.com>
"Dunter Powries" <fech.redcap@spedlins>
wrote:
They' who? 'We' who?
"They" would be anyone who would push their
agenda with bombs. "We" would
be people who live in buildings and houses who "They"
would blow up.
> As far as 'I' can tell, 'you' are the enemy who needs to be fought.
Really? Are you a big fan of Timothy McViegh then?
Do you have a nice web
site with bomb making info on it? Why don't you tell
us all about it.
I thought slack provides the remedy to rabid foaming
at the mouth. Better
double your dosage.
Anachron
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From: "Dunter Powries" <fech.redcap@spedlins>
Who said anything about Timothy McVeigh? McVeigh killed
people and damaged
property. That's wrong. Shit, even I know that.
I'm concerned with folks who feel that they're entitled
to an opinion
regarding what is right and wholesome for me to be reading
and what is
proper and moral for me to be thinking.
Dunty Porteous
--
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to
the people who inhabit it.
Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government,
they can
excercise their constitutional right of amending it,
or exercise their
revolutionary right to overthrow it."
-Abraham Lincoln
"Objection is when I say: this doesn't suit me.
Resistance is when I make
sure that what doesn't suit me never happens again."
-Ulrike Meinhof
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From: KRONOS <null@void.com>
Yo "Anachron"
You suck large,dripping,sore-encrusted,stinky donkey dicks
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From: "Dunter Powries" <fech.redcap@spedlins>
I think we should limit freedom of speech which relates
to complaining about
meals that other people fix for you and also restrict
peoples' freedom to
wear plaid pants. And rather than allow civil administrative
agencies to
regulate our constitutional rights, I further propose
that every American be
allowed to submit two (2) restrictions of civil liberties
with their 2003
federal tax returns, and that we simply abrogate the
Bill of Rights en
masse.
Dunty Porteous,
Social Visionary
--
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost
all at once."
-David Hume
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From: nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com>
The nail that sticks up will be hammered down.
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From: "Blackout" <blackout@sususaywhatsubgenius.com>
"nenslo" wrote
> The nail that sticks up will be hammered down.
PLEASE SHUT BACK THE FUCK UP
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
nenslo <nenslo@yahooX.com> wrote:
> The nail that sticks up will be hammered down.
Is THAT where you've been? Shoulda known.
Leave it to ol' Nenslo to get hammered every chance he gets.
Well I for one am happy to see this rusty, bent nail
poking up again.
Despite how often I've foolishly stubbed my toe on it,
I miss it when
it's gone.
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
PRABOB
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From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Rev. Ivan Stang twore:
> nenslo worted:
> > The nail that sticks up will be hammered down.
>
> Is THAT where you've been? Shoulda known.
>
> Leave it to ol' Nenslo to get hammered every
> chance he gets.
>
> Well I for one am happy to see this rusty, bent
> nail poking up again.
Well, I'm waiting for the BOTH of you, and Legume
and Jesus and the others to be swept up by the
gubment and put in death camps. When me, poor me
gets overlooked and TAKES OVER. You got it,
nu-monet becomes SACRED SCRIBE for the SOLE reason
that the gubment DOESN'T have me arrested and
killed, and I laugh and laugh.
ALL THE OTHERS, even weiners like ICEKNIFE and the
other pooty-poots get hauled in and put on the
blue buses and gassed and shit, BUT NOT ME!
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Until it's just ME and "Bob". And no one
else will
remember the CotSG in all the frenzy and war and
war crimes trials and rebuilding from the ashes.
And when I'm old and decrepit and heading off into
space on the last ship out I'll turn to some youth
and say, "This would be a fine day to SLACK OFF!"
And he'll think to himself that "Oh, great! I'm
sitting next to some insane old coot on the four
light years journey to Alpha Centauri and he's
gonna rant about Britney Spears or another one of
them old dead celebrities."
But oh no. I'm gonna tell him about "Bob".
And the fucker will be cursed. When I am long
dead and he is standing on Nu Earth, he will be
obsessed with knowing and understanding the ways
of Slack and "Bob" and will pester his agrarian-
minded cohorts about Slacking off and sending
thirty Nu-Earth dollars in with a guarantee of
TRIPLE YOUR MONEY BACK if this Nu-Earth is just
as fucked up as the old Earth.
And it will all BEGIN ANEW. The scoffers, the
cynics, the ne'er-do-wells, the arteests, the
mutants, the stalkers, they will ALL join together
to go forth and BE ANNOYING!!!
AT least until X-dAY3000 comes.
(The previous post was inspired by a combination
of Jim Beam, Everclear, RC diet cola and cheese
sticks. No koffee beans were harmed in the
production of this post.)
--
"I'd just like to say I'm sailing with the Rock
and I'll be back like Independence Day with Jesus,
June 6, like the movie, big mothership and all.
I'll be back."
--Executed Serial killer Aileen Wuornos
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From: subspecies23@aol.comyourmom (SubSpecies23)
<< > The nail that sticks up will be hammered
down.
Is THAT where you've been? Shoulda known.
Leave it to ol' Nenslo to get hammered every chance he gets.
Well I for one am happy to see this rusty, bent nail
poking up again.
Despite how often I've foolishly stubbed my toe on it,
I miss it when
it's gone. >>
Nenslo is my hero.
Or something.
--
Beware! The Paranoids are watching you!
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From: El Queso <""the_cheese_23\"@(nospam)yahoo.com>
Anachron wrote:
> So you don't have a problem with him suggesting
that bombs are a useful
> vehicle for social change, just his getting caught?
Bush sure likes the idea of boms for social change, duddn't E?
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From: "Anachron" <Nospam@biteme.com>
"El Queso" <""the_cheese_23\"@(nospam)yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > So you don't have a problem with him suggesting
that bombs are a useful
> > vehicle for social change, just his getting
caught?
>
> Bush sure likes the idea of boms for social change,
duddn't E?
Yeah and it sucks too.
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From: subspecies23@aol.comyourmom (SubSpecies23)
<< So you don't have a problem with him suggesting
that bombs are a useful
vehicle for social change, just his getting caught >>
"Peace wont come by words alone." -- from
some old English Anarchist folk song
from the 30s, or something. I'm not sure where it comes
from, but I like it.
--
Beware! The Paranoids are watching you!
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From: El Queso <""the_cheese_23\"@(nospam)yahoo.com>
nu-monet v6.0 wrote:
> What a LUSER. He goes down for having LINKS on
> his web page. Then they bully and browbeat him
> and threaten to call him a terrorist, so he agrees
> to a fucked-up plea deal. AND THEN the judge
> shafts him on the plea deal. FUCKING LUUSER!
>
> http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030805_31.html
>
> A federal judge sentenced a man to a year in
> prison Monday for creating an anarchist Web
> site WITH LINKS to sites on how to build bombs.
>
> U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson sentenced
> Sherman Austin to more than the prosecutor had
> recommended under a plea bargain...
>
> ...Austin must also pay a $2,000 fine and is
> barred for three years from using a computer
> without approval. Wilson said he also may not
> associate with anyone from a group that "espouses
> physical force as a means of change."
And exactly what COUNTRY is he s'posed ta live in? The
USA obviously is
not one of the groups he can assoc with.
Queso
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
nu-monet v6.0 <nothing@succeeds.com> wrote:
> What a LUSER. He goes down for having LINKS on
> his web page. Then they bully and browbeat him
> and threaten to call him a terrorist, so he agrees
> to a fucked-up plea deal. AND THEN the judge
> shafts him on the plea deal. FUCKING LUUSER!
>
> http://www.abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030805_31.html
Funny you should mention that. When I first was putting
SubSITE
together, it was 1994 or so, and the Internet was young.
I didn't know
a damn thing about websites, but I had heard that "on
the Internet,
it's all child pornography and instructions on how to
build atom
bombs." Well, since that was what I was given to
understand, and I
wanted to make a proper Internet website that was up
to standards, I
made sure there was a picture called "LITTLE LISA
WASHES HER PUSSY,"
and also a reprint of the hoary old atom bomb building
instructions.
The picture was, of course, Lisa Simpson washing her
kitten in a tub of
water. However, the atom bomb instructions were real.
Wasn't anything
you couldn't find at the library actually; to be fair,
the atom bomb
instructions really were being tossed around the Internet
a lot at the
time. But back then, only GEEKY NERDS were on the Internet,
and to us
the atom bomb building instructions were just sorta
cool and trendy.
But, after that stuff had been up for a few years, and
I started
encountering other people besides my fellow geeky nerds
on the
Internet, I suddenly woke up in the night with a fright,
thinking I
better take those things down because, well, not everybody
has a sense
of humor about those things and we're just helping The
Man trump up his
charges against us in case he ever wanted to GIT us,
for some reason.
If you think that The Church of the SubGenius is too
nutty and goofy to
merit ongoing monitoring by the feds, you have misplaced
trust in Their
intelligence. Actually, if they're doing their jobs,
they WOULD check
us out. Then they would see that although we might be
terrible people,
by some standards (mainly taste), we are strictly non-violent,
and
indeed so lazy that we are awaiting space aliens to
come and do any
dirty work for us. And we aren't even awaiting the aliens
all that
ANXIOUSLY.
So anway, I took down those instructions, because, well,
ya never know.
What if some diseased Pink who thought he was a SubGenius
decided to
stop waiting for the aliens and hurry X-Day along. That
would not only
be anti-Slack but could get me in a whole heap of trouble.
People would
not think well of "Bob."
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
PRABOB
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From: polar bear <bear@pole.com>
Like this guy? http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
pb
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From: subspecies23@aol.comyourmom (SubSpecies23)
<< Like this guy? http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
>>
Cool. They should have recruited that guy, had him work for the government.
Too bad he was discovered, he could've used his nuclear
energy source to help
him build a secret underground lair, and take over the
earth.
--
Beware! The Paranoids are watching you!
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From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> Actually, if they're doing their jobs,
> they WOULD check us out. Then they would
> see that although we might be terrible
> people, by some standards (mainly taste),
> we are strictly non-violent...
You may wish to consult with this middle-
aged nude married woman who is tied to a
chair and covered in riding-crop welts and
pumpkin pulp sitting behind me as I post
this message.
Maybe "....non-violent unless it's consensual"
Well, damn. She *wanted* it. Hey, I'm not
one to deny art.
--
Unless there is some reason for investigation,
the federal law and the Constitution still
protect the rights of citizens.
--FBI agent Greg Stejskal
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