From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2004
Paranoid? Me?
So on Saturday I walk down to the P.O. with my Santa
Claus sack of
outgoing mail and my little backpack for carrying back
any incoming
mail, CD blanks or coffee that I might pick up. I'm
all UNSUSPECTING,
because I got my crashed hard drive situation back to
normal, and I can
almost resume life as I knew it. Because of the devival
and the
hardware problems, I had not "checked the snares"
-- hit the P.O. -- in
some time, and I figured there were probably goodies
in there by now, a
couple of Onions and some bills if nothing else.
I ain't been home to hit my PO Box in about uh ninety-nine
and one half
days.
Wait a minute something's wrong.
The key won't unlock this door.
I said, wait a minute something's wrong, something's
WRONG baby.
Lord have mercy, this key won't unlock this door.
Lord I've got a bad bad feeling...
that my mail...
don't live here no more.
((break for soulful solo))
I tried ALL the keys. (I still have the previous Cleveland
key AND,
believe it or not, for Power Shell Time Code reasons,
I still to this
day carry the key for 140306 at the Dallas PO on my
chain. (We still
own that box.)
But "my sword was blunted." I was "IMPOTENT"...
my tool could not
breach "Bob's" tight, tight PO Box hole.
It was after hours, so there wasn't anything I could
do... except
FRET. And boy howdy did I, on my way home. For I could
REMEMBER paying
the box rent bill. So why would they lock me out? BECAUSE,
PERHAPS,
SOMETHING EVIL HAD ARRIVED FOR THAT BOX, AND THEY WANT
TO "TALK TO ME
ABOUT IT"??
I get death threats in the email all the time, big whoop,
but what if
one of those fucks decided to send a, I dunno, a box
of dog shit, or
something that smelled like terrorism. I'd have to WASTE
A BUNCH OF
TIME explaining the same old routine to some AUTHORITY.
("Officer, have
you ever heard of MAD Magazine?") Hell, back in
the day, my FRIENDS
used to send me stuff designed to make me paranoid.
Once Vreedeez
mailed me a LEAKY OLD TORN MANILLA ENVELOPE filled with
LOOSE DIRT-WEED
SHAKE (intermixed with tiny chips of film negative,
so that I couldn't
actually SMOKE it even if I was that desparate)... so
that the
pernicious weed was TRICKLING OUT THE SIDES as the mailman
put it in my
home mailbox...JUST BECAUSE IT WAS FUNNY... that was
in 1980 though,
before Smell-o-vision.
And you always heard stories about how fans would send
Alice Cooper
vials of their sperm and stuff like that. We USED to
get packages along
those lines ourselves. Jesus and Magdalen probably still
do, but don't
even bother to mention them to me anymore. We were so
famous at the
Dallas PO that packages would get to us with ONLY the
name "BOB" as an
address! Email has changed things, so that now the jealous
crazies put
me on e-spam lists instead of direct mail lists.
Probably everybody who works at that shopping center
has a nickname for
me by now, "Stumpy," or something, a cute
nickname I hope. The
Cleveland Heights postal employees know me as that nice
old spaced out
hippie Mr. Smith who wears the hat and the backpack
and looks like a
homeless guy but at least has the ability to weigh and
stamp his own
stuff, whatever the hell it is, probably pornography
sold through
E-bay, who gives a shit, at least he doesn't wait hatefully
in that
long line just to buy ONE 37 cent stamp and then glare
hatefully at us
like the long line of other idiots who can't put change
into the
machine and get a stamp that way, or use the free scales
and charts,
etc. etc. I would just as soon NOT have them know me
any better simply
because then the nice ones will want to JOSH and BANTER
with me more,
or the mean ones will sneer more, and I really am in
a hurry, plus,
what if some IDIOT mailed me a CHUNK OF HASH or something??
That's the
other fear. That some mushroom head will think he's
doing me a big
favor by making sure I get a chance to change my life
to what he thinks
it should be, by trying the latest designer drug.
So was I FAIRLY PARANOID, walking home, with all my
Worst-Case engines
cranking away at full-fret. WHY DOES THE POST OFFICE
WANT TO TALK TO
ME??
I must not have been THAT paranoid, though, because
I promptly forgot
all about it, until I got to the PO again yesterday
and again couldn't
open the box. (I've had other things on my mind.)
So this morning I called them. Turns out I remember
paying the
PREVIOUS bill. Two weeks ago, they put the new bill
in my box. I
haven't BEEN to the box since then, so I didn't get,
or pay, that bill,
so, they locked the box, so I couldn't get mail until
I'd paid my bill.
However the hell I was supposed to GET the bill.
The old P.O. gal on the phone thought that was pretty
funny, too. She
said she'd take the "plug" out and I could
get my mail and -- get this
-- she said I should not just put my $68 box rent check
IN the box, my
PO box, but that I should THROW IT THROUGH THE OPEN
BACK END like a
paper airplane so that it goes through to that back-room
and FALLS ON
THE FLOOR, where she will find it. That's where I was
told to leave my
check. ON THE FLOOR WHEREVER IT LANDS, BEHIND MY PO
BOX HOLE.
Remember, kids, a SubGenius Foundation P.O. Box is
one of "Bob's"
"HOLES." You can be cool like a homo, and
FUCK "BOB'S" HOLE by putting
YOUR MONEY ("penis") into that hole. "DO"
"BOB" TODAY! I would
recommend the new Vol.15 of a dozen stereo high quality
Hours of Slack.
Or, you can now get ALL of our 5 feature-length videos
in RM format for
$40.
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
PRABOB
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From: Cardinal Vertigo <vertigo@alexandria.cc>
Joe Cosby wrote:
> Cardinal Vertigo <vertigo@alexandria.cc>
wrote:
>>Joe Cosby wrote:
>>>Cardinal Vertigo <vertigo@alexandria.cc>
wrote:
>>>>fenian wrote:
>>>>>>I get death threats in the email
all the time, big whoop, but what if
>>>>>>one of those fucks decided to
send a, I dunno, a box of dog shit, or
>>>>>>something that smelled like
terrorism. I'd have to WASTE A BUNCH OF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow. Thats pretty fucked. Who the
hell sends you death threats? And how many
>>>>>do you tend to receive in a year?
Who does it tend to be, Christians?
>>>>
>>>>Anyone who sends someone a death threat
isn't a Christian. Not by any
>>>>serious definition I've ever encountered,
anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Well sure, they might call themselves
Christians, but "you will know
>>>>them by their fruits" as the dude
who gave their religion its name is
>>>>quoted as saying, and as some of them
seem fond of repeating but not
>>>>understanding.
>>>
>>>
>>>"There was only one true Christian,
and he died on the cross"
>>
>>And there was only one true Buddhist, and he
died after a meal of
>>truffles in roughly 483 BCE. And there was
only one true Muslim, and he
>>died in his wife's arms in 632 at Medina. And
so on.
>
>
> I think his point was that tremendous hypocrisy
is often evident in
> Christians.
>
> Saying "anyone who sends a death threat isn't
a Christian" disregards
> people like for instance George Hammond who considers
himself a
> Christian, calls himself a Christian, or for that
matter somebody like
> Jerry Falwell or Oral Roberts and so on.
>
> By their fruits you shall know them indeed. But
don't you find
> yourself wondering a little then, what is the point
of even having
> this word, "Christian", which people
can take on and abuse to gild
> their swinish selves in a hypocritical coating
of sanctity?
>
> Maybe we should all just become Fruitarians.
It's a valid point, and in my mind is one of the most
valid criticisms
of the entire institution of organized religion. What's
the point of
having the word "SubGenius," which people
like Bob Dean or 11D or purple
can take on and abuse to gild their swinish selves in
a hypocritical
coating of sanctity?
--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of
the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or
wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public." Theodore Roosevelt,
twenty-sixth
President of the United States
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From: Joe Cosby <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl>
Cardinal Vertigo <vertigo@alexandria.cc> wrote:
>It's a valid point, and in my mind is one of the
most valid criticisms
>of the entire institution of organized religion.
What's the point of
>having the word "SubGenius," which people
like Bob Dean or 11D or purple
>can take on and abuse to gild their swinish selves
in a hypocritical
>coating of sanctity?
I don't know what exactly a coating of subgenius gives
you but I don't
think it's sanctity. It doesn't smell like sanctity,
anyway. If I
was going to guess I would say that smell was dead cat.
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.com/
David Lynch:
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From: Cardinal Vertigo <vertigo@alexandria.cc>
I would have guessed stale frop with a hint of BO.
--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of
the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or
wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public." Theodore Roosevelt,
twenty-sixth
President of the United States
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From: Joe Cosby <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl>
No that's "Teen Spirit"
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.com/
"Well, fuck you too, chuckles!"
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>
polar bear <bear@pole.com> wrote:
> "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>
wrote:
> > Paranoid? Me?
>
> snip
> > So this morning I called them. Turns out
I remember paying the
> > PREVIOUS bill. Two weeks ago, they put the
new bill in my box. I
> > haven't BEEN to the box since then, so I didn't
get, or pay, that bill,
> > so, they locked the box, so I couldn't get
mail until I'd paid my bill.
> > However the hell I was supposed to GET the
bill.
> >
>
> LOL. Catch 22.
>
> And here I thought it was something sinister, like
Homeland Securidad
> finally catching up with you.
The post office lady thought it was funny, too.
The Secret Service first visited my house about SubGenius
in 1983. I
first had to call the FBI myself in 1985. Apparently
the FBI lost their
notes from that session because some Cleveland FBI agent
called the
sherriff of the little town near Brushwood just before
X-Day 98 to
inform him that a death cult was about to commit mass
suicide at
Brushwood. The Sherriff thought that was hilarious and
told Brushwood,
and that's how we heard about it.
Every year there is at least one pagan out there who
prevents us from
committing mass suicide by praying and doing rituals.
(We hear about
these indirectly, usually, a couple of weeks later at
Starwood.)
The death threats that I get nowadays almost always
come from purple
types pretending to be insane Christians in order to
sound scary. I
don't believe I've ever gotten a death threat from a
real Christian.
It's mostly New Agers who become furious when it finally
sinks in that
we, for instance, not only don't believe that aliens
make crop circles;
we are CERTAIN (from watching the home movies of it)
that SUBGENII and
their SPEEDFREAK BUDDIES make them. That sort of thing
is what pisses
off the real kooks. Christians are used to being bashed,
but from what
I can tell, New Age believers are generally EVEN DUMBER;
they get
angrier, because it takes them so LONG to figure out
that we are NOT
ACTUALLY ON THEIR SIDE.
The original death threat that I had to call the feds
about came from
Bob Black, the discredited anarchism historian. Actually
Black was
swearing to kill Nenslo for going out with a gal who
had long since
dumped Black. But Black informed me that he had sent
my family's
address to the Church of the Creator and other white
supremacist groups
that I had trashed in High Weirdness by Mail. Then the
Chruch of the
Creator -- whose members HAD murdered people and been
caught for it --
PUBLISHED a death threat against "the Jew Stang."
(I wasn't even MARIED
to a Jew, THEN!) That was when I first called the FBI
with the old "You
ever see MAD Magazine?" bit.
Then I didn't hear from them again for a couple of years.
In 1987 or so
they phoned and asked if I had gotten any more interesting
death
threats, but I hadn't, then.
In the early 90s an FBI guy showed up and asked if they
could do
surveilance on the crack dealers in the apts behind
our house... he
looked all over the house for places to "spy on
the crack dealers
from". I thought the whole thing rather odd. There
probably WERE crack
dealers back there but the whole thing seemed fishy.
After that one
visit the guy never came back. We joshed about how probably
he planted
secret microphones so they could track the activities
of our dangerous
subversive cult. If so, he left the mikes there and
their batteries
have probably run down.
It's such a moot point. If "They" want to
"GET" you they CAN. If "They"
wanted to mike my house and tap my lines, I would feel
VERY SORRY for
the guy assigned to do the peeping and surveiling. As
even my closest
pals will attest, I avoid the phone and email and when
I DO talk on
those, I'm usually bragging about my kids or talking
about monster
movies or computer geek stuff. If they taped my house
noises they'd
hear the running comedy routine that is normal conversation
for Wei and
me, and a sort of a whack-whack-whack sound when she's
gone, and they
might be entertained by that, but I doubt if they'd
find much to
justify keeping us in their surveilance budget. I save
my subversive
statements for The Hour of Slack where anybody can hear
them, but
probably nobody EXCEPT that one bored paid fed listener
does. And
really I just play straight man to Lonesome, thus letting
him say all
the subversive and evil treasonous stuff. Then I joke
about how I'll
throw food over the fence to him when he's in the concentration
camp.
Har har har.
I imagine that the feds still check on us occasionally.
They probably
SHOULD.
Incidentally, what was in the P.O. box was a big heavy
box from Jesus
and Magdalen full of X-Day postcards. I should have
driven, not walked.
It was so hot we decided to see that movie Shrek 2.
The Puss-in-Boots character in that is so fucking god
damned funny that
I lak to peed my britches from laughing. My glasses
actually got all
blurry from the tears.
Shrek 2 has gorgeous art design, and superb character
animation, and is
a WET DREAM for PLUMPER FANS. Shrek's wife Fiona has
got to be the
HOTTEST animated female I have laid eyes on since Jessica
Rabbit, and I
would SURE like to see the animators' naughty after-hours
"out-takes"
some day. The Fairy Godmother for that matter is the
ultimate in hot
Older Plumper Babes. OH yeah. Both these animated gals
have inhumanly
PERFECT skin, like Dot in Reboot, but they also have
MMMMMM, PERFECT
SHAPES! Ngogngogngogn... the "R. Crumb" in
me was OVERDOSING.
I would fuck those virtual babes' WIREFRAMES ALONE,
let me tell you.
They are so hot I'd blow the whole TEAM OF GUYS that
ANIMATED them.
Hell I'd blow the MOTION-TRACKING TECHNICIAN. Well,
maybe that's going
a bit far. But oooh-doggies. YAS baby.
I am not a big Michael Myers fan so I was not expecting
to specially
like the movie, but they had me bawling already in the
FIRST FIVE
MINUTES because the love montage between Shrek and his
new wife
reminded me so much of me and Wei. All ogres who have
found True Yeti
Mates will know what I'm saying... all three or four
of you...
Anyway the fucking CAT in the movie had me SQUEALING
with laughter, no
shit. It is an uncannily realistic cat and yet uncannily
humanoid at
the same time. Antonio Banderas, voicing the character,
re-proves that
he is a natural comic actor. But the facial expressions
are what really
get you. The makers of this gigantic self-referential
Hollywood
blockbuster, while perhaps serving Satan by that virtue,
at least
recognize what animation is GOOD FOR, and didn't waste
their time with
that expensive equipment. I could predict every plot
move way ahead of
time, so don't expect a terribly surprising story. But
it is funny as
hell from the visual standpoint alone.
NOTE: watch for SubGeniuslike characteristics in the
400-foot-tall
retarded Gingerbread Man.
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
PRABOB
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From: Joe Cosby <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl>
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>
wrote:
>The original death threat that I had to call the
feds about came from
>Bob Black, the discredited anarchism historian.
Actually Black was
>swearing to kill Nenslo for going out with a gal
who had long since
>dumped Black. But Black informed me that he had
sent my family's
>address to the Church of the Creator and other white
supremacist groups
>that I had trashed in High Weirdness by Mail.
Jesus what a putz.
I used to like Bob Black. He wrote some good stuff.
I have heard a lot of kinda vague stories about what
a jerk he was but
never anything specific like that.
>It was so hot we decided to see that movie Shrek
2.
>
>The Puss-in-Boots character in that is so fucking
god damned funny that
>I lak to peed my britches from laughing. My glasses
actually got all
>blurry from the tears.
>I am not a big Michael Myers fan so I was not expecting
to specially
>like the movie, but they had me bawling already
in the FIRST FIVE
>MINUTES
>
>Anyway the fucking CAT in the movie had me SQUEALING
with laughter,
tell the truth, you've been following me around for
the last ten years
sitting behind me in movies, haven't you?
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.com/
"My energies are much better spent teaching people
to eat pork than teaching
pigs to be civilized."
- (Dr K. "Cortez" Legume)
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