From: Hardly Boffin <hardlyboffin@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: hardlyboffin@NOSPAMyahoo.com
Date: Thu, Mar 25, 2004 11:32 PM
Message-ID: <1067cm8kc3vc6dd@corp.supernews.com>
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> I'm glad that Hardly is trying to present his case
in a dispute.
> I could offer my guesses about this, but it would
be much better
> if Hardly speaks for himself.
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Helloo Ivan; With the 'open letter' jazz, I was mearly
trying to
make a public notice as to why 'Bucky was unwelcome
on
MWOWM.SubGenius.net:6667.
Its fairly simple. He regularly talks shit abou tthings
he has no
knowledge of for personal gain without thought about
the damage
of his own. I posted similar on UberBoard but i figure
i aught to
complete the motions here.
As posted on Uber; I had gone into much detail
(which was
to accompany the logs) in making the events public to
press my
point/thoughts as to bucky's true nature & intentions.
I now can't find the text file i was composing it all
in.
Suffice to say.. and compounded by the nobody really
giving a fuck; and the time passing factors; i've given
up on
this topic for the most part. If however i come upon
the
unfinished work, i'll surely post it.
Here though is the raw log of the events which occurred.
-----------------------
[04:57] <absSHRiNe> how in the FUCK did my homepage
get set to
subgenius.net?????
[04:57] <absSHRiNe> WTF?
[04:57] <absSHRiNe> I never go there
[04:57] <absSHRiNe> WTF?
[04:57] <Bucky> absSHRiNe: it happenns
[04:57] <Bucky> they're really great for shit
like that
[04:58] <absSHRiNe> LIKE FUCK IT DOES
[04:58] <absSHRiNe> who the fuck hacked me?
[04:58] <Bucky> no one
[04:58] <absSHRiNe> oh, no one
[04:58] <Bucky> it's called browser co-opting
[04:58] <absSHRiNe> uh uh
[04:58] <absSHRiNe> I dont go to any of the subgenius
pages
[04:58] <absSHRiNe> \wtf?
[04:58] <Bucky> oh, well, then
[04:59] <Bucky> i'd pu tmy money on .. hardly
[04:59] <absSHRiNe> how did it happen if I didn;'t
go there?
[04:59] <Bucky> but that's jsut a guess
[04:59] <Bucky> i dunno
[04:59] <RevChukCanuk> voodoo
[04:59] <absSHRiNe> that's not voodoo its invasion
[04:59] <absSHRiNe> that is fucking bullshit
[04:59] <RevChukCanuk> some one hacked you?
[05:00] <RevChukCanuk> I went to the site and
I'm fine
[05:00] <absSHRiNe> how else would my default
homepage get
dandomly reset to a page I never go tol?
-----------
After trying to deny any wrong doing on mwowm.subgenius.net
to me
personally; me not buying it - followed the continued
logs.
-----------
[05:37] <Bucky> for the record: i (Bucky) do not
believe that
hardly boffin or any of the subgenius networks crew
are involved
in and kind of browser hijacking or co-opting.
[05:37] <Bucky> it's probably beyond the scope
of their technical
knowledge, anyways
[05:38] <weinholt> browser hijacking? :)
[05:38] <weinholt> who brought forth these accusations?
:)
[05:38] <Ankara> heh
[05:38] <Ankara> funny you should ask
[05:38] <Bucky> twas me
[05:38] <Bucky> ina moment of mistaken finger
pointing
[05:39] <weinholt> i wouldn't put it past them
[05:41] <Bucky> well, i've been chatting elsewher
with hardly and
he's very upset about his name being dragged through
teh mud like
that
[05:41] <Bucky> and then you're all like "well,
i wouldn't put it
past them"
[05:41] <Bucky> which was exaclty my point
[05:42] <anarkissed> I would put it past them.
i would be shocked
to hear subgenius was engaging in such despicable actions
[05:42] <anarkissed> tomfoolery, sure, but something
as
disgusting as browser hijacking, never
[05:42] <weinholt> you don't know these guys
[05:42] <Bucky> i am, however, quite convinced
(now) that they
don't/won't do it
[05:42] <Bucky> weinholt: none of us do, really
[05:43] <anarkissed> I'm sure they have the ability,
but not the
baseness
[05:44] <anarkissed> or rather, to where they'll
go, I should say
[05:44] <Bucky> anarkissed: you've actually go
tit backwards
[05:44] <Bucky> tey've the desire, but not the
ability
[05:44] <Bucky> either way, they aren't doing
it
[05:50] <absSHRiNe> hell htey supported and hosted
my website for
quite a while
[05:50] <absSHRiNe> at least large protions of
it
[05:50] <absSHRiNe> including huge streaming audio
files
[05:50] <absSHRiNe> for that I am thankful that
they were there
the end
-----------------------
While I am personally grateful for all you have done
in coining
the genra; It obvious to 'us why 'they act as they do.
None of
'Bob's idiots can possiably claim to understand what
or even have
witnessed what 'we do or are about. Why we do it or
who we've
done for.
In short,
I may be a paid member, but im not in your 'group.
It's not about "Bob" over here and although
some of us
had at one time wished to pay homage, using naming conventions
patterened after or even by the church; actions such
as above
have all but put an end to anyone even giving a shit;
and being
glad for it. We are SubGenius by the defnition allowed
to us over
the years. I'll personally prove this; by law if need
be.
-----------------------
hom.age
n.
1. Special honor or respect shown or expressed publicly.
See Synonyms at honor.
-----------------------
gen.re
n.
1. A category of artistic composition, as in music or
literature,
marked by a distinctive style, form, or content: Judge
Cal's show
'High Weirdness' (pseudo.com) was a years ahead of the
curve..
ground breaking as an important works in the genre.
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Subject: Re: Dead Letter about Bucky : aka/not so HiP@UseNet'n
From: nenslo <nenslo@yahoox.com>
Hardly Boffin wrote:
> We are SubGenius by the defnition allowed to us
over
> the years. I'll personally prove this; by law if
need be.
>
I am looking forward to seeing this happen.
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Subject: Re: Dead Letter about Bucky : aka/not so HiP@UseNet'n
From: Hardly Boffin <hardlyboffin@yahoo.com>
http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=nenslo
cheers
--
Hardly Boffin
#17 Tower Road - Undertowers, Westmarch
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Subject: Re: Dead Letter about Bucky : aka/not so HiP@UseNet'n
From: "Bucky" <bucky@subgenius.com>
"Hardly Boffin" <hardlyboffin@yahoo.com>
wrote in message
news:1067cm8kc3vc6dd@corp.supernews.com...
> Its fairly simple. He regularly talks shit abou
tthings he has no
> knowledge of for personal gain without thought
about the damage
> of his own. I posted similar on UberBoard but i
figure i aught to
> complete the motions here.
Okay, i don't know what you're trying to say in the
above paragraph, but i
think it goes a long way towards my earlier "allegations"
about you being a
"kook", "nut", "frootbat",
etcetera. As for the "personal gain" you
mention
just there, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, could
you please reply to
this post explaining what you suspect i will personally
gain by showing
people (or helping you show them) what a nut you are?
>
> As posted on Uber; I had gone into much detail
(which was
> to accompany the logs) in making the events public
to press my
> point/thoughts as to bucky's true nature &
intentions.
> I now can't find the text file i was composing
it all in.
Goodness me, isn't *that* convenient.
>
> Suffice to say.. and compounded by the nobody really
> giving a fuck; and the time passing factors; i've
given up on
> this topic for the most part. If however i come
upon the
> unfinished work, i'll surely post it.
Oh, trust me, there's quite a few people who "give
a fuck" about you,
Hardly. And time isn't really a factor, unless you're
trying to say that
you've become bored with the whole Church, in which
case I'd strongly urge
you to advise the US Patent Office that you've become
bored with your own
frivolous little game.
>
> Here though is the raw log of the events which
occurred.
> -----------------------
> [04:57] <absSHRiNe> how in the FUCK did my
homepage get set to
> subgenius.net?????
> [04:57] <absSHRiNe> WTF?
> [04:57] <absSHRiNe> I never go there
> [04:57] <absSHRiNe> WTF?
> [04:57] <Bucky> absSHRiNe: it happenns
> [04:57] <Bucky> they're really great for
shit like that
> [04:58] <absSHRiNe> LIKE FUCK IT DOES
> [04:58] <absSHRiNe> who the fuck hacked me?
> [04:58] <Bucky> no one
> [04:58] <absSHRiNe> oh, no one
> [04:58] <Bucky> it's called browser co-opting
> [04:58] <absSHRiNe> uh uh
> [04:58] <absSHRiNe> I dont go to any of the
subgenius pages
> [04:58] <absSHRiNe> \wtf?
> [04:58] <Bucky> oh, well, then
> [04:59] <Bucky> i'd pu tmy money on .. hardly
> [04:59] <absSHRiNe> how did it happen if
I didn;'t go there?
> [04:59] <Bucky> but that's jsut a guess
> [04:59] <Bucky> i dunno
> [04:59] <RevChukCanuk> voodoo
> [04:59] <absSHRiNe> that's not voodoo its
invasion
> [04:59] <absSHRiNe> that is fucking bullshit
> [04:59] <RevChukCanuk> some one hacked you?
> [05:00] <RevChukCanuk> I went to the site
and I'm fine
> [05:00] <absSHRiNe> how else would my default
homepage get
> dandomly reset to a page I never go tol?
> -----------
> After trying to deny any wrong doing on mwowm.subgenius.net
to me
> personally; me not buying it - followed the continued
logs.
> -----------
> [05:37] <Bucky> for the record: i (Bucky)
do not believe that
> hardly boffin or any of the subgenius networks
crew are involved
> in and kind of browser hijacking or co-opting.
> [05:37] <Bucky> it's probably beyond the
scope of their technical
> knowledge, anyways
> [05:38] <weinholt> browser hijacking? :)
> [05:38] <weinholt> who brought forth these
accusations? :)
> [05:38] <Ankara> heh
> [05:38] <Ankara> funny you should ask
> [05:38] <Bucky> twas me
> [05:38] <Bucky> ina moment of mistaken finger
pointing
> [05:39] <weinholt> i wouldn't put it past
them
****You missed the bit where i was laughing at you so
hard that i almost wet
myself.****
[06:35] <Bucky> oh god, weinholt
[06:35] <Bucky> you made me cry
[06:36] <weinholt> elucidate
****The time difference in the portions of the log that
I'm filling in are
because I'm in a different time zone, not because they
happened at a
different time.****
> [05:41] <Bucky> well, i've been chatting
elsewher with hardly and
> he's very upset about his name being dragged through
teh mud like
> that
> [05:41] <Bucky> and then you're all like
"well, i wouldn't put it
> past them"
> [05:41] <Bucky> which was exaclty my point
> [05:42] <anarkissed> I would put it past
them. i would be shocked
> to hear subgenius was engaging in such despicable
actions
> [05:42] <anarkissed> tomfoolery, sure, but
something as
> disgusting as browser hijacking, never
> [05:42] <weinholt> you don't know these guys
****See, right here is where we happen upon one of the
BIG FUCKING PROBLEMS
i have with you idiots, you give the Church a bad name,
and the rest of us
are left to explain that you guys aren't a part of the
Church of the
SubGenius(r). You go way the hell out of your way not
to do this on your own,
and I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that
you're doing it either
to negatively affect the reputation of the Church, or
to leech off of the
good one it happens to have in certain circles. That
being said, here's the
part where several of us have to try and explain your
fucking group to
someone who you've intentionally misinformed.****
[06:38] <anarkissed> tomfoolery, sure, but something
as disgusting as
browser hijacking, never
[06:38] <Bucky> i am, however, quite convinced
(now) that they don't/won't
do it
[06:38] <weinholt> you don't know these guys
[06:38] <Bucky> weinholt: none of us do, really
[06:38] <anarkissed> I'm sure they have the ability,
but not the baseness
[06:38] <weinholt> i've seen a side you haven't
seen
[06:39] <weinholt> back when they tried to recruit
me...
[06:39] <anarkissed> I've been hanging around
the fringes of this group for
7 years
[06:39] <anarkissed> there are limits to which
they'll go
[06:39] <anarkissed> or rather, to where they'll
go, I should say
[06:39] <Bucky> anarkissed: you've actually go
tit backwards
[06:39] <Bucky> tey've the desire, but not the
ability
[06:40] <Bucky> either way, they aren't doing
it
[06:40] <tenebras>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/uclickcomics/20040315/cx_bo_uc/bo20040315
[06:40] * Katie (english_ro@cpc2-brig5-3-0-cust12.brtn.cable.ntl.com)
has
joined #subgenius
[06:40] <anarkissed> fuck you asshole, if you
think that of this group, why
stay around?
[06:40] <Katie> lol
[06:40] <Katie> hi
[06:40] <Bucky> anarkissed: you're confusing groups,man
[06:40] <Bucky> no offence, but there's a difference
between the church and
the .net
[06:40] <anarkissed> maybe, I am of the impression
you're saying these
things about the subgenii
[06:41] <Bucky> a biiiiig difference
[06:41] <Bucky> no no no
[06:41] <Ankara> .anarkissed. it's not worth getting
into....its an
infighting thing...
[06:41] <Bucky> yeah, it's a littel complicated
fo rthis time in the morning
[06:41] <anarkissed> all I know is the people
I know from the church of the
subgenius are NOT like that and are furthermore quite
talented
[06:42] <Bucky> yes
[06:42] <Bucky> i agree wholheartedly
[06:42] <anarkissed> ok then
[06:42] <Bucky> i'm talking about a completely
different group
[06:42] * anarkissed ruffles her feathers back down
[06:42] <Bucky> one that retains abslutely no
ties to the church
[06:42] <Ankara> hi katie
[06:43] <Ankara> welcome to subgneius fef net
chat
[06:43] <Bucky> wafer thin mint, Katie?
[06:43] <Ankara> we are completely insane....and
are ready to kill each
other at any second......tea?
[06:43] <absSHRiNe> there is a schism of hackers
who perform dubious actions
and are occasionally supect for various things they
have sometimes done and
somertimes not
[06:44] <Bucky> oh, god
[06:44] <Ankara> there is no schism of hackers....not
anymore
[06:44] <Bucky> dont' call them hackers
****So the text below seems rather strongly edited,
compared to the actual
raw log above. Gee, i wonder why he didn't put that
part in his post.****
> [05:42] <Bucky> i am, however, quite convinced
(now) that they
> don't/won't do it
> [05:42] <Bucky> weinholt: none of us do,
really
> [05:43] <anarkissed> I'm sure they have the
ability, but not the
> baseness
> [05:44] <anarkissed> or rather, to where
they'll go, I should say
> [05:44] <Bucky> anarkissed: you've actually
go tit backwards
> [05:44] <Bucky> tey've the desire, but not
the ability
> [05:44] <Bucky> either way, they aren't doing
it
> [05:50] <absSHRiNe> hell htey supported and
hosted my website for
> quite a while
> [05:50] <absSHRiNe> at least large protions
of it
> [05:50] <absSHRiNe> including huge streaming
audio files
> [05:50] <absSHRiNe> for that I am thankful
that they were there
>
> the end
> -----------------------
****Indeed, the end of another overly edited and "spun"
logfile. Odd that
you happen to have any log of that conversation at all,
though. You weren't
in the channel at the time. Perhaps the differences
are because the person
who gave you the log had edited it first? Wait, that
wouldn't make sense,
you were reading and logging that conversation through
your bot. Hmm...
Well, i suppose if you feel up to it, you can blame
one of your several
other personalities for it.****
> While I am personally grateful for all you have
done in coining
> the genra; It obvious to 'us why 'they act as they
do. None of
> 'Bob's idiots can possiably claim to understand
what or even have
> witnessed what 'we do or are about. Why we do it
or who we've
> done for.
I'm not even going to bother trying to interpret the
phrase "coining the
genra". As for the obviousness of "our"
actions to "you"; i highly doubt
you've even a quarter of the intellect required to figure
out why i tie my
shoes. I don't claim to know exactly why you do the
things you do, because
you simply refuse to answer any of my questions. Instead
you insist that I'm
"trolling" or "baiting" you, and
go off on a paranoid rampage about how "we"
are all out to get you.
>
> In short,
> I may be a paid member, but im not in your 'group.
> It's not about "Bob" over here and although
some of us
> had at one time wished to pay homage, using naming
conventions
> patterened after or even by the church; actions
such as above
> have all but put an end to anyone even giving a
shit; and being
> glad for it. We are SubGenius by the defnition
allowed to us over
> the years. I'll personally prove this; by law if
need be.
Fine, you're perfectly free to go. If you want to be
convincing about it,
though, you might want to consider withdrawing your
opposition to the
registration of the trademark. I'm not speaking on behalf
of the Church of
the SubGenius(r) when i say so, but i strongly doubt
that anyone's going to
miss you. As far as your claim about "it"
not being about "Bob" over
"there", I'd have to ask why it is that so
many people think that you and
your site are affiliated with the Church of the SubGenius(r).
It could be all
the pipesmoking faces in the images on your website,
or perhaps the links to
all the Church of the SubGenius(r) sanctioned/produced
radio shows? Perhaps
it's that you link yourself to the webpages of members
of the church,
regardless of whether or not they want to be linked
to? I mean, almost
everything you link to has the Dobbs seal of approval.
But you're entirely
outside the Church already, right? Speaking of Dobbs,
maybe people are
confusing you with the Church because of the notice
on the bottom of all
your webpages that proclaims that "SubGenius Networks
is a service mark of
DobbsCo"?
As far as your "proving" anything by law,
my opinion is the exact opposite
of nenslo's. I *don't* want you to try and prove *anything*.
I want you to
give it up. You might even save yourself the trouble
and expense of getting
fined for filing a frivolous petition. A good friend
of mine with some
experience in the matter put it best, but I'll paraphrase
for the sake of
brevity.
The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board doesn't care how
you *feel* about the
word "SubGenius", nor do they care whether
or not your demented little mind
thinks that you "know the true meaning of the word".
They are concerned with
one thing, and one thing only. They are only concerned
about whether or not
your company used the word in *trade* before the year
1981. You didn't. You
were about ten years old (me, i was busy being born,
so i sure as hell
wasn't using it). You're fucking with shit that is just
way too big for your
feeble little mind to comprehend. you're way out of
your league, Hardly.
So in summation, the main reason I'm bringing this up
is because "you" are
causing some of my *friends* some amount of expense
and anxiety. You're also
fucking with the operation of my chosen religion. I
expect that every
fucking penny i spend on Church merchandise will go
(within reason) to stuff
that'll make my life better. Be it a new DVD, a devival,
or just to make
sure all the employees of the SubGenius Foundation don't
start to starve, i
want to rest assured that my money is where "Bob"
wants it. Every lawyer
that has to get involved, every second of time that
Stang, Jesus, or
Magdalen have to put up with stress from kooks like
you is being PAID FOR by
those of us who *do* believe that it *is* about "Bob",
it *is* about Slack,
it *is* about a new pair of Dobbshead boxer shorts.
Now fucking stop it.
>
> -----------------------
> hom.age
> n.
> 1. Special honor or respect shown or expressed
publicly.
> See Synonyms at honor.
> -----------------------
> gen.re
> n.
> 1. A category of artistic composition, as in music
or literature,
> marked by a distinctive style, form, or content:
Judge Cal's show
> 'High Weirdness' (pseudo.com) was a years ahead
of the curve..
> ground breaking as an important works in the genre.
And can you quit with the stupid definitions, if i wanted
to read a
dictionary, I'd read one. Hell, I'm thinking that judging
by your spelling
alone, you could use a little more time alone with one
yourself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Hardly Boffin <hardlyboffin@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 26, 2004 9:18 AM
Alright; i'll play. just for you bucky.
Kooky o'le Hardly.. talkin to Bucky.
dupe
Bucky wrote:
> Okay, i don't know what you're trying to say in
the above
> paragraph, but i think it goes a long way towards
my earlier
> "allegations" about you being a "kook",
"nut", "frootbat",
> etcetera. As for the "personal gain"
you mention just there,
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean, could you
please reply to
> this post explaining what you suspect i will personally
gain
> by showing people (or helping you show them) what
a nut you are?
quotie quote kookie quote kook.
quokie.. koquie
fuqie stupie
dupe
>> As posted on Uber; I had gone into much
detail (which was
>>to accompany the logs) in making the events
public to press my
>>point/thoughts as to bucky's true nature &
intentions.
>>I now can't find the text file i was composing
it all in.
>
>
> Goodness me, isn't *that* convenient.
isn't what convenient.
:as if i couldn't of anticipated that reply.
what do you care that i lost a collection of thoughts
you program
dupe
>>Suffice to say.. and compounded by the nobody
really
>>giving a fuck; and the time passing factors;
i've given up on
>>this topic for the most part. If however i come
upon the
>>unfinished work, i'll surely post it.
>
> Oh, trust me, there's quite a few people who "give
a fuck"
> about you, Hardly. And time isn't really a factor,
unless
> you're trying to say that you've become bored
with the whole
> Church, in which case I'd strongly urge you to
advise the
> US Patent Office that you've become bored with
your own
> frivolous little game.
>
The simplt fact that you "don't"
understand.. more like.. you -cant even imagine! -that
a
purposely.., intentionally, undefined word might of
developed;
coining definition the very genre it was created around;
after
nearly twenty years of public use .. to evolve and encompass
more
than the simple supposed intention of it's creator.
can you even follow that paragraph?
of course prolly not
dupe
//SNIP logs and ignoramic drivle
> ****See, right here is where we happen upon one
of the
> BIG FUCKING PROBLEM i have with you idiots, you
give the
> Church a bad name, and the rest of us are left
to explain
> that you guys aren't a part of the Church of the
> SubGenius(r).
Thats a great paragraph.
Might their be hope for you still?
Hardly. ..dupe
You are right though. 'We, are not 'The Church of the
SubGenius'
Me personally; if i were, I would most likely be a deacon.
http://www.deacons.net/Articles/Who_is_a_Deacon.htm
'We ARE everything else.
It's not some web-site that is SubGenius Networks.
This is only YOUR perception. Your perception is obscured.
>>While I am personally grateful for all you have
done in coining
>>the genra; It obvious to 'us why 'they act as
they do. None of
>>'Bob's idiots can possiably claim to understand
what or even have
>>witnessed what 'we do or are about. Why we do
it or who we've
>>done for.
>
>
> I'm not even going to bother trying to interpret
> the phrase "coining the genra".
I know, it's obvious to most you can't even fathom it's
meaning.
dare i say.. dupe
> As far as your claim about "it" not
being about "Bob" over
> "there", I'd have to ask why it is that
so many people think
> that you and your site are affiliated with the
Church of the
> SubGenius(r). It could be all the pipesmoking faces
in the images
> on your website, or perhaps the links to all the
Church of the
> SubGenius(r) sanctioned/produced radio shows? Perhaps
it's that
> you link yourself to the webpages of members of
the church,
> regardless of whether or not they want to be linked
to? I mean,
> almost everything you link to has the Dobbs seal
of approval.
>> hom.age
>> n.
>> 1. Special honor or respect shown or expressed
publicly.
Your right there though. Had it been you interest ever
to find
for yourself you'd know the truth.
But then, you already believe you do.
is it bliss?
> A good friend of mine with some experience in the
matter put
> it best, but I'll paraphrase for the sake of brevity.
>
> The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board doesn't care
how you
> *feel* about the word "SubGenius", nor
do they care whether
> or not your demented little mind thinks that you
"know the
> true meaning of the word".
> They are concerned with one thing, and one thing
only.
> They are only concerned about whether or not your
company
> used the word in *trade* before the year 1981.
> You're way out of your league, Hardly.
That was wonderful. I think i might be developing a
taste for
newsgroups. In return i've got a quote from a friend
of mine for
you likewise; then one from me.
Bucky is Maggys bitch /quote
. Come get some.
> The main reason I'm bringing this up is because
"you" are
> causing some of my *friends* some amount of expense
and anxiety.
As for pipe's and smiling faces.. and media which was
spun off of
or which spun 'High Weirdness or as you say is 'sanctioned'.
..By Dobbs. This is all irrelevant., as relevant. as
it might be.
I will go into a full-bore trademark argument before
this is
through. That is infact my very desire and intention
from the
outset. This however, is what we call a 'discovery period'.
Defining that for you though might spoil it.
> You're also
> fucking with the operation of my chosen religion.
Personally; im not the religious type. i do have faith
though.
Faith that the cost of discipleship is surpassed only
by it's
rewards.
> I expect that every
> fucking penny i spend on Church merchandise will
go (within
> reason) to stuff that'll make my life better.
Be it a new DVD,
> a devival, or just to make sure all the employees
of the
> SubGenius Foundation don't start to starve, i want
to rest
> assured that my money is where "Bob"
wants it.
"drugged out drunken stup0r" - ring any bells?
. Sorry i don't have a timestamp for you.
. i think you know her though.
> Every lawyer
> that has to get involved, every second of time
is being PAID
> FOR by those of us who *do* believe that it *is*
about "Bob",
> it *is* about Slack, it *is* about a new pair of
Dobbshead boxer
> shorts.
>
"Bob" is TheSalesman. Maybe you should buy more. moe.
> And can you quit with the stupid definitions, if
i wanted
> to read a dictionary, I'd read one. Hell, I'm thinking
> that judging by your spelling alone, you could
use a little
> more time alone with one yourself.
Becuz spellinks soo mimportant.
DUPE.
dis.ci.ple (n).
1. One who embraces and assists in spreading the teachings
of
another.
--
Happy Birthday Aretha
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>
Date: Fri, Mar 26, 2004 11:44 AM
Hardly, please tell us what will happen if The SubGenius
Foundation
finally gets its long-sought trademark on the term "SubGenius,"
and why
you need to prevent that happening.
PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Dead Letter about Bucky
From: "ghost" <ghost@ghost.net>
Stang,
Having read too much about all this, I do not envy you
having to deal with
all these weenies (and the deanies).
There is not enough coffee and cigarettes in THE WORLD for all this shit.
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From: polar bear <bear@pole.com>
In article <1068f1jk9m7e52c@corp.supernews.com>,
Hardly Boffin
<hardlyboffin@yahoo.com> wrote:
snip
>
> The simplt fact that you "don't"
> understand.. more like.. you -cant even imagine!
-that a
> purposely.., intentionally, undefined word might
of developed;
That's "might HAVE developed." Auxilliary verb
OF is a preposition, usually indicating posession.
It's not used to form verb tenses.
This is a fairly common mistake, caused by contracting
HAVE to 'VE,
which sounds like OF. Eg: I might've developed better
language skills
if I'd paid more attention in class.
HTH
pb
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Subject: Re: Dead Letter about Bucky
From: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
You know, after hearing about this silliness for some
time now, I'd
say that the real down-home core "issue" is
simply that you're no FUN.
The whole thing is about FUN and you're neither generating
nor really
having any, it seems, unless you're creaming your jeans
because you
are a masochist. Like Bob Dean and gurdjieff, you play
one note VERY
LOUDLY and then play it some more, as if persisting
in playing it will
make it more palateable, generate any tangible status
for you or yield
you any friends, digital or in-person. What do you expect
from such
behavior? Not that I personally give a shit, but I am
idly curious.
The Church is a large and quirky group, but the overwhelming
aspect
of it is and has BEEN that its fun. Even some of the
notorious cranks
show variety and weave their own amusing threads into
the "Bob"-cloth.
Why, Nenslo is a shelled crab with an IQ of 400 and
a DQ (Disgust
Quotient) of EIGHT hundred and even he is a Valued CUSS-tomer.
You, however, I had never even HEARD of by name until
a couple of
months ago. Where were you about 24 years ago when I
had the pleasure
of being handed one of Stang's early Barrage cassettes?
Where are the
recordings of your rants, collages or music? Have you
posted any
artwork to A.B.S or the Yahoo group? Have you ever given
anyone a ride
to or from a show? Ever even bought a "fellow"
Subg a burger? Do you
engage in recognizable group conversations with any
of us? Have you
done anything but get into some peculiar trademark tangle
you'll
philophically lose, even if you "legally"
"win?" What can you possibly
do with it, regardless? If you don't want to have some
laughs or be
welcome at the party, why are you even bothering?
You can JOIN the Church but you can't take it OVER;
that would be
temporally impossible after its long existence and besides,
why would
you want to? Look at how withered Stang has become in
"running" it,
eieieiei... um. After all, part of it involves his having
to waste
time and psychic energy fending off cranky dissidents
like you. NO, he
doesn't have "Bob's" HOME PHONE NUMBER!! SHUT
UP!
My one real encounter "with" you was at the
2nd Tampa Devival. I was
assembling my keyboard stand backstage prior to performing
and was
treated to Stang raging at you for this subgenius.net
bullshit, which
he had every right to do, considering your bad manners
and perplexing
drive to "belong" by co-opting part of something
you've done nothing
to FURTHER. Thanks for taking part of the pleasure of
the event out of
my hands from a distance, shithead.
And now you've begun to publically piss on Bucky, who
does useful HTML
encoding for SubSite and is a welcome IRC participant.
You're really
working HARD for that ButtSplit Badge.
You know what will ultimately happen? You will have
wasted Stang's
time, personal and creative. You will have lessened
other people's
enjoyment of life. You will have wasted money making
legal claims that
have no legs at all. (I and people like me could honestly
sign many an
affadavit stating that Stang's Doing-Business-As with
the Church and
all of its permutations predate even your BIRTH by a
couple of years,
so if such a need arose, you'd look like a major fool
to even the most
ambulance-chasing of lawyers. Oh look, the fetus is
all cranky.) You
will find that there's no real money to be made, as
"Bob" sure hadn't
made STANG "rich." The whole schmeer has let
him buy a little computer
gear (some of which the appreciative have GIVEN him
anyway), travel
some and pay his light bill (sometimes, maybe), but
you never see him
in no stretch Caddy, that's for sure and he's busted
his hump for the
cause. Its like watching you build a straw man from
your own HAIR to
flail as you do.
Even if this whole thing is some elaborate and trashy
trolling
activity on your part, its so poorly conceived, its
like dragging a
dead bulldog around down and asking people if they'd
like to pet
"Bruno." If you are serious, its even more
pathetic. Great epitaph,
pal. Perhaps you should go back and take another look
at how clever
and well-loved "purple"/Bob Dean is and decide
if that's really the
kind of position you aspire to.
Meanwhile, get the butter. You may need some, one way
or another,
'cause you'll either be eaten or sodomized, maybe both,
heh. Ahhhh,
can you FEEL the LOVE? Nah, probably not; you don't
seem to have any
receptors for it. You're a really great poster kid for
birth control,
as well as for abortion up to the 24th year. What a
nick you picked,
too, sheesh! Tumbler of pathos for Mr. Hardly!
--
HellPope Huey
"Could you please state that in the form of
gibberish?"
"I fed my Anger Monkey a banana this morning
and he's a lot better now."
- "Anger Management"
Its a Fake thing and the Chosen all embrace its
Goofiness.
- Rev. KrustyMADfaker
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From: Hardly Boffin <hardlyboffin@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, Mar 27, 2004 2:46 AM
HellPopeHuey wrote:
> The whole thing is about FUN and you're neither
generating
> nor really having any.
I Agree; Usually I would argue those accusations.
Lately however, they are correct. When im not stuck
defending my
brothers/myself or dedicating resources to utter bullshit,
i am
having fun as well as generating it for those in my
circles.
You couldnt possibly know that, i understand.
its a Perception & pertinent relevance issue.
Again you don't know about the things i do, my interests,
or the
effects and pleasure it brings to those i do them with.
> What do you expect from such behavior?
> Not that I personally give a shit, but I am idly
curious.
idly
Lacking substance, value, or basis.
--
This latest incursion into bobbiesville has though,
one redeemer.
It's been education in a couple areas. Mainly newsgroup
client
setup and posting -so i's not been a total loss as little
pleasure as it has brought. I'm currently using Mozilla
v1.7 and
wrapping lines at 65 characters. I finally just 'Marked
all as
read' for the first time =).. and am viewing only 'New,
'Flag and
'Marked posts. View Emoticons_as_Graphics="Off"
// FUCK EMOTICONS
You are right none the less.
Except for the learning curve, this is not fun.
I will take leave for a while.
Thank you all. I will reply to the last Stang post in
this thread
when i return as well as send several posts i'll be
working on.
until
then.
---
pertinent
adj.
Having logical precise relevance to the matter at
hand.
---
relevance
adj.
Having a bearing on or connection with the matter
at hand.
---
perception
n.
Insight, intuition, or knowledge gained by perceiving.
The capacity for such insight.
100?1100110?010?1110??1010?0110??101?001110?101?001011??100?1001?
Aloha >:D<
Hardly Boffin
#17 Tower Road
Undertowers, Westmarch
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>
I am thankful that you are giving the readers of alt.slack
a chance to
get to know you better. It's so much better if you explain
your
position, yourself, than if I try to do it.
--
PRABOB
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From: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)
20 quatloos says he's never kissed a girl, but FORTY
says he's a real
stallion when on the bottom with an ice house biker
who is wearing
nothing but chaps and a cap that says "I'm In Stupid."
Darnit, there
goes the last illusion of my moral superiority. Goddamn
you,
alt.slack, you've ruinnned meeeeeeee, RUINED
MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT MY THIRTY CENTS
BACK!!! What?
Dollars? Thirty dollars? Shit, so THAT'S been the problem
all along.
I'm gonna KILL that Philo.
--
HellPope Huey
A man can UNDERSTAND women, up to a point,
but to say he KNOWS what they want is another gig.
That's like saying you know
what's making the cat fart like a motorboat.
"We're not dating as much as
we're sleeping together until he runs out of
money."
- "Less Than Perfect"
"Now I'm off to some charity ball
for knocked-up teenaged sluts."
- Mom, "Futurama"
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