Subject: No really

From: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)
Date: Sun, May 2, 2004

With all the talent on here, how come no one is putting out a grassroots mag en
masse? Not even SubGenius, just in that vein?

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From: Joe Cosby <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl>

The one thing absolutely inevitably guaranteed to ruin a good thing is
success.

So I for one would be happy to take part as long as it was guaranteed
to suck.

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>

I'm still in debt from the attempt, myself.

Both times I seriously started to answer this question, which I can in
some detail, I ended up NOT hitting "SEND," just "save." I realized my
little educational rants, based on personal experience writing for
magazines, and publishing one, would insult all the wrong people -- the
ones who actually have and use skills would mistakenly think I was
addressing THEM -- and would go right over the heads of the chronic
full-time complainers and Big Talkers that my pointed comments were
directed at. So rather than join the ranks of the whiners and wonderers
myself, I went back to work on the SubGenius project I happen to be
trying to finish currently. (Which TOTALLY FUCKING KICKS ASS BEYOND
HUMAN SEMBLANCE, I might add! Thanks to numerous SubGenius arteests and
musicians.)

Nu-monet answered the question anyway down at the bottom of his reply,
in one sentence. Publishing and distributing magazines? Has everything
to do with $ -- who has how much, and what they decide to spend it on,
day by day.

One thing walks, but the other thing talks and talks and talks, after
spending the first thing on cigarets and beer.

But anyway -- the "grassroots mag en masse" that you're talking about?
YOU ARE READING AN ARTICLE IN IT, RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE SITTING NOW.

The pictures are on another "page."

--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
PRABOB

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Subject: Re: No really

kdetal@aol.com (KD et al) wrote:
> With all the talent on here, how come no one is putting out a grassroots mag en
> masse? Not even SubGenius, just in that vein?

Collection of my zine, Journal of Ride Theory:

http://www.lulu.com/content/42845

Buy it and shut up!

iggy topo

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>

You made my point much more succinctly!

And to put my money where both our mouths are, I JUST NOW ORDERED YOUR
BOOK!

Which should CEMENT the fucking point. BUY SUBGENIUS.

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From: Joe Cosby <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl>

I would if you had a few cute subgeniuses for sale up there.

Whatever happened to the white slavery initiative, anyway? Have you
been keeping up with the memos?

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.com/
No, the fact that it's an infinite loop doesn't mean the program doesn't
work; it just entered a state with which I was previously unfamiliar.

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From: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)

>With all the talent on here, how come no one is putting out a grassroots mag
>en
>masse? Not even SubGenius, just in that vein?

Becuase we all end up cutting the roots off and smoking the grass.

MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

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From: goldfingerjaws@aol.comdoofus (KrustyMADfaker)

Boogey Man shit. You don't scare me. I don't think you want a Subgenius putting
together a grassroots mag. Most have their own grass roots mag written all over
their skin. Just like that biffer in the movie "Momento". And you remember how
much fun his life was! Of course after most shed their skin it could be a good
stinky flesh compendium that rivals the original Necronomicon.

Rev. KrustyMADfaker
I'm not the kind to get worked up over gross material problems but this rankles
my ass! -Mr. Natural

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From: Rev DJ Epoch <nunyabiz@noway.com>

Jeese... whatta wonk.

Have you never heard of Quijibo?

http://www.walkingdead.net/~quijibo/

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From: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)

>> > With all the talent on here, how come no one is putting out a grassroots
>> > mag en
>> > masse? Not even SubGenius, just in that vein?
>>
>> Collection of my zine, Journal of Ride Theory:
>>
>> http://www.lulu.com/content/42845
>>
>> Buy it and shut up!
>>
>> iggy topo

>You made my point much more succinctly!
>
>And to put my money where both our mouths are, I JUST NOW ORDERED YOUR
>BOOK!
>
>Which should CEMENT the fucking point. BUY SUBGENIUS.

Well, glad some are doing their own projects.

I'll just go back to my little hovel.

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>

But you started this by saying, "I'd work on something like that for
free!" You can help with an existing one that's struggling, of which
several have been suggested, or you can start one youself. Now that
specific options have actually been presented,though, it seems like
you've changed your mind.

One reason there's no mag like you're thinking of at your local
convenience store magazine rack is that people GIVE UP TOO EASILY. You
haven't even FAILED yet, and already you sound like you decided not to
try. I failed a hundred times and I'm STILL trying. (Authenticating
that I am a True Emergentile SubGenius.)

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From: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)

>But you started this by saying, "I'd work on something like that for
>free!"

Something like, you know, *I* want to do. Heh.

You can help with an existing one that's struggling, of which
>several have been suggested,

I'm considering it.

>or you can start one youself.

That is what I want. To DO one. Only, you know, everyone is all talk etc. I
would start tomorrow ( on trying to make one somehow) with someone serious with
a similar vision/mind.

BTW I applaud your empire.

Now that
>specific options have actually been presented,though, it seems like
>you've changed your mind.

Heck no. I am seriously trying to figure out how I could do something like
that, what kind of situation I would need to be in, what I would need, etc

>One reason there's no mag like you're thinking of at your local
>convenience store magazine rack is that people GIVE UP TOO EASILY.

Well that would be mucho money mag. Grassroots from poor dipshits like me- well
I was thinking of handing it out
at metro stations or something ( large crowd there). But ooops- handing out
for free- I just violated a sacred subG rule!

>You haven't even FAILED yet, and already you sound like you decided not to
>try. I failed a hundred times and I'm STILL trying. (Authenticating
>that I am a True Emergentile SubGenius.)

LOL

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From: nenslo <nenslo@yahoox.com>

"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
> <kdetal@aol.com> wrote:
> > >> > With all the talent on here, how come no one is putting out a grassroots
> > >> > mag en
> > >> > masse? Not even SubGenius, just in that vein?

... AND THEN...

> > Well, glad some are doing their own projects.
> >
> > I'll just go back to my little hovel.
>
> But you started this by saying, "I'd work on something like that for
> free!" You can help with an existing one that's struggling, of which
> several have been suggested, or you can start one youself. Now that
> specific options have actually been presented,though, it seems like
> you've changed your mind.
>
> One reason there's no mag like you're thinking of at your local
> convenience store magazine rack is that people GIVE UP TOO EASILY. You
> haven't even FAILED yet, and already you sound like you decided not to
> try. I failed a hundred times and I'm STILL trying. (Authenticating
> that I am a True Emergentile SubGenius.)

THE "one reason" there's no etc. is that it's always a "somebody
oughta." Somebody ELSE oughta he means. He doesn't want to DO it, he
just wants it done. Probably so he can say how it isn't being done right.

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