Re: Universe 13 Billion Years Old

From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Apr 25, 2002 2:00 AM

Monseignor Tartarus Sanctus <tartarus@rome.com> hunched over a
computer, typing feverishly;
thunder crashed, Monseignor Tartarus Sanctus <tartarus@rome.com>
laughed madly, then wrote:

>http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsnews/story.tmpl?table=n&cat=50201&id=200204241621000143385
>
>WASHINGTON (AP) -
>The universe is about 13 billion years old, slightly younger than
>previously believed, according to a study that measured the cooling of
>the embers in ancient dying stars.
>&etc.
>
>Great. That's only 17 in universe years. Now I suppose it will be
>sitting outside the 7-11 begging us to get it some beer.

So you're saying the universe will exist for something like 88 billion
years altogether?

You mean this shit just KEEPS GOING?

It DOESN'T STOP?

Somebody fucking MAKE IT STOP.

Can't we invents some doomsday weapon which will make the WHOLE
FUCKING UNIVERSE JUST STOP?

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

Date: 8 June 1982 00:39-EDT
From: "J. R. \"Bob\" Dobbs" <DOBBS at MIT-AI>
Subject: Libertarian ideologies

I consider myself to be a follower of Patriopsychotic
Anarchomaterialism. This unique political meta-ideology was first
developed by Dr. Carl E. Havermist and popularized in his book "Making
Freedom Compulsory". Since it is derived completely by means of
formal mathematical principles, Patriopsychotic Anarchomaterialism is
far more rigorous and consistent than most so-called political
theories, which must continuously resort to unreliable "real-world"
data in order to support their dubious conclusions.

Patriopsychotic Anarchomaterialists support immediate repeal of the
Second Law of Thermodynamics, forced bussing of ghetto children to L-5
colonies, the right to arm bears, redistribution of intelligence,
traditional family values, and the right to urinate in different
colors.

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From: modemac@modemac.com (Modemac)

joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby) wrote in message news:<3cc79acd.45663598@news.cis.dfn.de>...
> So you're saying the universe will exist for something like 88 billion
> years altogether?
> You mean this shit just KEEPS GOING?

Scientists have been debating the question of whether the universe
will eventually slow down and collapse back into a singularity (the
Big Crunch), or if it will just KEEP GOING and expand forever.
Lately, evidence seems to be pointing towards the "expand forever"
side of the coin.

So yes, it seems possible that it will just KEEP GOING.

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From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Modemac:
>
> joecosby:
>
> > So you're saying the universe will exist for
> > something like 88 billion years altogether?
> > You mean this shit just KEEPS GOING?
>
> Scientists have been debating the question of
> whether the universe will eventually slow down
> and collapse back into a singularity (the Big
> Crunch), or if it will just KEEP GOING and expand
> forever. Lately, evidence seems to be pointing
> towards the "expand forever" side of the coin.
>
> So yes, it seems possible that it will just KEEP
> GOING.

Well, there's also the third argument that the
universe cannot be viewed topographically as a
3-D object. That at the very large scale, the
quantum rules take over, creating illogical and
counterintuitive phenomena like at the very small
scale. In this case space being so twisted,
distorted, flawed and partitioned that the
argument is moot.
(One of the latest bizarro theories is that black
holes aren't really holes, they're "bubbles"
covered with a shell of ultra-dense matter. The
bottom line is that scientists are still at the
"sitting around at the coffee house taking wild
shots" stage, trying to figure it all out.)

Tiny bubbles, in my universe.

--
"Globalism is like the worst parts of both
'Rollerball' movies, except the corporations
that rule are Colossus, AOL, Umbrella, GM
Cyberdyne-Intel, Exxon-Mobil and Soylent."
-- nu-monet

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From: "nikolai kingsley" <nikolai@broadway.net.au>

>
> Tiny bubbles, in my universe.
>

i guess it's cheaper than manufacturing an entire infinite universe. like
those chocolate bars that have bubbles of (i guess it's) air. bubbles of
nitrous, i think, would sell better.

anyway,

nikolai
---
Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam

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From: gerrit@auracom.com (Gerrit Deppe)

You are talking about THIS Universe... right?

There are many more.

Someday they will collide like soap bubbles and low and behold... the
collision will create ANOTHER big bang.

Quite the cycle.

Later
G.

Gerrits new web page:
http://www.dubyadot.dubya.dot.com

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From: IMBJR <imbjr@imbjr.com>

On 25 Apr 2002 03:59:11 -0700, modemac@modemac.com (Modemac) wrote:

>Scientists have been debating the question of whether the universe
>will eventually slow down and collapse back into a singularity (the
>Big Crunch), or if it will just KEEP GOING and expand forever.
>Lately, evidence seems to be pointing towards the "expand forever"
>side of the coin.
>
>So yes, it seems possible that it will just KEEP GOING.

Not if protons do decay [1] - then there will be nuttin but quark and
electron soop.

[1] 30 billion years is quoted as the theoretical lifespan of a
proton.

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From: rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885)

If it starts to collapse, I hope one of you will be good enough to email me.

Lots of strange concepts at play. By definition, how can there be, "other
universes?" Huh? How?

"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong"

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From: nuckfuts@fantomas.datanet.co.uk (Petehip)

Well, the old BBC seeemed to be hocking this morning the theory that
NEW big bangs just keep happening as we collide into other universes.

Thereby vindicating a STEADY STATE theory of everything.

I hope FRED HOYLE is proved right about EVERYTHING.

That'd show them.

--
Better Than Nothing. Arguably.

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From: dblspace@aol.come-again (David Langlois)

15 billion or nothing!

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