never saw anything in my travels to Eastern Europe that compared to
it. Cops and soldiers everywhere. Fortyish schoolmarm types being
patted down, every third person yanked out of the line and messed
with, just so the people wasting our tax money and time could maintain
political correctitude. Can't let on what they're really looking for,
so they have to be equal opportunity hasselers. For every dark
ragheady type they check out, they have to give the same treatment to
four or five people of other ethnic groups.
And they made just about EVERYBODY take off their shoes. I was glad
for once that mine stunk. Waiting around in my socks, while some guy
from Sudan or something ran a little wand thing around my filthy,
cheap sneakers (checking for nitrogen residue or something) I said to
the other soon to be passengers waiting in line to be subjected to
similar absurdity; "Hey, it could be worse. Good thing that last guy
didn't hide the bomb in his drawers."
Passengers thought it was funny. Security people didn't. But they let
me go to the gate.
this is all fucking ridiculous. And it accomplishes NOTHING.
give the goddam pilots guns (hell, most of them are ex-military,
anyway). Beef up the cockpit door. Establish an ironclad policy that
no one surrenders an aircraft without a fight, put an armed marshall
on there too. And quit pissing away a fortune trying to give people a
false sense of security that comes from getting fucked with, and by
having a bunch of square-jawed clowns with M-16's and glocks standing
around the terminal trying to look nasty in an oddly sad and grotesque
burlesque of the Beefeater Buckingham Guard all show and no blow waste
of dough baloney BULLSHIT.
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From: "LXIX"
"yard man" wrote ...
> had to fly out of Newark the other night.
>
> never saw anything in my travels to Eastern Europe that compared to
> it.
Flying out of BWI last week I had to throw my gas lighter away at the security
check point. No lighers/matches etc.. allowed. I guess they were concerned
someone would try to light a sneakerbomb.
Bunch of fucking retards.
Why?
Because just past security was a nice big >SMOKE SHOP<.
Where I picked up a replacement bic lighter.
Thankfully the last one was empty.
Now that IS stupid.
Oh wait, No it's not. Try Tuscon airport. There they ban
golf clubs.. fucking golf clubs.. and yes, you guessed it.
A golf store past security.
> had to fly out of Newark the other night.
>
>8 snip
I used Edinburgh and Heathrow last week and three weeks before,
various Thai airports inbetween times. Apart from slightly longer
check in times you wouldn't hardly guess that the world is now at
war or something. Heathrow had the usual selection or armed
policemen, although they were more interested in scouting out the
duty free shops and scaring little englanders. Its always amusing
checking out the shock when someone sees a bobby with anything more
powerful than a round ended stick for the first time.
Generally it wouldn't have been any harder to smuggle a weapon onto
the plane than it was before 9/11, although we already had a little
more security than was evident on interrnal flights in the states.
Probably the airlines are just trying to scare the herd into
believing that flying is any safer now than it was before september
last when the truth is it's really no more dangerous.
My favourite security measure was in Thailand, they wrap a piece of
banding around your bag after security check. This may work if you
have a suitcase, it would hardly have stopped me getting to my
corkscrew, bottle opener, and knife tucked in the side pocket of a
backpack though.
Just as well I'm not a psycopathic follower of sum nutty UFO cult
or something huh.
Oh almost forgot, collecting my luggage at Edinburgh I noticed they
have a phone on one wall now. Rather than having to go through the
red channel to give the gubberment some cash for excess duty free
you now have to phone them up. Then you wait around for twenty
minutes until they come get you.
That'll work.
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From: mshotz@aol.comnospam (James T. Rex King of the Monsters)
>Its always amusing
>checking out the shock when someone sees a bobby with anything more
>powerful than a round ended stick for the first time.
I went to visit my Sisiter the other weekend and we watched "Bean". It was the
First time my sister and nephew had seen it. The scene where Bean see's teh US
cops with their guns and pretends to have one himself I had to explain. My
sister and NEphew did not know that British Police "on the beat" do not carry
guns.
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"Just think, the next time I shoot someone I could get arrested!"
Lt. Frank Drebin, "The Naked Gun"
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From: "nu-monet v4.0"
James T. Rex King of the Monsters wrote:
>
> My sister and NEphew did not know that British Police
> "on the beat" do not carry guns.
>
The Home Sec'ry is really driving the cops up the wall.
Despite about 80% not wanting anything to do with guns
on the beat, HE wants them to carry guns. HE also wants
to drastically slash their overtime pay. HE also wants
to create "auxilliaries"--think the crummiest creep on
the *your* block given police powers! (something that
hasn't been done since the national "Chartist Rebellion")
Because the Labor government has established a really
silly anti-gun regime, anyone with a gun is now a KING
in England, and violent gun crime has skyrocketed (this
could be distinguished from gun control, as "stupid" gun
control--how NOT to do sensible gun control.) The solution
to this problem? CAMERAS!
Now, with over 100,000 surveillance cameras in London,
all the criminals have figured out how NOT to commit
crimes on camera. The solution? MORE CAMERAS!
The cops finally said "enough is enough", and refused to
enforce the drug laws: "too damn busy." Which is why
the government has suddenly decided to ignore drug crime.
One senior police commissioner even came out the other day
and expressed sympathy for the Anarchists.
--
"British men are less fertile than hamsters"
--Headline in the British newspaper 'The Independent'
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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)
dode hunched over a computer, typing
feverishly;
thunder crashed, dode laughed madly, then
wrote:
>
>That'll work.
the irony or whatever it is being that
1. it still wouldn't stop a determined group from taking over an
airplane. Grab a stewardess and wrap an extension cord around her
neck and you've got a threat every bit as credible as box knives.
Short of general anesthesia before boarding, I doubt it's possible.
2. It still isn't going to prevent terrorist atrocities. In fact it
seems extremely unlikely to me that terrorists would use a plane a
second time. It's possible, it's an extremely powerful tactic, but it
would make more sense for them simply to go some other route that we
haven't anticipated. Why not take over a nuclear power plant? Poison
a water supply? Get in an old Chevy and drive down the street running
people over?
Programming in Basic causes brain damage.
- Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Sig by Kookie Jar 5.98d http://go.to/generalfrenetics/
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From: dode
Joe Cosby wrote:
>
> 2. It still isn't going to prevent terrorist atrocities. In fact
> it seems extremely unlikely to me that terrorists would use a
> plane a
> second time. It's possible, it's an extremely powerful tactic,
> but it would make more sense for them simply to go some other
> route that we
> haven't anticipated. Why not take over a nuclear power plant?
> Poison
> a water supply? Get in an old Chevy and drive down the street
> running people over?
>
Living just down the road from the grangemouth petrochemical plant
I appreciate this point. To be honest almost any town too small to
have something that would make a usefull bomb could be taken out by
a good sized petrol tanker, or gas carrier.
--
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From: "Fredric L. Rice"
yard man wrote:
> had to fly out of Newark the other night.
> never saw anything in my travels to Eastern Europe that compared to
> it. Cops and soldiers everywhere. Fortyish schoolmarm types being
> patted down, every third person yanked out of the line and messed
> with, just so the people wasting our tax money and time could maintain
> political correctitude. Can't let on what they're really looking for,
> so they have to be equal opportunity hasselers. For every dark
> ragheady type they check out, they have to give the same treatment to
> four or five people of other ethnic groups.
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:56:15 GMT, "Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
>yard man wrote:
>
>Maybe you would like it better living in Iraq.
so, a dick-mouthed spurt of late sixties shit-for-brains LOVE IT OR
LEAVE IT jingo-jism is the best response you can come up with when
someone laments the increasingly repressive conditions in the country?
the nearly endless reserves of simple-minded sheep like yourself are
the main reason that the USA may well soon be little different from
places like Iraq.
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From: John Starrett
yard man wrote:
>
>
> so, a dick-mouthed spurt of late sixties shit-for-brains LOVE IT OR
> LEAVE IT jingo-jism is the best response you can come up with when
> someone laments the increasingly repressive conditions in the country?
>
> the nearly endless reserves of simple-minded sheep like yourself are
> the main reason that the USA may well soon be little different from
> places like Iraq.
Hear Hear! Our own attorney general has been quoted saying
that this country should be a Christian nation and ruled by
Christians. Here is a man in a position of power who wants
to establish a fundamentalist theocracy right here. Don't
think it couldn't happen.
John Starrett
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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang"
In article <3C975978.DC8DD00F@carbon.cudenver.edu>, John Starrett wrote:
>
> Hear Hear! Our own attorney general has been quoted saying
> that this country should be a Christian nation and ruled by
> Christians. Here is a man in a position of power who wants
> to establish a fundamentalist theocracy right here. Don't
> think it couldn't happen.
I thought it already DID, except that they left the liquor and titty
industries more or less in place.
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Resurrected
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From: John Starrett
"Rev. Ivan Stang" wrote:
>
> I thought it already DID, except that they left the liquor and titty
> industries more or less in place.
More or less, yes. I am going to a Christian strip club this
week with my friend and knock back a few Virgin Marys. I
hear they try to rip you off with their $25 sparkling grape
juice though.