Nobody gets left behind (a weird meditation on fellowship)

Date: Mon, Apr 1, 2002 4:52 PM

From: plushtoi@my-deja.com (Olu Dada, Queen of Squirls)

By psychologically destroying people, or by sitting by
passively though we know that they are drowning, or by
siding with the violators and claiming it was their own
error that brought this upon them, and then leaving
them to rot in the streets, rot in jail, or to live in
self-exile in whatever hiding place they can find while
they heal, we are sowing the seeds of our own destruction.

We need everyone.

To dehumanize anyone is to dehumanize everyone.

Nobody is unworthy to participate, and yet we as a people
divide and reject. What is disowned will have its
revenge. Divisions based on fear and distaste, or on
selfishness and exclusiveness, do create an underclass
who knows your weaknesses better than you do. It is
only beginning. Split-off parts become a channel for
corruption.

Actions based on fear invite nightmares to come true,
because what you will not look at has the drop on you.

Loving your family is not enough. Loving your friends
is not enough. Loving your community is not enough.
Love the people outside the walls, love the people who
have nothing you want and everything you don't. As
it has always been taught, and as it has never sunk
in, we all have gifts each of which is important to
everyone. Gifts unshared pervert themselves, and
will create a self-destructive fascination in you.
Behold the erotic power of the unhealed.

If you owned your power, perhaps you feel that you
could no longer be excused for your mistakes. Owned
or not it is there. Would you like someone else to
make mistakes with the force you put down and are
afraid to pick up? No avatar, not the one you vote
for, not your favorite teacher, nor your favorite
writer, nor the charismatic lover can save you from
irresponsible shirking of the tool of creation and
destruction that was entrusted to you at birth. If
it is used to destroy, you are the one who used it.
How much wiser do you think these tricksters you
hand the reins to are than you yourself?

As powerful as a god, you hold the keys to life and
death. In pain and crucified in the changeful
world we all forget for a time both this fact and
why we came. Assume that you are on a mission,
that all the world is secretly collaborating with
you. Learn to discover some notion of your ideal
of beauty everywhere you look. The unspeaking
world around you is teeming with life, cheering
you on. Go deeper than what you fear might be
true about you. Can an atom get dirty? You are
transformed in an instant to the eternal self when
you remember what you love and forget about
resentful longing caused by the illusion of
division.

I can make all this noise, but only you can save us.
Only by your actions, only by your consciousness;
it is up to you, and everything can change in an
instant. You yourself *are* the beautiful,
powerful, clever being you have up to now been
content to follow or to envy. You are also the
broken-down hobo, the cripple, the dying person,
the accused. Heaven and hell lie within you to
be claimed and reconciled.

No one hero can redeem us anymore. We must all work
together as friends and as allies. Nobody is too old,
too young, too male or female, too gay or straight,
nobody is the wrong color, the wrong size, has a
past that cannot be excused. Nobody is too rich
or too poor, too smart or too uneducated. Nobody
is too spoiled. Nobody is human garbage.

On this mission, no one will be left behind.

Layo

Remember to love your enemies, just in case your
friends turn out to be jerks

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From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

> We need everyone.

Oh, crapola. There are tons of people out there that Darwin
is *itching* to exterminate, and only the twisted and bizarre
religion known as Xtianity and people who have soft-boiled
brains seek to preserve.

1) Peasants who live in the 4th Century, and insist on keeping
their stupid and arcane superstitions, violences and bigotries,
but DEMAND to be treated with respect and consideration by the
more liberal, developed nations. "We want SHARIA! Now give us
MONEY!"

2) Peasants who are even *more* primitive, who say it is their
RIGHT to farm the only good land in their nation with sticks
when 20 times their numbers starve in the cities. "It was good
enough for our Aztec forefathers, it is good enough for Mexico!"

3) Peasants who hate and fear science and technology because
they just don't get it. "'taint bacterias that make you sick,
it's not prayin' hard enuf, an' damn if ahm gonna let my little
ones get in-jected with no anti-god poisons when the good lord
Jesus will keep them well from rattlesnake bites!"

Eugenics isn't just a good idea, IT'S THE LAW!

--
"Nature abhors a peasant." -- nu-monet
***********
"...Human samples are of prime importance, and if
anybody knows how to do a good job of body snatching,
they will really be serving their country..."

--AEC Commissioner Willard Libby
***********
"The guarding of freedom that God grants is
the noble charge of the Department of Justice."

--Attorney General John Ashcroft
***********
"Schools are functionally prisons. Urinalysis
is a remedy when there is evidence of drug use
and a deterrent when there is no such evidence."

--Supreme Court Chief Justice Rehnquist

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From: catherine yronwode <cat@luckymojo.com>

> Eugenics isn't just a good idea, IT'S THE LAW!

Please stop trolling alt.magick

Thank you.

cat yronwode

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From: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu>

Please stop crossposting to alt.slack, then. =)

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From: Raoul X <xemblinosky@bungmunch.edu>

And don't you dare crosspost this to alt.fan.karl-malden.nose

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From: bob <thanatos@coldmail.nu>

>And don't you dare crosspost this to alt.fan.karl-malden.nose

Cause that'd be really rude.

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From: Raoul X <xemblinosky@bungmunch.edu>

I hate people when they're not polite.

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From: queenie@hermajesty.com (The Queen of Cans and Jars)

> I hate people when they're not polite.

i ain't got time for that now.

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From: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu>

> And don't you dare crosspost this to alt.fan.karl-malden.nose

Aw, NOW yer pissin' me OFF!!!!1!

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From: queenie@hermajesty.com (The Queen of Cans and Jars)

i wouldn't dream of crossposting this to alt.cats.world.domination

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From: Gangsta Chicken <SNUHjasonzc@snuh.comYAHOO>

Only a complete madman would crosspost this to alt.folklore.urban

Note to Bellsouth News Admins: THIS IS A CHARTERLESS ALT GROUP. And my
DSL bill pays your salary.

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From: "Alliekatt" <alleykatzen@hotmail.com>

> Please stop trolling alt.magick
>
> Thank you.
>
> cat yronwode

Beeyotch, ain't no one in charge of no Usenet group no matter how many bogus
FAQs and shite bylaws you pretend-thunderbolt throwers spooge into Google.
What are you going to do, throw magick voodoo bolts at SubGeniuses for
responding to a ludicrous love-the-universe troll who crossposted to OUR ng?
Posting here with that fluffybunny drek is just as much trolling, but the
fluffy bunnies don't know that the fish here are armed with highly ironic
harpoons. Put your troll harping where the sun don't shine, for even the
ELDER gods fear the snap of the Sacred Jadedness of SubGenii. We ARE the
punchline behind Ragnarok, you Pagan Pustulii, no matter how many twisters
get called up on Brushwood to blow our asses away. Two and counting, and
y'all's aim sucks poopy doo-doo.

alliekatt

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From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

>Beeyotch,

What she said.

Also, ya misspelled "Magic" ya twit.

Plus, yer coven leader dresses ya funny.

And I bet you couldn't bend a spoon even after
watchin' the video.

If ya tell someone not to crosspost, ya get told
not to crosspost yerself a buncha times back!

Yer rubber *and* glue. Poo-poo pee do!

--
"Why don't you smegging-well smeg off, you
annoying little smeggy smegging smegger!"
--Rimmer, from "Red Dwarf"

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From: "Bud" <budec@qwest.net>

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

Round 1
ALT.SLACK _VS_ ALT.MAGICK

Round 2
Winner of Round 1 _VS_ ALT.ANGST

I want a good clean fight and no goatcx links. Come out swinging.

Regards,
Bud

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From: "palimpsest" <angkorw@temple.com.plex>

you've been eclipsed-
now be qwiet!

wayne 'imp' wayne

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From: 'FANG' <schlimazel@eudoramail.com>

>"palimpsest"

Hey, I've been trying to think of that word for a couple of
weeks now. Thanks!

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From: "palimpsest" <angkorw@temple.com.plex>

It's my name! treat it with respect! Or not! Or kill Bob!
Or smoke yer momma's toenail clippings!
Or or or or yer boat, gently down the palimpsestuous
plane!

'imp'

p.s. Are you fang in the tooth or Fang in Gabon?
If yer Fang in Gabon, hey, I could sure use a little
Bwiti-weedy rite about now!

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From: Arbane the Terrible <arbane@attbi.com>

> cat yronwode

The same cat yronwode who worked for Eclipse Comics?

I liked their stuff...

--
"Remember, the plural of 'moron' is 'focus group'."
-- James A. Wolf

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From: "palimpsest" <angkorw@temple.com.plex>

> I liked their stuff...

Don't worry, it wasn't her fault!

'imp'

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From: "'David A.H. Perry'" <thedavid@shell.rawbw.com>

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, nu-monet v4.0 wrote:

> 1) Peasants who live in the 4th Century, and insist on keeping
> their stupid and arcane superstitions, violences and bigotries,
> but DEMAND to be treated with respect and consideration by the
> more liberal, developed nations. "We want SHARIA! Now give us
> MONEY!"

If you mean the 4th century A.D., you're way to early for Sharia.

Try looking shit up.

The

--
"You're such a wonderful person, but you got problems." -David Bowie

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From: exquisite_carrion@hotmail.com (Nothing)

> To dehumanize anyone is to dehumanize everyone.

Fortune cookies taste good.

> Loving your family is not enough. Loving your friends
> is not enough. Loving your community is not enough.
> Love the people outside the walls, love the people who
> have nothing you want and everything you don't.

What sort of value does this place on love?

> Gifts unshared pervert themselves, and
> will create a self-destructive fascination in you.

I keep on thinking of Fight Club...self-destruction is self-elevation.

> You yourself *are* the beautiful,
> powerful, clever being you have up to now been
> content to follow or to envy. You are also the
> broken-down hobo, the cripple, the dying person,
> the accused. Heaven and hell lie within you to
> be claimed and reconciled.

You give people too much credit. Most people today are passive,
apathetic pseudo-stoics. The world sucks; we owe it nothing.

> Nobody is human garbage.

I want to be worthless!

--Nothing

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From: The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>

> I want to be worthless!

That should present few difficulties...

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From: thefridayjones@hotmail.com (Friday Jones)

> We need everyone.

"We" might, but "me" does not.

---

"I am going to jump into my grave laughing because the
knowledge that I have the deaths of millions of people
on my conscience is a source of extraordinary
satisfaction to me."
-- Adolf Eichmann

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From: bob <thanatos@coldmail.nu>

Wisliceny wasn't an Eichmann fan as Eichmann had sorta run over him on
his way to the top. Aren't there enough verified Eichmann quotes out
there? Why use hearsay?

bob
-he wasn't a very nice guy ya know

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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

>-he wasn't a very nice guy ya know

golly.

You think?

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

"The Shrink asks me what the American flag means to me.
I tell him, "soak it in heroin Doc, and I'll suck it."
The shrink tells me I have a bad attitude. Tells
me to get right with Jesus.
Then with tears running down their fink faces, the Do-rights
as one man bellow out the Star Spangled banner."

- William S. Burroughs

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From: bob <thanatos@coldmail.nu>

>>-he wasn't a very nice guy ya know
>
>golly.
>
>You think?

yup, I don't think he was a very nice man

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From: "Chas. M. Bee" <c-bee1@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

> yup, I don't think he was a very nice man

Hey, it's just his way.

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From: J E Thomas <j2thomas@swbell.net>

> yup, I don't think he was a very nice man

Not only that, he picked the losing side.

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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

So, you consider yourself -opposed- to genocide, then?

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

Jesus has returned, with a rusty coat hanger
- The Rev. Ivan Stang

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From: bob <thanatos@coldmail.nu>

>So, you consider yourself -opposed- to genocide, then?

Why do you ask?

How did you move from Eichmann's character to genocide?

Are you -for- genocide?

Are you somehow trying to form unholy alliances with witless usenet
personas?

Do you part your hair in the middle, on the left side, or on the right
side.

Do you have a girlfriend? If so, is she cute? If so, what's her email
address?

Would you have been a target (one Jewish grandparent) if you lived in
Germany 60 years ago?

Do you have ancestors (not so far in the past) that were herded onto
reservations in this here USA?

How can one be -for- genocide?

bob
- I'd rather be sleeping

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From: lyonderboy666@hotmail.com (Anti Pope Lupus of SI)

> >-he wasn't a very nice guy ya know
>
> golly.
> You think?
>
> "The Shrink asks me what the American flag means to me.
> I tell him, "soak it in heroin Doc, and I'll suck it."
> The shrink tells me I have a bad attitude. Tells
> me to get right with Jesus.
> Then with tears running down their fink faces, the Do-rights
> as one man bellow out the Star Spangled banner."
>
> - William S. Burroughs

Yeah, and neither was William Burroughs!

-APLY

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From: "Martin Swain" <martin.swain@hotmail.com>

Burroughs was an artist. He contributed to the wealth
of our culture on a scale few of us can ever
approach (be honest now). If you think you can
compare him to a nazi mass murderer then you
really need to get your head on facing frontwards.

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From: queenie@hermajesty.com (The Queen of Cans and Jars)

> Burroughs was an artist. He contributed to the wealth of our culture on a
> scale few of us can ever approach (be honest now).

is that proof that he was a nice guy?

> If you think you can compare him to a nazi mass murderer then you really
> need to get your head on facing frontwards.

you don't read for context much, do you?

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From: "palimpsest" <angkorw@temple.com.plex>

Speak fer yerself...

and give thanx to Gysin!
Burroughs did and rightly-so.

> is that proof that he was a nice guy?

Oh, he was a real cut-up!

and he either had sh!tty aim or was a dead-perfect shot.
Depends on what he was shooting and where and at what.
(Collapsed veins factored at times.)

WSB could drop the dime and mooch the nickel better than
any Gin-burger, Bowler, Ker-wack, or Hunk-a-pork.
His beat meat manifesto's a value meal, and not just barely.

> > If you think you can compare him to a nazi mass murderer then you really
> > need to get your head on facing frontwards.

Owl remember that one.

'imp'

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From: thefridayjones@hotmail.com (Friday Jones)

> Wisliceny wasn't an Eichmann fan as Eichmann had sorta run over him on
> his way to the top. Aren't there enough verified Eichmann quotes out
> there? Why use hearsay?

Because it's one of those quotes where you read it and say "DAMN! I
wish I'd said that!"

But since I doth offend, here are some more appropriate .sigs:

HAPPY PASSOVER ... and don't forget to nail a baby's foreskin to your
door, to keep God away.
- Reverend Ivan Stang

Israel Justice Minister Yossi Beilin, on Israeli troops shooting at
protestors: "A person playing with fire should not yell when he gets
burned."

All I ask of Thee, Lord
is to be a drinker and fornicator
an unbeliever and a sodomite
and then to die.
- Claude de Chauvigny

"The only way to stop a terrorist is to cut his head off."
-- James Woods

"To feel strong, to walk amongst humans with a tremendous feeling of
confidence and superiority is not at all wrong. " - Fred Hatfield

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From: dyskolos <dyskolos@menander.org>

> Remember to love your enemies, just in case your
> friends turn out to be jerks

I think you'll find that things like love and empathy are not
considered positive values on usenet. Try being snide, sarcastic and
prejudiced. THESE flies LOVE vinegar and pride themselves on being
able to rationalize their dead souls.

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From: The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>

> I think you'll find that things like love and empathy are not
> considered positive values on usenet. Try being snide, sarcastic and
> prejudiced. THESE flies LOVE vinegar and pride themselves on being
> able to rationalize their dead souls.

Now I wonder why that would be?

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From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

You catch more flies with vinegar then you do with
saccharine. Same applies to hummingbirds. However,
if you start to slowly add medium-chain carbohydrates
to their water, eventually you get really buff
hummingbirds--it's like they're eating steak every
meal!

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From: "RetardeD" <jehrl7@yahoo.com>

Yeah. Especially we love jerks doing full-quote posting.

- RetardeD -

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From: bob <thanatos@coldmail.nu>

>Yeah. Especially we love jerks doing full-quote posting.
>
> - RetardeD -
>
cool

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From: "Martin Swain" <martin.swain@hotmail.com>

Usenet does not exist. It is a consensual construct, a reflection
of the space that exists inside the heads of the people who use it.

Fact is most people are jerks. Just be glad you *have* usenet,
a forum where people are much less gaurded due to anonymity,
and which also presents a vast sample. Without that how else
could you learn how generally pathetic people are?

Cheers,

Martin

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From: bob <thanatos@coldmail.nu>

>Without that how else could you learn how generally pathetic people are?

Some of our identites are well known.

Things are a bit glum at work lately. I put everyone's favorite Munch
pic on the company webpage with the caption "What, me worry".

I sent the URL to my boss.

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From: "Asmod" <asm0d@nospam.newsfeeds.com>

> Fact is most people are jerks.

No, ALL people simply do whatever they think is in their own best interest.
Since that need usually conflicts with our own, we consider them enemies.
We can't read minds, so we can't distinguish a genuine "selfless act of
kindness" (if one has ever occurred) from someone merely acting selfless for
their own reasons. The more prominently a person is fulfilling their needs,
then more reasons we make up to dislike them.

Except for twentysomthing IT personnel with a soul patch and a knit ski cap
pulled down to their eyebrows. Those guys are just jerks.

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>

> Hey, what's past is past. I'm willing to forgive a lot to
> the man who gave us both "Tarzan" and "Conan." Too bad
> they never made any of his 'Mars' novels into movies.

AHAHAHA!! Yer so stuped, yuo thoaught William Rice Burroughs Jr. drew
Conan! Everybody knows E-Bob Howards drew Conan! William Rice Burroughs
drew "Tarzan, The Naked Ape" and "He-Men from Mars, Jane From Venus."

My only complaint about the loveburger rant that started this thread is
that, like all such rants, it's a bit short on specifics. And asking ME
to love my enemy is a bit much. That ranter has evidently not
encountered my enemies. In fact, I doubt if that author would be able
to STOMACH my FRIENDS, much less love my enemies. That stuff always
sounds good on paper. If you're a vapid shallow Pink. To me it's just
more lofty frippery that's basically a jack-off for whoever wrote it.
They're thinking they're inspiring people to "do the right thing," but
I suspect if anybody gets inspired, it's the wrong people.

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From: "RetardeD" <jehrl7@yahoo.com>

> AHAHAHA!! Yer so stuped, yuo thoaught William Rice Burroughs Jr. drew
> Conan! Everybody knows E-Bob Howards drew Conan! William Rice Burroughs
> drew "Tarzan, The Naked Ape" and "He-Men from Mars, Jane From Venus."
>

AHAHAHA!! Yer so stuped, yuo thoaught William Burroughs drew Tarzan!
Everybody knows that was Edgar Rice Burroughs!

The boy-fucking, drug-crazed artist on discussion is William S. Burroughs.

Spare us your dumbbrained halfwit flames, you subgenius!

- RetardeD -

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From: Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>

HEE! Man, ya fowlkes are so DUMM. Edgar Rice Burroughs coudn't ever
EVER draw! He had to rite WURDS! Ya DUMMASS!

Her Ladyship Lilith

--
\m/ -=8=- http://lilith.foolspress.com/ -=8=- \m/

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From: "palimpsest" <angkorw@temple.com.plex>

frazetta magenta tafetta placenta

makin love to a monkey with wesley snipes on my pipes,

'imp'

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From: "nu-monet v4.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Don't called me stoopid, you stroupid!
Your hear STOOPID STOPED STOOPED!!!
An' your diety dresses you funny!
An' your mother wore shoes!

--
"That certainly made me feel normal."
--Reverend Ivan Stang

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From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)

>Sorry...not to be nit-picky but it's Robert E. (Ervin) Howard who was the
>Conan author...And it's Edgar Rice Burroughs for Tarzan and the John Carter
>of Mars books...thx.

You're mistaken.

It was Dr. Seuss.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

>does this mean that if there was no wine in france (and no consommers
>of) the graet revolution could have be done since a long time ?

No, if there were no wine in france you'd be belgium.

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