From: "NeuroManson" <1llabruf@tsewq.ten>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2002
Yep, Dave Thomas of Wendys died today...
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From: Arbane the Terrible
Heart disease?
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From: Geoff Bronner
Actually, doesn't that mean one MORE since he won't be eating it?
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Arbane the Terrible wrote:
>
> Heart disease?
I seriously doubt whether anybody who knows what goes
into those things _ever_ actuallys eats the shit.
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From: "Ellis Dee"
"Arbane the Terrible"
> Heart disease?
Thomas died around midnight at his home in Florida, the company said
Tuesday.
Thomas had been undergoing dialysis for a kidney problem since early 2001,
and had quadruple heart bypass surgery in December 1996.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/business/DailyNews/Wendys_Thomas_020108.h
tml
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From: modemac@modemac.com (Modemac)
Arbane the Terrible
> Heart disease?
Liver cancer. Still, if there's one thing that can be said about Dave
starring in those Wendy's commercials, it's this: He certainly
portrayed the typical Wendy's customer. He was an overweight aging
bald guy, instead of the beefcake models usually used in commercials.
How many beer commercials do you see starring guys with beer bellies?
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From: Geoff Bronner
In article
Ellis Dee
>
> Thomas died around midnight at his home in Florida, the company said
> Tuesday.
> Thomas had been undergoing dialysis for a kidney problem since early 2001,
> and had quadruple heart bypass surgery in December 1996.
Interesting.... CNN says he died of liver cancer.
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From: kconvery@ioma.com (The Bishop)
Arbane the Terrible
>
> Heart disease?
Yeah, his heart gave out when he was subjected to one more
self-righteous "vegan" diatribe than his poor old ticker could take.
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From: Kevan
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 15:38:28 GMT, "NeuroManson" <1llabruf@tsewq.ten> from AT&T
Broadband wrote:
>Yep, Dave Thomas of Wendys died today...
He wa a fat pig bloated with his own product who shilled cancer-causing,
hormone-infused, artifically-flavored yucky MEAT on the boob tube to fat,
bloated Americans. He was one of the reasons our country has the most obese
population in the world. I presume Allikatt will want to fellate his corpse
in
gratitude, but, I'm glad he's gone. I hope his empire crumbles, too.
"Wendy's lost its founder and premier pitchman when Thomas, 69, died of liver
cancer early Tuesday at his home in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He had been undergoing
kidney dialysis for nearly a year and had quadruple heart bypass surgery in
1996."
Yeah, I'm sure his diet had nothing to do with all of that. Continue shopping.
avoid panic buying.
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All of life is a blur of Republicans and meat! 6:15:25 PM 8 January 2002
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From: Reverend DJ Epoch
Kevan wrote:
>
>
> He wa a fat pig bloated with his own product who shilled cancer-causing,
> hormone-infused, artifically-flavored yucky MEAT on the boob tube to fat,
> bloated Americans. He was one of the reasons our country has the most obese
> population in the world. I presume Allikatt will want to fellate his corpse
in
> gratitude, but, I'm glad he's gone. I hope his empire crumbles, too.
>
> "Wendy's lost its founder and premier pitchman when Thomas, 69, died of liver
> cancer early Tuesday at his home in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He had been undergoing
> kidney dialysis for nearly a year and had quadruple heart bypass surgery in
> 1996."
>
> Yeah, I'm sure his diet had nothing to do with all of that. Continue shopping.
> avoid panic buying.
You have once again shown what a useless festering puss-filled pile of
elephant dung you really are. You knew absolutely nothing about the man
yet feel compelled to trash him just because he ran a fast-food
franchise.
I had the opportunity to actually meet Dave Thomas when Wendy's was
based out of Atlanta and had their corporate aircraft based at Peachtree
DeKalb airport where I used to work while in college. Dave was as
unassuming and genuine in person as he appeared on TV, and always
treated everyone he met with respect. (NOT your average corporate
pirahna.) He began the chain with a couple of small fast food
restaurants he actually named after his daughter. He found a business
formula BASED ON SERVING THE CUSTOMER that worked and allowed him to
prosper.
He was also very community oriented and donated to many different
charities. He really believed that with success came an obligation to
give back to the community. I understand he was especially generous to
the Red Cross and American Cancer Society. And he would not build a
restaurant in an area where the community felt it would be a detriment.
Also, for your further education, Mister "I hope his empire crumbles",
he was one fo the first to introduce a decent salad bar into the fast
food concept, trying to assist those who wanted a healthier diet. The
concept lasted about 4 years when it was dropped DUE TO A LACK OF
INTEREST BY THE PUBLIC. You can try and blame him all you want, the true
reason for the Great American Bloat lies in the fact that Joe
Couchpotato doesn't want to exercise or eat responsibly much anymore
until he becomes as wide as he is tall and needs new plumbing around his
heart. Some of Wendy's better selling menu items are in fact side
salads, baked potatoes with low-fat butter and sour cream if requested
and a baked chicken sandwich. (A real piece of chicken breast, not one
of those pressed processed artificial breat patties made from pieces
parts.)
Now sit down, yank your foot out of your mouth, stuff an entire Caesar
side salad in it SIDEWAYS WITH CROUTONS, AND *SHUT THE FUCK UP* YOU
VACUOUS MENTAL MIDGET.
--
Rev. DJ Epoch
"This Church is so big on titties that it's almost mandatory for all our
front doors to have knockers." - Paul E. Jamison
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From: Kevan
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:41:10 -0500, Reverend DJ Epoch
The Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Motion wrote:
>I had the opportunity to actually meet Dave Thomas when Wendy's was
>based out of Atlanta and had their corporate aircraft based at Peachtree
>DeKalb airport where I used to work while in college. Dave was as
>unassuming and genuine in person as he appeared on TV, and always
>treated everyone he met with respect. (NOT your average corporate
>pirahna.) He began the chain with a couple of small fast food
>restaurants he actually named after his daughter. He found a business
>formula BASED ON SERVING THE CUSTOMER that worked and allowed him to
>prosper.
So what if he was a nice guy on the surface of things? He still sold poison
to
people and used advertising to persuade them it wasn't poison at all, but food.
And I'm sure his ads fairly portrayed his happy, smiling workers; oh, they
aren't exploited wage slaves at all. They should be happy to have ANY job and
take whatever CORPORATE FAT CAT DAVE deigned to give them.
From wendys.com:
Dave was
the heart and soul of Wendy's, but
we have
embraced his culture as our own.
More like his death food culture has been forced on America by corporate
advertising. And despite your attempt to cover up the "healthiness" of the
wendy's menu by blaming it on the public, look at this:
Wendys
Big Bacon Classic, 282 grams, 580
Calories,
270 Calories from Fat, 30 grams of
Fat, 12
grams of Saturated Fat, 100 mg. of
Cholesterol,
1460 mg. of Sodium, 46 grams of
Carbohydrates,
3 grams of Fiber, 11 grams of
Sugar,
34 grams of Protein.
That's a recipe for heart attack, high blood pressure, clogged arteries, cancer,
and any other host of ills. People wouldn't buy it if they knew just what it
did
to them, but al those glorious ads on teevee make sure they never know. Sure,
it's sometimes legal to sell things to people that might kill or harm them,
but
is it right to cover up the fact that it's harmful?
Wendy's at one time advertised a vegetarian menu that included a Fresh Stuffed
Veggie Pita, a Plain Baked Potato and a Diet Soft Drink or Iced Tea. However,
the two food items contained animal products.
Further, despite fast food industry moves for better treatment of animals,
Wendy's dragged it's feet and would only conform to minimal suggested
non-cruelty standards after a PETA campaign shamed them into it. One of those
minimal standards is that the animals should actually be dead before processing
begins.
Clara Peller asked us, "Where's the Beef?" It's at Wendy's, we learned. Yet
we
weren't told that the beef came from land cleared of rain forest.
Yeah, Dave Thomas is dead. Long live Dave Thomas. Pardon me for not cheering.
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From: "Paul E. Jamison"
Reverend DJ Epoch wrote:
> Kevan wrote:
>
> You have once again shown what a useless festering puss-filled pile of
> elephant dung you really are. You knew absolutely nothing about the man
> yet feel compelled to trash him just because he ran a fast-food
> franchise.
>
Consider the source, Rev.
>
> I had the opportunity to actually meet Dave Thomas when Wendy's was
> based out of Atlanta and had their corporate aircraft based at Peachtree
> DeKalb airport where I used to work while in college. Dave was as
> unassuming and genuine in person as he appeared on TV, and always
> treated everyone he met with respect. (NOT your average corporate
> pirahna.) He began the chain with a couple of small fast food
> restaurants he actually named after his daughter. He found a business
> formula BASED ON SERVING THE CUSTOMER that worked and allowed him to
> prosper.
>
> He was also very community oriented and donated to many different
> charities. He really believed that with success came an obligation to
> give back to the community. I understand he was especially generous to
> the Red Cross and American Cancer Society. And he would not build a
> restaurant in an area where the community felt it would be a detriment.
>
> Also, for your further education, Mister "I hope his empire crumbles",
> he was one fo the first to introduce a decent salad bar into the fast
> food concept, trying to assist those who wanted a healthier diet. The
> concept lasted about 4 years when it was dropped DUE TO A LACK OF
> INTEREST BY THE PUBLIC. You can try and blame him all you want, the true
> reason for the Great American Bloat lies in the fact that Joe
> Couchpotato doesn't want to exercise or eat responsibly much anymore
> until he becomes as wide as he is tall and needs new plumbing around his
> heart. Some of Wendy's better selling menu items are in fact side
> salads, baked potatoes with low-fat butter and sour cream if requested
> and a baked chicken sandwich. (A real piece of chicken breast, not one
> of those pressed processed artificial breat patties made from pieces
> parts.)
>
> Now sit down, yank your foot out of your mouth, stuff an entire Caesar
> side salad in it SIDEWAYS WITH CROUTONS, AND *SHUT THE FUCK UP* YOU
> VACUOUS MENTAL MIDGET.
>
I now feel it my duty to go have dinner at Wendy's in
Dave's memory. I'd say "This if for YOU, Ke-Van!",
but my mouth will be full.
Paul E. Jamison
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From: Reverend DJ Epoch
Kornhoolio wrote:
>
>
> So what if he was a nice guy on the surface of things? He still sold poison
to
> people and used advertising to persuade them it wasn't poison at all, but
food.
> And I'm sure his ads fairly portrayed his happy, smiling workers; oh, they
> aren't exploited wage slaves at all. They should be happy to have ANY job
and
> take whatever CORPORATE FAT CAT DAVE deigned to give them.
>
> From wendys.com:
> Dave
was the heart and soul of Wendy's, but
> we have
embraced his culture as our own.
>
> More like his death food culture has been forced on America by corporate
> advertising. And despite your attempt to cover up the "healthiness" of the
> wendy's menu by blaming it on the public, look at this:
>
> Wendys
Big Bacon Classic, 282 grams, 580
> Calories,
270 Calories from Fat, 30 grams of
> Fat,
12 grams of Saturated Fat, 100 mg. of
> Cholesterol,
1460 mg. of Sodium, 46 grams of
> Carbohydrates,
3 grams of Fiber, 11 grams of
> Sugar,
34 grams of Protein.
>
> That's a recipe for heart attack, high blood pressure, clogged arteries, cancer,
> and any other host of ills. People wouldn't buy it if they knew just what
it did
> to them, but al those glorious ads on teevee make sure they never know. Sure,
> it's sometimes legal to sell things to people that might kill or harm them,
but
> is it right to cover up the fact that it's harmful?
Hey bubba, if you're gonna pick and choose that which you want to
include from the
web site, so can I. Here's an excerpt:
"To many, Dave often seemed larger than life. His position as our
advertising
spokesperson earned him a celebrity status with which he was never
completely
comfortable. He always reminded us that he was "just a hamburger cook."
Being
a very humble man, Dave found a way to use his visibility to give back
to the
community, especially to generate awareness for the cause of adoption.
The Dave
Thomas Foundation for Adoption was created by Dave to help find homes
for
children in foster care. Because of his and the foundation's work,
thousands
of foster children now have "forever families". (Read more about the
Foundation
at their website: davethomasfoundationforadoption.org.)"
Guess what hubert? All their menu items are posted in the store in plain
view with
nutritional information, as well as available handouts. Again, if the
person CHOOSES
to be informed the information is readily available, not "covered up".
Who's covering up menu healthiness? They have healthy items, and they
have
not-so-healthy items. Again it's the PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE. and it IS
the public's fault. It's the fault of the individual that chooses to
load
up his system with carbos and cholesterols and fats. EACH PERSON HAS A
RESPONSABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. It's their own body fer
crying
out loud. You believe everything corporate America advertises?
It's a capitalist business moron. They sell what the people want! You
don't
like the choice, GO SOMEFUCKINGWHERE ELSE!
Sorry you were so jealous of CORPORATE FAT CAT DAVE. He took a business
he
liked and MADE MONEY DOING IT! And still remained a decent guy through
it
all. Sounds like slack to me. It may not be Nirvana, but it gave plenty
of
people a place to work. Like any business, it has it's good managers and
bad.
But as far as capitalist institutions go, it's not near as bad as the
Taco
Chihuahua/KFChickenshit/PizzaGlorp sweatshop conglomerate. THAT is
TRUELY
the "Evil Empire".
>
> Wendy's at one time advertised a vegetarian menu that included a Fresh Stuffed
> Veggie Pita, a Plain Baked Potato and a Diet Soft Drink or Iced Tea. However,
> the two food items contained animal products.
Sources, please?
>
> Further, despite fast food industry moves for better treatment of animals,
> Wendy's dragged it's feet and would only conform to minimal suggested
> non-cruelty standards after a PETA campaign shamed them into it. One of those
> minimal standards is that the animals should actually be dead before processing
> begins.
Yeah, and the PETA morons thought they'd save deer by puttig orange
vests on them
to keep hunters from shooting them. GUESS WHAT??!? MAKES THEM A HELL OF
A LOT
EASIER TO SPOT! Buncha radical loonies. I'm an animal lover myself, but
at
least I'm not rabid about it.
>
> Clara Peller asked us, "Where's the Beef?" It's at Wendy's, we learned. Yet
we
> weren't told that the beef came from land cleared of rain forest.
Again, sources please?
>
> Yeah, Dave Thomas is dead. Long live Dave Thomas. Pardon me for not cheering.
Again, another excerpt from the web site:
"The family has requested that in lieu of flowers, donations be made to
:
Dave Thomas Foundation for Adoption
P.O. Box 7164
Dublin, OH 43017
Arthur G. James Cancer Hospital & Richard J. Solove
Research Institute
The Ohio State University
300 W. 10th Avenue
Columbus, OH 43210
The Dave Thomas Family Primary Care Center at Children's Hospital
700 Children's Drive
Columbus, OH 43205"
I'd say he was a hell of a lot more of a humanitarian than you'll ever
be in your
lifetime.
--
Rev. DJ Epoch
"This Church is so big on titties that it's almost mandatory for all our
front doors to have knockers." - Paul E. Jamison
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From: Kevan
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 23:26:02 -0500, Reverend DJ Epoch
The Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Motion wrote:
>I'd say he was a hell of a lot more of a humanitarian than you'll ever
>be in your
>lifetime.
Oh, so his giving to charity excuses the fact that he was a death merchant.
Yeah, he sold all those artery-clogging, cancer-causing, heart attack inducing
triple-bacon cheeseburgers and bio-engineered "potatoes" deep fried in lard,
impacting the colons of anyone stupid enough to eat there, but he gave to
charity, so THAT MKAES IT OK. Yeah, he bought meat processed from still living
cattle that had been grown on cleared rain forest land, but he donated to
charity, so THAT MAKES IT OK! Yeah, Dave Thomas, real humanitarian. NOT. If
he
were a real humanitarian, he wouldn't have started a death food chain with over
6,000 restaurants today. Suck THAT down with your Frosty, there, bubba. Your
capitalist hero earned his profit from the death and illness he marketed as
food. That Wendy's shit, and all that fast food crap, ought to have health
warnings on the packaging just like cigarettes. You'll NEVER catch me eating
that garbage.
And what the hell do you know of my charitable giving, anyway? Not a damn thing,
is what. It's true I'll probably never have the gazillions of dollars like
super-capitalist chief exploitation officer Dave did, but that doesn't make
me
any less a humanitarian:
Now Jesus
sat opposite the treasury and saw
how the
people put money into the treasury.
And many
who were rich put in much. Then one
poor widow
came and threw in two mites, which
make a
quadrans. So He called His disciples
to Himself
and said to them, "Assuredly, I
say to
you that this poor widow has put in
more than
all those who have given to the
treasury;
for they all put in out of their
abundance,
but she out of her poverty put in
all that
she had, her whole livelihood.
Mark, 12:41-44
(NKJV)
So FUCK YOU!
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From: Kevan
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 21:42:13 -0800, "Paul E. Jamison"
Earthlink wrote:
>I now feel it my duty to go have dinner at Wendy's in
>Dave's memory. I'd say "This if for YOU, Ke-Van!",
>but my mouth will be full.
Have a few of these:
Wendys
Big Bacon Classic, 282 grams, 580
Calories,
270 Calories from Fat, 30 grams of
Fat, 12
grams of Saturated Fat, 100 mg. of
Cholesterol,
1460 mg. of Sodium, 46 grams of
Carbohydrates,
3 grams of Fiber, 11 grams of
Sugar,
34 grams of Protein.
How many do you think you can eat? I think you're a piker if you can't manage
more than two. Go ahead. Eat THREE or FOUR of them. Take them home and put a
FRIED EGG on top of them. Chase it all down with a thick LARD SHAKE. Please.
For
me. For the children.
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From: Reverend DJ Epoch
KooKoo wrote:
More dreck.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Any further missives from you will be dumping into the bitbucket along
with purple and BP excrement.
You are a loser. In thought, word and deed you are a total loser. And I
will not waste any more time on you.
--
Rev. DJ Epoch
"This Church is so big on titties that it's almost mandatory for all our
front doors to have knockers." - Paul E. Jamison
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From: "Col. Sphinx Drummond"
Kevan wrote:
>
> He wa a fat pig bloated with his own product who shilled cancer-causing,
> hormone-infused, artifically-flavored yucky MEAT on the boob tube to fat,
> bloated Americans.
He was a self made man who started from scratch. Followed the Colonels example
and
was a success. As much as I hate the fast-food industry for perpetuating bad
dietary
habits and fostering a welfare state -- it is just supplying a demand. Don't
blame
the industry, it's the consumers that are ultimately accountable. The people
that
pay good money for the convenience of eating meat flavored crap are to blame
for
their own bloated selves. It's not like the food is forced on people.
As a side bar, those things they sell at the grocery store to lazy, er, busy
parents, I think they're called "Snackables," are probably a lot worse and of
poorer
quality than most fast food meals. A lot of shit packaged for kids to eat is
just
terrible. Way too much sugar, fat, and salt. You just can't beat carrots, celery,
apples, nuts, oranges, raisins, and such.
> He was one of the reasons our country has the most obese
> population in the world.
Not in any way. Wendy's in my opinion has always been a cut above MacDonells,
Jack-In-The-Box, Burger King, or Carls/Hardees. I wont go near those places
(unless
it's after 2:00 am and then 2 Jack-In-The-Box tacos for a buck becomes appealing).
For $2.14 I can go to Wendy's and get a side salad with low-cal dressing, and
a
baked potato with sour cream, butter, and chives. Fuck Jarred... You can't get
better bulk for $2.14.
-Col. Sphinx Drummond TWSR
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From: "Col. Sphinx Drummond"
"Col. Sphinx Drummond" wrote:
>
> As a side bar, those things they sell at the grocery store to lazy, er, busy
> parents, I think they're called "Snackables," are probably a lot worse and
of poorer
> quality than most fast food meals.
I don't mean "Snackables," I mean "Lunchables."
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From: "Col. Sphinx Drummond"
Kevan wrote:
> Wendys
Big Bacon Classic, 282 grams, 580
> Calories,
270 Calories from Fat, 30 grams of
> Fat,
12 grams of Saturated Fat, 100 mg. of
> Cholesterol,
1460 mg. of Sodium, 46 grams of
> Carbohydrates,
3 grams of Fiber, 11 grams of
> Sugar,
34 grams of Protein.
>
> How many do you think you can eat? I think you're a piker if you can't manage
> more than two. Go ahead. Eat THREE or FOUR of them. Take them home and put
a
> FRIED EGG on top of them. Chase it all down with a thick LARD SHAKE. Please.
For
> me. For the children.
You are such a myopian. Damn near everything you don't prepare yourself (or
have
specifically prepared) is potentially hazardous to your health. It's the American
way to have the freedom to chose how we clog our pipes and flush carcinogens
through
them. So many people choosing to play Russian Roulette with their bodies is
merely
natural selection in action.
-Col. Sphinx Drummond TWSR
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From: slaac@yahoo.com (Rev. Lemuel Atom)
Reverend DJ Epoch
> I had the opportunity to actually meet Dave Thomas when Wendy's was
> based out of Atlanta and had their corporate aircraft based at Peachtree
> DeKalb airport where I used to work while in college. Dave was as
> unassuming and genuine in person as he appeared on TV, and always
> treated everyone he met with respect. (NOT your average corporate
> pirahna.) He began the chain with a couple of small fast food
> restaurants he actually named after his daughter. He found a business
> formula BASED ON SERVING THE CUSTOMER that worked and allowed him to
> prosper.
Geez - as much as I hate to agree with K*v*n about ANYTHING...
...but let's face it, we're talking about a guy who made his fortune
running a chain of fast food joints that used sleazy marketing
practices to hawk blatantly unhealthy (and untasty) food to an already
unhealthy public. Not too mention the myriad of underpaid workers who
slave under genuinely shitty conditions to finance his fortune and his
airplane and his quadruple bypass. I say this because I worked at a
Wendy's when I was in high school for about two bucks an hour, and it
sucked BIG TIME. The reanimated corpse of Dave Thomas can blow me.
Still can't go in one of them damn restaurants to this day.
This guy was just as much a part of the Conspiracy as the CEO of
Enron, and just because he patted you on the head and gave you a nice
shiny dime everytime he came to pick up his goddamn airplane doesn't
change that one bit.
RLA
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From: Arbane the Terrible
Kevan wrote:
(Usual hissing and spitting deleted)
> And what the hell do you know of my charitable giving, anyway? Not a damn
> thing, is what. It's true I'll probably never have the gazillions of
> dollars like super-capitalist chief exploitation officer Dave did, but
> that doesn't make me any less a humanitarian:
So enlighten us. Go ahead and BRAG about the time and money you've spend
sleflessly to enrich others, when you're not here on alt.slack trying to
form a pearl. Don't worry that we'll think you're trying to make yoruself
look good--at this point, that's impossible.
Or are you one of those alt.discordian-style a-souls whose idea of
'achievement' is to look down on ANYTHING that those less cool people have
actually been duped into 'DOING', thus ruining their perfect state of False
Slack?
> Now
Jesus sat opposite the treasury and saw
> how
the people put money into the treasury.
> And
many who were rich put in much. Then one
> poor
widow came and threw in two mites, which
> make
a quadrans. So He called His disciples
> to Himself
and said to them, "Assuredly, I
> say
to you that this poor widow has put in
> more
than all those who have given to the
> treasury;
for they all put in out of their
> abundance,
but she out of her poverty put in
> all
that she had, her whole livelihood.
> Mark,
12:41-44 (NKJV)
Like I said, how many mites have YOU donated lately?
--
"Remember, the plural of 'moron' is 'focus group'."
-- James A. Wolf
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From: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee"
"Rev. Lemuel Atom" wrote:
>
>
> Geez - as much as I hate to agree with K*v*n about ANYTHING...
>
> ...but let's face it, we're talking about a guy who made his fortune
> running a chain of fast food joints that used sleazy marketing
> practices to hawk blatantly unhealthy (and untasty) food to an already
> unhealthy public.
I've been trying to recall the sleazy marketing practices, but can't.
Wendy's commercials read better than battery, toy, or car commercials
to me. It always cracks me up to watch people blame merchants for
everything, when huge majorities of the general public already want what
they're selling enough to not only drive there, but pay for it with
their hard-earned cash!
At any rate, I've never seen a gleaming playground attached to a
Wendy's, inhabited by the ubiquitous media image of a neutered, sterile
happy clown, nome sane? Conspiratorially leering hip-teen-accessoried
mice either, now that you mention it.
> Not too mention the myriad of underpaid workers who
> slave under genuinely shitty conditions to finance his fortune and his
> airplane and his quadruple bypass. I say this because I worked at a
> Wendy's when I was in high school for about two bucks an hour, and it
> sucked BIG TIME.
Then you did it before '76! =)
Frankly, it's way more important for me to watch my diet than most
folks, and it's damn nice to be able to go get a taco salad at Wendy's
for $3, eat the chips and (low-meat, low-fat, tasty) chili at lunch, and
know I have a nice salad for dinner. When you're stuck eating fast food
a lot because of your schedule, it's a downright life saver.
I'd much rather diss the folks making N-Sync action figures that will
last a million years in the landfill.
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From: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee"
Arbane the Terrible wrote:
>
> Like I said, how many mites have YOU donated lately?
I wanna know what percentage of his income. If it ain't over 10%
he's no better than anyone else.
What I REALLY wanna hear is his stance on abortion. But I figure
if I
get into that, most of the group will leave en masse.
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From: mshotz@aol.comnospam (James T. Rex King of the Monsters)
>So what if he was a nice guy on the surface of things? He still sold poison
>to
>people and used advertising to persuade them it wasn't poison at all, but
>food.
But that is what the people wanted! He tried to offer a low fat health menu,
in
fact Wndy's has some of the healthest Fast Food around.
But the customer wanted double bacon lard burger with butter. Hey, they may
be
Pink, but Thier Money's Green!
MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man
"Just think, the next time I shoot someone I could get arrested!"
Lt. Frank Dredin, "The Naked Gun"
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From: Kevan
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 11:18:57 GMT, "Col. Sphinx Drummond"
from Magnificodependability Group wrote:
>He was a self made man who started from scratch. Followed the Colonels example
and
>was a success. As much as I hate the fast-food industry for perpetuating bad
dietary
>habits and fostering a welfare state -- it is just supplying a demand. Don't
blame
>the industry, it's the consumers that are ultimately accountable. The people
that
>pay good money for the convenience of eating meat flavored crap are to blame
for
>their own bloated selves. It's not like the food is forced on people.
No, it's not forced on people. It's just made to look like something it isn't
through ubiquitous advertising. And, yes, you can blame the industry. They sell
the stuff. Sure, people might want it, but that doesn't make it right to sell
it. People also want tanks and flame throwers, and you can't sell those, because
they are too dangerous. Now, I don't advocate banning or criminalizing the fast
food industry; that would be ridiculous. However, their products should contain
warning labels just like cigarettes do. "Warning: consumption of this product
may be hazardous to your health."
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From: Kevan
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 18:08:26 GMT, Arbane the Terrible
AT&T Broadband wrote:
>
>So enlighten us. Go ahead and BRAG about the time and money you've spend
>sleflessly to enrich others, when you're not here on alt.slack trying to
>form a pearl. Don't worry that we'll think you're trying to make yoruself
>look good--at this point, that's impossible.
I keep my charitable giving private. I'm not going to be like some Pharisee.
To
be honest, I don't even know how much I give. I hand my accountant a short list
of charities I like and tell him to structure my taxes with them.
--
"hahahahaha ... that's it ... that tickles elmo the most!"
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human rights = peace
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alt.slack archive
a LONG BLACK BEARD and wear a BASEBALL HAT!! ... Although I don't know
WHY!! 5:10:36 PM 9 January 2002
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From: Kevan
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:01:30 -0600, "Chas. 'Mark' Bee"
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign wrote:
>
> What I REALLY wanna hear is his stance on abortion. But I figure
if I
>get into that, most of the group will leave en masse.
I'm pro choice.
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From: Geoff Bronner
In article <20020109151651.04445.00000551@mb-cc.aol.com>, James T. Rex
King of the Monsters
>
> But the customer wanted double bacon lard burger with butter. Hey, they may
be
> Pink, but Thier Money's Green!
That's right.... grease is a legal food product and I'm not gonna
condemn someone for selling it and making a few bucks off the pink
masses.
-G
--
<http://www.dartmouth.edu/~geoffb/>
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From: bobdiddley@aol.com (Bobdiddley)
>Still, if there's one thing that can be said about Dave
>starring in those Wendy's commercials, it's this: He certainly
>portrayed the typical Wendy's customer. He was an overweight aging
>bald guy, instead of the beefcake models usually used in commercials.
>How many beer commercials do you see starring guys with beer bellies?
>
Yeah, PriMate and I get a kick out of the commercials, but I tried one time
to
actually eat the shit they sell at Wendy's, and just couldn't make my face do
that.
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From: Kevan
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 06:11:15 -0500, Reverend DJ Epoch
The Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Motion wrote:
>Any further missives from you will be dumping into the bitbucket along
>with purple and BP excrement.
>
>You are a loser. In thought, word and deed you are a total loser. And I
>will not waste any more time on you.
Oh, forgive me for scoffing, mocking and blaspheming. I didn't know I couldn't
do that in a SubDeemie newsgroup.
To quote Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez (known as "The Rat"): "If
you're going to shoot a man, shoot. Don't just talk about it."
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From: Kevan
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:28:47 -0600, "Chas. 'Mark' Bee"
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign wrote:
> I've been trying to recall the sleazy marketing practices, but can't.
Let's examine the famous Wendy's campaign "Where's the beef?"
The ads directly stated the more beef there is in a hamburger, the better it
is.
Further, it only measured amount of "beef" by the size of the beef patty, which
encourages the use of gristle, fat and additives instead of lean meat. This
can
easily be demonstrated by the fact that a Wendy's burger has almost 50 percent
of its calories as fat (a "plain single" has 350 calories, 140 from fat).
According to latest USDA guidelines, one should consume fats and oils
"sparingly", and one should have only 2 to 3 servings (one serving = 2 to 3
ounces) of LEAN meat per day. Further the meat should be prepared by broiling,
roasting or boiling -- not frying them like a Wendy's burger.
Those "Where's The Beef" ads directly encouraged the consumption of "food" in
a
manner directly contrary to known good dietary guidelines, yet not once
mentioned that consuming the product was potentially harmful. That seems like
a
sleazy marketing practice to me.
Again, I don't want to ban fast food restaurants, but I would like to see
warning labels on fast food products.
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From: "Col. Sphinx Drummond"
Kevan wrote:
> However, their products should contain
> warning labels just like cigarettes do. "Warning: consumption of this product
> may be hazardous to your health."
You're silly. Warning labels only serve the sanctimonious and the ink sellers.
It wasn't
the warning label that finally got you to quit smoking. You're just being silly.
-Col. Sphinx Drummond TWSR
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From: Kevan
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:14:46 GMT, "Col. Sphinx Drummond"
from Magnificodependability Group wrote:
>You're silly. Warning labels only serve the sanctimonious and the ink sellers.
It wasn't
>the warning label that finally got you to quit smoking. You're just being silly.
"Warning: A diet high in fat causes health problems like clogged arteries and
cancer."
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From: sockfumes@Bahooga.com (Rev. Fried Egg)
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:56:21 -0600, Kevan
>
>So what if he was a nice guy on the surface of things? He still sold poison
to
>people and used advertising to persuade them it wasn't poison at all, but food.
>And I'm sure his ads fairly portrayed his happy, smiling workers; oh, they
>aren't exploited wage slaves at all. They should be happy to have ANY job and
>take whatever CORPORATE FAT CAT DAVE deigned to give them.
Uh, who ISN'T selling poison to people? Everything you get at your
local market is tainted in some way, from steriod and antibiotic
stuffed beef and chicken to imported produce packed with systemic
insecticide, sometimes from countries that don't even have the minimal
safegaurds we apply (as in no DDT).
So what about all our marvelous organic produce and free-range
chickens, you might ask?
Well, it's a little better, but still you have have crap grown
supposedly pesticide-free next to stuff they hose down with every
chemical in sight, in soil that has been degraded for generations by
the same practices. And often the so-called constraints required to
have shit labeled "organic" are acknowledged by growers only in their
violation. I know. Because I know some people in the business. Slip a
few bucks to an inspector, be reasonably discrete and you can be
getting triple the price for pretty much the same same shit everybody
else grows.
And as for what's required for the free-range designation, well, it's
so vague (in this country) that it's largely meaningless.
If you want to eat so-called healthy shit, you gotta shoot it, raise
it, or grow it. And that's about the size of it. And that's what I do.
As much as I CAN. But it ain't much of an option for an NYC apartment
dweller. But's it's still his or her fault (and that of the entire
American public) that our food is shit.
Dave ain't at fault for giving people what they want, and neither are
the growers. People WANT the slop. And they'd rather buy an ear fulla
poison than one that had a few kernels chewed off of it by a corn
earworm.
In other words, so full of poison that the goddam worm wouldn't want
to eat it.
BON APPETIT!!
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From: Arbane the Terrible
K'van wrote:
> To quote Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez (known as "The Rat"):
> "If you're going to shoot a man, shoot. Don't just talk about it."
Sadly, until MWOWM is integrated with the Internet, the term 'kill file'
will remain metaphorical.
--
"Remember, the plural of 'moron' is 'focus group'."
-- James A. Wolf
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From: Arbane the Terrible
K'v'n wrote:
>
> I keep my charitable giving private. I'm not going to be like some
> Pharisee. To be honest, I don't even know how much I give. I hand my
> accountant a short list of charities I like and tell him to structure my
> taxes with them.
Like I said--impress us.
And I'll bet Jesus didn't have TAX WRITEOFFS in mind when he condemned the
uncharitable to the Firey Pit.
--
"Remember, the plural of 'moron' is 'focus group'."
-- James A. Wolf
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From: Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench
In article <5csp3uc93gr5ccurue8q4sapn9f61uqeqf@4ax.com>, Kevan
>
> "Warning: A diet high in fat causes health problems like clogged arteries
and
> cancer."
"WARNING: Improper use of this product is STUPID."
I don't see *that* label on ANYTHING, and so many things DESERVE one.
Her Ladyship Lilith
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