From: Greg Kucharo <redbeard@piratehaven.org>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: redbeard@piratehaven.org
Date: Sat, Jan 12, 2002 8:47 PM
Does Stang ever respond to mail! The real question
is, did he ever
get the hard drive I sent him?
--
redbeard@piratehaven.org
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Subject: Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: joecosby@mindspring.com (Joe Cosby)
You should email him and ask.
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com
"I done took 'em up. I still believe it's right.
The Bible didn't say they
wouldn't bite"
- Snake Handler 'Little George', died July 25,1955 [from
a snake bite]
Sig by Kookie Jar 5.98d http://go.to/generalfrenetics/
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Subject: Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: HellPope Huey <hellpopehuey@subspamgeenyus.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Oh, sure he does, but it takes up so much of his time,
he gets impacted sitting
there for so long. I sent him an "emergency fecal
containment unit" for Xistmas
(read: shitbag) and he e-mailed me back, saying "THIS
CAME JUST IN TIME! I'M
USING IT RIGHT NOW!!!!" So the answer is YES, but
at the expense of his bowels.
So be sparing with yer e-mail; we need him to live as
long as possible and that
will be curtailed if he's FILLED with shit as opposed
to merely being sacredly
FULLA shit. OK OK SLACK SLACK
HellPope Huey, hellpopehuey@subgenius.com
Larry, Moe & Curly's School of
Grace, Wit & Charm
"How fast is the speed of thought
for a race that isn't thinking at all?"
- "Heralds"
"Very deep.
You should send that in to Reader's Digest;
they've got a page for people like you."
- Douglas Adams
"Now we're being attacked by giant weinees!"
- "Invader
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Subject: Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: Greg Kucharo <redbeard@piratehaven.org>
Ooo I don't wanna clog him any further. I just want
to make sure he
got what's coming to him. A VERY large hard drive.
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Subject: Explanation: Was Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: disciple@templeoferis.org (St. Marc The Perpetually
Amused)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Jan 12, 2002 10:05 PM
Message-ID: <c59aeedc.0201121905.1b558991@posting.google.com>
Just between you and me and the fence post, it takes
him a while to
remember which buttons to push. I've sent him shitloads
of stuff, and
even when I insult him it takes a long time for him
to acknowledge it.
I wouldn't sweat it.
He'd better keep them titty pictures comin' though,
or there'll be
Hell to pay.
St. Marc
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Subject: Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
I think I just emailed you about that this morning...
answer, YES, I got the hard drive, but only yesterday
did I actually
get to the P.O. and KNOW that it WAS the hard drive
you sent that the
yellow slip was for... I have been there earlier in
the week and
SUSPECTED that the yellow slip might mean the box you
sent, but at this
particular post office there's a really nasty long line
unless you come
early in the morning. Which is what I did yesterday.
And sure enough, inside is a sealed up bag of HARD DRIVE!!
BIG HARD
DRIVE just like you said!
DOBBS SHALL REWARD YOU WITH BLOW JOBS ETERNAL, COME
X-DAY! Maybe he'll
even move over occasionally and let somebody else blow
you.
But seriously, and stentoriously, THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
THANK YOU for
this GREAT DAMN CHUNK OF TOOL!
I spent this whole week, as it happens, engaged in learning
what to DO
with an 80 gig hard drive, namely, I finally learned
high end
professional style computer video editting. I have hardly
slept at all
for a week, as I knew would happen, and as I guessed
would happen, I
already invented 2 weird animation techniques, have
cranked out several
quasi-animations, and am in the processing of totally
revising a lot of
our old rinky-looking stuff... and that's just since
THURSDAY! You
should see the list of fun little things to do LATER.
FINAL CUT PRO is the name of the program. Until a year
ago, any new
fangled video editing I learned was kind of a moot point
since a) I was
no longer doing that for a living and b) my equipment
couldn't do full
res video anyway. But a year ago I got this Mac G4
and, thanks to
DONATIONS largely, and a bunch of outlay on my own,
I now have the gear
to work in REAL video again.
AND I AM SHITTING!!
As I knew would happen.
I used to cut Con film on Moviolas and stuff. Then I
learned the old
VHS offline to Quad online sort of way it was done in
the 80s. Then in
the 90s I JUST did DOBBS WORK. All SubG videos I put
together in the
90s were done with two Handycams and a pause button.
That's IT.
Ah, but now... NOW I can begin life ANEW!!!
It's like being BORN AGAIN!
This Final Cut Pro program is somewhat like Photoshop
combined with a
music mixing program combined with Director combined
with, well, a
Moviola. If I hadn't already become a well versed Photoshop
amateur I
would never have been able to get through the Final
Cut Pro tutorial.
Now I'm a timeline-marking fool. I'm a spline-tweaking
razzmatazz. Well
at least I have cleared up a lot of my own ignorance
about video
formats. And I can make a spinning shiny logo from scratch
and
superimpose it on trippy background footage and output
it at broadcast
quality.
The 60 gig drive that I use for multimedia -- mostly
HOUR OF SLACK and
old-SubG-tape remixes -- was hovering around 20 gigs
used for months --
until this week. Now I've added another 20 gb of original
animations,
title sequences, alt.binaries.slack-art "slide
show" movies, and
transfers of my old 16mm underground movies, which I
intend to spruce
up.
Space was already getting tight when this drive arrived.
I don't actually have a digital video CAMERA or other
interface device
of my own yet. My High 8 video cam is analog only. I
have been using
the new digital cam owned by A.C.E. to do these transfers
from tape to
computer and back.
At Thanksgiving, I learned the kids' video editing program,
iMovie, and
cut my Burning Man home movies for practice. What I'm
shooting for
immediately with Final Cut Pro is to drastically repair
the videos we
sell now. PREDOBBS STANGFILM, SUBGENIUS INTERVIEWS,
and the X-days
primarily. The submasters are all falling apart anyway.
But what i'm REALLY shooting for is a documentary about
WEIRD SUBGENIUS
EVENTS, where I'd pore through all our raw videos going
back to the 80s
and find the very weirdest, most unusual moment at each
devival or
campout or whatever. There is always SOMETHING at each
show that really
should be... remembered... and now I don't have to borrow
equipment to
do it, I can sit here and trim and clip and narrate
and subtitle at my
leisure, such as it is.
Frank Zappa did that with spare footage and backstage
video for THE
MAKING OF 200 MOTELS, which in some ways is better than
the
over-ambitious 200 MOTELS itself (one of my all time
favorite movies).
The Merry Pranksters just managed to finish doing a
similar thing with
their old "bus movie" just before Rev. Kesey
died. I understand that
this was done by Ken Kesey and Ken Babbs, working with
their SONS.
Likewise, all the advise that I've needed outside the
free online
tutorials has come from my son. I spent half my retirement
$ putting
him through fancy film school and at least it has paid
off that way. I
am now about one third of the way caught up to where
my LITTLE BOY is
at, technically, modern video-wise.
So that's what I've been doing -- living out my fucking
DREAM COME
TRUE. I have JUST enough money to SCRAPE BY, if people
buy new
SubGenius CDs (I HIGHLY recommend ALL of them), which
buys the TIME to
apply these FRANKLY UNBELIEVABLY GREAT NEW TOOLS to
my lifelong trade
of making monster movies.
I did get off the track there, but now I can slowly
yank reality back
into conformity with my desires. I can make movies again.
ANIMATION!!
Fake documentaries! Bug Porn! I have a Bug Porn 1-minute
commercial
made of stolen footage about 1/3rd done.
However, I have ignored my wife, starved myself, gone
without sleep,
drank too much coffee, abandoned all hope of answering
email, and
otherwise acted like a male dog when there's a bitch
in heat nearby.
The bitch is AFFORDABLE VIDEO AND COMPUTER GRAPHICS
production and just
enough new knowledge to try to make myself dangerous.
I knew this would happen. AHAHAHAHA!!! FINALLY!!! ULTIMATE
TECHNO-SLACK!!! And Princess Wei is TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING!!
She knew
I'd finally, eventually feel I had used the gear enough
that I
wouldn't be afraid of FORGETTING what I'd just learned,
and that has
happened.
This morning I kind of resurfaced... checked last night's
Dobbshead
morph rendering, nothing that can't be fixed in "post,"
and realized I
was AGAIN several days late on THE HOUR OF SLACK, I
hadn't even THOUGHT
about what bills I needed to pay, the house was cluttered
with the
PREVIOUS project I'd been in when the Video Editing
Bug bit -- getting
our huge stash of poster sized artwork framed and hung
-- and so, now
that I think about it, I should quit this spew and go
spew into the
Hour of Slack bucket... gotta get that produced and
17 copies made and
mailed! CAN DO thanks to the NEW CD BURNER -- ALSO
DONATED, by the
Church Architect, REV. ED STRANGE.
So back to Sound Land. If I wanted to REALLY drive myself
around the
bend I'd choose this Sunday to switch from cutting HOUR
OF SLACK on
PEAK (basically all 2-track) to Pro-Tools (a huge, complex
multitrack
sound mixing prog which I half-know.)
As far as the email goes, I'm probably no more swamped
with email than
most people. What I'm "swamped" with is more
often stuff like grocery
shopping, clothes washing, book keeping, gear repair,
phoning my
family.
We do what MUST be done around here, and no more, so
that I can spend
all the rest of my spare time chasing my new wife around
the desk while
she giggles and pretends to flee, and stuff like that.
This Space
Princess Consort/Sacred Scribe gig is PERFECT. It is
like HEAVEN. There
IS Slack, Dobbs was NOT lying!
I will post some mini-renditions of these animations
and so forth on
a.b.s. as soon as I tweak 'em better.
Wait'll you see the video of 4 months of LeMur art compressed
into 2
minutes. (ALL the art that I've done in eight YEARS
only runs ONE
minute)
--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath
of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 140306, Dallas,
TX 75214
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: Geoff Bronner <geoff.bronner@dartmouth.edu>
I've seen Firewire bridges for analog audio/video that
let you use an
older camera with Final Cut Pro
(anyone got anything good to say about any of them?)
-Geoff
--
<http://www.dartmouth.edu/~geoffb/>
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Subject: Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: Dr. Codini <Codini@subgeniusdot.whatever>
>
>(anyone got anything good to say about any of them?)
>
>-Geoff
nope. I tried the Formac studio and had problems with
it and the tech
support sucked. I Sent it back. I haven't tried the
others-Sony and
Dazzel both make versions, the formac "looked good"
in the reviews I
could find. Get a Matrox RTMac, gives you analog in
and out and
s-video to a NTSC monitor, plus real time effects.
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Subject: Re: Is Stang swamped by email?
From: faultline1989@yahoo.com (Gary)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Jan 14, 2002 2:07 PM
Message-ID: <87dac912.0201141107.56b7cda8@posting.google.com>
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
wrote in message
> Frank Zappa did that with spare footage and backstage
video for THE
> MAKING OF 200 MOTELS, which in some ways is better
than the
> over-ambitious 200 MOTELS itself (one of my all
time favorite movies).
It is? What in the world for? I love most Zappa but
this one
completely baffles me (other than some choice humorous
nuggets).
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