Re: Burning Man

From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2001 12:46 PM

In article <tshaltsaekj9nem5ti3r52arp6eoaf4dc2@4ax.com>, Modemac
<modemac@modemac.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:48:46 GMT, shinpath@gol.com (Shining Path of
> Least Resistance) wrote:
> >Go to Burningman.com anyway to get an idea of the Slack and merriment.
> >My favorite memory from 97 was dancing with a cute punk rocker to
> >Polkacide and realizing that me and my polka pals were kicking up a
> >HUGE DUST cloud. That and getting lost one night in the desert.
>
> I'd rather work on making X-Day a bigger event than Burning Man.
> Burning Man is becoming commercialized and corporatized, and
> fortunately we still have a while before X-Day reaches that point.
>
> --
> First Online Church of "Bob"
> http://www.modemac.com/

I think you're nuts on that score, Modemac. Burning Man makes X-Day
Drills look like a Baptist square dance by comparison. As far as being
commercialized and corporatized, you'd have to explain that one to me.
I thought WE were the ones who were commercialized and corporatized,
just not very good at it. I think Burning Man is a GREAT event and if
you're interested in spectacular art, you should try to attend while
it's still being held at Black Rock.

--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected
P.O. Box 181417, Cleveland, OH 44118 (fax 216-320-9528)
A subsidiary of:
The SubGenius Foundation, Inc. / P.O. Box 140306, Dallas, TX 75214
SubSITE: http://www.subgenius.com PRABOB
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: Modemac <modemac@modemac.com>

Before Reebok, Sony, and Ticketmaster buy it?

I'm not sure if I'd *want* to be at an event like Burning Man. Being
surrounded by 25,000 "artists" -- of which about 85% are probably just
coming to sit back and be entertained while 15% do all the work -- in
the middle of the desert with no showers and no HOT TUB doesn't sound
like my idea of a good time. Even if they *do* have Dr. Megavolt and
we don't, yet. I'm of the opinion that we *can* make X-Day into the
biggest Brushwood event of the year -- bigger than Starwood -- but our
lack of commercialism may stymie us and keep us from bringing in the
really big crowds. Christ, even before we left Brushwood on Sunday,
the place was filling up with vendors, snake oil salesmen, New Age
crap dealers, and other folks of that sort.

We attracted one pagan band to X-Day (Woven Dreams), and look how far
they got. On the other hand, folks like Little Fyodor and Lust in
Space joined our fold because they came looking for a good time (and
maybe to make some money)...and they got it, in spades. If you're
looking to make a *profit* at X-Day, you may as well forget it (except
for the SubGenius Foundation itself)...BUT, there's no reason why we
can't attract a decent crowd of maybe 300 or so and STILL have a good
time.

We may not be as big as Burning Man, but the environment is more
hospitable (pagans notwithstanding) and we STILL get to take a clean
shower each morning there. Given a choice between Burning Man and
X-Day, I'll take X-Day...especially if it's anything like this year,
when everyone came together and MADE the Rupture happen!

Though I'm still committed to following Dr. Geddyn's commandment:
BRING ONE PERSON NEXT YEAR WHO HAS NEVER BEEN TO X-DAY BEFORE. Let's
set a goal of at least 300 people, and see if we can't still pull it
off AND get our Slack, too! 1998 was legendary, but the behind the
scenes folks (which I had not done nearly enough with, that year)
busted their asses and wore themselves out to make sure everyone else
had a good time. Next year, I want 300 people there all pitching in
and giving Slack to everyone.

Hell yes, I want my cake and eat it too. I'm a SUBGENIUS! I WANT IT
ALL!!!

--
First Online Church of "Bob"
http://www.modemac.com/
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: bear@pole.com (polar bear)

>
Burning Man has reached what we ad industry execs refer to as "Critical
Mass." Within a year you'll see a BMW commercial (soundtrack by Moby), a
feature length motion picture with follow on CD and video game, plus a host
of Burning Man exposes on daytime talk-u-drama. New episodes of Survivor
are already in the works...

pb
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: opalpeacok@aol.com.net (Salacia the Overseer)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2001 9:33 PM
Message-ID: <20010723213325.10012.00000089@ng-fm1.aol.com>

<< New episodes of Survivor
are already in the works...

pb >>

Ha! I would watch "Survivor Does Burning Man"!

Headmistress Salacia the Overseer
Branch Salacians
Director of Programming, Keeper of the Seven Squeals, keanuphobe
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2001 10:14 PM
Message-ID: <230720011914001334%lilith@ZubJenius.com>

In article <7j8plt0p2v5u4bqrjqk1gp8aes5h8maugf@4ax.com>, Modemac
<modemac@modemac.com> wrote:

> If you're
> looking to make a *profit* at X-Day, you may as well forget it (except
> for the SubGenius Foundation itself)...

Speak for yourself, Modemac. I didn't do too badly, selling Connie fish
t-shirts, and I hardly hyped them at all. I didn't make TONS of money
but I was able to have much economic freedom--and the credit line to
then win the date with Sis D. For that matter, I understand that Joy
D'Veeve sold candid Polaroids of herself and was happy with the
outcome.
So it CAN be done; you just have to provide something nobody else is
doing. I hope that's something any SubGenius can do...!

Also, you can also engage in barter, and thus get a lot of cool shit
without exchanging cash.

> We may not be as big as Burning Man, but the environment is more
> hospitable (pagans notwithstanding) and we STILL get to take a clean
> shower each morning there.

You hit a nerve there. It's nice to be guaranteed that hot shower.
Hell, if the Xists don't have hot water, you can FORGET about me being
Ruptured. Even if all they do is put my brain in a jar, I'll STILL want
a hot shower in the morning.

> Though I'm still committed to following Dr. Geddyn's commandment:
> BRING ONE PERSON NEXT YEAR WHO HAS NEVER BEEN TO X-DAY BEFORE.

I convinced one to come this year. Next year, I'm working on bringing
the entire Seattle clench, or at least enough to rent an RV. (It was
their idea in the first place.) And I know the one who came, St. Bevo
Youngblood, will be bringing his S.O. with him.

> Let's
> set a goal of at least 300 people, and see if we can't still pull it
> off AND get our Slack, too!

Goal? *blank look*

Her Ladyship Lilith

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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: ericapathy@aol.com (Rev Sun Nguyen)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2001 1:30 AM
Message-ID: <20010724013019.00228.00000748@ng-mn1.aol.com>

>Burning Man is a GREAT event

Are we about events? I go to X Day because I'm trying to board an escape ship.

There's no Burning Man prophesy. And anyone can go...yeti or not.
Burning Man is a vacation, X Day is a destiny.
Why try to copy a jerk-off when we have the real deal in Brushwood?

Thank You and OK

Rev Sun Nguyen (soon nwin)
Church of the Immaculate Hymen Resistance
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "illuminatrix" <dhazel@fnord.friend.ly.net>

if all you want is escape saucers you can just stay home and clench your
subg membership card tightly while you wait.

even as relaxed and casual as it may be, xday -is- an event.

an xday the size of burning man might be a logistical nightmare but isn't it
exactly what "Bob" would want?

more cash.
more media exposure.
more potential sex partners.
and more names in the book of life.

hordes of subgenii and flocks of bobbies scampering over the landscape.

frop. money. slack. parties. fire. bobbies. freaks. chaos. tribute.
reporters. cash. tents. fireworks. fires. pilgrims. auctions. baptisms.
nudity. aliens. heretics. reverends. popes. saints. sinners. human
sacrifices. doktors. pirate radio. uberfemmes. overmen. special
investigators. federal agents. pils. glowsticks. slack. orgasms. substance
abuse. nuclear weaponry. alcohol. sex. converts. blood. souls. rock and
roll. lasers. relics. guns. cartels. cults. clenches. gizmos. robots.
recruits. hierarchy bodyguards. massive sound systems. gene splicing while
you wait. movies. videos. bad film. chaos. tech toys. humanoids. product.
sales. zombies for "Bob". mana from heaven. weirdness. spectacles. rants.
freak-outs. anti-music. danger. money. drugs. sex. bodies. souls. numbers.
cash. products. sales.

full metal dobbsheads shimmering in the moonlight.
souls to be saved. conspiracies to be crushed. merchandise to be moved.

what's not to love?

to strive for any less than full planetary saturation is to admit that our
entire way of life is a sham.
or something.
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "Col. Sphinx Drummond" <sphinx@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: sphinx@subgenius.com
Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2001 8:18 AM
Message-ID: <3B5D6778.D5185920@subgenius.com>

Modemac wrote:

> Let's set a goal

I'm confused by goal orientation. Do SubGenii set goals?

-Col. Sphinx Drummond
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: modemac@modemac.com (Modemac)

SubGenii are actually making a profit, or breaking even? Truly, this
is a sign of the end times.
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: modemac@modemac.com (Modemac)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2001 1:23 PM
Message-ID: <b71f73eb.0107240923.82eaf2f@posting.google.com>

"Col. Sphinx Drummond" <sphinx@subgenius.com> wrote in message news:<3B5D6778.D5185920@subgenius.com>...
> Modemac wrote:
> I'm confused by goal orientation. Do SubGenii set goals?

Depends on which team is projected to win, and how much the odds are
with the Vegas bookies.
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>

You can take showers at Burning Man. There are public showers after a
fashion, people bring camp shower kits, and most RVs have showers. You
just have to be sparing with the water -- UNLIKE PHILO!!! It's the same
situation as in most campgrounds -- you bring what you need. Some
people go hiking for days in the wilderness without taking a tiled
bathroom with them. If you have money for an RV -- about $500 for the
week if you split it with 2 or 3 others -- you might as well be in a
motel room! If you don't have money, then you do just like when you
camp anywhere else. Sponge baths etc.

Also, it isn't blistering hot, due to the high elevation -- in fact
it's really cold at night. If it RAINS for LONG the mud becomes a
problem. That doesn't happen most years. The wind storms happen almost
daily but are very short (and exciting!). There are no bugs, snakes,
tarantulas, or even mosquitos, because there are NO PLANTS and NO
PUDDLES... it's a huge dry lakebed.

If you have no fucking SENSE, and no money either, you'd probably HATE
Burning Man, but you can have a GREAT time there using either sense OR
money. I realize that not everybody here is a backpacker, but you don't
have to be one to rent an RV. You DO have to be one to NOT rent an RV.

My whole budget for BM will be: $210 round trip from Cleveland to SF
$140 event fee for the week (I bought mine early, they're $200 now)
$520 for the RV (shared with Wei, Philo, Puzzling Evidence -- $1700
total)).
Probably $300 for food, water, coffee, gas, videotape, stuff like that.

Sheets and bedding and cookware come with the RV. (which has a stove
and microwave, toilet, shower, 3 double beds.)

So I'll be TOTALLY IN DEBT through Xmas... so what else is new?

Buying or selling of anything is frowned upon. In fact you're even
supposed to cover or customize logos like "U-HAUL" on your rented
truck. I brought Dobb shirts and traded a couple for some very good
psuedo-frappy the very first day. The one thing that can be bought is
coffee, by the cup from the BM Org in the center tent-mall.

Last year I felt weird being a "tourist" because most people seemed to
be contributing SOMETHING, even if it was just looking funny in their
goofy outfit. So I took to carrying the Full Metal Dobbshead and doing
shadow tricks with it when the opportunity presented itself. (Pretty
lame except at the Shadow Theater.) This year, Philo and I are having a
SubGenius Badfilm Drive-In much like Dr. Dark had at 4X-Day -- Philo
can get a FANCY video projector from work and we both have world clas
badfilm and bulldada collections. If we have a couple of benches and
popcorn and lemonade, and a screen, that'll be good enough -- and we
won't have to man it all the time, we can wander away and let it run
itself for a movie at a time.

What you mainly do at BM is wander around looking at stuff. The girl
watching (or whatnot) is GREAT because it's such a YOUTHFUL crowd, at
least compared to what I'm used to at things like Starwood. I'm like a
grandpa at Burning Man. Philo's like Methuselah. He's almost 50.

It is the WHITEST bunch of colored people I ever saw. The color is all
body paint. It's like being in England.

The art cars and the constructions, the nutty theme camps, the
costumes, all that makes it rather unlike any other shin-dig I can
think of EXCEPT X-Day! It's just that X-Day is 150 people, BM is
15,000. We have one art-catapult, they have 100, and several mobile
art-DRAGONS to boot. And so on. We have two or three nice "theme
lounges" with free booze, they have hundreds. And so on.

They started exactly like X-Day did, with 50 friends and one burning
thing, only they started back in the 80s... well, so did we, but they
did it in the BAY AREA, not the backwoods of Arkansas. So theirs grew.
We didn't do it AGAIN until 1996. Ours is now SHRINKING.

If we ever do see X-Day Drills as big as Burning Man, it would probably
be a good idea if one of us had paid attention to what THEY had done
right and wrong, now wouldn't it? I am happy to be that one. I have
also closely watched how Starwood is run, from inside. It's profitable
but appeals to a completely different clientele than we do. Even though
Starwood is fringe religion and BM is fringe art, we're more like BM.
And BM is also more cult-like than Starwood is, believe it or not.

What I can't understand is why the Con didn't start using BM in ads a
LONG LONG TIME AGO -- it's very possible that they didn't because BM
wouldn't LET them.

You'd have to experience BM's media center to know what I mean. They
make it VERY difficult for the big media reporters, but are real chummy
with the independents. You aren't giving BM nearly enough credit.
People calling Burning Man "commercial" comes from their own
imagination of what THEY would do with it if they suddenly found a
multimillion-dollar art/disaster on their hands, not the way BM really
is. From what I've seen of the way the Burning Man Org is run, it's a
relatively workable, democratic, and amazingly NON-commercialized
thing.

So far! I didn't meet Larry Harvey yet, but I probably will this time.
I'll tell him for you, "Hey Larry, man -- don't sell out, ok?"

If we could be as big as BM that would be GREAT! But it would partly be
THANKS to Burning Man and the lessons learned, and ground paved, that
such a thing would even happen.

It's a good thing SOMEBODY around here isn't totally closed-minded and
knee-jerk conservative when it comes to our cultish rivals and
competition, or we'd be even further behind than we are now. AHEM!!

Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: prostata@bronze.coil.com (The Stinking Bishop Prostata Cantata MP)
Newsgroups: alt.slack

In article <b71f73eb.0107240347.4a1ba2e0@posting.google.com>,
Modemac <modemac@modemac.com> wrote:

>SubGenii are actually making a profit, or breaking even? Truly, this
>is a sign of the end times.

Modemac, my entire life has been a long series of stupid moves
that somehow at least break even and often make profit. (Getting really
drunk and starting a business is the best example).

I don't understand it, but now that Joy and I have joined our
slackfields it seems that no matter what we do we always seem to land on
top.

*shrug*

I guess the end is near, eh?

signs and portents, my friend, signs and portents.

--
-------
I have burped, farted, and sneezed at the same time, and I am still
alive. --Dan Povenmire, Los Angeles
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: Modemac <modemac@modemac.com>

On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:33:25 -0400, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
<stang@subgenius.com> wrote:
>It's a good thing SOMEBODY around here isn't totally closed-minded and
>knee-jerk conservative when it comes to our cultish rivals and
>competition, or we'd be even further behind than we are now. AHEM!!

Ahem, indeed. You know very well that those of us who can't afford to
go to Burning Man will instead sit behind our keyboards and whine
about how lame it is. After all, that's what most SubGenii do when it
comes to X-Day - only a few of us go there, and the rest whine about
it.

But rather than say that X-Day is shrinking (even though we've had the
same number of people for the last three years, and everyone agrees
that this year was a TRIUMPH) and run off to Burning Man instead, I'm
still more interested in putting some effort into making X-Day the
festival it DESERVES to be. Maybe THEN those goddamn saucers will
show up!

--
First Online Church of "Bob"
http://www.modemac.com/
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "Col. Sphinx Drummond" <sphinx@subgenius.com>

Modemac wrote:

> "Col. Sphinx Drummond" <sphinx@subgenius.com> wrote in message news:<3B5D6778.D5185920@subgenius.com>...
> > Modemac wrote:
> > I'm confused by goal orientation. Do SubGenii set goals?
>
> Depends on which team is projected to win, and how much the odds are
> with the Vegas bookies.

I assume once those are determined, then one or more of the best players of the favored team is or are
convinced it's in his or their best interest to lose.

-Col. Sphinx Drummond TWSR
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: none@yerbiz.com (Legume)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2001 7:33 PM
Message-ID: <Xns90E8C74DF9758CortezLegume18465086@24.12.106.199>

Modemac wrote:
>I'm
> still more interested in putting some effort into making X-Day the
> festival it DESERVES to be.

"Effort". In a church dedicated to slack, you want to use "effort" to make
X-Day better.

You're the kind of guy who'd rape a comatose woman at GUNPOINT.

> Maybe THEN those goddamn saucers will
> show up!

And maybe monkeys will fly out of Stang's butt.
--
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Dr. K. "Cortez" Legume

Looking for the New World
and the Palace in the Sun
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: opalpeacok@aol.com.net (Salacia the Overseer)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2001 8:36 PM
Message-ID: <20010724203632.06791.00000966@ng-fy1.aol.com>

<<Description of Heaven too good to quote>>

(Spinning around and around
Doing the potty dance
waving fingers and hands up and down)

(Whining)
IwanttogoIwanttogoIwanttogoIwanttogoIWANTTO GO!

(*smacking up drool*)

Headmistress Salacia the Overseer
Branch Salacians
Director of Programming, Keeper of the Seven Squeals, keanuphobe
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: bear@pole.com (polar bear)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 12:01 AM
Message-ID: <bear-ya02408000R2407012101150001@news.direct.ca>

In article <240720011333259644%stang@subgenius.com>, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
<stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

-snip-
>
> What I can't understand is why the Con didn't start using BM in ads a
> LONG LONG TIME AGO -- it's very possible that they didn't because BM
> wouldn't LET them.

Damn, does that mean I can't shoot my BMW commercial onsite? I suppose
they got that big wooden guy copyrighted too. Hey, maybe we can sic dean
on them!
>
-snip-
> If we could be as big as BM that would be GREAT! But it would partly be
> THANKS to Burning Man and the lessons learned, and ground paved, that
> such a thing would even happen.

Whoa, they paved the desert? Now THAT would be something to see!

Why not just move X-day to Burning Man? Set up across the road, so to
speak, and convert the bobless pagans. For me, Brushwood is hella
difficult, which is why you never see me there. I'm sure other
left-coasters feel the same. On the other hand, I'd be more than happy to
rent a honking big Winnie and drive Vancouver and Seattle subs to BM, as
long as I knew the clan was gathering. (I tire of pagans - we got too many
here as it is)

Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big - like a
DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!

whatsay?

pb
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "kevbob" <kevbob@ecsis.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 1:00 AM
Message-ID: <tlsk5ka9joq28b@corp.supernews.com>

"polar bear" <bear@pole.com> wrote in message
news:bear-ya02408000R2407012101150001@news.direct.ca...
> Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big - like
a
> DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!

especially if it is on fire.

--
"This ministration without full consent
Fire and brimstone, I will not relent
Just as all good things must come to an end
I will administer as I see fit" -Clutch
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: bear@pole.com (polar bear)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 5:05 AM
Message-ID: <bear-ya02408000R2507010205240001@news.direct.ca>

In article <tlsk5ka9joq28b@corp.supernews.com>, "kevbob" <kevbob@ecsis.net>
wrote:

> "polar bear" <bear@pole.com> wrote in message
> news:bear-ya02408000R2407012101150001@news.direct.ca...
> > Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big - like
> a
> > DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!
>
> especially if it is on fire.
>
A fire no doubt caused by passengers fropping up with undue care and
attention, since DC-3's are among the safest planes around.
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: friday@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.friday
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 7:20 AM
Message-ID: <friday-ya02408000R2507010720180001@news.tiac.net>

In article <b71f73eb.0107240923.82eaf2f@posting.google.com>,
modemac@modemac.com (Modemac) wrote:

>"Col. Sphinx Drummond" <sphinx@subgenius.com> wrote in message
news:<3B5D6778.D5185920@subgenius.com>...
>> Modemac wrote:
>> I'm confused by goal orientation. Do SubGenii set goals?
>
>Depends on which team is projected to win, and how much the odds are
>with the Vegas bookies.

GOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Had to say it.
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 9:16 AM
Message-ID: <250720010916598715%stang@subgenius.com>

In article <Xns90E8C74DF9758CortezLegume18465086@24.12.106.199>, Legume
<none@yerbiz.com> wrote:

> Modemac wrote:

>
> > Maybe THEN those goddamn saucers will
> > show up!
>
> And maybe monkeys will fly out of Stang's butt.

!!! I had been WONDERING how to get those fuckers out.

Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 9:20 AM
Message-ID: <250720010920301385%stang@subgenius.com>

In article <bear-ya02408000R2407012101150001@news.direct.ca>, polar
bear <bear@pole.com> wrote:

>
> Why not just move X-day to Burning Man? Set up across the road, so to
> speak, and convert the bobless pagans.

We did indeed think about that. Couldn't decide between calling it
"Warm Boy" or "Naked Woman".

For me, Brushwood is hella
> difficult, which is why you never see me there. I'm sure other
> left-coasters feel the same. On the other hand, I'd be more than happy to
> rent a honking big Winnie and drive Vancouver and Seattle subs to BM, as
> long as I knew the clan was gathering. (I tire of pagans - we got too many
> here as it is)
>
> Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big - like a
> DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!

I dunno HOW big, but there's an airfield within eyeshot of the fest,
and we saw stunt pilots doing tricks overhead and then landing over
there several times.

Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 9:50 AM
Message-ID: <250720010650302696%lilith@ZubJenius.com>

In article <tlq9qvdipfsk44@corp.supernews.com>, illuminatrix
<dhazel@fnord.friend.ly.net> wrote:

> to strive for any less than full planetary saturation is to admit that our
> entire way of life is a sham.
> or something.

HE'S RIGHT. I think.

Her Ladyship Lilith

Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 9:53 AM
Message-ID: <250720010653444412%lilith@ZubJenius.com>

In article <Xns90E8C74DF9758CortezLegume18465086@24.12.106.199>, Legume
<none@yerbiz.com> wrote:

> Modemac wrote:
> >I'm
> > still more interested in putting some effort into making X-Day the
> > festival it DESERVES to be.
>
> "Effort". In a church dedicated to slack, you want to use "effort" to make
> X-Day better.
>
> You're the kind of guy who'd rape a comatose woman at GUNPOINT.

Worse--Modemac will trick some poor sucker into putting effort into
X-Day FOR him. Should be a hoot to watch.

"If you want your fireworks back, come with me."

Her Ladyship Lilith

Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: Lilith von Fraumench <lilith@ZubJenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 9:59 AM
Message-ID: <250720010659526621%lilith@ZubJenius.com>

In article <bear-ya02408000R2407012101150001@news.direct.ca>, polar
bear <bear@pole.com> wrote:

> Why not just move X-day to Burning Man? Set up across the road, so to
> speak, and convert the bobless pagans. For me, Brushwood is hella
> difficult, which is why you never see me there. I'm sure other
> left-coasters feel the same.

http://ssucc.ragnarokr.com/longmarch.html

> On the other hand, I'd be more than happy to
> rent a honking big Winnie and drive Vancouver and Seattle subs to BM, as
> long as I knew the clan was gathering. (I tire of pagans - we got too many
> here as it is)

We Seattle SubGenii are discussing renting an RV for X-Day. You should
check with us in January or February to see how that's panning out.

> Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big - like a
> DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!

If you ignore a few pesky tents scattered across the "runway" and don't
mind a few trees here and there, sure.

Her Ladyship Lilith

Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: "kevbob" <kevbob@ecsis.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Jul 25, 2001 10:30 PM
Message-ID: <tluvn96loijs00@corp.supernews.com>

"polar bear" <bear@pole.com> wrote
> In article <tlsk5ka9joq28b@corp.supernews.com>, "kevbob"
<kevbob@ecsis.net>
> wrote:
> > "polar bear" <bear@pole.com> wrote
> > > Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big -
like
> > a
> > > DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!
> >
> > especially if it is on fire.
> >
> A fire no doubt caused by passengers fropping up with undue care and
> attention, since DC-3's are among the safest planes around.

i was thinking more like:

hey, let's set the plane on fire.

type of a thing.

but i guess your way works, too.

Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: bear@pole.com (polar bear)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2001 12:18 AM
Message-ID: <bear-ya02408000R2507012118380001@news.direct.ca>

In article <250720010920301385%stang@subgenius.com>, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
<stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

> In article <bear-ya02408000R2407012101150001@news.direct.ca>, polar
> bear <bear@pole.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why not just move X-day to Burning Man? Set up across the road, so to
> > speak, and convert the bobless pagans.
>
> We did indeed think about that. Couldn't decide between calling it
> "Warm Boy" or "Naked Woman".

How about Scorched Earth?
>
> >
> > Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big - like a
> > DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!
>
> I dunno HOW big, but there's an airfield within eyeshot of the fest,
> and we saw stunt pilots doing tricks overhead and then landing over
> there several times.
>
Too far! I want to roll right up with both engines full throttle and blow
everyone's tent away!

pb
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: bear@pole.com (polar bear)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2001 12:38 AM
Message-ID: <bear-ya02408000R2507012138280001@news.direct.ca>

In article <250720010659526621%lilith@ZubJenius.com>, Lilith von Fraumench
<lilith@ZubJenius.com> wrote:

> In article <bear-ya02408000R2407012101150001@news.direct.ca>, polar
> bear <bear@pole.com> wrote:
>
> > Why not just move X-day to Burning Man? Set up across the road, so to
> > speak, and convert the bobless pagans. For me, Brushwood is hella
> > difficult, which is why you never see me there. I'm sure other
> > left-coasters feel the same.
>
> http://ssucc.ragnarokr.com/longmarch.html

What sort of turn-out are you expecting? I might be able to make it, but
it's very tentative. I'm looking at changing jobs in the near future so
there could well be a conflict.
>
>
> We Seattle SubGenii are discussing renting an RV for X-Day. You should
> check with us in January or February to see how that's panning out.

I will. let's get the biggest unit money can buy - Tammy Wynette's tour
bus even! I have a commercial licence if you need a driver.
>
>
> > Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big - like a
> > DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!
>
> If you ignore a few pesky tents scattered across the "runway" and don't
> mind a few trees here and there, sure.
>
there are trees at burning man?

pb
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: bear@pole.com (polar bear)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2001 1:36 AM
Message-ID: <bear-ya02408000R2507012236060001@news.direct.ca>

In article <tluvn96loijs00@corp.supernews.com>, "kevbob" <kevbob@ecsis.net>
wrote:

> "polar bear" <bear@pole.com> wrote
> > In article <tlsk5ka9joq28b@corp.supernews.com>, "kevbob"
> <kevbob@ecsis.net>
> > wrote:
> > > "polar bear" <bear@pole.com> wrote
> > > > Incidently, is it possible to land a plane down there? I mean big -
> like
> > > a
> > > > DC-3? Talk about an entrance! The plane! The plane!
> > >
> > > especially if it is on fire.
> > >
> > A fire no doubt caused by passengers fropping up with undue care and
> > attention, since DC-3's are among the safest planes around.
>
> i was thinking more like:
>
> hey, let's set the plane on fire.
>
> type of a thing.
>
> but i guess your way works, too.
>
sigh... the only aircraft in the Dobbs Aviation fleet worth saving and you
want to TORCH IT! What's gotten into you kevbob? Burn Stang's Concord if
you must, but that 3 is the only way into (or out of) Dobbstown Malaysia.
Try landing a Boeing on a bamboo runway bub. I guarantee... you'll only do
it once.

pb
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Subject: Re: Burning Man
From: SubGenius Spice <SubGeniusSpice@rot13.ngg.arg>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2001 2:31 AM
Message-ID: <86evlt4tfona4op2v1v796rf7lqi7374fl@4ax.com>

Sister Decadence <decadence@subgenius.com> traded 52 magic beans for
this:

>On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:14:00 -0700, Lilith von Fraumench
><lilith@ZubJenius.com> wrote:

>>I convinced one to come this year. Next year, I'm working on bringing
>>the entire Seattle clench, or at least enough to rent an RV. (It was
>>their idea in the first place.) And I know the one who came, St. Bevo
>>Youngblood, will be bringing his S.O. with him.
>
> Okay, where are yougoing to FIT an RV?

it'd prolly fit in the pool.

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