5X Day!

From: "Reverend Sinphaltimus Exmortus" <RevSExmortus@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 22, 2001 6:30 PM

Speaking of which, WHEN ARE WE PARTYING?!?!?!

July 5th = Friday, I say BEFORE like previous years and AFTER like last...

Sincerely yours, forever Bob's,

The Reverend Sinphaltimus Exmortus
First Ever Digital Church of Mind Slack


From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>

July 4 to 7

SubGenii can start any time they like at Brushwood. The calendar will
list it as the weekend starting Friday July 5, but I'm sure most of us will
get there early, since there won't be anything THERE afterwards.


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"Alliekatt" <alleykatzen@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> Hey, I've noticed a disproportionately cool number of Red Reverends creeping
> out of the woodwork recently on this ng. I'm used to the highly traditional
> Oglala sweat ritual but it would be awesome to set up a pan-tribal REAL HOT
> HOT HOT FLAY THE CON OUTTA YA sweat instead of your average Pretentious
> Pagan la-la love steambath at Brushwood this year. I'm sure a lot of you
> know the prayer songs from your neck of the woods and maybe we can set up a
> trad structure (wood frame, tarps, 4 rounds, west entrance, pipe keeper,
> drum and horn/bucket, mound, flags, sage, sweetgrass, juniper, tobacco ties,
> no caffeine/drinking 48 hours before) but mixed gender. I don't know. It's
> been a long time since I went to a great sweat. We don't have much going on
> around here and pagan steambaths don't do much for me. It would be an
> absolute thrill to sweat with a bunch of totally turned-on Subgenius
> original americans and sweat-capable Subgenii.
> Just an idea. Email me personally if you're interested and perhaps
> interested in being the song leader(s) or bringing stuff. If enough of
> are interested I can talk to Brushwood.
> alliekatt
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Subject: Re: 5X day sweat.
From: Modemac <modemac@modemac.com>

-on Subgenius
>original americans and sweat-capable Subgenii.

Considering what the guys and girls in this Church are like, the smell
alone would drive the pagans away for 48 hours, at least. I'm for it.

First Online Church of "Bob"

From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>

*WOMEN*?!?!?!?! In the SWEAT LODGE?!?!?!?!


Surely Wakan Tanka will send tornadoes and storms to prevent this


Subject: Re: 5X day sweat.
From: "Alliekatt" <alleykatzen@hotmail.com>

"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> wrote in message

> *WOMEN*?!?!?!?! In the SWEAT LODGE?!?!?!?!

mm, nah, just changed a little...

> Surely Wakan Tanka will send tornadoes and storms to prevent this
> blasphemy.

Heh heh- well, what's funny is, the Lakota pipekeeper who ran the last run
of lodge ceremonies I attended, had been given authority from the
pipekeepers on the Rez to bring in women to ceremonies, due to the great
need for "healing of the nations". So nowadays, women participate in
ceremonies, and it's really cool. Everyone gathers wood, women usually make
the food and the flags/tobacco ties, and the fellers build the fire, cut the
wood and handle the rocks. (which they can have, by the way. Women can cut
wood if we want to but usually we get out of that nasty job by cooking.)
It's really neat to participate and make it a group effort.

A century ago and more, women had their own mysteries, medicine lodges and
sweats, for good reason. They still do, but when it comes to the need for
greater visibility in western culture, and when pipekeepers are acting as
missionaries, it's a good idea to make things more inclusive if still


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