From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
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Date: Sat, Nov 3, 2001 11:37 AM
My, my. The deeper you go the nastier it gets.
http://www.copvcia.com/stories/nov_2001/lucy.html
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Subject: Re: The CONspiracy. An Update.
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
This is one of the more interesting websites I have seen.
Ever.
I am so glad, now, that I used to think all this conspiracy
stuff was a
joke, then.
Yikes, Shit, the Fucking God Damn Fuck.
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Haha! I was just "trolling" and kidding! I
really still think it's all
just a big funny joke! Really! Those conspiracy buffs
and kooks! What a
bunch of cards. Those whacky knuckleheads.
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Subject: Re: The CONspiracy. An Update.
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Here's the text from this whacky, knucklehead conspiracy-buff
"kook
website"! Boy howdy, these kooks sure are funny
to us Subgeniuses! Ha
ha! I think this article is such a hilarious satire.
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IF CIA AND THE GOVERNMENT WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE SEPTEMBER
11 ATTACKS
WHAT WERE THEY DOING?
From The Wilderness Publications - www.copvcia.com
http://www.copvcia.com/stories/nov_2001/lucy.html
"Oh Lucy! - You Gotta Lotta 'Splainin To Do"
Bin Laden Met with the CIA in July and Walked Away
by
Michael C. Ruppert
[© COPYRIGHT 2001, All Rights Reserved, Michael
C. Ruppert and From The
Wilderness Publications, www.copvcia.com. May be copied
and distributed
for non-profit purposes only.]
FTW, November 2, 2001 - 1200 PST -- On October 31, the
French daily Le
Figaro dropped a bombshell. While in a Dubai hospital
receiving
treatment for a chronic kidney infection last July,
Osama bin Laden met
with a top CIA official - presumably the Chief of Station.
The meeting,
held in bin Laden's private suite, took place at the
American hospital
in Dubai at a time when he was a wanted fugitive for
the bombings of
two U.S. embassies and this year's attack on the U.S.S.
Cole. Bin Laden
was eligible for execution according to a 2000 intelligence
finding
issued by President Bill Clinton before leaving office
in January. Yet
on July 14th he was allowed to leave Dubai on a private
jet and there
were no Navy fighters waiting to force him down.
In 1985 Oliver North - the only member of the Reagan-Bush
years who
doesn't appear to have a hand in the current war - sent
the Navy and
commandos after terrorists on the cruise ship Achille
Lauro. In his
1991 autobiography "Under Fire," while describing
terrorist Abu Abbas,
North wrote, "I used to wonder: how many dead Americans
will it take
before we do something?" One could look at the
number of Americans
Osama bin Laden is alleged to have killed before September
11 and ask
the same question.
It gets worse, much worse. A more complete timeline
listing crucial
events both before and after the September 11th suicide
attacks, which
have been blamed on bin Laden, establishes CIA foreknowledge
of them
and strongly suggests that there was criminal complicity
on the part of
the U.S. government in their execution. It also makes
clear that the
events which have taken place since September 11th are
based upon an
agenda that has little to do with the attacks.
One wonders how these events could have been ignored
by the major media
or treated as isolated incidents. Failing that, how
could skilled news
agencies avoid being outraged, or at least even just
a little
suspicious?
1. 1998 and 2000 - Former President George H.W. Bush
travels to Saudi
Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group,
the 11th largest
defense contractor in the U.S. While there he meets
privately with the
Saudi royal family and the bin Laden family. [Source:
Wall Street
Journal, Sept. 27, 2001. See also FTW, Vol. IV, No 7
- "The Best
Enemies Money Can Buy," - http://www.copvcia.com/members/carlyle.html.
]
2. Feb 13, 2001 - UPI Terrorism Correspondent Richard
Sale - while
covering a trial of bin Laden's Al Q'aeda followers
- reports that the
National Security Agency has broken bin Laden's encrypted
communications. Even if this indicates that bin Laden
changed systems
in February it does not mesh with the fact that the
government insists
that the attacks had been planned for years.
3. May 2001 - Secretary of State Colin Powell gives
$43 million in aid
to the Taliban regime, purportedly to assist hungry
farmers who are
starving since the destruction of their opium crop in
January on orders
of the Taliban regime. [Source: The Los Angeles Times,
May 22, 2001].
4. May, 2001 - Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage,
a career
covert operative and former Navy Seal, travels to India
on a publicized
tour while CIA Director George Tenet makes a quiet visit
to Pakistan to
meet with Pakistani leader General Pervez Musharraf.
Armitage has long
and deep Pakistani intelligence connections and he is
the recipient of
the highest civil decoration awarded by Pakistan. It
would be
reasonable to assume that while in Islamabad, Tenet,
in what was
described as "an unusually long meeting,"
also met with his Pakistani
counterpart, Lt. General Mahmud Ahmad, head of the ISI.
[Source The
Indian SAPRA news agency, May 22, 2001.]
5. July, 2001 - Three American officials: Tom Simmons
(former U.S.
Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Assistant
Secretary of
State for South Asian affairs) and Lee Coldren (former
State Department
expert on South Asia), meet with Taliban representatives
in Berlin and
tell them that the U.S. is planning military strikes
against
Afghanistan in October. Also present are Russian and
German
intelligence officers who confirm the threat. [Source:
The Guardian,
September 22, 2001; the BBC, September 18, 2001.]
6. Summer 2001 - According to a Sept. 26 story in Britain's
The
Guardian, correspondent David Leigh reported that, "U.S.
department of
defense official, Dr. Jeffrey Starr, visited Tajikistan
in January. The
Guardian's Felicity Lawrence established that US Rangers
were also
training special troops in Kyrgyzstan. There were unconfirmed
reports
that Tajik and Uzbek special troops were training in
Alaska and
Montana."
7. Summer 2001 (est.) - Pakistani ISI Chief General
Mahmud (see above)
orders an aide to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammed
Atta, who was
according to the FBI, the lead terrorist in the suicide
hijackings.
Mahmud recently resigned after the transfer was disclosed
in India and
confirmed by the FBI. [Source: The Times of India, October
11, 2001.]
8. June 2001 - German intelligence, the BND, warns the
CIA and Israel
that Middle Eastern terrorists are "planning to
hijack commercial
aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols
of American and
Israeli culture." [Source: Frankfurter Allgemeine
Zeitung, September
14, 2001.]
9. Summer 2001 - An Iranian man phones U.S. law enforcement
to warn of
an imminent attack on the World Trade Center in the
week of September
9th. German police confirm the calls but state that
the U.S. Secret
Service would not reveal any further information. [Source:
German news
agency "online.ie", September 14, 2001.]
10. August 2001 - The FBI arrests an Islamic militant
linked to bin
Laden in Boston. French intelligence sources confirm
that the man is a
key member of bin Laden's network and the FBI learns
that he has been
taking flying lessons. At the time of his arrest the
man is in
possession of technical information on Boeing aircraft
and flight
manuals. [Source: Reuters, September 13.]
11. Summer 2001 - Russian intelligence notifies the
CIA that 25
terrorist pilots have been specifically training for
suicide missions.
This is reported in the Russian press and news stories
are translated
for FTW by a retired CIA officer.
12. July 4-14, 2001 - Osama bin Laden receives treatments
for kidney
disease at the American hospital in Dubai and meets
with a CIA official
who returns to CIA headquarters on July 15th. [Source:
Le Figaro,
October 31st, 2001.]
13. August 2001 - Russian President Vladimir Putin
orders Russian
intelligence to warn the U.S. government "in the
strongest possible
terms" of imminent attacks on airports and government
buildings.
[Source: MS-NBC interview with Putin, September 15.]
14. August/September, 2001 - The Dow Jones Industrial
Average drops
nearly 900 points in the three weeks prior to the attack.
A major stock
market crash is imminent.
15. Sept. 3-10, 2001 - MS-NBC reports on September
16 that a caller
to a Cayman Islands radio talk show gave several warnings
of an
imminent attack on the U.S. by bin Laden in the week
prior to 9/11.
16. September 1-10, 2001 - 25,000 British troops and
the largest
British Armada since the Falkland Islands War, part
of Operation
"Essential Harvest," are pre-positioned in
Oman, the closest point on
the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan. At the same time
two U.S. carrier
battle groups arrive on station in the Gulf of Arabia
just off the
Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000
U.S. troops join
more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation
"Bright Star." All
of these forces are in place before the first plane
hits the World
Trade Center. [Sources: The Guardian, CNN, FOX, The
Observer,
International Law Professor Francis Boyle, the University
of Illinois.]
17. September 6-7, 2001 - 4,744 put options (a speculation
that the
stock will go down) are purchased on United Air Lines
stock as opposed
to only 396 call options (speculation that the stock
will go up). This
is a dramatic and abnormal increase in sales of put
options. Many of
the UAL puts are purchased through Deutschebank/AB Brown,
a firm
managed until 1998 by the current Executive Director
of the CIA, A.B.
"Buzzy" Krongard. [Source: The Herzliyya International
Policy Institute
for Counterterrorism, http://www.ict.org.il/, September
21; The New
York Times; The Wall Street Journal.]
18. September 10, 2001 - 4,516 put options are purchased
on American
Airlines as compared to 748 call options. [Source: ICT
- above]
19. September 6-11, 2001 - No other airlines show
any similar trading
patterns to those experienced by UAL and American. The
put option
purchases on both airlines were 600% above normal. This
at a time when
Reuters (September 10) issues a business report stating,
"Airline
stocks may be poised to take off."
20. September 6-10, 2001 - Highly abnormal levels
of put options are
purchased in Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re(insurance)
which
owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re. All of
these companies
are directly impacted by the September 11 attacks. [Source:
ICT, above;
FTW, Vol. IV, No.7, October 18, 2001,
http://www.copvcia.com/members/oct152001.html. ]
21. It has been documented that the CIA, the Israeli
Mossad and many
other intelligence agencies monitor stock trading in
real time using
highly advanced programs reported to be descended from
Promis software.
This is to alert national intelligence services of just
such kinds of
attacks. Promis was reported, as recently as June, 2001
to be in Osama
bin Laden's possession and, as a result of recent stories
by FOX, both
the FBI and the Justice Department have confirmed its
use for U.S.
intelligence gathering through at least this summer.
This would confirm
that CIA had additional advance warning of imminent
attacks. [Sources:
The Washington Times, June 15, 2001; FOX News, October
16, 2001; FTW,
October 26, 2001, - http://www.copvcia.com/members/magic_carpet.html;
FTW, Vol. IV, No.6, Sept. 18, 2001 -
http://www.copvcia.com/members/sept1801.html; FTW, Vol.
3, No 7,
9/30/00 - www.copvcia.com/stories/may_2001/052401_promis.html.
22. September 11, 2001 - Gen Mahmud of the ISI (see
above), friend of
Mohammed Atta, is visiting Washington on behalf of the
Taliban.
[Source: MS-NBC, Oct. 7.]
23. September 11, 2001, For 35 minutes, from 8:15
AM until 9:05 AM,
with it widely known within the FAA and the military
that four planes
have been simultaneously hijacked and taken off course,
no one notifies
the President of the United States. It is not until
9:30 that any Air
Force planes are scrambled to intercept, but by then
it is too late.
This means that the National Command Authority waited
for 75 minutes
before scrambling aircraft, even though it was known
that four
simultaneous hijackings had occurred - an event that
has never happened
in history. [Sources: CNN, ABC, MS-NBC, The Los Angeles
Times, The New
York Times.]
24. September 13, 2001 - China is admitted to the
World Trade
Organization quickly, after 15 years of unsuccessful
attempts. [Source:
The New York Times, Sept. 30, 2001.]
25. September 15, 2001 - The New York Times reports
that Mayo
Shattuck III has resigned, effective immediately, as
head of the Alex
(A.B) Brown unit of Deutschebank.
26. September 29, 2001 - The San Francisco Chronicle
reports that
$2.5 million in put options on American Airlines and
United Airlines
are unclaimed. This is likely the result of the suspension
in trading
on the NYSE after the attacks which gave the Securities
and Exchange
Commission time to be waiting when the owners showed
up to redeem their
put options.
27. October 10, 2001 - The Pakistani newspaper The
Frontier Post
reports that U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain has paid
a call on the
Pakistani oil minister. A previously abandoned Unocal
pipeline from
Turkmenistan, across Afghanistan, to the Pakistani coast,
for the
purpose of selling oil and gas to China, is now back
on the table "in
view of recent geopolitical developments."
28. Mid October, 2001 - The Dow Jones Industrial Average,
after
having suffered a precipitous drop has recovered most
of its pre-attack
losses. Although still weak, and vulnerable to negative
earnings
reports, a crash has been averted by a massive infusion
of government
spending on defense programs, subsidies for "affected"
industries and
planned tax cuts for corporations.
Now, let's go back to the October 31 story by Le Figaro
- the one that
has Osama bin Laden meeting with a CIA officer in Dubai
this June.
The story says that, "Throughout his stay in the
hospital, Osama Bin
Laden received visits from many family members [There
goes the story
that he's a black sheep!] and Saudi Arabian Emirate
personalities of
status. During this time the local representative of
the CIA was seen
by many people taking the elevator and going to bin
Laden's room.
"Several days later the CIA officer bragged to
his friends about having
visited the Saudi millionaire. From authoritative sources,
this CIA
agent visited CIA headquarters on July 15tth, the day
after bin Laden's
departure for Quetta...
"According to various Arab diplomatic sources and
French intelligence
itself, precise information was communicated to the
CIA concerning
terrorist attacks aimed at American interests in the
world, including
its own territory."...
"Extremely bothered, they [American intelligence
officers in a meeting
with French intelligence officers] requested from their
French peers
exact details about the Algerian activists [connected
to bin Laden
through Dubai banking institutions], without explaining
the exact
nature of their inquiry. When asked the question, "What
do you fear in
the coming days?' the Americans responded with incomprehensible
silence."...
"On further investigation, the FBI discovered certain
plans that had
been put together between the CIA and its "Islamic
friends" over the
years. The meeting in Dubai is, so it would seem, consistent
with 'a
certain American policy.'"
Even though Le Figaro reported that it had confirmed
with hospital
staff that bin Laden had been there as reported, stories
printed on
November 1 contained quotes from hospital staff that
these reports were
untrue. On November 1, as reported by the Ananova press
agency, the CIA
flatly denied that any meeting between any CIA personnel
and Osama bin
Laden at any time.
In the most ironic twist of all, FTW has learned that
Le Figaro is
owned by the Carlyle Group, the American defense contractor
which
employs George Bush Sr., and which had as investors
- until they sold
their stake on October 26 - the bin Laden family.
Who do you believe? In coming stories FTW will prove
to you that this
war, which according to Dick Cheney, may not end in
out lifetimes, has
been in the works for at least four years.
Mike Ruppert
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Subject: Re: The CONspiracy. An Update.
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> Yikes, Shit, the Fucking God Damn Fuck.
>
Dear Reverend Stang,
Relax. Take a deep breath. Don't worry.
The CONspiracy has been around since time immemorial.
It is the link to our past. It made the Roman Empire
an empire, and destroyed it when it had passed its prime.
It made the Holy Roman Empire neither Holy, nor Roman,
nor an empire.
It created the dynasties of Chin, and caused the invaders
to come forth at frequent intervals to correct mutations
in the "Chinese Plan", slaughtering hundreds
of millions
of Chinese in the process. Business as usual for THE
CON.
It destroyed knowledge in the Dark Ages, just so it
could be purified, then recovered from the Musselmen,
stripped of the forbidden information that could have
led to the downfall of THE CON.
It permitted the rise of the European city states, and
funded the Renaissance, all in keeping with its master
plan. Twice it found it necessary to cull the herd
in
Europe with the "Black Death".
It started the Industrial Revolution, solely with the
intent of enhancing its power, its might and majesty.
The CON loves the Deux ex Machina, the machine god that
is their graven image to the horrific monster that they
worship. An ugly cuss that kinda looks like a giant
platypus, but with a head that's sort of a cross between
a crocodile, an emu, and an English bulldog. IT, the
pagan diety that they worship, is called something.
Choose you philosophy: Capitalism, Communism, Anarchy,
Vegetarianism, whatever: all are tools of the CONspiracy!
They are false choices, as are the religions: Xtianity,
Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shinto, whatever!
Give me an "-ism" and I will give you THE
CONSPIRACY.
Rationalism, Sensationalism, Journalism, Epicurianism,
ALL ARE TOOLS OF THE CON.
Even "Orgasm" has been co-opted! Okay, admittedly
an
"-asm", but my POINT STILL STANDS!
"-ism", "-asm", what do they have in common? "S" and "M"!
Yes, indeed, Sado-MasochISM is the ULTIMATE goal of
the
CONspiracy!
And THAT is why they want this WAR! It has absolutely
NOTHING TO DO with Terrorism OR Big Oil OR World Domination
OR Alien Invasion, and EVERYTHING to do with getting
YOUR
NIPPLES IN NIPPLE CLAMPS!
YES, dear Reverend! THAT IS WHAT THEY DEMAND. In fact,
that is ALL they demand. Not unreasonable, really.
Think
about it. They would stop this brutal butchery, this
reckless experiment with National Socialism, this endless
oil money grubbing and third world exploitation, IF
ONLY
WE WOULD LET THEM PUT OUR NIPPLES INTO CLAMPS.
Is that asking so much? Are our nipples SO PRECIOUS
that
we would allow the WORLD TO BE DESTROYED?
Shouldn't you just go out RIGHT NOW to one of the MASSIVE
GOVERNMENT NIPPLE CLAMP STORAGE WAREHOUSES AND DO YOUR
PART!? C'mon. You'll like it. Trust me.
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Subject: Re: The CONspiracy. An Update.
From: Artemia Salina <y2k@sheayright.com>
> Who do you believe? In coming stories FTW will
prove to you that this
> war, which according to Dick Cheney, may not end
in out lifetimes, has
> been in the works for at least four years.
>
> Mike Ruppert
In other words "believe me now, and I'll prove
it later... maybe."
Nice try, but no mudpuppy.
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