Just Ass Rape the Constitution!

From: iDRMRSR <alex.i.thymia@depression.org>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Nov 13, 2001 7:41 PM

Well, although I must admit that I am of the old school in thinking a
little less liberty in wartime is prolly OK, this article here completly
floored me:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/bush_terror011113.html

We're days away from summary execution w/o hearing, IMHO. My only hope
is to be able to volunteer as citizen-executioner. Or, as they will
prolly call it, "retirement counselor".

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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack

I wonder if Tom Ridge is the "Boy from Brazil"?
--He *was* born on August 26, 1945--

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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>

Let us review:

1) The Bush family were in real tight with the Nazis.
2) Ridge has complemented the Nazis and Mussolini.
3) National Socialism was a philosophy, one which many
Americans embraced.
4) Many kept their philosophy through WWII and after,
with the idea of resurrecting its ideas.
5) So now, with the new "executive orders" in place,
what *else* has to be changed to make America a
truly "fascist" country? Bear in mind that there
are two kinds of fascism, the "real" National
Socialist philosophy; and a mutant form of
militaristic fanaticism that appeals to neo-Nazis.

What happens next?

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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: iDRMRSR <alex.i.thymia@depression.org>

To tell the truth, I don't see anybody indoctrinating the youth yet.
That's a real key to any kind of fanaticism. Also armbands. And hats!
And those leather things that cross over your shoulders but don't really
hold anything up but keep your tits in line sort of.

Although, come to think of it, Old Glory seems to have assumed plenty of
visual acreage in the last two months. If history repeats itself, why,
within two or three generations we may find the American flag is banned
as a symbol of some kind of neo-fascism by the offspring of whatever
group we try to eliminate from the planet (but don't actually wipe
out). That IS how it all started, isn't it?

What saying will we put above the entrance to our concentration camps?
Shopping macht Frei?

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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>

Close. I would use the current fad, like

"Pokemon Macht Frei"
or
"Britney Macht Frei"

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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: thereheis99@hotmail.com (Rev. Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2001 10:33 AM
Message-ID: <129b702.0111140733.2419c566@posting.google.com>

nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com> wrote in message news:<3BF1D0E7.6B38@succeeds.com>...

> What happens next?

Torchlight rallies in the Superdome? Boy Scouts to be replaced with
new "Rumsfeld Youth" program? SubGenii *forced* to wear Dobbshead
patch when appearing in public?

You won't laugh when you're cut in half....

-C
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: andreux <andreux@eterna.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2001 10:57 AM

iDRMRSR <alex.i.thymia@depression.org> wrote in
news:58206152DF7D0391.0A65E1006E1503DD.651D9FBD4C49C127@lp.airnews.net:

> nu-monet:
>>>What happens next?
>
> To tell the truth, I don't see anybody indoctrinating the youth yet.

"It takes a village to raise a child."

> That's a real key to any kind of fanaticism. Also armbands. And hats!

And national ID cards.

> Although, come to think of it, Old Glory seems to have assumed plenty of
> visual acreage in the last two months. If history repeats itself, why,
> within two or three generations we may find the American flag is banned
> as a symbol of some kind of neo-fascism by the offspring of whatever
> group we try to eliminate from the planet (but don't actually wipe
> out). That IS how it all started, isn't it?

www.williamcooper.com

> What saying will we put above the entrance to our concentration camps?
> Shopping macht Frei?

Most Americans don't understand German.

The media will translate it for us, though:

We must listen to our president and not
fear the terrorists. We must show that we
are strong Americans and spend this upcoming
holiday season in order to pull ourselves out
of this economic depression.

Kind of a longwinded way of saying
"shopping will make us free".

-andreux
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack

Rev. Crawford wrote:
>
> Torchlight rallies in the Superdome?

Would you rather see Whitney Houston sing the
National Anthem again?

> Boy Scouts to be replaced with new "Rumsfeld
> Youth" program?

Think they would finally let in homosexuals?

> SubGenii *forced* to wear Dobbshead
> patch when appearing in public?

Would they get pissed off if you put the patch
on over your crotch? What about butt cheeks?

> You won't laugh when you're cut in half....

Now, you can't say that for sure. What if you
are cut in an angle, so like in a cartoon, your
top half just slips down and falls off your
bottom half? Or what if your legs go running
off in a different direction, leaving your torso
just hanging there in mid-air? Now THAT'S funny!

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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: Artemia Salina <y2k@sheayright.com>

nu-monet wrote:

> What happens next?

Snuffelufogus character on Sesame Street to be replaced by
"Stufflebeam, the Anti-terrorist Penguin."

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Artemia Salina -- http://www.drpez.com/drali1.htm
Polleniferous Demisability Diplomatically Foretastes Amissible Natron!!! -- see page 74

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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: "St. Marc the Perpetually Amused" <disciple@templeoferis.org>

"andreux" <andreux@eterna.net> wrote in message
>
> > nu-monet:
> >>>What happens next?
> >
> > To tell the truth, I don't see anybody indoctrinating the youth yet.
>
> "It takes a village to raise a child."

Between DARE, Sensitivity Training, and anti-gun, anti-rights teaching both
explicit and implied, I'd say our youth are being indoctrinated quite well,
thank you. If it wasn't for Hollywood glorification of violence and sex,
we'd be much further along the route to pussification than we are already.

St. Marc
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: monsterwax@aol.com (Monsterwax)
Newsgroups: alt.slack

Not to throw a blanket on the fun, but this new executive order and the
military trials only apply to non-citizens. They aren't protected by the
Constitution and shouldn't be, especially during war time. Amazing the news
article left out that little detail. I suspect they wanted to get everyone up
in arms.

If we don't stop the terrorism and fast, the con WILL use it to justify far
worse things. My way of thinking is take away the privilages from the ones who
shouldn't have it in the first place-- the non tax paying illegals. Then the
green card holders and non-citizens lose privilages long before citizens. The
citizens should only lose consitutional privilages as an absolute last resort,
and then, only by both houses of Congress.

If we fight every little change they propose with knee-jerk reactionary
protests, the terrorism will continue and the end result will be far worse than
and inconvenience a lot more people than just the non-citizens. Let's be honest
with one another: If Gore were President, they 2nd ammendment would be gone by
now. So things COULD be worse... (though I admit, NOT BY MUCH!)
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Nov 16, 2001 12:04 AM

>>If we fight every little change they propose with knee-jerk reactionary
protests<<

That's as far as I needed to read.

"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong"
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: Arbane the Terrible <arbane@home.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: arbane@home.com
Date: Fri, Nov 16, 2001 3:46 AM

Monsterwax wrote:

> If we don't stop the terrorism and fast, the con WILL use it to justify
> far worse things.

We're doomed, then.
How in the 104 Unpronouncable Names of G'BroagFran do you expect them to
STOP 'the terrorists'? They're spread out all over the world, they dont
have a real headquarters or a government, and they surely aren't idiotic
enough to wear _uniforms_. They consist of every poor person on the PLANET
with a murderous grudge against 'America', and thanks to Our Gummit's
ham-fisted approach to world affairs, the are legion.

> The citizens should only lose consitutional
> privilages as an absolute last resort, and then, only by both houses of
> Congress.

How about _you_ lose 'em, and we line the bastards up and shoot 'em for
high treason?

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"Remember,the plural of 'moron' is 'focus group'."
-- James A. Wolf
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: sockfumes@freeGrunt.com (meat balloon)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Nov 16, 2001 10:35 AM
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iDRMRSR <alex.i.thymia@depression.org> wrote:

>nu-monet:
>>>What happens next?
>
>To tell the truth, I don't see anybody indoctrinating the youth yet.

you gotta be shitting us.
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: monsterwax@aol.com (Monsterwax)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Nov 16, 2001 11:50 AM

<<We're doomed, then.
How in the 104 Unpronouncable Names of G'BroagFran do you expect them to
STOP 'the terrorists'? They're spread out all over the world, they dont
have a real headquarters or a government, and they surely aren't idiotic
enough to wear _uniforms_. >>

Actually, they are doomed because they don't understand the IMPORTANCE of good
uniforms! Clothes make the man, not towel heads...

But seriously, it's easy and fun to attack any new restrictions that go into
effect as a result of this. (I certainly have done the same thing myself.) But
I realize like most folks that something has to be done. If you don't support
increasing restictions on illegals and non-citizens, then what do you support?
Increasing restrictions on everyone, including the vast majority of tax paying
citizens? Something has to be done. Keeping it on cruise control for another
decade is not an option. (I imagine a lot of the same people attacking the
administration for over reacting would instead attack them for not reacting
enough, if they followed the "implied advice" of earlier posts and just sat
back and hoped no further acts of terrorism occurred.)

I'm all for sarcasm. But there's a point where we have to be realistic. The
fact is those 5,000 people were killed by illegal and recent green card
carrying Arabs. In the history of the US, we've never encountered terrorist who
knowingly killed themselves for their cause. These non-natives are the first.
(Even Tim Mcveigh didn't stick around to be blown up in the Federal Building).
These weren't loose cannons, but soilders working in an orchestrated attack. It
won't stop because those dozen bastards are dead.

So given that someone HAS to do something, I prefer to see most the
restrictions placed on the group where most the culprits came from: Recent
immigrants. That may be very non-pc, but f*ck it. It's a fact. Better to
restrict those most likely to cause a repreat of the disaster and preserve the
constitution than to restrict everyone and start reducing the bill of rights.

It may not seem very nice or fair, but the bill of rights and other
constitutional protections do NOT apply to non-citizens. (Read it if you don't
believe me.) From that standpoint, this is a restrained response to a radical
problem. And before attacking it further, indicate what better solutions you
have to offer. Otherwise we should assume complainers would change nothing, or
would rather the new restictions effect all 280 million Americans. I don't
think too many people would agree either of those alternatives are better.
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: nu-monet <nothing@succeeds.com>

Monsterwax wrote:
>
>
> How in the 104 Unpronouncable Names of G'BroagFran
> do you expect them to STOP 'the terrorists'?

Maybe our hesitation comes from their declaring war
against a slogan. It has the same ring as "The War
On Drugs", or some commie country's "War On
Corruption". "Vietnamization"?

But lets take the first problem, "The War On Drugs."
It has every characteristic that "terrorism" has:
an international component, a domestic component,
lots of money and guns. The only difference is that
"terrorism" doesn't offer a product for sale.

Well, the US Government tried to wage "war" against
the foreign drug makers. It didn't work. So they
turned their attentions to something easier, the
"supporters" living in the US. You know the rest.

By now, the "War on Drugs" has become a joke. The
government keeps at it, despite any reasonable
argument to the contrary. It is insane. Perhaps
they want to end it, but they don't know how.

When will "The War On Terrorism" end? Really?
Give me a single thing that says we can live in peace,
no longer under threat more from our own government
than some foreign guy 10,000 miles away.

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"Yes--It is all about getting in touch with
your pelvic floor. All neurosis can be
reduced to lack of connection with the pelvic
floor!" --anonymous note
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: rlan538885@aol.comnobozos (RLan538885)

>It won't stop because those
>> dozen bastards are dead.

It won't stop because we threw away the Constitution either.

"100,000 lemmings can't be wrong"
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: Arbane the Terrible <arbane@home.com>

> I'm all for sarcasm. But there's a point where we have to be realistic.
> The fact is those 5,000 people were killed by illegal and recent green
> card carrying Arabs. In the history of the US, we've never encountered
> terrorist who knowingly killed themselves for their cause. These
> non-natives are the first. (Even Tim Mcveigh didn't stick around to be
> blown up in the Federal Building). These weren't loose cannons, but
> soilders working in an orchestrated attack. It won't stop because those
> dozen bastards are dead.

Won't it? I haven't heard about any new suicide bombings (in the USA,
anyway--they're listed on the 'weather' page in Isreali newspapers).

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"Remember,the plural of 'moron' is 'focus group'."
-- James A. Wolf
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Subject: Re: For NU-monet - Just Ass rape the constitution!
From: monsterwax@aol.com (Monsterwax)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Nov 16, 2001 11:04 PM

<<Maybe not, but the Universal Declaration of Human Rights does.

Have you read it?>>

I couldn't give two sh*ts what that PC dogma says. I didn't vote for it and
neither did anyone I elected. Or that you elected or our ancestors elected for
that matter. That's part of the new world order b.s. The only document that
matters as far as our laws are concerned is the Constitution, and that does
NOT give the same rights to non-US citizens that we have. Try reading that
first and you'll see how rediculous this topic title is. The US constitution is
the foundation for all other laws in the US. The Universal Declaration of Human
Rights means nothing legally, not in this country or any other. It's just
touchy feely pie in the sky crap. UN bozos (appointees) pledging to think pure
thoughts. That's how they pass such resolutions, because they have no
compliance provisions. Otherwise China and Russia would veto them. Try
prosecuting someone for breaking it and you'll see what I mean. But maybe you
were being sarcastic. If so, it's funny indeed. Haw-haw!

A country's most basic right is it's right to protect and enforce its borders.
That includes deporting illegal immigrants (and visa jumpers) and preventing
the illegal acts those immigrants could commit. If they break the laws while
they are here, it's stupid to give them the same expensive time consuming legal
process we give our citizens, including costly public defenders, especially
during war when time could be a life or death issue.

Again, if you don't like the executive order, spell out what YOU would do
instead. All I hear is griping but no sensible alternatives. Bitching is easy.
Lets hear your bright ideas so we can pick them apart with the same sarcasm.
Silly "joke" responses will be taken to mean that you have no better "real"
ideas to offer.

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