Subject: Evil Eviloers Of Evil

From: "NeuroManson" <1llabruf@tsewq.ten>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2001 10:22 PM
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From sfgate.com:

This much is true: It really is possible to love your country and value your
freedoms and still believe the government is full of fools and prevaricators
and BS artists and Dick Cheney. Really.

It is still possible to feel warmly patriotic in personal and important ways
and yet believe the military and the generals and the war machine do not
have your best interests at heart and really couldn't care less what those
interests are anyway but thank you for sharing now please sit down and do as
we tell you and by the way, thanks for all the flags and the money.

And it is still possible to feel unified and spiritually connected to all
that is good and righteous about your generally nonviolent Americanism --
you know, wine and sex and good music, large dogs and literature and clean
water and tongue kissing in the streets -- and still be depressed when our
famously nonintellectual president talks to the country like we're all five
years old and heavily dosed on Ritalin.

When Bush employs phrases like "bring the evildoers to justice" over and
over, 17 times in one speech alone, and he furrows his brow like a serious
Muppet and offers carefully scripted reassurances deliberately lacking in
polysyllabism and detailed explanation because that would be, you know,
complicated.

When he repeats primitive little maxims like "There are no negotiations" and
responds to press-conference questions about the vitriolic anti-US hatred
that has blossomed around the globe by saying, "I'm amazed. I just can't
believe it because I know how good we are," thus causing a giant global
spasm of multinational cringing and openly insulting the intelligence of
anyone who can walk and breathe at the same time.

When he delivers very earnest speeches he had no part in writing, and when
he is forced to speak extemporaneously, sans script or TelePrompTer, and is
reduced to simplistic good-guy/bad-guy platitudes and flustered, rapid
blinking, and who cannot for the life of him articulate a complex idea, some
sort of nuanced elucidation of our nation's motives and positioning, that
contains more than one possible level of meaning.

But perhaps that's too harsh. Unfair. He's the president, after all. He is a
Good Man. He's our leader right now, he's doing his best and he's all we've
got. This is our rallying cry, our motto: He's all we've got. There's your
bumper sticker. And there he is.

Except for Cheney, which isn't exactly reassuring. No one has ever seen this
man's mouth actually move. No one can take one look at his oddly spiritless
and wan figure and not think, oh dear God, that man is running on fumes.
From a bunker. With ropes and pulleys.

But you're not supposed to. In fact, you really aren't allowed to criticize
the president or the veep right now, not supposed to feel strangely
leaderless and adrift, not permitted to look upon the events of the past
weeks with much wariness or bitterness or a disquieting sense that we're
setting things in motion that have no predictable outcome -- ugly,
subterranean, hateful things that could last years and will surely cost
billions and will deeply entrench the nation in a bizarre and poisonous
shell game with shadowy opponents of largely unknown capability and do you
hear that? That soft roaring? That's the sound of the GOP-stroked military
machine, quietly cheering.

Never mind the staggering multibillion-dollar political mess in Saudi Arabia
that fueled bin Laden's network for years, or the enormous oil fields that
are desperately vulnerable to terrorist attack at any moment. Never mind the
US government's outright rejection of new advancements in alternative fuels
to get us away from oil and out of the Gulf entirely.

Instead we get: Evildoers. Air strikes. Hundreds of dead civilians. Rumsfeld
denials. And Bush, squinting, saying things only small children and
GasMaskExpress.com shoppers find comforting and manly.

It is, Bush tells us, a war on terrorism. We will eradicate terrorism
through largely violent and aggressive means, because that is what we must
do and what we always do and everything else takes too damn long. We have to
do something. This is the common wisdom. Bush said so. Mr. Rumsfeld told him
so, with his black and shiny hawk eyes all a-glimmer. Disagree? You
traitorous whiner.

This war, it will be just like the War on Drugs. It will be potent and
effective and our objectives will be clear. The nation had a nasty drug
problem and we declared a war on drugs and spent billions over many years
and now you can't buy drugs anymore. It will be just like that.

There is more than one way to respond to the horror of Sept. 11. And there
is more than one kind of patriotism. We forget this. You do not have to
rally around Bush and tolerate Cheney's chthonic creepiness and wave a
frantic flag and believe every scripted half-truth that drizzles out of the
Pentagon, applaud the nonstop attacks on an already demolished nation.
Pro-America does not mean pro-war. Or pro-Bush. Or anti-Afghanistan. Or
pro-little-flags-on-SUV-antennas.

It means thinking independently and getting better informed and filtering
your news very carefully and realizing that just because one version of the
American aggro attitude is currently being ramrodded down society's throat
doesn't mean you have to swallow.

It means you don't have to find Tomahawk missiles really cool or think all
those tens of thousands of Europeans and Egyptians and world citizens
protesting the US bombings must be commie jerks, or feel sad and morally
depleted when you can't seem to draw any intellectual nourishment whatsoever
when Bush declaims, "Terrorists want us to stop our lives, stop our flying,
stop our buying. But this nation will not be intimidated by evildoers." You
don't have to buy into that infantile hokum for a moment.

After all, this is America.

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Subject: Re: Evil Eviloers Of Evil
From: König Prüß, GfbAEV <saurkraut@weinerschnitzle.com>

Good piece, I agree with it but it seems to leave out what a lot of people
are trying to deny: that there are people out there who want to kill YOU!

Not so much you personally, so don't get paranoid.

But I have to laugh at the people who think that Bush is doing what he's
doing because he wants to look good on election day, he's doing what he's
doing because there are people plenty pissed about stuff! And if we don't whack
them, they will whack us! You say that if we indiscriminately bomb them flat,
then we are no better than they are, and I say bullshit! They will be DEAD
and we will be alive, which is better because we can say Nenner, neener!
And they can't! So there.

We can hold the Afgans and Iraqi people responsible for not deposing their
rat-bastard leadership, just as they hold each of you civilian bastids responsible
for not demanding and getting non-Evil One-type of leadership here. It's tit for tat,
and I'm just damned glad America has the biggest tits.
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Subject: Re: Evil Eviloers Of Evil
From: "NeuroManson" <1llabruf@tsewq.ten>

I say they should just use daisy cutter bombs, drop them in ever decreasing
concentrical circles, til they're all nicely containe for the cleanup
troops, but that's just me, I ain't no general, just the lord high
executioner... Okay, his manservant... Okay, his janitor...

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Subject: Re: Evil Eviloers Of Evil
From: slaac@yahoo.com (Rev. Lemuel Atom)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2001 10:48 AM
Message-ID: <49b3655d.0111080748.77b9d53f@posting.google.com>

K?ig Pr?, GfbAEV <saurkraut@weinerschnitzle.com> wrote in message news:<hioG7.480$KV4.148444@nntp1.onemain.com>...

> But I have to laugh at the people who think that Bush is doing what he's
> doing because he wants to look good on election day, he's doing what he's
> doing because there are people plenty pissed about stuff! And if we don't whack
> them, they will whack us! You say that if we indiscriminately bomb them flat,
> then we are no better than they are, and I say bullshit! They will be DEAD
> and we will be alive, which is better because we can say Nenner, neener!
> And they can't! So there.

Um, so yer saying that if we drop enough bombs on Afghani rubble
piles, all of the evildoers will go away, and there will never be
terrorism anymore, and everything will be shiny and snuggly, right?
Shit, kid, when yez get to junior high, you'll learn the world doesn't
work THAT simply. But in the meantime, enjoy your lollipop, sucker.

Neener, neener, indeed.

RLA

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Subject: Re: Evil Eviloers Of Evil
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>

In article <nmyG7.4671$XJ4.2715986@news1.sttln1.wa.home.com>,
NeuroManson <1llabruf@tsewq.ten> wrote:

> Heh, wish I could write at all...
>
> >
> > Damnation I wish I could write that well .
> > >

Damnation, I wish I could sell what ya'll write!

Guess it's time to fill up the SubSITE war pages with new war poop.
GREAT rant there by NeuroManson. Whoever the hell you are. Don't tell
me; that way They won't be able to get it out of me.

It looks to me like the Evildoers of Evil already won a long time ago;
but there are rival sub-Evildoers fighting over who gets to plan Future
Evil. I'm on the Evildoer "Bob's" side. I was born a slave to the
Western Civilization Evildoers, however, so my pretend "loyalty" is to
those masters rather than their rivals in EastAsia, NearEastia, and
Middle-Earia. For I fear my present masters in a much more immediate
way.

And this cynical shit from a guy who makes his living doing Church of
the SubGenius stuff! "Paid" to bitch about the system that pays him!

"Bob" was right when he said, "It's gona be a bummer, man."

He was even more right when he said, "Anything that makes it harder to
pee is AntiSlack." So I'm gonna go pee.

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Subject: Re: Evil Eviloers Of Evil
From: lyonderboy666@hotmail.com (Anti Pope Lupus of SI)

"Ricky Nielsen" <rickyn@lor.net> wrote in message news:<P0wG7.85$ui7.26838136@news2.randori.com>...

> >
> This much is true: It really is possible to love your country and value
> your freedoms and still believe the government is full of fools and
> prevaricators and BS artists and Dick Cheney. Really.

I'm with you. I don't like most people's definition of the word
"patriotic" because, by definition, the concept is very subjective.

Our yeti forefathers: were they partiotic or traitors? Because if
they were "patriotic" the way people define it today, we'd still be
British here in the USA. In fact, there'd be no USA.

Speaking out against unfavorable situations in this country is the
heart of what patriotism should all be about. That's how it came
about. A bunch of people got together and said, "This sucks, let's do
something better."

They were told, "Love it or leave it." They said, "How about we do
neither." People have a hard time grasping this.

Because for every great new idea, there's a new generation ready to
bend-fuck it into something horrible.

-APLY
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Subject: Re: Evil Eviloers Of Evil
From: "NeuroManson" <1llabruf@tsewq.ten>

The author was Mark Morford, SF Gate columnist...


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