Subject: Jimbo's X-Day Photos

From: JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2007 9:26 PM
Message-ID: <1184117185.626672.134090@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/

Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Modemac <modemac@modemac.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2007 9:52 PM
Message-ID: <btd893d12rm6rnesrh5d6c46ilt2r5gmgv@4ax.com>

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:26:25 -0000, JimboDeLimbo
<JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com> wrote:
>Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.

So post 'em to alt.binaries.slack! Make one big .zip file and post it
there.

--
The High Weirdness Project
http://www.modemac.com

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2007 10:39 PM
Message-ID: <1184121590.677647.13300@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 10, 9:52 pm, Modemac <mode...@modemac.com> wrote:
> So post 'em to alt.binaries.slack! Make one big .zip file and post it
> there.

Working on it, I've spent basically the whole day trying to get
through to my ISP.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "john smith" <this@tahat.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 1:07 AM
Message-ID: <4695b6f4$0$4648$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>

Hey Jimbo!
Thanks for all the SLACK and photos!
It was a great pleasure to have met you and I hope to see you next year too.
KEEP YOUR CHIN UP.
Rev. Teeters LaVerge
"JimboDeLimbo" <JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1184117185.626672.134090@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
>

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: scalpod <scalpod@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 6:19 AM
Message-ID: <1184235545.868474.327030@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.

Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
year, "Bob" willing?

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 7:44 AM
Message-ID: <1184240652.417110.202210@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 6:19 am, scalpod <scal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> > Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
>
> Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
> year, "Bob" willing?

Ahh, that remains to be seen. It does not appear to be in the cards,
although the same was true this year. Had it not been for my mutant
genes freaking out and giving a case of Reiter's Syndrome (arthritic
condition named after Hans Reiter, notorious Nazi physician) I
wouldn't have had the time available to make it this year. I'm a
little ambivalent about that, actually, but since I had no real say I
did the next best thing and got my annual Slack inoculation.
Kind of like "Bob" busting a hernia, but then later getting a sponge
bath from the sexy nurse.

So basically, if my body revolts again next year, or I get shot or
blown up before July 5th and survive, I'll be there.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:17 AM
Message-ID: <1184253438.341282.174970@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

"Bob" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's up to US. There ain't
gonna BE a next year unless we set up some committees and make
EVERYONE do one hour of Slack Barter work helping the old man with the
bad back!

Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
"Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
-- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
Stang."

The ones who DID help majorly -- Wei, Hal, Rev. Angry Larry, Rev.
Pickles, Rev. Maynard Brainard, Steve Scynic, Alan the Discordian,
Modemac -- and maybe even Rev. Chris Lee and a few others -- are the
only reason I would even CONSIDER doing this again. Just going to
Burning Man instead would be much cheaper for me in terms of back
pain, brain pain and heartbreak.

I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
MEAN IT!!

Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Pisces <KVanHall@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:32 PM
Message-ID: <1184257978.441178.267380@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 11:17 am, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <s...@subgenius.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 6:19 am, scalpod <scal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> > > Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
>
> > Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
> > year, "Bob" willing?
>
> "Bob" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's up to US. There ain't
> gonna BE a next year unless we set up some committees and make
> EVERYONE do one hour of Slack Barter work helping the old man with the
> bad back!
>
> Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> Stang."
>
> The ones who DID help majorly -- Wei, Hal, Rev. Angry Larry, Rev.
> Pickles, Rev. Maynard Brainard, Steve Scynic, Alan the Discordian,
> Modemac -- and maybe even Rev. Chris Lee and a few others -- are the
> only reason I would even CONSIDER doing this again. Just going to
> Burning Man instead would be much cheaper for me in terms of back
> pain, brain pain and heartbreak.
>
> I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> MEAN IT!!
>
> Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate

I will manage/delgate for stage.
-pisces

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Two Beans <two.beans.2b.removeme@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:39 PM
Message-ID: <57mc93p8v4hgi0e61nr4j6qcrjto5a68do@4ax.com>

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0700, "Rev. Ivan Stang"
<stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

>
>Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.
>

I can do camera work so long as I'm told what bottons do what. I can
also edit what was taken this year through Sony Vegas if desired.

-2B

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Ankara <uh-huh@somewhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 1:26 PM
Message-ID: <MPG.21002e3d84f633b69896c6@news.east.cox.net>

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
> On Jul 12, 6:19 am, scalpod <scal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
> >
> > > Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
> >
> > Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
> > year, "Bob" willing?
>
> "Bob" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's up to US. There ain't
> gonna BE a next year unless we set up some committees and make
> EVERYONE do one hour of Slack Barter work helping the old man with the
> bad back!
>
> Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> Stang."
>
> The ones who DID help majorly -- Wei, Hal, Rev. Angry Larry, Rev.
> Pickles, Rev. Maynard Brainard, Steve Scynic, Alan the Discordian,
> Modemac -- and maybe even Rev. Chris Lee and a few others -- are the
> only reason I would even CONSIDER doing this again. Just going to
> Burning Man instead would be much cheaper for me in terms of back
> pain, brain pain and heartbreak.
>
> I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> MEAN IT!!
>
> Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.

Wow, honestly I had no idea, but I prolly was never paying much
attention, to who needed help where.

Anyway, emergentile reporting for duty as requested.

-I am pretty good with a camera (when I remember all my equipment)
-am availible for heavy lifting

What we could do, if it's aggreeable would be to set up a sub-mailing
list now (taphouse mailserver could handle it) so we could get a list of
everyone who is willing, able, etc. so we can have an idea of both
exactly what we were working with yeti resource wise, and what exactly
needs to be done to maximize slack for not only you, the scribe, but
everyone else as well.

If you could, when you get a spare moment-(I know! unpossible!) write a
list of everything you would have wanted some help with, in as exacting
terms as possible, so we could know exactly how to proceed.

I know we are talking about subgenius's here, and this enterprise is
doomed, etc. but a lot of us still manage to get a lot of things done,
considering we are handicapped by an overwhelming urge to slack-off.

I will organize the mailing list, if and when, this meets with your
approval.

--
Ankara
Taphouse Cabal
http://taphouse.org/
There is no cabal.

"If you die in Canada, you die in real life!" -Zeppo

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Pisces <KVanHall@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 1:43 PM
Message-ID: <1184262237.063791.220720@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 1:26 pm, Ankara <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 12, 6:19 am, scalpod <scal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> > > > Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
>
> > > Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
> > > year, "Bob" willing?
>
> > "Bob" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's up to US. There ain't
> > gonna BE a next year unless we set up some committees and make
> > EVERYONE do one hour of Slack Barter work helping the old man with the
> > bad back!
>
> > Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> > definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> > have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> > We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> > have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> > by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> > "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> > If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> > bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> > still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> > -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> > Stang."
>
> > The ones who DID help majorly -- Wei, Hal, Rev. Angry Larry, Rev.
> > Pickles, Rev. Maynard Brainard, Steve Scynic, Alan the Discordian,
> > Modemac -- and maybe even Rev. Chris Lee and a few others -- are the
> > only reason I would even CONSIDER doing this again. Just going to
> > Burning Man instead would be much cheaper for me in terms of back
> > pain, brain pain and heartbreak.
>
> > I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> > five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> > MEAN IT!!
>
> > Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.
>
> Wow, honestly I had no idea, but I prolly was never paying much
> attention, to who needed help where.
>
> Anyway, emergentile reporting for duty as requested.
>
> -I am pretty good with a camera (when I remember all my equipment)
> -am availible for heavy lifting
>
> What we could do, if it's aggreeable would be to set up a sub-mailing
> list now (taphouse mailserver could handle it) so we could get a list of
> everyone who is willing, able, etc. so we can have an idea of both
> exactly what we were working with yeti resource wise, and what exactly
> needs to be done to maximize slack for not only you, the scribe, but
> everyone else as well.
>
> If you could, when you get a spare moment-(I know! unpossible!) write a
> list of everything you would have wanted some help with, in as exacting
> terms as possible, so we could know exactly how to proceed.
>
> I know we are talking about subgenius's here, and this enterprise is
> doomed, etc. but a lot of us still manage to get a lot of things done,
> considering we are handicapped by an overwhelming urge to slack-off.
>
> I will organize the mailing list, if and when, this meets with your
> approval.
>
> --
> Ankara
> Taphouse Cabalhttp://taphouse.org/
> There is no cabal.
>
> "If you die in Canada, you die in real life!" -Zeppo- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

This is a great idea...

Hooray for Taphouse. I am still willing to do managment like stuffs,
but a list of helpers would make that uber easy!

Ankara, you are a genius!

Let us all join our efforts to give stang a SLACKFUL xday!

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Back It On Up" <evielust@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 2:38 PM
Message-ID: <1184265488.487063.314340@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

Church Service!!!

I would be pleased to commit to something I'll forget about a year
from now, if it makes my best beloved cult leader happy even for a
moment. Tell me how I may be useful, and I will submit myself.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 5:37 PM
Message-ID: <1184276258.879242.230070@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 1:43 pm, Pisces <KVanH...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> This is a great idea...
>
> Hooray for Taphouse. I am still willing to do managment like stuffs,
> but a list of helpers would make that uber easy!
>
> Ankara, you are a genius!
>
> Let us all join our efforts to give stang a SLACKFUL xday!

Heh... you should hear what Princess Wei came up with in that
respect... an X-Day in which I don't have to do ANYTHING but rant and
be friendly!

HA!

It would make sense that a sexy Connietite might play Sacred BattleAxe
over a bunch of AV Geek boys... in fact that might actually WORK! (It
did when Nickie was our Employee Prime.) No AV geek wants to take
orders or suggestions from another AV geek like me, in fact they'll
subconsciously want to subvert everything, but they're TRAINED by
INSTINCT to hop-to when a sexy-voiced non-techharpy yells at them in
that gentle yet terrifying way that true Connietites have. It's a
holdover from high school.

Well anyway this is a start. I'm sorry I had to get all grumpy about
it but you should hear how grumpy I was to the walls of the Big House
on Saturday night! I'm surprised the structure is still standing.

Between Rev. Vaylor of Bonobo Convergence and Rev. Angry Larry of The
Amino Acids, we might be freed from dependence on Brushwood PA gear...
a lot of the problem Saturday night was due to zero prep or
communication about the basic P.A. stuff. We had everything working
fine until what wasn't broken was "fixed."

I am NOT a sound reinforcement expert! (Although I once wrote articles
on just that for professional sound engineer magazines!) I was never
in a band and my idea of devival audio is a mic plugged into a PA with
a tape recorder running somewhere nearby, hopefully mixing a live mic
with board sound, and another tape recorder supplying canned music.
Yet you'd be amazed how few "professional" club sound guys can provide
BOTH at the same time. The main reason we don't do devivals in
Cleveland at Beachland Ballroom is because their sound guys are more
apt to break my DVD players than to be able to run audio from them. If
it isn't bass-vocals-guitar-drums, those guys are LOST!

But let's not get into bar sound-man bashing. Mainly because I don't
have a big enough CROWBAR to THRASH them all with.

One big problem with "helping on X-Day" is that the MOST help is
needed during the most feverishly crazed times, such as Saturday night
when there are 5 bands, 3 videos, 300 ranters and a bonfire, because
that's when everybody WANTS to be MOST DRUNK! -- or high or whatnot.
This is perfectly understandable, but there have to be sacrifices. Or,
rather, the sacrifice of SOME brain cells must be curtailed by those
helping. The Merry Pranksters had the goal of being able to function
NORMALLY, WHILE TRIPPING. We don't have to worry about that because we
don't get such good acid. But lots of legal Conspiracy drugs like beer
and whiskey fuck you up more than acid could ever hope to... so the
SubGenius who wants to help must forsake that extra beer for the ONE
HOUR (or 5) during which he or she has promised to help. We don't
expect sobriety or high degrees of skill, but we do expect volunteers
to be able to FUNCTION and THINK ON THEIR FEET -- to, so to speak,
"read the instructions," as painful as that may be for so many.

I LIKE doing all that tech stuff! It's much easier for me than
schmoozing and being charming to actual live humans. I am naturally
shy and nerdly... I FORCE myself to be sociable. When I'm running a
camera, nobody can BUG me. But... ya can't have an X-Day without
dealing with dozens or hundreds of The Others, and I am feeling much
better about things just knowing that somebody understands the
situation I got myself into, and is willing to help make it less
excruciating!! I can now envision a time when it might not be
excruciating at all. Or HARDLY excruciating. A little excruciation, I
can handle.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Pisces <KVanHall@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 6:31 PM
Message-ID: <1184279515.627516.304840@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 5:37 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:

> It would make sense that a sexy Connietite might play Sacred BattleAxe
> over a bunch of AV Geek boys... in fact that might actually WORK! (It
> did when Nickie was our Employee Prime.) No AV geek wants to take
> orders or suggestions from another AV geek like me, in fact they'll
> subconsciously want to subvert everything, but they're TRAINED by
> INSTINCT to hop-to when a sexy-voiced non-techharpy yells at them in
> that gentle yet terrifying way that true Connietites have. It's a
> holdover from high school.

Indeed... I can be the Stage Bitch easy. I noticed Rev.Back it on Up
offered admin help, perhaps she could be Registration/Schwag Mama?
Between the two of us we can guide this clusterfuck of hydras (as
jimbo so described it) into a targeted system of Slack output.

So lets get that list rolling there Ankara! Rev.Back it on Up, Send me
an email! STANG... you go take a hot bath with some lavender oil and a
nice cold beer RIGHT NOW!

^_^

- pisces -

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Nuttar Buttar <nudder_budder@spamgmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 7:14 PM
Message-ID: <Czyli.10286$bz7.2582@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> On Jul 12, 1:43 pm, Pisces <KVanH...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a great idea...
>>
>> Hooray for Taphouse. I am still willing to do managment like stuffs,
>> but a list of helpers would make that uber easy!
>>
>> Ankara, you are a genius!
>>
>> Let us all join our efforts to give stang a SLACKFUL xday!
>
> Heh... you should hear what Princess Wei came up with in that
> respect... an X-Day in which I don't have to do ANYTHING but rant and
> be friendly!
>
> HA!
>
> It would make sense that a sexy Connietite might play Sacred BattleAxe
> over a bunch of AV Geek boys... in fact that might actually WORK! (It
> did when Nickie was our Employee Prime.) No AV geek wants to take
> orders or suggestions from another AV geek like me, in fact they'll
> subconsciously want to subvert everything, but they're TRAINED by
> INSTINCT to hop-to when a sexy-voiced non-techharpy yells at them in
> that gentle yet terrifying way that true Connietites have. It's a
> holdover from high school.
>
> Well anyway this is a start. I'm sorry I had to get all grumpy about
> it but you should hear how grumpy I was to the walls of the Big House
> on Saturday night! I'm surprised the structure is still standing.
>
> Between Rev. Vaylor of Bonobo Convergence and Rev. Angry Larry of The
> Amino Acids, we might be freed from dependence on Brushwood PA gear...
> a lot of the problem Saturday night was due to zero prep or
> communication about the basic P.A. stuff. We had everything working
> fine until what wasn't broken was "fixed."
>
> I am NOT a sound reinforcement expert! (Although I once wrote articles
> on just that for professional sound engineer magazines!) I was never
> in a band and my idea of devival audio is a mic plugged into a PA with
> a tape recorder running somewhere nearby, hopefully mixing a live mic
> with board sound, and another tape recorder supplying canned music.
> Yet you'd be amazed how few "professional" club sound guys can provide
> BOTH at the same time. The main reason we don't do devivals in
> Cleveland at Beachland Ballroom is because their sound guys are more
> apt to break my DVD players than to be able to run audio from them. If
> it isn't bass-vocals-guitar-drums, those guys are LOST!
>
> But let's not get into bar sound-man bashing. Mainly because I don't
> have a big enough CROWBAR to THRASH them all with.
>
> One big problem with "helping on X-Day" is that the MOST help is
> needed during the most feverishly crazed times, such as Saturday night
> when there are 5 bands, 3 videos, 300 ranters and a bonfire, because
> that's when everybody WANTS to be MOST DRUNK! -- or high or whatnot.
> This is perfectly understandable, but there have to be sacrifices. Or,
> rather, the sacrifice of SOME brain cells must be curtailed by those
> helping. The Merry Pranksters had the goal of being able to function
> NORMALLY, WHILE TRIPPING. We don't have to worry about that because we
> don't get such good acid. But lots of legal Conspiracy drugs like beer
> and whiskey fuck you up more than acid could ever hope to... so the
> SubGenius who wants to help must forsake that extra beer for the ONE
> HOUR (or 5) during which he or she has promised to help. We don't
> expect sobriety or high degrees of skill, but we do expect volunteers
> to be able to FUNCTION and THINK ON THEIR FEET -- to, so to speak,
> "read the instructions," as painful as that may be for so many.
>
> I LIKE doing all that tech stuff! It's much easier for me than
> schmoozing and being charming to actual live humans. I am naturally
> shy and nerdly... I FORCE myself to be sociable. When I'm running a
> camera, nobody can BUG me. But... ya can't have an X-Day without
> dealing with dozens or hundreds of The Others, and I am feeling much
> better about things just knowing that somebody understands the
> situation I got myself into, and is willing to help make it less
> excruciating!! I can now envision a time when it might not be
> excruciating at all. Or HARDLY excruciating. A little excruciation, I
> can handle.
>
Mr. Willikers here.
Funny you should mention sober and sound techie type guys.
Due to monetary circumstances I did not attend Xday.
I also kinda held out because I don't drink ( which is a recent concept
for me).
It does sound like I would have been pretty helpful round about Sat.
night. The one thing that makes not drinking easy is being busy.
I can't make any promises at this point, but come next year, if
available, I definitely wouldn't mind helping out, especially if some
sexy Connietite BattleAxe was calling the shots.

PS, the reason most of us bar room sound guys don't get it is because
most of them are pretty fucked up to begin with.
Wanna see a good fight, put 2 sound guys in 1 booth, and see how fast
that goes wrong.

Cheers, sorry I missed this X-day, now I have to live vicariously
through pictures. (More boobs please).

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: scalpod <scalpod@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:23 PM
Message-ID: <1184293421.769601.280220@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 2:37 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 1:43 pm, Pisces <KVanH...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is a great idea...
>
> > Hooray for Taphouse. I am still willing to do managment like stuffs,
> > but a list of helpers would make that uber easy!
>
> > Ankara, you are a genius!
>
> > Let us all join our efforts to give stang a SLACKFUL xday!
>
> Heh... you should hear what Princess Wei came up with in that
> respect... an X-Day in which I don't have to do ANYTHING but rant and
> be friendly!
>
> HA!
>
> It would make sense that a sexy Connietite might play Sacred BattleAxe
> over a bunch of AV Geek boys... in fact that might actually WORK! (It
> did when Nickie was our Employee Prime.) No AV geek wants to take
> orders or suggestions from another AV geek like me, in fact they'll
> subconsciously want to subvert everything, but they're TRAINED by
> INSTINCT to hop-to when a sexy-voiced non-techharpy yells at them in
> that gentle yet terrifying way that true Connietites have. It's a
> holdover from high school.
>
> Well anyway this is a start. I'm sorry I had to get all grumpy about
> it but you should hear how grumpy I was to the walls of the Big House
> on Saturday night! I'm surprised the structure is still standing.
>
> Between Rev. Vaylor of Bonobo Convergence and Rev. Angry Larry of The
> Amino Acids, we might be freed from dependence on Brushwood PA gear...
> a lot of the problem Saturday night was due to zero prep or
> communication about the basic P.A. stuff. We had everything working
> fine until what wasn't broken was "fixed."
>
> I am NOT a sound reinforcement expert! (Although I once wrote articles
> on just that for professional sound engineer magazines!) I was never
> in a band and my idea of devival audio is a mic plugged into a PA with
> a tape recorder running somewhere nearby, hopefully mixing a live mic
> with board sound, and another tape recorder supplying canned music.
> Yet you'd be amazed how few "professional" club sound guys can provide
> BOTH at the same time. The main reason we don't do devivals in
> Cleveland at Beachland Ballroom is because their sound guys are more
> apt to break my DVD players than to be able to run audio from them. If
> it isn't bass-vocals-guitar-drums, those guys are LOST!
>
> But let's not get into bar sound-man bashing. Mainly because I don't
> have a big enough CROWBAR to THRASH them all with.
>
> One big problem with "helping on X-Day" is that the MOST help is
> needed during the most feverishly crazed times, such as Saturday night
> when there are 5 bands, 3 videos, 300 ranters and a bonfire, because
> that's when everybody WANTS to be MOST DRUNK! -- or high or whatnot.
> This is perfectly understandable, but there have to be sacrifices. Or,
> rather, the sacrifice of SOME brain cells must be curtailed by those
> helping. The Merry Pranksters had the goal of being able to function
> NORMALLY, WHILE TRIPPING. We don't have to worry about that because we
> don't get such good acid. But lots of legal Conspiracy drugs like beer
> and whiskey fuck you up more than acid could ever hope to... so the
> SubGenius who wants to help must forsake that extra beer for the ONE
> HOUR (or 5) during which he or she has promised to help. We don't
> expect sobriety or high degrees of skill, but we do expect volunteers
> to be able to FUNCTION and THINK ON THEIR FEET -- to, so to speak,
> "read the instructions," as painful as that may be for so many.
>
> I LIKE doing all that tech stuff! It's much easier for me than
> schmoozing and being charming to actual live humans. I am naturally
> shy and nerdly... I FORCE myself to be sociable. When I'm running a
> camera, nobody can BUG me. But... ya can't have an X-Day without
> dealing with dozens or hundreds of The Others, and I am feeling much
> better about things just knowing that somebody understands the
> situation I got myself into, and is willing to help make it less
> excruciating!! I can now envision a time when it might not be
> excruciating at all. Or HARDLY excruciating. A little excruciation, I
> can handle.

I've got plenty of 'soft skills' and I'm not the least bit afraid to
talk to strangers and even boss them around if need be? I can also
help out with graphic design related duties as you might've guessed?
Heck, I can even be trusted to use my own initiative now and then.
Coming from Portland, Oregon as I do, I'm not sure what else I can
help with but when I see that master list I'll do my best to bite off
as much as I can without choking!

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Crissi-Topper <xt235@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 3:34 PM
Message-ID: <1184268898.081411.168590@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

Gooidea. I've no problem helping although (probably a big reason for
most) I think I'd just be in the way of those doing REAL work unless I
knew what I was supposed to be doing.
Sign me up to lift and carry stuff, that sort of thing, and I'll do
it, no prob'. Susie and/or I could sit in the schwag shack and sell
ourselves and other stuff.
Crissi

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Crissi-Topper <xt235@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Jul 14, 2007 12:05 AM
Message-ID: <1184385939.175166.19580@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 3:34 pm, Crissi-Topper <xt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 1:26 pm, Ankara <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
>
> > > On Jul 12, 6:19 am, scalpod <scal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> > > > > Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
>
> > > > Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
> > > > year, "Bob" willing?
>
> > > "Bob" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's up to US. There ain't
> > > gonna BE a next year unless we set up some committees and make
> > > EVERYONE do one hour of Slack Barter work helping the old man with the
> > > bad back!
>
> > > Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> > > definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> > > have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> > > We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> > > have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> > > by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> > > "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> > > If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> > > bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> > > still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> > > -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> > > Stang."
>
> > > The ones who DID help majorly -- Wei, Hal, Rev. Angry Larry, Rev.
> > > Pickles, Rev. Maynard Brainard, Steve Scynic, Alan the Discordian,
> > > Modemac -- and maybe even Rev. Chris Lee and a few others -- are the
> > > only reason I would even CONSIDER doing this again. Just going to
> > > Burning Man instead would be much cheaper for me in terms of back
> > > pain, brain pain and heartbreak.
>
> > > I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> > > five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> > > MEAN IT!!
>
> > > Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.
>
> > Wow, honestly I had no idea, but I prolly was never paying much
> > attention, to who needed help where.
>
> > Anyway, emergentile reporting for duty as requested.
>
> > -I am pretty good with a camera (when I remember all my equipment)
> > -am availible for heavy lifting
>
> > What we could do, if it's aggreeable would be to set up a sub-mailing
> > list now (taphouse mailserver could handle it) so we could get a list of
> > everyone who is willing, able, etc. so we can have an idea of both
> > exactly what we were working with yeti resource wise, and what exactly
> > needs to be done to maximize slack for not only you, the scribe, but
> > everyone else as well.
>
> > If you could, when you get a spare moment-(I know! unpossible!) write a
> > list of everything you would have wanted some help with, in as exacting
> > terms as possible, so we could know exactly how to proceed.
>
> > I know we are talking about subgenius's here, and this enterprise is
> > doomed, etc. but a lot of us still manage to get a lot of things done,
> > considering we are handicapped by an overwhelming urge to slack-off.
>
> > I will organize the mailing list, if and when, this meets with your
> > approval.
>
> > --
> > Ankara
> > Taphouse Cabalhttp://taphouse.org/
> > There is no cabal.
>
> > "If you die in Canada, you die in real life!" -Zeppo- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Gooidea. I've no problem helping although (probably a big reason for
> most) I think I'd just be in the way of those doing REAL work unless I
> knew what I was supposed to be doing.
> Sign me up to lift and carry stuff, that sort of thing, and I'll do
> it, no prob'. Susie and/or I could sit in the schwag shack and sell
> ourselves and other stuff.
> Crissi- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Or, even better - I could lubrigously lounge about right in the middle
of everything, thus focusing all the negative at me, and away from all
others. I kinda like that - I could have some ice cream and a fan and
wear something too bright and have 'fropstix brought to me...I'd do
that for The Church.
Crissi

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 5:10 PM
Message-ID: <1184274657.403448.102580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 1:26 pm, Ankara <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:

>
> > Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.
>
> Wow, honestly I had no idea, but I prolly was never paying much
> attention, to who needed help where.

It is the nature of the Path of Least Resistance.

>
> Anyway, emergentile reporting for duty as requested.
>
> -I am pretty good with a camera (when I remember all my equipment)
> -am availible for heavy lifting
>
> What we could do, if it's aggreeable would be to set up a sub-mailing
> list now (taphouse mailserver could handle it) so we could get a list of
> everyone who is willing, able, etc. so we can have an idea of both
> exactly what we were working with yeti resource wise, and what exactly
> needs to be done to maximize slack for not only you, the scribe, but
> everyone else as well.
>
> If you could, when you get a spare moment-(I know! unpossible!) write a
> list of everything you would have wanted some help with, in as exacting
> terms as possible, so we could know exactly how to proceed.

That's what Princess Wei was saying I need to do -- make a list of all
the stuff that I've been doing, and what else needs doing, and break
it down into departments (i.e., VIDEOTAPING, LIVE SOUND, DECORATION,
AUDIO RECORDING, SWAG SALES, POSTCARD MAILING, SCHEDULE PRINTING etc.
etc.)... then people can do what they do best.

What we keep getting is, "I can do all the heavy lifting you need! But
don't ask me to count money." Well, the heavy lifting that everybody
wants to do... that 5 boxes from my office to the car, then to the
stage, then back to the car, then back to my office. A total of maybe
20 minutes work. I can do it myself in less time than it takes to
explain where things go. But that's what EVERYBODY wants to do. What
nobody wants to do is a) tell anybody else what to do (this is my
BIGGEST problem personally since I am loathe to give orders --
everybody's sensitive about that) and b) deal with the public, which
is by far the most exhausting thing for any SubGenius, far harder than
carrying 75 pound boxes. We also need people who know the difference
between an RCA plug, a Phono plug and a Mini plug, and how "OUT" from
one device goes to "IN" on the next device -- EVEN WHEN DRUNK!. In
reality almost everybody knows this stuff -- it's how you hook your
speakers to your stereo or your iPod or whatnot -- but nobody wants to
admit it and but their butt on the line.

What I really need is another Stang, that is, somebody who knows
amateur video, amateur sound, amateur layout-and-printing AND amateur
delegating, or, one of each, who not only knows where to lug which box
but how to unpack them and wire and turn on the things IN the box. We
need a swag afficer who is familiar with the product line and the
prices. (And when to haggle.) We need a Registration person who knows
how to teach the volunteers how to do the registration (which entails
looking things up, handing things out, making change and writing
credit card info AND NOT LOSING IT)... and so on. If I can teach one
person each chore who then feels they can teach several volunteers
that chore, then we have it made.

So forget the heavy lifting and concentrate on the heavy thinking!
That's much harder for any SubGenius and it's become obvious that I
can't think about more than 11 things at once simultaneously all by
myself. DOING them all at once is even harder! And yet thinking of
them is almost harder than doing them.

>
> I know we are talking about subgenius's here, and this enterprise is
> doomed, etc. but a lot of us still manage to get a lot of things done,
> considering we are handicapped by an overwhelming urge to slack-off.

We joke about this stuff, but, truth be told, as much as we fuck off
and fuck up, the same number of Normals or backsliders will fuck off
and fuck up FAR WORSE. I worked with Normals for years and I know this
to be true. Ironic, but true. Normal GENIUSES are much much dumber
than SubGenius RETARDS when it comes to generating Slack or even plain
ordinary productivity on the assembly line.

>
> I will organize the mailing list, if and when, this meets with your
> approval.
>

Well, I will try to make a MASTER MONSTER LIST OF ALL THE SHITTY
BORING CHORES. Actually many of these chores are what many think of as
glamorous and easy -- like camera operating or sound mixing, neither
of which is either! It's fun for the FIRST FIVE MINUTES but then it
sinks in that you really are going to have to stand there doing that
for A WHOLE HOUR! That realization is when the weird stop getting
weirder and go back to being more Normal.

P.S. Since the last time I posted this afternoon, I've processed and
mailed 29 orders, mostly for Memberships, most of them coming in on
July 10! What does this portend? Did the Fark article cause this? Good
thing X-Day made some money because I'm about to have to reprint or re-
order almost all 26 pieces that go in the Membership Packs! (Note --
the hardest thing to procure lately has been the black plastic folders
that hold all the stuff -- the one thing that has NO SubGenius
customization is the one thing that's hardest to get.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Back It On Up" <evielust@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 5:19 PM
Message-ID: <1184275199.373457.254400@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

> So forget the heavy lifting and concentrate on the heavy thinking!
> That's much harder for any SubGenius and it's become obvious that I
> can't think about more than 11 things at once simultaneously all by
> myself. DOING them all at once is even harder! And yet thinking of
> them is almost harder than doing them.

Look here, Stang.

I am an administrative genius and an organizational expert. And, I
guess I owe you for all the fun. If you need help of that nature, let
me know. Just dont' ask me about any goddam plugs or wires. I can't
even get on a.b.s.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 6:48 PM
Message-ID: <1184280505.803366.279470@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 5:19 pm, "Rev. Back It On Up" <eviel...@aol.com> wrote:
> > So forget the heavy lifting and concentrate on the heavy thinking!
> > That's much harder for any SubGenius and it's become obvious that I
> > can't think about more than 11 things at once simultaneously all by
> > myself. DOING them all at once is even harder! And yet thinking of
> > them is almost harder than doing them.
>
> Look here, Stang.
>
> I am an administrative genius and an organizational expert. And, I
> guess I owe you for all the fun. If you need help of that nature, let
> me know. Just dont' ask me about any goddam plugs or wires. I can't
> even get on a.b.s.

NOBODY can get on a.b.s. without reading the instructions or being
really OLD like me. You could start however by paying the $30 entry
fee for 10X-Day. Unless Princess Wei's memory and check-list are
wrong, you guys didn't do that yet. Forgive me if I'm wrong. Maybe
there's a real name in the pre-regs that I don't know to connect to a
Church Name. I deliberately disremember real names in case I'm ever
interrogated by Them with Their truth serum.

I'm sure we need lots of help that doesn't involve plugs or wires, but
I'm so plug-&-wire-oriented it's hard just now to remember what that
might be. Something to do with organizing and administration... but
WHAT?? Like I said, thinking of them is almost harder than doing them.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Lord Cyclohexane <LordCyclohexane@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:50 PM
Message-ID: <1184291440.926807.234630@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 6:48 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:

Considering the above, I apologize for being too afraid to really step
up and help out. And considering your complaint about people being
too drunk/fropped up, I really should have helped out, since both
Caroline and I remained completely sober on Saturday night.
Caroline's biggest complaint about X-Day was that too many people
seemed to be there only to drink and smoke frop, so we'd refrained
that night.

Next year, I'll definitely help out and I'll get in touch with Ankara
on that. I can't say I can help too much on doing the video recording
or setting up the plugs (but as I'm tempted to take the local public
TV station's course on video recording, perhaps I'll jump into that
and thus be able to be helpful, and cords/cables can't be any more
difficult than rigging TV to VCR to PC/video game console for sending
appropriate video/audio back and forth, just would require a bit of
learning) but I can help out on doing Registrations, on organizing
price lists that can fit on a sheet of paper or two for having at the
Swag Shack, on trying to come up with inventory lists to keep track of
what was brought/sold/price-per-unit/etc and other things. I just
didn't realize any of that was needed...

And I definitely agree with Jimbo above. I'd really like to have
something to do, as it'd make me feel like I fit in more. Actually
doing something *for* the Church helps someone to feel more like
*part*of* the Church, so I'm all for it.

And somewhat off-topic, I have started working on the History Course
DVDs again; the second one is almost finished, but considering the
size of the third (and last) one, I may have to wait on finishing the
second one until the third is finished, just so I know how much
*wouldn't* fit on the third and so move that on to the undersized
second one.

Anyway, main point of above: just as you really wish there were
people who would help out, there are many of us who wish we knew some
way *to* help out. Please just tell us how and we'll jump in there.

> NOBODY can get on a.b.s. without reading the instructions or being
> really OLD like me.

Actually, following someone's suggestion of using NewsMan Pro, I was
able to figure it out. Took an hour to find out what the News servers
for RoadRunner were and I got everything up and running just fine.
Perhaps I should try to find out what those servers are for the main
ISPs and try to create instructions for people configuring different
NewsReaders to get access to a.b.s and a.b.m.s though I'd never
considered doing that prior to now...

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Back It On Up" <evielust@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:35 PM
Message-ID: <1184294103.650798.227100@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

> NOBODY can get on a.b.s. without reading the instructions or being
> really OLD like me. You could start however by paying the $30 entry
> fee for 10X-Day. Unless Princess Wei's memory and check-list are
> wrong, you guys didn't do that yet. Forgive me if I'm wrong. Maybe
> there's a real name in the pre-regs that I don't know to connect to a
> Church Name. I deliberately disremember real names in case I'm ever
> interrogated by Them with Their truth serum.
>
> I'm sure we need lots of help that doesn't involve plugs or wires, but
> I'm so plug-&-wire-oriented it's hard just now to remember what that
> might be. Something to do with organizing and administration... but
> WHAT?? Like I said, thinking of them is almost harder than doing them.

This is something I trust Sifu for every year while I nap. It came
out on the ride home that it hadn't been done, and since we left early
this year, we blew it. We didn't even get to feed you properly,
becuase you were so busy doing all your fun chores that you had no
time to eat our quality foods.

What's the best way to pay it now? Can I just go back and post-
register?

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 5:46 PM
Message-ID: <1184276814.226312.217960@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

These ideas makes me both excited and disappointed
Excited because it's what I've been thinking for the last several
years but considered my lowly position as a nobody with next-to-no
artistic multimedia skills as evidence that anything I proposed would
pass unnoticed. This is a good idea not just because it cuts Stang
some much-needed slack, but because it gets more SubGenii involved
with the holy mundane duties of the church and decentralizes the whole
thing, bringing us closer to the many-headed hydra bizniss model that
has been so successful for cults and terrorist cells in the past.
Disappointed because I'll have a minimal role in all this, at best,
for the next couple of *years*. I'd like to learn media editing, but I
can't promise to be proficient at it any time soon. My skills would be
far better utilized in setting up equipment (just need a little
refresher in which electronic boxes are which, I know I can figure out
input from output). Sales, registration, and keeping documents
organized is right up my alley. Camerawork I know nothing about, but
doesn't strike me as something prohibitively difficult to learn.

In short, I can't promise I'll be at x-day, but I can promise to help
when I do make it, or with the brainstorming and organizing leading
up to it.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 5:52 PM
Message-ID: <1184277170.871951.131880@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 5:46 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In short, I can't promise I'll be at x-day, but I can promise to help
> when I do make it, or with the brainstorming and organizing leading
> up to it.

I can also promise to try as hard as I can (short of sabotaging the
government or self-destructive acts to get out of my job [which I
actually DO enjoy to some extent, surprising as that may sound]) to
make it to X-Day

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "The Exarch SODDI" <kill_you_soon_as_look@you.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Reply-To: "The Exarch SODDI" <fuck@you.net>
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 6:11 PM
Message-ID: <lGxli.10345$ca.10281@bignews4.bellsouth.net>

"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> wrote"

"We also need people who know the difference between an RCA plug, a Phono
plug and a Mini plug, and how "OUT" from one device goes to "IN" on the next
device -- EVEN WHEN DRUNK!."

I plan to be there come hell or high water next year and I am monster snakey
audio cable man. And I don't drink. I can even bring a loaner parts box with
esoteric parts that would scare you white.

Mini plugs will always fail when you need them most. Crackle.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Ankara <uh-huh@somewhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:28 PM
Message-ID: <MPG.21008f0a76eeb7fe9896c7@news.east.cox.net>

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:10:57 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
> That's what Princess Wei was saying I need to do -- make a list of all
> the stuff that I've been doing, and what else needs doing, and break
> it down into departments (i.e., VIDEOTAPING, LIVE SOUND, DECORATION,
> AUDIO RECORDING, SWAG SALES, POSTCARD MAILING, SCHEDULE PRINTING etc.
> etc.)... then people can do what they do best.

That is actually probably the most necessary thing of all.
Having the same techie-geek sickness in me as you do (even if mine tends
to be in the computer hardware region of the brain) I can imagine that
nothing would irritate you more, than having your newly earned slack
broken by having your helper bees do everything *wrong*
I don't know if you are like this but I am, and it is always something I
have to keep in mind when I delegate tech jobs to others...it goes a
little something like this:

ME: "Dude, why did you set up your gear this way?"

Someone: "What do you mean, it's working fine?"

ME: "Thats not the fucking point douchebag, it's WRONG the way you are
doing it"

Someone: "Dude how can it matter it is working"

ME: "It's NOT WORKING the way it is SUPPOSED TO WORK, it is working the
wrong way...you forgot about X and Y and Z"

Someone: "Oh, I didnt know we needed those"

ME: "Well now you know"

Honestly, exchanges like this happen in my real life WITHOUT all the
cuss words, I try diligently not to get upset, or make someone who is
actually trying, feel like shit. But the cuss words *still take place in
my brain* and that is a slack-killer. I cannot know for certain but I
have the feeling if you geek out in *any* direction, eventually a VERY
clear picture of exactly how something is *supposed* to be done appears
in your head and wont be dissuaded for anything. And in the above
example, it certainly would have helped ME had I made clear MY
intentions from the git-go.

> What we keep getting is, "I can do all the heavy lifting you need! But
> don't ask me to count money." Well, the heavy lifting that everybody
> wants to do... that 5 boxes from my office to the car, then to the
> stage, then back to the car, then back to my office. A total of maybe
> 20 minutes work. I can do it myself in less time than it takes to
> explain where things go. But that's what EVERYBODY wants to do. What
> nobody wants to do is a) tell anybody else what to do (this is my
> BIGGEST problem personally since I am loathe to give orders --
> everybody's sensitive about that)

I like what you were saying about putting a woman in charge. I think
it's absolutely true, It is VERY hard for some jackass(myself included)
to gainsay a woman. This is not merely due to the fact that women
contain breasts (although this should never be entirely overlooked) but
that it is VERY hard to put any order from a woman into the context of;
"are you trying to say you are MORE MAN THAN ME FUCKER?? ARE YOU SAYING
YOU WANNA KICK MY ASS? LETS GO NOW, YOU FUCK!!"
The women that are in the know and take advantage of this humorous
little facet of male-ape behavior, not only make excellent executives,
but are absolutely PRICELESS to the survival of the species; not to
mention hilarious and tittilating (there's that word again) to watch.

> and b) deal with the public, which
> is by far the most exhausting thing for any SubGenius, far harder than
> carrying 75 pound boxes. We also need people who know the difference
> between an RCA plug, a Phono plug and a Mini plug, and how "OUT" from
> one device goes to "IN" on the next device -- EVEN WHEN DRUNK!. In
> reality almost everybody knows this stuff -- it's how you hook your
> speakers to your stereo or your iPod or whatnot -- but nobody wants to
> admit it and but their butt on the line.

Very well, I can certainly tell the difference between couplers
and while I dont know soundboards, I can be trained. And I volunteer to
man cameras of various kinds (provided I am told exactly what is
wanted/needed.)

By the way is it bad that stuff like "jack, plug, IN, OUT, iPod, butt"
and now I have added "couplers" to the same conversation, makes me laugh
like a 12 year old?

--
Ankara
Taphouse Cabal
http://taphouse.org/
There is no cabal.

"If you die in Canada, you die in real life!" -Zeppo

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: nenslo <nenslo@hahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 8:35 AM
Message-ID: <nenslo-D96BF0.08350813072007@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>

In article <1184274657.403448.102580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

> What we keep getting is, "I can do all the heavy lifting you need! But
> don't ask me to count money."

Just mail it to me in a big envelope and I will count it for you and
mail it back.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Modemac <modemac@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 12:05 PM
Message-ID: <1184342721.491607.196690@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 5:10 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
> P.S. Since the last time I posted this afternoon, I've processed and
> mailed 29 orders, mostly for Memberships, most of them coming in on
> July 10! What does this portend? Did the Fark article cause this? Good
> thing X-Day made some money because I'm about to have to reprint or re-
> order almost all 26 pieces that go in the Membership Packs! (Note --
> the hardest thing to procure lately has been the black plastic folders
> that hold all the stuff -- the one thing that has NO SubGenius
> customization is the one thing that's hardest to get.

I'm 99% certain the Fark link is what got you those orders. My Web
hosting site actually shut down my wiki on Tuesday because the traffic
was overwhelming the site. Magdalen got a few donations (out of about
30,000 new visitors), and that is what got those new regiistrations as
well.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: ima <imasubgenius@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 12:25 PM
Message-ID: <1184343934.002998.219620@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 12:05 pm, Modemac <mode...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 5:10 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > P.S. Since the last time I posted this afternoon, I've processed and
> > mailed 29 orders, mostly for Memberships, most of them coming in on
> > July 10! What does this portend? Did the Fark article cause this? Good
> > thing X-Day made some money because I'm about to have to reprint or re-
> > order almost all 26 pieces that go in the Membership Packs! (Note --
> > the hardest thing to procure lately has been the black plastic folders
> > that hold all the stuff -- the one thing that has NO SubGenius
> > customization is the one thing that's hardest to get.
>
> I'm 99% certain the Fark link is what got you those orders. My Web
> hosting site actually shut down my wiki on Tuesday because the traffic
> was overwhelming the site. Magdalen got a few donations (out of about
> 30,000 new visitors), and that is what got those new regiistrations as
> well.

this is the best xday movie EVAR http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/FIST2000-4/XXX-daynews/flash/xdaymovie.htm

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: scalpod <scalpod@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:16 PM
Message-ID: <1184293018.153472.172820@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 10:26 am, Ankara <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0700, Rev. Ivan Stang said unto the world:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 12, 6:19 am, scalpod <scal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> > > > Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
>
> > > Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
> > > year, "Bob" willing?
>
> > "Bob" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's up to US. There ain't
> > gonna BE a next year unless we set up some committees and make
> > EVERYONE do one hour of Slack Barter work helping the old man with the
> > bad back!
>
> > Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> > definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> > have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> > We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> > have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> > by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> > "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> > If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> > bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> > still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> > -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> > Stang."
>
> > The ones who DID help majorly -- Wei, Hal, Rev. Angry Larry, Rev.
> > Pickles, Rev. Maynard Brainard, Steve Scynic, Alan the Discordian,
> > Modemac -- and maybe even Rev. Chris Lee and a few others -- are the
> > only reason I would even CONSIDER doing this again. Just going to
> > Burning Man instead would be much cheaper for me in terms of back
> > pain, brain pain and heartbreak.
>
> > I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> > five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> > MEAN IT!!
>
> > Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.
>
> Wow, honestly I had no idea, but I prolly was never paying much
> attention, to who needed help where.
>
> Anyway, emergentile reporting for duty as requested.
>
> -I am pretty good with a camera (when I remember all my equipment)
> -am availible for heavy lifting
>
> What we could do, if it's aggreeable would be to set up a sub-mailing
> list now (taphouse mailserver could handle it) so we could get a list of
> everyone who is willing, able, etc. so we can have an idea of both
> exactly what we were working with yeti resource wise, and what exactly
> needs to be done to maximize slack for not only you, the scribe, but
> everyone else as well.
>
> If you could, when you get a spare moment-(I know! unpossible!) write a
> list of everything you would have wanted some help with, in as exacting
> terms as possible, so we could know exactly how to proceed.
>
> I know we are talking about subgenius's here, and this enterprise is
> doomed, etc. but a lot of us still manage to get a lot of things done,
> considering we are handicapped by an overwhelming urge to slack-off.
>
> I will organize the mailing list, if and when, this meets with your
> approval.
>
> --
> Ankara
> Taphouse Cabalhttp://taphouse.org/
> There is no cabal.
>
> "If you die in Canada, you die in real life!" -Zeppo

Sign me up for servitude!

I also wasn't aware of how hard the old man was working and I don't
want him dropping dead before his appointed time.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Modemac <modemac@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 7:17 AM
Message-ID: <1184325469.224117.104230@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 1:26 pm, Ankara <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> I will organize the mailing list, if and when, this meets with your
> approval.

A Yahoo group would work fine if Taphouse can't handle it. My only
comment right now is that at this time, one week after X-Day, it's
easy for us all to make big commitments on what we'll do a year from
now. We'll need to have an idea of who WILL be there next year to
help out, and that won't be known for several months at least.

Having said that, here are a few suggestions for sharing the work
load:

- The Secret X-Day Ruling Cabal must get together for a "meeting" at
the beginning, BEFORE any events take place, to say hi and agree what
will be happening.
- Communication among parties, by using a few radios or walkie-
talkies like Jesus had at X-Day from 1999-2001 or so.
- Making the schedule public: a big posterboard with names, times,
and duties on it (i.e. "Bob Slack, Swag Shack, Saturday 12:00 PM-2:00
PM").
- While "schedules" at X-Day are well known to be laughable, there
will have to be a few things that MUST be adhered to, such as "be at
the stage by Friday 1 PM for setup" or "be at the Roundhouse by
Saturday 8 PM for the pagans to yell at."
- Straitjacket for tying Stang up and forcing him to Slack off.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Lord Cyclohexane <LordCyclohexane@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 7:23 AM
Message-ID: <1184325792.911048.104600@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 7:17 am, Modemac <mode...@gmail.com> wrote:
>.
> - Straitjacket for tying Stang up and forcing him to Slack off.

I DEFINITELY agree with this post. Stang can't be assured to relax
otherwise, he'll just find some other work to do.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Lord Cyclohexane <LordCyclohexane@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 9:43 AM
Message-ID: <1184334225.910262.41370@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 7:23 am, Lord Cyclohexane <LordCyclohex...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>.
> I DEFINITELY agree with this post. Stang can't be assured to relax
> otherwise, he'll just find some other work to do.

Actually, let me take that back. Stang's emergentile personality
wouldn't ever allow him to enjoy just sitting back, so better to just
take all the crap work off of him and let him relax by doing the work
he actually enjoys.

Oh, and another potential Slack Barter idea: allow people to bid at
the Bulldada Auction using traded hours/half-hours on particular
items. I don't know what a good exchange rate of hours/dollars would
be, but perhaps some of the best stuff could only be obtained by
bidding hours of work against it, and the item can only be picked up
*after* said work is done with the threat that, if done shittily, the
offer is void. Of course, then someone would have to be willing to be
the Bad Guy (TM) if someone *does* do a shitty job with the bartered
hours... Perhaps have it the other way around, that Slack Barter
hours earned *before* the Auction could be traded in as potential
bids? I think it's a somewhat workable idea...

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Lord Cyclohexane <LordCyclohexane@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 9:56 AM
Message-ID: <1184334986.764688.90910@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 7:23 am, Lord Cyclohexane <LordCyclohex...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>.
> I DEFINITELY agree with this post. Stang can't be assured to relax
> otherwise, he'll just find some other work to do.

Actually, please let me take back that comment. Stang's emergentile
personality wouldn't allow him to actually enjoy sitting around;
better to just take the crap work off his back so he can enjoy the
work that he actually loves.

Oh, and I have another Slack Barter idea, regarding Bulldada Auction
and the Slack Barter board: if a person actually does a good job with
their Slack Barter time, allow them to use the hours/half-hours/etc
worked as credits to use as bids in the Bulldada Auction. Perhaps an
exchange rate of 1 hour worked equalling a $4 bid (most things sold
for $6, so an hour and a half of work), so if you've worked 2 hours,
let's say, you could put that $8 to a bid somewhere in the Auction for
something(s) that catch(es) your eye. And it'd only count for hours
already worked, not for ones in the future on the schedule, so you
couldn't promise to work so as to get something, then skip on the
working. There are enough Bulldada Auction times on the schedule that
it wouldn't inspire someone to sign up for one time and not another,
and considering how much BA stuff had to be taken home at the end of
this X-Day, perhaps the hours could also be traded directly for
leftovers after the last BA.

Obviously it's just the beginning of an idea, hours-to-dollars rate
can be changed, rules might be different, etc. And considering that
Stang often trades Slack Barter hours for actual Sacred Schwag or
reduced Registration costs, this would also save Stang some money and
help out the Church coffers in the end.

Anyway, just an idea.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Back It On Up" <evielust@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 8:50 AM
Message-ID: <1184331049.380939.262060@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

> My only
> comment right now is that at this time, one week after X-Day, it's
> easy for us all to make big commitments on what we'll do a year from
> now. We'll need to have an idea of who WILL be there next year to
> help out, and that won't be known for several months at least.

That's true enough, although I can honestly say I never knew any
volunteers were needed, because there's always this enthusiastic group
of people I don't know who are running about doing things, and I guess
I assume they don't want any part of my amateur help bullshit. So I
never offered.

Now that Stang's had an outburst, though, and threatened to take away
my toys, I can appreciate the situation a little better and I will
definitely be available to assist next year. And since I don't frop
or drink, I'm 99% less likely to lock the keys in the swag shack or
pass out under the stage or whatever.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Modemac <modemac@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 9:21 AM
Message-ID: <1184332904.171605.16580@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 8:50 am, "Rev. Back It On Up" <eviel...@aol.com> wrote:
> And since I don't frop
> or drink, I'm 99% less likely to lock the keys in the swag shack or
> pass out under the stage or whatever.

I thought fropping, drinking, and passing out were part of the
official duties of the X-Day officials.

Though since I know Stang's reading this message (eventually), might I
suggest to him that next March or April or so, when you send out your
regular email bulletin to everyone, include a CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR
THE SECRET X-DAY MANAGEMENT CABAL. That will shock us out of our
drunken stupor and remind us that we're going to be helping out with
running things at Brushwood, to make everyone's time at Brushwood
(especially yours) easier until the Xists arrive.

--
The High Weirdness Project
http://www.modemac.com

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: The Bishop <Convery.Kevin@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 11:02 AM
Message-ID: <1184338934.422813.46840@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 9:21 am, Modemac <mode...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 8:50 am, "Rev. Back It On Up" <eviel...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > And since I don't frop
> > or drink, I'm 99% less likely to lock the keys in the swag shack or
> > pass out under the stage or whatever.
>
> I thought fropping, drinking, and passing out were part of the
> official duties of the X-Day officials.
>
> Though since I know Stang's reading this message (eventually), might I
> suggest to him that next March or April or so, when you send out your
> regular email bulletin to everyone, include a CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR
> THE SECRET X-DAY MANAGEMENT CABAL. That will shock us out of our
> drunken stupor and remind us that we're going to be helping out with
> running things at Brushwood, to make everyone's time at Brushwood
> (especially yours) easier until the Xists arrive.
>
> --
> The High Weirdness Project
> http://www.modemac.com

Ahem...allow me to take this opportunity to echo the honorable
gentleman from the High Weirdness Project's sentiment regarding not
letting admirable urges to be helpful and not let Stang miss his own
party turn X-Day into the Carrie Nation Memorial Sobriety Festival. As
it happens, I can shoot viddy and frop simultaneously, with the SAME
LUNGS.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Back It On Up" <evielust@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 11:10 AM
Message-ID: <1184339408.093993.24140@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

> > > And since I don't frop
> > > or drink, I'm 99% less likely to lock the keys in the swag shack or
> > > pass out under the stage or whatever.

> Ahem...allow me to take this opportunity to echo the honorable
> gentleman from the High Weirdness Project's sentiment regarding not
> letting admirable urges to be helpful and not let Stang miss his own
> party turn X-Day into the Carrie Nation Memorial Sobriety Festival. As
> it happens, I can shoot viddy and frop simultaneously, with the SAME
> LUNGS

Please allow me to re-phrase.

I am 99% less likely to lock the keys in the swag shak or pass out
under the stage than I would be if I personally did frop or drink.
You can do whatever you want with your own lungs and I'm sure you're
magnificent at it.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Nuttar Buttar <nudder_budder@spamgmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 1:13 PM
Message-ID: <ipOli.18878$Rw1.245@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>

Rev. Back It On Up wrote:
>>>> And since I don't frop
>>>> or drink, I'm 99% less likely to lock the keys in the swag shack or
>>>> pass out under the stage or whatever.
>
>> Ahem...allow me to take this opportunity to echo the honorable
>> gentleman from the High Weirdness Project's sentiment regarding not
>> letting admirable urges to be helpful and not let Stang miss his own
>> party turn X-Day into the Carrie Nation Memorial Sobriety Festival. As
>> it happens, I can shoot viddy and frop simultaneously, with the SAME
>> LUNGS
>
> Please allow me to re-phrase.
>
> I am 99% less likely to lock the keys in the swag shak or pass out
> under the stage than I would be if I personally did frop or drink.
> You can do whatever you want with your own lungs and I'm sure you're
> magnificent at it.
>

I've drank and fropped enough to cover a couple lifetimes, while sober
there is still a 50/50 chance the keys will be locked somewhere I can't
find them, I probably won't fall down looking for them.
Residual froptardedness.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rich Clark, aka Left Rev Egg Plant, ULC, CotSG" <spammers_lie@rrclark.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 3:00 PM
Message-ID: <hnukm4-i2m.ln1@news.rrclark.net>

Modemac wrote:
> On Jul 12, 1:26 pm, Ankara <uh-...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> I will organize the mailing list, if and when, this meets with your
>> approval.
>
> A Yahoo group would work fine if Taphouse can't handle it. My only
> comment right now is that at this time, one week after X-Day, it's
> easy for us all to make big commitments on what we'll do a year from
> now. We'll need to have an idea of who WILL be there next year to
> help out, and that won't be known for several months at least.

Sorry, Brushwood is now the family Mecca here. We'll all be there,
forbidding my kid dies or something stupid like that.

> Having said that, here are a few suggestions for sharing the work
> load:
>
> - The Secret X-Day Ruling Cabal must get together for a "meeting" at
> the beginning, BEFORE any events take place, to say hi and agree what
> will be happening.

That can happen by email list, though face-to-face once everyone is at
Brushwood so everyone knows everyone and what they look like would be best.

> - Communication among parties, by using a few radios or walkie-
> talkies like Jesus had at X-Day from 1999-2001 or so.

Since Nextel doesn't work as an alternative for those who have it, yeah.
Who's gonna pay for those?

> - Making the schedule public: a big posterboard with names, times,
> and duties on it (i.e. "Bob Slack, Swag Shack, Saturday 12:00 PM-2:00
> PM").

See http://penguicon.org/events.html and penguicon.org in general for a
fair example of how this might be handled.

> - While "schedules" at X-Day are well known to be laughable

Or non-existent

> , there
> will have to be a few things that MUST be adhered to, such as "be at
> the stage by Friday 1 PM for setup" or "be at the Roundhouse by
> Saturday 8 PM for the pagans to yell at."

Agreed. (Work * âsqrt i) + (Workers * 0) == Fucked * âsqrt i.

> - Straitjacket for tying Stang up and forcing him to Slack off.

Nah, enough booze & frop to sedate for the poor bastard.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: ima <imasubgenius@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 12:26 AM
Message-ID: <1184300783.478241.80800@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 11:17 am, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
> On Jul 12, 6:19 am, scalpod <scal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 10, 6:26 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/DoktorJimbo/X-Day%20X/
>
> > > Photobucket has this weird policy about no titties, sorry.
>
> > Great shots Jimbo! Thanks for sharing and I hope to see you again next
> > year, "Bob" willing?
>
> "Bob" doesn't have anything to do with it. It's up to US. There ain't
> gonna BE a next year unless we set up some committees and make
> EVERYONE do one hour of Slack Barter work helping the old man with the
> bad back!
>
> Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> Stang."
>
> The ones who DID help majorly -- Wei, Hal, Rev. Angry Larry, Rev.
> Pickles, Rev. Maynard Brainard, Steve Scynic, Alan the Discordian,
> Modemac -- and maybe even Rev. Chris Lee and a few others -- are the
> only reason I would even CONSIDER doing this again. Just going to
> Burning Man instead would be much cheaper for me in terms of back
> pain, brain pain and heartbreak.
>
> I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> MEAN IT!!
>
> Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.

I think Legume should be in charge next year. He has certainly
bitched about how xday sucks and bragged about how he could do a
better job.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLimbo@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 12:53 AM
Message-ID: <1184302397.867297.72450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 12:26 am, ima <imasubgen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Legume should be in charge next year. He has certainly
> bitched about how xday sucks and bragged about how he could do a
> better job.

He does seems more of a do-it-yerself-er than a help-Stang-er, though
he has admitted to an indisposition to do anything but bitch and brag.
Oddly (though not surprisingly) enough, both approaches move towards
the same goal.

Maybe he could be put in charge of unplanned activities. I doubt he'd
volunteer, but wouldn't it make for some fun surprises.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: scalpod <scalpod@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 4:00 AM
Message-ID: <1184313624.345657.157680@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 9:53 pm, JimboDeLimbo <JimboDeLi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 12:26 am, ima <imasubgen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think Legume should be in charge next year. He has certainly
> > bitched about how xday sucks and bragged about how he could do a
> > better job.
>
> He does seems more of a do-it-yerself-er than a help-Stang-er, though
> he has admitted to an indisposition to do anything but bitch and brag.
> Oddly (though not surprisingly) enough, both approaches move towards
> the same goal.
>
> Maybe he could be put in charge of unplanned activities. I doubt he'd
> volunteer, but wouldn't it make for some fun surprises.

I nominate him for head of the complaints department...

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: nenslo <nenslo@hahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 8:33 AM
Message-ID: <nenslo-83886F.08330513072007@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>

In article <1184253438.341282.174970@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

> Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> Stang."

DEATH KNELL.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 1:51 PM
Message-ID: <1184349078.087769.297380@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 8:33 am, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <1184253438.341282.174...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> > definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> > have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> > We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> > have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> > by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> > "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> > If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> > bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> > still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> > -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> > Stang."
>
> DEATH KNELL.

The "death knell" happened in 1984! You're like 23 years behind Paul
Mavrides, and probably about as right as he was then.

You guys should get together and talk about how fucked up I am for a
few years.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: ima <imasubgenius@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 3:20 PM
Message-ID: <1184354422.866602.247190@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 1:51 pm, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 8:33 am, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <1184253438.341282.174...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > > Seriously! The five or six people who helped for a few hours each
> > > definitely isn't cutting it. Helping with the festival is going to
> > > have to become PART of the festival. (That's how Starwood does it.)
> > > We're going to have to do the most horrible thing in the world, and
> > > have COMMITTEES who share the chores that I've been doing mostly all
> > > by myself the last few years. I've tried to spare people the label of
> > > "Bobbie" by being the sole Bobbie myself, but that just ain't working.
> > > If I hadn't had a fair amount of money to deposit in the Foundation
> > > bank yesterday, this DEFINITELY would be the last X-Day Drill, and may
> > > still be if people don't start taking my requests for help seriously
> > > -- and stop being afraid to be called "a Bobbie" just for "helping
> > > Stang."
>
> > DEATH KNELL.
>
> The "death knell" happened in 1984! You're like 23 years behind Paul
> Mavrides, and probably about as right as he was then.
>
> You guys should get together and talk about how fucked up I am for a
> few years.

NO I WANT YOU TO TELL ME HOW FUCKED UP YOU ARE NOW IN THIS THREAD!

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: nenslo <nenslo@hahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 10:25 PM
Message-ID: <nenslo-0DC2CF.22254113072007@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>

In article <1184349078.087769.297380@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

> You guys should get together and talk about how fucked up I am for a
> few years.

Don't flatter yourself.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: scalpod <scalpod@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Sat, Jul 14, 2007 1:57 AM
Message-ID: <1184392621.445133.42470@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 7:25 pm, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <1184349078.087769.297...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
> "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > You guys should get together and talk about how fucked up I am for a
> > few years.
>
> Don't flatter yourself.

Yeah, that's HIS job.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: nenslo <nenslo@hahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 8:34 AM
Message-ID: <nenslo-60DE82.08341013072007@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>

In article <1184253438.341282.174970@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com> wrote:

> I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> MEAN IT!!

So who was holding a gun to your head you fucking chump.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgenius.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 1:45 PM
Message-ID: <1184348735.127077.188000@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 13, 8:34 am, nenslo <nen...@hahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <1184253438.341282.174...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>
> > I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> > five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> > MEAN IT!!
>
> So who was holding a gun to your head you fucking chump.

I guess you missed that very first meeting in 1977 or you wouldn't
have to ask that question.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: "Rich Clark, aka Left Rev Egg Plant, ULC, CotSG" <spammers_lie@rrclark.net>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 9:41 AM
Message-ID: <12ckm4-5ti.ln1@news.rrclark.net>

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
> I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> MEAN IT!!
>
> Suggestions? We're looking for people who like to delegate.

You saw how fast I moved when asked to turn my car radio off at 7 am on
07/05? Yeah, I move that fast when asked to do anything else. Just ask,
I'm happy to help.

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Subject: Re: Jimbo's X-Day Photos
From: Lord Cyclohexane <LordCyclohexane@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2007 10:10 AM
Message-ID: <1184335852.613588.104430@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

On Jul 12, 11:17 am, "Rev. Ivan Stang" <st...@subgenius.com> wrote:
>.
> I do not EVER want to go through another Saturday night like the last
> five at X-Day Drills! I said that the last 4 Drills, but this time I
> MEAN IT!!

I'm really sorry for asking this, or at least I imagine I'll be sorry
for asking this, but what were the absolute worst parts about this and
the previous Saturdays at X-Day? The more of what we know about
what's *really* gotten under your skin, the more we know about what
needs to be fixed and the better able we'll be to create a solution
that attacks the real problem rather than fixing minor annoyances and
missing the giant ones. My apologies in advance for reopening the
wound, but please rant as viciously as you need to so we can actually
help out. And as I know I was at least one of the straws breaking
your back, do feel free to get personal if you need/want.

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