STANG IN CRUMB BOOK.

From: atomicswamp@aol.comnospam (Atomicswamp)
Date: Mon, Mar 8, 2004

I'm a big crumb fan. ive loved robert crumb's comics since i was a little kid.
And I recently rummaged through some old girl scout cookie boxes and found my
old books. i saw the copy of the book THE LIFE AND TIMES of R. CRUMB, which i
actually enjoyed reading.

i remembered as soon as i saw the cover that stang was in the book. but anyway
i had a question that i had forgotten about up until today.

it might say in the book somewhere or other, but when did you know robert crumb
? and how long did you know him for?

thank you Sir Stang.

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>

Atomicswamp <atomicswamp@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> I'm a big crumb fan. ive loved robert crumb's comics since i was a little
> kid.
> And I recently rummaged through some old girl scout cookie boxes and found
> my
> old books. i saw the copy of the book THE LIFE AND TIMES of R. CRUMB, which i
> actually enjoyed reading.
>
> i remembered as soon as i saw the cover that stang was in the book.

I am? How? A drawing by him, or is it words by me about him? He drew a
quick sketch of my face one time in one of his sketchbooks and I've
always wanted a copy of it, but never saw one.

> but anyway
> i had a question that i had forgotten about up until today.
>
> it might say in the book somewhere or other, but when did you know robert
> crumb
> ? and how long did you know him for?

He ain't dead yet so technically I still know him, but actually it's
been probably ten years since I talked to him and Aline. That was at a
Fantasy Fair where he was a guest, in Dallas.

In 1980 when we printed the first copies of Pamphlet #1, the very first
place I sent them was Rip Off Press, Last Gasp, and Kitchen Sink. Where
they ended up in the trash, thrown there by the harried publishers. But
then in each office they were fished FROM the trash by ARTISTS, Paul
Mavrides and Jay Kinney specifically, and although they were "newbies"
in the undergound comix world, with just a few comics out (Anarchy and
Young Lust), they knew the hotshots. I got Crumb's address and mailed
him a pamphlet, expecting him to hate it, since he seemed to hate
everything else, but he LOVED it, and reprinted chunks of it in the
very first issue of his magazine, WEIRDO.

It was that appearance in Weirdo that roped in the whole second phase
of SubGenius Doktors and Popes, such as Pope David N. Meyer, Brother
Cleve, DK Jones and numerous other talented Yankees. Up till then it
was all Texas, Arkansas and Northern California. All ten of us.

So we owe a HUGE debt of gratitude to Crumb.

He and I wrote just a few notes back and forth. He came to the 1984
Night of Slack and saw "Bob" get shot. That was the first time I met
him. I'll never forget him eyeballing perfectly normal looking girls
and seeing them as big-legged Crumb girls. Lusting constantly. EXACTLY
like in his comics.

We also traded zines with Crumb's pal Robert Armstrong, creator of
Mickey Rat comics and also The Couch Potatoes, a mystic fellowship much
like the Church, which got much more popular much faster, but then I
guess sputtered out. Armstrong was in the band with Crumb, the Sweet
Suit Serenaders.

In the late 80s, Rev. Larry Lankford, who ran the Fantasy Fairs, huge
sf/comics cons in Dallas -- almost as big as the San Diego Comics Con,
or DragonCon, in their heyday -- Larry brought in Crumb, and I had a
real interesting dinner with him, during one of those. That's when he
drew the portrait in his sketchbook.

He was in Dallas again with Aline and Sophie in the 90s... after I grew
my hair long again. He was dismayed that I looked like a hippie. I told
him girls liked it and that I needed all the help I could get since I
wasn't a sex god like him, to which he smirked. Aline was very
friendly. (She knew I was a sincere fan of her nutty cartoons before
she was Mrs. Crumb.)

At that same convention (I think), believe it or not, I got into an
ARGUMENT with the great special effects artist, RAY HARRYHAUSEN. (I was
trying to get him to tape an Hour of Slack show I.D. but he could
INTUIT just from the Dubbshead on my shirt that we were some kind of
HIPPIE CULT.) But I may have cons confused.

In 1992 or so, Mavrides contacted Crumb in France hoping to get a
drawing out of him for REVELATION X. Crumb reportedly was surprised we
were still "doing that." He was too busy to do a drawing just for us.
We did pry drawings out of Gilbert Shelton, who is a SubGenius
minister, Vaughn Bode's son Mark Bode, my hero Robert Williams and
several of the newer wave of ug cartoonists.

Crumb had some sort of falling out with the other ZAP artists and for
the first time, another artist was allowed into ZAP to replace Crumb.
It was Paul Mavrides.

This is my testimony!

PRACRUMB!

--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
PRABOB

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From: bobdiddley@aol.com (Bobdiddley)

Stangenscribed:
>In 1980 when we printed the first copies of Pamphlet #1, the very first
>place I sent them was Rip Off Press, Last Gasp, and Kitchen Sink. Where
>they ended up in the trash, thrown there by the harried publishers.(...)

This is all duly text-saved for the History, eh wot? This is the kind of stuff
I eat with a big spoon!

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"The penalty that good men pay for not being interested in politics is to be
governed by men worse than themselves." -Plato, philosopher (427-347 BCE)

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From: drdark@37.com (DoktorDark)

Actually, Crumb's band was the CHEAP Suit Serenaders. Gotta coupla
their LP's, avid Crumbophile that I am......

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From: atomicswamp@aol.comnospam (Atomicswamp)

Who said about his band?
Because I knew they were called that. see,...I'm glad you brought that up..
because over christmas, I purchased the album "Singin' in the Bathtub". What a
fantastic album....I listen to it frequently. It's beautiful. My favorite
tune on that record is the last track..that beautiful traditional song "Hano
Hano Hawaii"...god that song is so beautiful..

As for the rest of the record, I really love the songs. That band is great. I
expect that I'll purchase the other records as well sometime..like the debut
one on CD. I have a record player but i cannot play 78's, which I know the
Cheap Suit Serenaders released.

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From: Baldin Pramer <baldin@mailtoworld.com>

Atomicswamp wrote:
> I'm a big crumb fan. ive loved robert crumb's comics since i was a little kid.
> And I recently rummaged through some old girl scout cookie boxes and found my
> old books. i saw the copy of the book THE LIFE AND TIMES of R. CRUMB, which i
> actually enjoyed reading.
>
> i remembered as soon as i saw the cover that stang was in the book. but anyway
> i had a question that i had forgotten about up until today.
>
> it might say in the book somewhere or other, but when did you know robert crumb
> ? and how long did you know him for?
>
> thank you Sir Stang.

What is less well known is that purple taught Crumb to draw and
contributed many story lines to Your Hytone Comix. In fact, purple was
the inspiration for Mr. Natural.

Speaking of Mr. Natural, does anyone remember which comic had the Mr.
Natural story where he got busted for feeding a hungry baby on his own
splooge?

--
Baldin Pramer

"But I'm hungry *now*!"

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From: atomicswamp@aol.comnospam (Atomicswamp)

i remembered as soon as i saw the cover that stang was in the book. but anyway
i had a question that i had forgotten about up until today.

it might say in the book somewhere or other, but when did you know robert crumb
? and how long did you know him for?

thank you Sir Stang.

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Subject: Re: STANG IN CRUMB BOOK.
From: atomicswamp@aol.comnospam (Atomicswamp)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Date: Tue, Mar 9, 2004 9:07 PM
Message-ID: <20040309210742.12186.00001148@mb-m02.aol.com>

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From: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)

atomicswamp@aol.comnospam (Atomicswamp) wrote:
> As for the rest of the record, I really love the songs. That band is great. I
> expect that I'll purchase the other records as well sometime..like the debut
> one on CD. I have a record player but i cannot play 78's, which I know the
> Cheap Suit Serenaders released.

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your jar of preserved monkey parts
unless you really MEAN it.

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milk, eggs, coffee."
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is that the cat knows damn well
that I'll run him over with the vacuum cleaner."
- Mrs. Porteous

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From: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)

>Actually, Crumb's band was the CHEAP Suit Serenaders. Gotta coupla
>their LP's, avid Crumbophile that I am......

Every once in while, residents of Milford, DE where the Crumbs lived for a
while, will have a Crumb art show.

apparnatly, Both Robert and Charles gave away lots of stuff they drew as kids
to school mates.

If they have another one soon, I'll post it here.

I bet there are enough origanal Crumbs floating around that small town to
finance a lot of people'sr etirements!

MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

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From: Baldin Pramer <baldin@mailtoworld.com>

What is less well known is that purple taught Crumb to draw and
contributed many story lines to Your Hytone Comix. In fact, purple was
the inspiration for Mr. Natural.

Speaking of Mr. Natural, does anyone remember which comic had the Mr.
Natural story where he got busted for feeding a hungry baby on his own
splooge?

--
Baldin Pramer

"But I'm hungry *now*!"

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From: drdark@37.com (DoktorDark)

Baldin Pramer <baldin@mailtoworld.com> wrote:
> Speaking of Mr. Natural, does anyone remember which comic had the Mr.
> Natural story where he got busted for feeding a hungry baby on his own
> splooge?
That was in Mr. Natural comix #1. BTW, purple was not the inspiration
for Mr. Natural, he was the basis for "The Big Turd" character in Pete
the Plumber's story in "Your Hytone Comix".

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From: mshotz@aol.commonkeypo (Rev. Richard Skull)

>That was in Mr. Natural comix #1. BTW, purple was not the inspiration
>for Mr. Natural, he was the basis for "The Big Turd" character in Pete
>the Plumber's story in "Your Hytone Comix".

I always thought he was Tommy Toliet?

MSHOTZ: The Post Post Modern Man

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