Self-destructing DVDs?

From: modemac@modemac.com (Modemac)
Newsgroups: alt.slack,rec.video.releases,alt.video.dvd
Date: Mon, Jun 2, 2003 1:54 PM
Message-ID: <b71f73eb.0306020954.a60fbc2@posting.google.com>

Source: Internet Movie Database

"Sony is planning to sell high-quality movies online that will employ
two separate barriers to prevent them from being copied and pirated,
Nikkei Business Daily reported today (Friday). First, the movie will
be downloaded onto a user's PC in multiple files that will require
special software to detect their correct order and play them back as a
continuous movie. Secondly, software embedded in the files will cause
them to self-destruct after a given time. The Sony-owned ISP So-net
Internet Service is expected to begin a trial of the service in Japan
soon, the newspaper said. Meanwhile, Disney said Thursday that
Technicolor Home Entertainment Services will manufacture the EZ-D
self-destructing DVDs, CDs and other software that will be the
underpinning of its Flexplay format. The discs may be used for a
limited time after they are removed from their packaging, after which
they cloud up and must be discarded."

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: "Goldfinger" <goldfgn@telus.net>

"Arthur Boff" <arthur.boff@merton.oxford.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:h7bndv0d0hdvdufj2b0vm0o5pbmeodva3o@4ax.com...

> I think big media needs to realise that if it releases any data at
> all, the data will be ripped, because sooner or later it'll depend on
> (crackable) software-based protection. Sucks to be Disney...

Pretty soon, people will be able to buy 200G, 300G harddrives for $100
easily. That's 20-30 movies per drive. Someone will make a player for it
too just like they did for divx. The Sony scheme sounds remarkably naive
and uneducated.

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From: nick@zeta.org.au (Nick Andrew)

They probably know it's weak, but it sounds impressive to the non-technical folk
and they may be relying on laws preventing dissemination of reconstruction tools.

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: "Rev. Magdalen" <magdalen@subgenius.com>

>
> "The discs may be used for a
> limited time after they are removed from their packaging, after which
> they cloud up and must be discarded."

I bet you can foil this dastardly scheme easily using some household
product like vinegar or borax. At least, that's what I'm going to start
telling people.

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: "Blackout" <blackout@404subgenius.com>

the copy guard is easily removed with a simple to make ammonia and clorox
solution

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: "Ned Wreck" <NedWreck@usenetserver.com>

NOOOOOO! It's BRAKE FLUID and Clorox!

Ned

Actually, I feel compelled to tell you not to do this. It will either smoke
very badly, start a fire or simply blow the fuck up depending on the amounts
used.
--
Eternal Salvation or Triple Your Money Back!!! HTTP://WWW.SubGenius.com

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From: "Meandwarf" <jellybean435@ATTBI.COM>

By all means stay away from the brake fluid, for christsake.
Use GASOLINE and clorox, it's much safer, and gives off less fumes.

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: Soot Bull Jeepô <ding@dong.com>

Don't forget to inhale!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/classic/A795611

SBJ

--
...........'cuse me whyl I kiss tha sky...

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: "Eduardo Suastegui" <eswrite-7-0-1@yahoo.com>

> >
> > "The discs may be used for a
> > limited time after they are removed from their packaging, after which
> > they cloud up and must be discarded."

Your mission, should you accept it, will be to hack and replicate the
copyrighted content before your time is up. This DVD will self-destruct in 5
seconds... <sigh> Everyone keeps forgetting: Mission Impossible was not.

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Eduardo Suastegui
"Test everything. Hold on to the good."
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From: "nu-monet v5.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack,rec.video.releases,alt.video.dvd

I hear that if you dip the DVD in gasoline, then
put it in your computer DVD drive still dripping
it might work. The gasoline fumes confuse the
copyright protection or something.

--
I don't know what you're talking about.
I've never met you before in my life.
That story sounds like utter bullshit.
I wasn't there and it wasn't me.
I am *not* in denial. Shut up.
--nu-monet

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: "Rev. Magdalen" <magdalen@subgenius.com>

God, Disney should jsut pay us right now for virtually beta-testing this
crazy scheme and blowing things up only in virtual reality. Pay us now,
Disney! Or you will pay later when REAL idiots do this for real!!
--
They are mean because they are rejects from society.

--Bill Palmer on SubGenii

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Subject: Re: Self-destructing DVDs?
From: nick@zeta.org.au (Nick Andrew)

I think somebody suggested spray-on lacquer.

Nick.
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From: "Artemia Salina" <y2k@sheayright.com>

Actually, there is science behind this. The surface of the CD is coated
with an oxidizer, which when exposed to the air begins to corrode the
surface of the CD. Unfortunately, simply spraying the CD with hairspray
or furniture wax to prevent further exposure to the air is futile, as
the surface only needs to be exposed for a short period for the chemical
reaction to initiate. Once that happens, barring removal or neutralization
of the oxidizer agent, it's only a matter of time before the CD is ruined.

The oxidizing agent CAN be neutralized, but not with borax or vinegar.
What's needed is an anti-oxidant such as that sold in drug stores in
the vitamin section. The herbal variety is much more potent than the
synthetic stuff. You can buy a bottle of herbal anti-oxidant pills
and crush them up into a fine powder with a mortar and pestle.
Mix this powdered anti-oxidant with enough iso-propyl alcohol (you'll
want the %90 USD kind, not the %73 USD stuff) to make a thin paste.
Spread this paste over the surface of the CD completely and allow to
dry at room temperature. Once the paste has completely dried, simply
rinse under warm water and wipe dry with a paper towel.

If you've opened your CD already and can't get access to the above
chemicals right away, the reaction of the oxidizer can be slowed
considerably by bathing the surface of the CD in monochromatic
light. To do this, take a shoe box and punch a small hole in the
lid. Go to a New Age paraphernalia store and get an agate crystal,
commonly called a "healing crystal." Put the CD in the shoe box and
insert the agate crystal into the hole in the lid. Place the lid on
the box, and then place the box in direct sun light so that the
rays of the sun pass through the crystal and into the darkened box.
That should slow the oxidizing process down long enough to prepare
the other materials.

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Embrace your inner bullying coward.
Drive an SUV.

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From: "Rev. Magdalen" <magdalen@subgenius.com>

Thank you so much! I knew there was a way to get around this! I happen
to already have anti-oxidant herbs and an agate crystal right here!! Do
you know if anyone is selling premade shoeboxes??

--
They are mean because they are rejects from society.

--Bill Palmer on SubGenii

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From: "Rabbi Shankar" <me@privacy.net>

Even easier- Photographer's changing bag and Helium.

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From: "Artemia Salina" <y2k@sheayright.com>

> Thank you so much! I knew there was a way to get around this! I happen
> to already have anti-oxidant herbs and an agate crystal right here!! Do
> you know if anyone is selling premade shoeboxes??

It's surprisingly difficult to buy premade shoe boxes, without the shoes,
that is. Something that might be more effective than a shoe box would be
to construct a pyramid out of cardboard and snip the pointy end off the
top. Place your ailing CD underneath it and put the crystal in the hole
in the top. Decorate with sequins, glitter and other baubles as your
taste dictates.

Nothing is written in stone yet, but I'm asking some suppliers to see
if I can put together a kit like I described, with the intent of selling
them on the internet. I'll go with the pyramid design, but instead of
just a hole in the top it'll have a set of spring loaded, sponge rubber
tipped fingers that will safely grasp the crystal, holding it firmly yet
gently at the optimum position for maximum light transmission.

I'll follow up if anything gels.

--
Embrace your inner bullying coward.
Drive an SUV.

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