Whats a human life worth?

From: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)

Date: Sun, Apr 11, 2004 10:04 PM

2.5 million. At least in the cost benefit analysis for the airline industry. I
love PBS.

Now the war industry..... probably tops out at a buck fifty and the cost of a
body bag.

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com>


50 American boys die this weekend and Bush blithely goes fishing.
Whot a man!

Cheerful Charlie

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: Cardinal Vertigo <jhobbs@myrealbox.com>

The numbers I've seen say 16 American fatalities and a bass weighing
"nearly four pounds."

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From: Joe Cosby <joecosby@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com>

>
>The numbers I've seen say 16 American fatalities and a bass weighing
>"nearly four pounds."

Certainly a fair trade on a cosmic scale.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.com/
Last night you were, unhinged.
You were like some desperate, howling demon.
You frightened me. .......... Do it again.

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From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

wbarwell wrote:
>
> 50 American boys die this weekend and Bush
> blithely goes fishing. Whot a man!
>

Just curious. Do you ever get tired of talking
politics?

I mean, just so tired you want to puke your guts
out until you have dry heaves, then shit your
pants to get all the foul smelling crap out of
your system just because you don't want to hear
about politics any more, or think about politics
any more, or see anything to do with politics
anywhere you go. How if someone starts blathering
about politicians or policy or politics to you,
you just wish you could run right up to them and
start FUCKING POUNDING THEM IN THE FACE WITH YOUR
FISTS AND YELLING "SHUT THE FUCK UP! SHUT THE FUCK
UP! SHUT THE FUCK UP! NOBODY FUCKING CARES! SHUT
THE FUCK UP!" until their face is a bloody pulp and
they STILL DON'T GET IT?

So you first pound some shell casings into their
kneecaps and they want to talk about how this or
that politician is doing something, and while you
are smashing their hands and feet with a claw hammer
they still go on and on about how important it is to
vote and how they really, really hate this guy because
he belongs to the other political party and they are
all fascists or communists. So you pour gasoline on
their legs and light it on fire and as their flesh
is burning and blistering and blackening they still
just can't help but try to tell you all about how
some administration policy is going to JACK OFF on
a blue dress or get us into a war with Slobovia who
are just minding their own fucking business and
building ten billion nuclear bombs which is none of
out fucking business. And then as you gouge out
their eyeballs with a rusty tin can lid they keep
mumbling something at you about how this or that
POLITICAL SHIT IS FUCKING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MAKE
YOU THIS ANGRY BUT THEY JUST *HAVE* TO FUCKING TELL
IT TO YOU ANYWAY AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER
AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Finally the light dawns and you break out their teeth
with a chunk of concrete. And shit in their mouth.
Then empty your .45 automatic into their head.

And you finally get some peace and quiet.

Well, just WONDERING if YOU ever felt that way.

I know I do. All the time.

--
"YOU BELONG TO US NOW!"
"GET DOWN WITH MY SICKNESS!!"

--Kino Beman, brand name

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com>

Well, its not as bad as somebody coming up an blathering at
me about JESUS, or Allah, or Book of Mormon, or what Lush Rimjob
just said on radio, or why the damned liberasls are traitors and Bush
should be re-elected and why its OK for Bush to lie us into a war and Bill
Clintons penis, and why $500 billion deficits don't mean shit and
why its perfectly acceptable for the Bush adminstration to
slowly destroy our freedoms slowly like dryrot slowly destroying
an old house.

Or people who faced with a world going to hell stick their big fat thumbs
up their snouts and are only interested in sports, drugs, the latest no
talent rap or grunge rock group, or stupid no talent movie star of the
moment, or fake religous leader of a joke religion. Or scoring crack,
or who has cheap beer on sale, or looking for a job because the manager told
him he has to work the late shift at the local burgershit.

When November comes and Bush is booted, things will be better.
Except for the massive numbers of shitheads around me.

And no, I don't want to hear about fucking Jesus.

--

Cheerful Charlie

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From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

wbarwell wrote:
>
> ...Well, its not as bad...

Well, yes it is.

As painful to you as the blather from "the other side",
*your* blather is JUST LIKE THEIRS. Every time you
write about politics, it is NO DIFFERENT than if you
reprinted some section of an Ann Coulter article or
Rush Limbaugh xscript.

Nothing is ever resolved on CNNs "Crossfire". The ONLY
THING THEY DO is have two guests TRY to stay ON MESSAGE
while ignoring everybody else, while the two hosts try
to get them off message. That's it. That's ALL there
is to it.

It is as predictable as any episode of "The Mighty
Morphin' Power Rangers."

"Pigs are Good!" "Pigs are Bad!" "But what about
Chickens!" "Pigs USED to be Good!"

You'll notice that at not time are question marks used.

And there IS no end to it. TUNE IN TOMORROW for EXACTLY
THE SAME THING YOU SAW TODAY!

So QUIT WATCHING TEEVEE. Read a non-political book.
Hang out with some gutter punks at a coffee shop--it's
fun, I know. Break free from the CONspiracy chains.

FREE YOUR LIFE FROM THIS CRAP. YOU CAN. LET "BOB"
BE YOUR GUIDE. Just tell yourself that "I can IGNORE
politics today, and NOTHING will change."

And things will be EXACTLY the same as if you cared,
except now you have your life back. The politicals
don't care, really, if they have one less follower,
one less stooge. Your soul is just one piece of
popcorn to them--they don't care if it ends up on the
theater floor.

It's that way with SO MANY THINGS: Xtian fundamentalism,
professional sports, television, excessive masturbation.

YOU CAN QUIT. It really doesn't matter.

More time to obsess about "Bob". WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

--
Herring communicate with each other
via a high-pitched, "raspberry"-like
sound emitted from their anuses.
These noises are not produced by
digestive gases.
-- from 'The New Scientist'

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: Cardinal Vertigo <jhobbs@myrealbox.com>

>
> YOU CAN QUIT. It really doesn't matter.
>
> More time to obsess about "Bob". WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

See, you'd be so much happier if you were just MORE LIKE NU-MONET.

Oh, wait.

n/m

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Actually, I was thinking Nenslo.

The Nenslitic Peace that Passeth All Understanding
is one path, but one might also try HueyDharma(tm)
or even TaoCosby.

--
"At the sound of the beep you will forget
the first part of this message <beep>."

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From: Cardinal Vertigo <jhobbs@myrealbox.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack

I find that Ultra-Orthodox Vertigolian Reactionary Fundamentalism works
well for me. Your results may vary.

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From: "Alliekatt" <alleykatzen@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.slack

>
> Now the war industry..... probably tops out at a buck fifty and the cost
of a
> body bag.

We are born one million in debt just being alive, it costs our parents half
a mil to raise us to 18 and then pay education and health insurance on top
of that. We are worth 2.5 million at the end of our careers, if we're lucky
enough to get out of debt and then get a house and car on top of just being
alive. Even if we're in debt for them.

What you calculate up in your assets as of value isn't your net worth...you
aren't counting the triple value of your home, car, education, and credit
that you pay in interest.

Say your home is worth $80 grand, but your equity so far is only about 15,
and your total with 6% interest means you pay $160,000 for your house in the
end. Your property taxes are 2% of that $80,000 every year. Your car is 5
years old so it's half paid off, maybe $8,000...which is its current blue
book value RIGHT NOW, but you have the other 8 grand PLUS the interest on
your car loan. Your school loans are 10 years old and you have them half
paid off, lucky you...you qualified for low interest. But your credit card
at 17% on $5,000, maxed out, more than makes up for it. BUT you have life
insurance for $250,000...collected after death, and you can only cash in
$7,000 on it before you're dead. Your health insurer is dreading the day
you get sick and stay sick.

Net assets plus furniture: about 95 grand. Taxes annually: Federal income
plus property, state, city taxes: around $6,000 times, say, 60. That's
360,000. Interest income to your creditors: conservatively, yearly interest
is about $8,000, combining car, house, and credit. Multiply THAT by 60.
That's 480,000.

Net worth to self and inheritors of property only: $95,000.00.
Net worth to tax collectors, creditors, loan brokers: $840,000
Net worth to insurance beneficiary: $250,000
Net worth to medical industry after you die a slow death that Dr Kevorkian
is forbidden to cut short due to medical profiteering: $700,000
Net profit that your employer makes on your labor being cheaper than your
production value: over 20 years, about $600,000.

For an average white collar or blue collar worker, this total isn't far off
the mark at all. I'm thinking in terms of 28-35K income a year. Total is
2.48 million. Not far off the mark. No wonder everyone wants a piece of
your ass, and expects you to give it. Next time, make them put out a little
tongue.

alliekatt

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: nenslo <nenslo@yahoox.com>

> Now the war industry..... probably tops out at a buck fifty and the cost of a
> body bag.

Value is in direct proportion to scarcity.

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>

>
> Finally the light dawns and you break out their teeth
> with a chunk of concrete. And shit in their mouth.
> Then empty your .45 automatic into their head.
>
> And you finally get some peace and quiet.
>
> Well, just WONDERING if YOU ever felt that way.
>
> I know I do. All the time.

I did too, up until NOW, when I realized that politics had inspired
this very rant! Now I can see that even political debate has a place in
"Bob's" Planlessness.

Hey, Nu-Monet -- "YOU SHOULD RUN FOR OFFICE, MAN!"

Ahahahahaha

--

PRABOB

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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>

>
> Net worth to self and inheritors of property only: $95,000.00.
> Net worth to tax collectors, creditors, loan brokers: $840,000
> Net worth to insurance beneficiary: $250,000
> Net worth to medical industry after you die a slow death that Dr Kevorkian
> is forbidden to cut short due to medical profiteering: $700,000
> Net profit that your employer makes on your labor being cheaper than your
> production value: over 20 years, about $600,000.
>
> For an average white collar or blue collar worker, this total isn't far off
> the mark at all. I'm thinking in terms of 28-35K income a year. Total is
> 2.48 million. Not far off the mark. No wonder everyone wants a piece of
> your ass, and expects you to give it. Next time, make them put out a little
> tongue.
>
> alliekatt
>

This is one of the all-time greatest alt.slack threads, so far!

Gosh, I hope I didn't just wreck it by saying that.

Pondering the worth of a human life in SPECIFICS, and the worth of
POLITICS in determining those values, why, it's enough to make a feller
want to just grab a picture of "Bob" and STARE AT IT FOR THE REST OF
HIS LIFE in order to avoid thinking about what fools we mortals be.

For I can't use this newsgroup to avoid doing the taxes any longer...
the yearly reminder that, for all my bellowing and frothing, I am
still THE MAN'S little BITCH, and will be until X-Day comes or Death
itself dies.

--
PRABOB

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From: Cardinal Vertigo <jhobbs@myrealbox.com>

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:

> This is one of the all-time greatest alt.slack threads, so far!
>
> Gosh, I hope I didn't just wreck it by saying that.
[snip]

I have absolutely nothing to say.

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From: "Alliekatt" <alleykatzen@hotmail.com>

> Pondering the worth of a human life in SPECIFICS, and the worth of
> POLITICS in determining those values, why, it's enough to make a feller
> want to just grab a picture of "Bob" and STARE AT IT FOR THE REST OF
> HIS LIFE in order to avoid thinking about what fools we mortals be.

And I'm hyperaware of it 24-7, which is why I'm living proof that the
moebius strip of ABSOLUTE EVIL and "Bob" can orbit in my head. The big
muscley wiseguys of the Con may be able to hold a statistics gun to my head
and tell me to keep up and pay up- or die. They say it's not personal.
But, it IS personal. "Bob" keeps me from going terror apeshit on them and
allows me to patiently wait for saucer cannons. The Con mafia should take
it personally that "Bob" keeps them alive, and send in their $30 in
gratitude.

alliekatt
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From: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)

A) $20, same as in downtown Middle America; a plugged nickel in
Mamajamastan, Iraq; a fresh meal near a pride of skinny lions on an
African veldt in July; 32 cents an hour, just like in a Chinese
sweatshop; or whatever your liver will glean from a hungry Indian
organ broker.

B) What it be worth WHERE?

>>>>C) And no, I don't want to hear about fucking Jesus.

Nuns say they are MARRIED to Jesus. WTF is up with that? He must be
as horny as hell; I ain't seen one I'd fuck with NENSLO'S dick in
about 20 years. There are no hot nuns outside a porn vid.

--

HellPope Huey
Next: Edible Hulk Underoos
for confused manic depressives

It's hard to work in groups when you're omnipotent.
- Q., "Star Trek, The Next Generation"

Its hard to depurify the permanently besodden.
- Popess Lilith

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Subject: Re: Whats a human life worth?
From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>

> There are no hot nuns outside a porn vid.

You've been in Arkansas for TOO LONG! (I know you won't argue with
that.) There ARE hot nuns. In fact, for some guys and gals, nunship
alone is enough to make ANY woman seem 'hot.'

--

PRABOB

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From: hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey)

If you say so, but outside of a few appalling "comedy" movies, the
ones I have personally seen looked like Gary G'broagfran's pet Bearded
dragons. Of course, they were bipeds, as far as I could tell, but they
still had the beards and scales and everything.
Are there hot ones in Ohio? If you mean REAL nuns, I think you've
been snorting nutmeg again; if you mean PARTY nuns at those SATAN
CLUBS, that's another matter.

--

HellPope Huey
Next: Edible Hulk Underoos
for confused manic depressives

It's hard to work in groups when you're omnipotent.
- Q., "Star Trek, The Next Generation"

Its hard to depurify the permanently besodden.
- Popess Lilith

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From: kdetal@aol.com (KD et al)

>There are no hot nuns outside a porn vid.

Just kick the habit.


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