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From: "Rev. Ivan Stang" <stang@subgeniusNOSPUM.com>
Date: Mon, Apr 19, 2004

SelfsLayer <SelfsLayer@DELEATMEreflectionsdivide.com> wrote:
> great... just went to see a psychiatrist and got diagnosed as
> borderline psychotic... couldn't see *that* one coming! hehehehehe
>
> oh well, i'm maybe gonna get some free droggz, cuz this *is* France
> after all! anybody have any experience with anti-psychotics? can i
> expect to be magically transformed into a TV-watching, opera-going
> magical zombie with false teeth?
>
> or am i just gonna go on a shamanic journey into the Normalworld?
>
> - Saigneur Selfs Layer, KKP, the dude at the door who acts really poor
> (and who wouldn't know you if you stuck a firecracker up his bum on Bastille
> Day)
> Le Pape of all Fried Freedom and Little Pink Panty Inspector
>
> http://www.reflectionsdivide.com

I would be bummed to think you felt so bad you had to take downers. I
don't know what they use nowadays as antipsychotics, but in the old
days it was simply powerful knock-out drugs like Thorazine, which
really do make you into a shuffling zombie. Maybe that's the kind of
relative Slack you need for a little while.

When I was in college I got hold of some Thorazine and discovered that
when I was all tranqed out on it, I thought that my dorm mate's albums
sounded GOOD. While I was on Thorazine, the first Black Sabbath album
and a popular album by a band called America ("Horse with No Name")
actually sounded GREAT to me. When I came out of i, I realized that
such drugs weren't for me. ((NOTE: Ironically, LSD will ALSO make the
dumbest tunes sound wonderful to the user, although for OPPOSITE
reasons!))

Don't worry about getting STUCK in Normalworld. That probably couldn't
happen to you even if you WANTED it to.

Instead of the drugs maybe you could get the same placating effects
from bestseller paperback novels, popular TV shows or music videos.

I don't mean to be flippant -- I've been "nuts" more than once myself.
(Ordinary nicotine withdrawal can do it!) This is when you most need to
remember the old "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" law. You don't
have to take it LITERALLY, but you know what I mean. You may be crazy,
but you're still ahead of a Pink.

--
4th Stangian Orthodox MegaFisTemple Lodge of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti,
Resurrected (Rev. Ivan Stang, prop.)
PRABOB

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From: "Alliekatt" <alleykatzen@hotmail.com>

"Selfs Layer" <SelfsLayer@DELEATMEreflectionsdivide.com> wrote:
> great... just went to see a psychiatrist and got diagnosed as
> borderline psychotic... couldn't see *that* one coming! hehehehehe

It's your own damn fault being American, going to see a French psychiatrist,
and being diagnosed borderline psychotic. It means that you are a Normal
American.

Now it's OK for you to put a certificate on your wall and diagnose HIM as an
alcoholic (ie drinks normally for his culture) with Borderline Personality
Disorder (ie being an unashamedly RUDE motherfucker) with Chronic Fatigue
Syndrome (ie being a LAZY and self-satisfied paunchy overeducated
motherfucker). It means that he is a Normal Frenchie.

Now put down the idea that something is wrong with you, go to the south of
that country to the Riviera, find coastal work, live in a bijou boarding
house and spend your money in the sunshine on alcohol, good food, hashish,
and loose women, and if you survive that therapy for a few years then you
can return a Borderline SubGenius...which means that you are much closer to
deserving to live.

alliekatt

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From: "nu-monet v6.0" <nothing@succeeds.com>

Selfs Layer wrote:
> great... just went to see a psychiatrist and
> got diagnosed as borderline psychotic... couldn't
> see *that* one coming! hehehehehe
>
> oh well, i'm maybe gonna get some free droggz,
> cuz this *is* France after all! anybody have any
> experience with anti-psychotics? can i expect to
> be magically transformed into a TV-watching,
> opera-going magical zombie with false teeth?

Pondering the wonderful magic that is pharmaceuticals
should come *last*. Brain drugs should not be seen
as an end in themselves, or even as a path to an end,
but as a last ditch to keep you from ending.

First of all, get a second opinion. Find out if another
doctor agrees with the first, then find out WHY. Since
this is psychiatry, don't futz with a Freudian, they
are quacks, stick with a biochemical psychiatrist, some
of whom actually know what they are doing.

Second thing, find out if there is a PHYSICAL cause to
your dilemma. This means is it BOTH "a PHYSICAL medical
condition that is affecting me" AND "does this disease
cause brain deterioration?" Some mental illnesses
actually damage your brain over time, so you MUST know
this.

Third, get diagnosed by an "Oriental School" acupuncturist.
This means, someone who was trained in traditiona acupuncture
diagnosis. For well over a millenia or two, these guys
did patient diagnosis WITHOUT being able to cut somebody
open and find out; so they developed a TON of tricks to
find out what ails you just from external observations.

They have a completely different take on medical conditions,
including mental illness, and PROBABLY have a treatment
that you might really like and WORKS for you. They might
even be able to propel you far enough from "borderline"
that you won't NEED drugs, which is a GOOD thing. Believe
me, seeing an acupunturist twice a year is a HELL of a lot
better than sucking down brain chemicals forever.

If nothing else, they will help restore your systems
balance, like an engine tune-up, which on its own can make
all the difference in the world. Getting rid of a few chronic
ouchy places that you had even forgotten you had can take a
LOT of pressure off.

--
Trust No One.
Always Look To The Skies.
The Truth Is Not There.
-- nu-monet

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From: "ghost" <ghost@ghost.net>

"Selfs Layer" <SelfsLayer@DELEATMEreflectionsdivide.com> wrote:
> great... just went to see a psychiatrist and got diagnosed as
> borderline psychotic... couldn't see *that* one coming! hehehehehe
>
> oh well, i'm maybe gonna get some free droggz, cuz this *is* France
> after all! anybody have any experience with anti-psychotics? can i
> expect to be magically transformed into a TV-watching, opera-going
> magical zombie with false teeth?
>
> or am i just gonna go on a shamanic journey into the Normalworld?

Yeah, get a second opinion. And get a full physical and make sure they check
your thyroid levels.

Psychosis is not a diagnosis in its self; it's a *state*, a symptom. You can
become psychotic from manic depression, schizophrenia, cocaine abuse,
alcohol withdrawal... a lot of things.

There's not really such a thing as "borderline psychosis". It's akin to
being "borderline pregnant". You either are or you aren't. The psychotic
state is pretty clearly defined medically (you can Google it), but, if you
can get it together enough to post messages to the Usenet, I'd be pretty
sure that you aren't currently psychotic.

The new generation of antipsychotics are a lot gentler than thorazoine and
haldol, with *fewer* risks of bad side effects (like tardive dyskinesia).
They have their own risks, like inducing temporary diabetes. They still
trank you out. They are *hideously* expensive (like upwards of $7 per pill).

The good news is that a lot of people do very well on sub-clinical doses of
the new APs... by many factors. Frinstance, a seriously ill schizophrenic
may need to take as much as 800mg of Seroquel daily. Many people benefit
from taking as little as 25mg to 50mg per day. The sub-clinical dosing is
very common, but still off-book, so if you think you need to consider this
option, push your doc to start you out as low as possible.

As for the tranquilizing factor... at lower doses, the new APs are equal to
about 2 shots and 2 beer chasers.

They will not make you UNWEIRD.

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From: "fenian" <fenian@start.ca>

Psychology is a load of shit. Kill that "doctor", see how crazy he
thinks you are then.

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